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Harambe [S] 32 points ago +32 / -0

Tencent has been buying out our studios and dumbing them down for their market for ages. Wonder why games all feel the same? TENCENT!

THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM GAMERS EVERYWHERE

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tdwin_throawayasanon 18 points ago +18 / -0

League, Fortnite, PUBG, all Blizzard games, Ubisoft post 2018, path of exlie, crusader kings/stellaris (Paradox studios), Kakao (black desert online), discord, and on and on

When you spend money on games, make sure you're not giving money to CHY-NA

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IForgotMyPw 10 points ago +10 / -0

Tencent owns 40% of Epic. 5% of Blizzard. 5% of Ubisoft. 5% of Paradox. Discord isn't publicly traded and is a US company, though they have taken investment money from Tencent.

Not to mention the EO only covers WeChat and what should be obvious; not every company Tencent has bought a stake in.

Just read the order yourself, it isn't very long.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-threat-posed-wechat/

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tdwin_throawayasanon 13 points ago +13 / -0

Anything that wipes 45 billion dollars of value from Tencent overnight is a victory for gamers everywhere. You forgot to mention they own 100% of Riot.

I understand their investment in other companies is a smaller fraction, what's more insidious is working with publishers to give access to the chinese market, and having the ability to cut off big money from publishers by subsequently denying them access. This is the influence they exert over Activsion/Blizzard despite only owning 5%.

Tencent needs to go away for gaming to be great again, and the way to do it is to NOT buy games from companies that are invovled with Tencent at all, especially the ones where they own a percent of the company.

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IForgotMyPw 6 points ago +6 / -0

All of what you said is true and you make great points, but this is a separate issue from what the EO addressed, which is all I was trying to point out.

The OP suggests that this EO will have an effect on gaming, it won't in any way.

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tdwin_throawayasanon 7 points ago +7 / -0

Directly, it won't have an impact on gaming, indirectly, it certainly will. Anything that's bad for Tencent is good for gaming.

It seems like we're in agreement here.

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llamadoH 3 points ago +3 / -0

For what its worth though, what epic has been doing for indie game development is pretty awesome. They've been handing out grants to companies who have software related to game making that show potential. There has been a lot of money handed out to free and open source softwares that help make it easier for small devs to be able to make a game. As someone who has been trying to learn the game making process for the last 3 years, I am greatful for what they're doing.

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Harambe [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're not wrong. Epic is a good US company that needs to get clean and let go of the CCP-bux

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sunwolf87 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't forget NetEase and the others too. Tencent is but one head of the CCP hydra. We SAY ditch China but I don't think you guys realize just how tied into gaming they are.

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HuggableBear 5 points ago +5 / -0

If this EO means that League dies a horrible death, he will be the greatest world leader since Hammurabi

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Truly_anonymous1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Crusader kings, too? Fuck. I loved exiling the Jews for 300 gold!!

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RedSocks157 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck do they really have tentacles in paradox? Stellaris and CK2 are some of my all time favorites...

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Truly_anonymous1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hehe see my comment below

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tdwin_throawayasanon 1 point ago +1 / -0

A streamer that's helped me figure out Endless Legend's systems also streams a lot of Stellaris, I was very close to buying it to try it (I loved Sins of a Solar Empire), and then saw it was Paradox.

NOPE.

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JediMasterPepe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck yeah!

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tdwin_throawayasanon 21 points ago +21 / -0

I hope blizzard goes bankrupt. Corruption and Chinese money have ruined their legendary status among gamers and poisoned their legacy of game design innovation.

FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT

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CisSiberianOrchestra 11 points ago +11 / -0

I remember the days when Blizzard was a company that could do no wrong by their fans. How the mighty have fallen.

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tdwin_throawayasanon 12 points ago +12 / -0

I've cumulatively spent hundreds of days worth of play time inside WoW, my friends in that community got me through bullshit in high school and college. I played hearthstone religiously for years.

When they censored that HS pro player for sticking up for Hong Kong, I cancelled my sub, uninstalled all blizzard games, and have never looked back.

FUCK CHY-NA

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HuggableBear 5 points ago +5 / -0

When I stopped playing WoW, I had over 500 days on my main, 300 on my primary alt, and various others all down the line totaling more than 1000 days in game. It was basically my only hobby for 10 years.

And I have no regrets.

FUCK CHYNA

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sunwolf87 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same. I still bave SC1 on cd.

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HuggableBear 6 points ago +6 / -0

Seriously, man, it's heartbreaking.

Blizzard used to be the symbol of quality, polish, and customer care.

Now they're just...ugh.

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sunwolf87 2 points ago +2 / -0

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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4cdarth 9 points ago +9 / -0

Agreed. But worried what will happen with Warframe if Tencent buys out parent company Leyou. Will Warframe be banned in US, or will it be demanded that it has a US holding company own/run US servers? If so, the micro transactions will be huge. (Looking at you Activision and EA)

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Harambe [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

They've got 45 days to figure it out. It's their fucking problem for taking CCP money to dumb down their product.

Do you want skeletons in your games?

Do you want blood?

Do you want meaningful stories?

Then you don't want CCP influence in our studios.

Don't worry, there are American-funded games that will take their place. Just need to crack the back of the beast.

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4cdarth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sadly digital extremes, developer of warframe has no say in what Leyou does. Right now Tencent and Leyou are in a exclusivity agreement where Leyou cannot talk with other bidders, only with Tencent for 3 months. At end of 3 months they can decide to continue/finalize things or back out.

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Harambe [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Let the bodies fall where they may.

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HuggableBear 2 points ago +2 / -0

Worry less, my friend. Capitalism is a wonderful thing.

If Warframe dies a sudden and tragic death, there will be other companies making games that are almost identical here in America in the very near future. Your "progress" may be gone, but be realistic. It's all just bytes. There is no real progress, you just enjoy your time in the game. And there are millions of other games even if it doesn't survive and nothing similar is created.

Try a new genre. Try a new publisher. Try something early access that you wouldn't otherwise and see if it pushes your buttons.

May I recommend Satisfactory or Shipbreaker?

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sunwolf87 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hell there are Paragon clones floating around that look really good so far...

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tdwin_throawayasanon 5 points ago +5 / -0

Phantasy star online 2 is an action MMO that's developed and published by Sega. Aditionally, there are thousands of indy titles on Steam from small developers that are worth every penny and are uncorrupted by Chinese money. It might be time to diversify your gaming a bit

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4cdarth 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, pretty much a game I play sometimes thats a smaller dev is Space Engineers. Might look into this Phantasy Star Online 2.

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sunwolf87 1 point ago +1 / -0

I. Fucking. LOVE. PSO2.

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IForgotMyPw 3 points ago +3 / -0

OP just reading news articles and not understanding. EO only affects WeChat, does not have anything to do with Tencent related to gaming or companies where Tencent owns shares.

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tdwin_throawayasanon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Anything that wipes 45 billion dollars of value from Tencent overnight is a victory for gamers everywhere.

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9moreyears 6 points ago +6 / -0

"You wanna play a game?"

Ya sure?

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Foxbat40 6 points ago +6 / -0

China destroyed Firefall. One of my favorite games. The also destroyed blizzard. Now we get mobile Diablo.

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tdwin_throawayasanon 5 points ago +5 / -0

What? You guys don't have phones?

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sunwolf87 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have a wallet. And with it I vote to NOT play that shit.

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Truly_anonymous1 1 point ago +1 / -0

World of DiabloCraft

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Thep1mp 3 points ago +3 / -0

And don’t forget....Tencent owns a huge chunk of Reddit......

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Truly_anonymous1 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have no chance of sex drive make your time

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hoobaguy 2 points ago +3 / -1

I haven't bought a game since the original xbox times. I think the last game I paid for was Scarface. I only play my Saturn and Dreamcast nowadays.

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JesusisKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gabe Newell having the best day since they brought back the McRib

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Dr_Pooper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Marxism ruins everything. Always.

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Licensetomeme 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am gonna do what's called a pro-America move..... - Trump.

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

he should probably already be there, imho

i'll just leave this here

worth the watch, for the conspicuous pepe reference from 2002 if nothing else

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JesusisKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

WHAT one of the company names you can have is PePe?!

Time travel confirmed