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sagebrushfire 2 points ago +4 / -2

Obama told the Ukrainians that if they gave up their Soviet era stockpile of nukes, he’d protect them from Russian aggression. They gave up their nukes, the Russians invaded and Obama did nothing. But hey, he’s super cool and sings old funk hits! I’d love to play basketball with him. He’s so cool! Thousands of Ukrainians died but Obama is hip and with it.

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cluckingducks 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is the big deal in regards to Ukraine that nobody mentions. Of course Politifact says [the United States promised to "ensure its territorial integrity." A diplomat with detailed knowledge of the American position noted that the United States went to pains to avoid making a strong guarantee to protect Ukraine’s borders. The formal memorandum of security assurances lacks a promise to ensure that Ukraine’s borders remain unchanged. The United States only promised to respect those borders itself, and to go to the United Nations should another power threaten Ukraine with a nuclear attack.] , so really we we never said that we would protect Ukraine. Just "ensure it's territorial integrity". Cause we all know that when Politifact says Ted Cruz is "FALSE", the case is closed.