How does it explain East Asia? The Han Chinese were always known to be remarkably smart people but not as creative as the Europeans or Indo-Europeans.
According to a Michael E Jones video,the Greeks were the first civilization to take philosophy seriously and that made them easily surpass the Persians even though the Persians has civilization firstly.
ASPM-2 is only a single genetic mutation. It's in East Asia too, but they have a significantly different genetic makeup compared with Western Europeans. They have notably larger skulls and that's just one variable on a long list. East Asians didn't have the benefit of Roman Marriage law, and had huge genocides at several times during their history. Lack of genetic diversity is actually a big problem among the Han. They were certainly coming along, but nowhere else moved as fast as the Europeans.
As for the Greeks, they were the bleeding edge of technology for an extended period of time, but they didn't impose the same restrictions on marriage that the Romans did and cousin marriage and closer (Uncles to nieces) was the norm in wealthy families. The wealthy class are the innovators so protecting them from consanguinity is extremely important, something that both Greeks and Egyptians failed to do.
Aside from the intellectual aspects - the western world had an additional advantage. Combined with the idea that there is one God, and one absolute way that the world was formed, science set out to discover that way.
China, India and the far east were hampered by the concept that there was no controlling deity and no absolutes on the laws of nature. The Middle East as you mention was hampered over time by cosanguinity. The geographical obstructions to the spread of the allele are an aspect I hadn't seen mentioned before, but like continental drift, they seem obvious in hindsight.
It’s so bad that almost everyone I know from my state’s best technical school (GA Tech) is a screaming liberal that parrots Democrat education talking points
I was an Engineer (currently in Law School) and the issue is that even though the overwhelming majority of people who go into the field are drawn to logic, they are also usually super introverted and passive and even if deep down they know the left is wrong, the pressure is on so hard in most Colleges that they fold and adopt NPC talking points. I was blitzed by leftism my entire time attending school and then afterwards while working on campus at a Small Engineering Firm that worked closely with a Graduate Research group. I was not a typical Engineer and pushed back, and tried to always speak up for my peers who I knew agreed with me but were too timid. But I get it, a lot of people just get run over by the Leftist Blitz of Academia for fear of Ostracization.
It's not even really that (it plays a big part in pushing the agenda, but it isn't all of it). I'm a teacher..or was, short story ahoy (please bear with me): about 5 - 10 years ago the "experts" got into this kick of mainstreaming students...it had already been somewhat done with learning disabled and the results were not good, but now it was to mainstream ESL students into the classrooms.
So, we had/have students who are not at all fluent in English in the classrooms with the results being what you'd expect (which isn't fair to the kids; they just sit there -- I don't know how much they understand if anything).
Rather than put them in seperate classrooms and get them up to speed with the regular curriculum, the "experts" pushed for 'non-western ways of thinking/diversity of thinking"to be accepted and taught in the classroom (to be honest, this was probably what they wanted all along). They could do this easily, because they could make the case that the ESL students needed acculturation in the regular classrooms, and not doing so was discriminatory and oppressive (thanks to the earlier LL mainstreaming that was now conveniently forgotten) and (this is a big one) that we had to keep to the pedagogical idea of student centered learning and student focused "authentic" academic work. You can guess what the results will be.
So...here we all are, the end (in a nutshell).
Thank you for teaching. I still remember most of my teachers fondly. A few of them taught me to think about questions in new and different ways, and it was like suddenly being able to see in color instead of just black and white.
I agree with you on the mainstreaming. The best public schools I attended had 3 groups for each grade. They weren't assigned names - you were just in a certain teacher's class. Each group moved at a different pace, but still covered the essentials. Kids who applied themselves could move from one group to another. Kids who didn't apply themselves could get moved from one group to another. The middle of the three class groups was the largest, but there was no stigma to being in any of the groups.
Moving to other schools afterward was boring because they were inevitably almost a year behind in what they were teaching, since they had to work to the lowest common denominator.
You can't do that anymore...but the school district here breaks the classes into teams that tend to follow GPAs w/ just a little crossover. But I really wish they'd just go back to having accelerated, normal, and remedial. There's really no shame in being in a remedial class -- if you don't know the material, you don't know it, so get some help and maybe you'll get it. It gives schools the flexibility to put kids where they need to be: I've seen students who could be in accelerated math but need extra help with language arts and vice versa; I've tutored students who weren't stupid, but they just hadn't "gotten" some important concepts and needed some extra help; and then there are those who just aren't going to be in advanced classes, but that doesn't mean you leave them hanging by teaching them nothing -- well, put them all where they need to be. Everybody comes out winning (or the majority do).
Student circa 1950s: Animal Farm is about the self-defeating and insidious nature of Communism, illustrating the inevitable rise of a centralized authoritarian regime through an allegorical tale.
Student in modern day California: The pigs had the right idea but they didn't implement true Communism. Also, the farmer was obviously a male Nazi white supremacist fascist.
I WISH that were actually the question. Then you could explain why the rectangle is NOT racist; the woke mob just kept pressuring the dictionary to CHANGE the definition of "racist" to fit their narrative.
Nah... open ended answers would NEVER work since they let people construct their own arguments. Instead it would be another multiple choice, or True/False.
Why is the rectangle racist: (Choose one)
a. It has normative angles.
b. It is a symbol of the white patriarchal colonialist foundation.
c. No curves.
d. all of the above
or probably more like,
Is the rectangle racist ? True / False....
Hi, I see that you selected <False> for this question. Lets think about WHY that is actually not the answer one should select! The CORRECT answer would factor in the historical structure the rectangle was drawn in, as well as the power-dynamics that exist when drawing polyamorygons.
Color the rectangle the color you prefer. *Please note, white is not an option. If used, you will be immediately suspended and must retake your BLM history class.
Let me break it down as a SPED teacher for a decade.
"common core" math is based a lot around the mental short cuts people really good with math use in higher level math. But they're ways of approaching math that you use AFTER you become very good at mastering the algorithmic basics.
You don't teach this shit first.
You make them master the basic algorithms first. And if they have a knack for math, they will develop some of these in their own.
This is all done under the idiotic assumption that "people good with math do math this way, so well yeah it this way." Same dumbass assumption of good writers write a lot. So we'll have kids write slot to be good writers.
My niece who is in 4th grade was showing me her math homework . A long division problem that did not have a remainder. I was able to look at it and determine that answer pretty easily. She showed me the amount of work she is required to do to solve that problem and I was floored. Not even kidding when I say a problem like 425/5 took her 2 pages to complete because that's how common core wants her to do it.
As an adult if you asked me to multiply 257 by 3 in my head I'd think ok 200x3 = 600, 50x2= 150, 7x3 = 21 add together = 771
Or 250x3=750 + 7x3=21=771
They want kids to do this instead of learning and mastering the standard algorithm 1st. At face value it's not a bad thing from an adult perspective until you delve into the asinine and arbitrary ways CC wants the kids to go about it. Like thinking in terms of how many 10s are in each of these etc etc
It's all an exercise in cart before the horse. Teach the algorithm first. Master that and then work on teaching the mental short cuts later.
Don't even get me started in teaching what used to be 8th grade topics in 5th and 4th. Kids brains aren't capable of true abstract thinking until at least 11yo and yet here we are trying to foist abstract concepts like algebra in them as young as 3rd and 4th.
You don't "need" long multiplication in practice but you need to learn how to make it work before you can employ other strategies. If you look at the decline in math scores in takes a steep dive after they stopped making mastery of it a focus.
And yes. Stats and probability is taught starting in 6th. And it's ridiculous.
As a high school student who just graduated near the top of their class, I can confirm this. Math is no longer about reasoning and critical thinking; it's about memorizing algorithms.
"Here are the problems which will be on the test, just with different numbers. Memorize algorithmically how to solve each one."
Students are given lists of formulas without an intuitive explanation for WHY they work. Naturally, the kids at the top of their class are best at "going through the system" and memorizing everything their teachers tell them. In reality, they're clueless without the system telling them precisely what they need to know.
I find these kids completely intolerable. They can't think for themselves and believe all the leftist garbage their history/english teachers tell them.
algorithmic knowledge is becoming less and less important as computers take over in that area.
The one thing humans have which computers don't is the ability to creatively and intuitively think and CREATE solutions. You can't write a program using brute memorization.
Learning algorithms is only useful nowadays as an example for how other algorithms and solutions can be created. Who needs to memorize the quadratic formula if you can just look it up online in 5 seconds? The only reason learning the quadratic formula could be useful is if you learn the intuition behind it and use that intuition to create your own algorithms and formulas.
Our education system isn't moving toward this direction. It's moving in the complete opposite direction.
California is one of the most prosperous states, yet it has some of the worst and shittiest education. I went to one of the public schools and universities, and I was the top of my class many times. I’d consider myself like a fair amount above average, not super genius despite what people like to tell me. Imagine how bad the lower end of the spectrum is here. Some high schoolers can’t do middle school math, and our reading comprehension is shit. How is it that I was reading 300-500+ page novels like The Hobbit in 4th grade over 1.5 decades ago but now people literally fail to understand the lessons of books like Animal Farm in high school and embrace Communism?
I used to teach math at a small arts college. The class I taught most often was remedial. I started with addition. That was the only one most of the kids knew. Because by the time I got to multiplication, I found out many didn't know their times tables.
Last time I applied to teach at a High School, the interviewers asked me how I'd do group projects. When I said I didn't use many group projects for Math, they seemed unhappy. When I asked what they were thinking of, they said "Oh, our last Math teacher gave problem solving exercises. Like, what equipment would you bring to go camping. No right or wrong answers." ("But that's not math," I didn't say.).
Is this precise problem written somewhere in the curriculum? Going through high school, I remember being given a problem exactly like this multiple times.
I also remember history teachers often beginning with a problem relating to some investigation of a school fight (students had to determine who's a good source and stuff).
Now that I think about it, reuse of problems across classes and grade levels was really common.
I used to get so annoyed in history - all grades- when I was in school because they never managed to finish the textbook. Maybe got up to WWI or so and then just ran out of time. I never understood why the teachers didn't just divide # of chapters by weeks of class and get it done. Luckily I did a lot of reading on my own but I don't think kids do that as much now. Their lack of knowledge of history is appalling.
I don't think any of our teachers use textbooks anymore. If you think your history education was bad, mine was awful.
Elementary school : Almost nothing. No, really. I don't think I was formerly taught about the civil war until high school.
Middle school "social studies" : global warming (yes, global warming), islam, native Americans, silk road, world religions, Timbuktu. I honestly cannot remember anything else.
In high school, only very basic US government is taught. 95% of kids probably never read the constitution or really know what it says. Most kids can probably only remember at most half the presidents. Unless they took AP US history, most don't know when major events occurred (ex. Civil War ~ early 1860s, WW1 ~ late 1910s, WW2 ~ early 1940s, etc.).
Well, I never had any question like that in a Math class. I'm not that old, but....
I remember back in College where they gave a scenario about responsibility by telling a story of some girl who has to trade her honor to get some guy to take her in her boat to visit her love interest. Her love interest rejects her after finding out what she did to cross the river, so she finds another guy to beat the crap out of him. That popped up more than once....
I teach special education as well. Just left a large school where I taught reading. I had kids in 9th and 10th grade reading at a 3rd grade level. And these weren’t kids with severe learning disabilities either. They just didn’t give a shit and played the system throughout the years.
English teacher here (middle school thru college 100/200 levels): why? because the majority of students come into each of the grade levels I've just described not having the vocabulary, spelling, or basic grammar skills to be able to read those.
At the schools I've taught at over the last 25+ years, there has been about a level decline in reading/writing ability for each 5 year period -- that means the average college student today, coming into my 100 level course...can barely read/write at the 9th grade level of students 30 years ago. And some are worse than that -- more like can't read at the 5th grade level of students in the 80s.
This of couse means that they can't read the texts for history or science, nor write intelligible papers in the same. And then we can talk about math skills, which I believe are going the same way (at least without calculators) -- which means the science and tech classes have to be dumbed down...and on it goes to we are all here...fml.
Oml editing people’s papers in school was the most disappointing thing. Writing ended up being like my ace subject in college whether it was persuasive or technical, though I never had to take super advanced writing beyond some specialized writing courses for accounting. People would write incoherently or have absolutely zero structure to their paragraphs. Thoughts would spill everywhere and grammar was absolutely atrocious. People need to understand as well that wordiness ≠ good. It’s actually better for things to be concise unless it’s meant to be descriptive.
Yes, welcome to my world -- aka. 'this is the reason teacher smokes and drinks when she gets off work' (well, the smoking part; I don't really drink). Yes, I realize it is the education system that has done this: they've done it to students, to parents, to society, and they've done it to me, and I've been a part of it...fml.
I'm working on that with my jr. high level kid at the moment -- content? very good, even some advanced critical thinking skills are there. Ability to coherently paragraph and syntax? Not so much.
Same goes for math: she gets more advanced geometry and some basic physics theories and formulas (she understand how to do them, why we do them, and where she can get the information to do them)...but she's getting caught up by not being as solid with basic freaking math skills. I've had her start helping her autistic sister with math and grammar, because the autistic sister, whom the school basically has considered incapable of advanced learning, has had those basic skills drilled into her, so she's better than her older, normal sister at them. Hey, whatever works is my game.
I read a paper that a student dictated to his phone and printed out. He didn't correct anything including the misspelling of his own name!!!!! There was no punctuation so the whole page was one long sentance.
College athletes are even worse than English language learners. I guess because grammar is racist? Which believing that grammar is racist in itself is racist because people of color cannot learn basic grammar....? 🤔 I digress.
I taught both -- a lot of the ESL at college is taught by private companies (that's a whole other shady business but...). The international students have to reach a certain standard of English before they can get into the university. Sometimes the companies hire shit (although this tends to start a problem when said students' gov'ts. who paid for this start getting failed students back -- so sometimes the shit gets weeded out); often they get English teachers who have ran afoul of PC university or public schools -- many of them are very good at what they do...teaching actual English. Secondly, the incoming students have to learn grammar, vocabulary, spelling, reading/listening comprehension, and speaking/writing skills...to they get a lot of fundamentals that American students just don't get anymore. I've taught in the elementary schools as well: we don't teach basic grammar really: we don't teach sentence writing, we don't teach paragraph writing...it's straight to essays (7 year olds who can't spell that well; can't really compose a good sentence...writing 'essays"...fml). Use the computer, use grammar and spell check and yes, dictate to your phone...that's what a lot of teachers tell these kids to do (probably because some of the younger teachers can't do it either; and that's in the SBoE's curriculum guidelines: look them up, they're a trip!).
The college athletes are there to play a sport -- for that matter, non-athletes are there to fill chairs and give the college money. The colleges don't give a rat's ass if they learn anything or even graduate. Athletes just get to stay in school...if they're any good.
I know there has also been a debate for many years about not graduating, or moving to the next grade, students that don't pass. That really seems to be something that needs to be re-instituted.
It's been that way for the past 30 years. The issue today seems to be allowing students to stay in the class if they become violent -- because suspensions are, you guessed it: racist (and if they can't suspend one group of kids, then they really can't suspend any...or at least it's really hard so why do it?).
And I'm not just talking about public school -- there have been a growing number of incidents in college classrooms.
What went wrong?
We let socialists march through the institution -- some of these pedagogies had their formation nearly 100 years ago; they were just allowed to take hold and thrive. That does, however, tell you just how strong the institution of public education was (and American society as well): it has taken 100 years to bring it down...but, they did. I'd say it really picked up ramming speed in the late 90s/early 00s: the gov't. really let the floodgates loose at that time; at least for me, there was a marked uptick in oversight (prior I was allowed some latitude in creating my own syllabi) as well as a marked downtick in student abilities (we went from what I would consider a pretty basic, easily comprehended English 101 text to a text more suited for high school during that time frame; now, it's even worse -- students today cannot read the basic text that we had in 1998 -- they can't read it; their vocabulary skills and ability to read more than simple sentences isn't enough!). So the 20 somethings you see today are the first products of full blast education on socialism.
I work with people who graduated from universities in CA who can't construct a simple sentence. And, worse, don't think it's a problem they're functionally illiterate.
Half the people in college pay other people to do their work, outright plagiarize someone else's essay, or collaborate and copy each other. As someone who graduated college with honors, I'll be the first to say California colleges don't promote learning. Or at least, many classes do not. The best thing it provides is structure, a mandatory schedule and grading system that forces you to be there. But they do not encourage independent thought. I actually ended up basically being an informal tutor cause I had to teach classmates stuff without doing their work for them. I could not stand how it was more about kissing the right ass instead of learning. The only reason I'm not with a huge company right now is cause it was unbearable schmoozing up to the damn corporate elites that went there to recruit. Maybe I'm not making as much money as I could have but working in a California corporation would make me kill myself. It'd be like plugging yourself straight into the leftist hive mind.
Sad part is everyone likes to blame the youth who are forced to learn this bullshit, when it's the people who were given a proper education in the past that fucked up the education system for the following generations
Yeah...that really was the beginning of the end, and then Obama went and stuck another knife in the already burnt offering by making it impossible to hold students back or discipline them and implementing Common Core (which is crazy town; nobody can teach it because it makes no sense, therefore nobody can learn it either). A lot of teachers just don't and admin. looks the other way, but it's on the standardized testing (NCLB!) so a segment of learning time (not taken up with students gone wild because can't discipline!) has to be devoted to learning it well enough to take those tests...fml.
Everyone reading this who is a parent or wants to become one:
Supplement your child's education. Don't just help them with homework, raise the bar on their homework. Don't know something? Research it. I'm not even a parent and I'm constantly looking up things to challenge my nephew's education.
I played a little baseball in high school and have researched baseball drills religiously to give my oldest nephew good baseball advice and training. Hours upon hours of drills, picking which ones make sense, and building a foundation of that in him, all so he improves.
Everyone constantly complains about how they don't have enough time to work, parent, have lives. The most important thing you are, is a parent. Your children trump everything. Invest in them. They don't need flashy gadgets and gizmos, they need to thrive in a world that's flipped upside down.
Rant over. Nothing more triggering than parents who just blame schools instead of trying to do right by their kids.
You are most certainly correct that the most important role is that of being a parent, if one has kids (or kids in their sphere of influence, such as yourself.
Yes! And go to the school board meetings -- you are not only a parent but a taxpayer as well. So, you should at least know what's being done within your schools, that you are paying for!
All taxpayers should attend, but parents have a double stake.
My husband and I can get a lot of education done just taking a trip to one of the state parks or even a day spent in the family garden: science, math, history, English (speaking/listening/thinking skills), PE, even the arts and foreign language. Hell, that's nearly the entirety of K-12 curriculum in one fun, family afternoon outing!
Beautifully said.
I constantly talk to my wife and bring up homeschooling at least until a certain age. I am not about to let my future kids be sabotaged by the butchers currently in the system.
As a teacher and you are 100 percent right. All of my best students they had homes that really valued education like you. While I was Teaching elementary grades all the successful students came back from weekends usually giving me a cool lesson about something they did with their relatives. Their interest in learning only kept on growing
As well as civics. Not just "We have checks and balances" but "Here is WHY we have checks and balances. Also here is why socialism and communism failed."
It's funny you mentioned Latin. I started studying Latin a few months ago and it has improved my English reading and writing. I agree it should be required as it is one of the foundations of western civilization.
I had a similar experience. When I was a young warthog, I could not understand English grammar at all. The scales fell from my eyes when I began studying Latin in High School.
Roughly 29% of English vocabulary derives from Latin, it helps when trying to understand the meaning of words I don't know--if they are Latin based. Also Latin forced me to learn a lot of new grammar mechanics and review old ones. You end up needing to really know how to break down a sentence into its components(supine, participles, gerunds, etc.). This naturally carries to English, as the principles are the same.
All this, and I still have to listen to anti-nationalist and anti-white rhetoric from the principal at my sister's high school GRADUATION CEREMONY. Get back to doing your job, you filthy slob. Imagine turning a graduation into a political rally.
I had a calculus prof that let us bring in small formula cheat sheets to tests. He casully mentioned offhand then when he was doing his physics undergrad 40 years prior they had 10x more formulas and they had to memorize all of them.
We have kids who have trouble doing basic, two digit multiplication and even addition because they have to stop and think about if 2x6=12. That' crazy; you shouldn't have to look that up or even think about it much.
Now, there are many ways of committing things to our memory; it doesn't have to only be rote learning (although that is one way and should be used when appropriate), but it is rather important at the basic level just because it makes the more advanced things come more easily.
I wasn't trying to say that kids should be using reference charts every time they wanted to do basic arithmetic, although I didn't qualify my statement I admit. I'm thinking more along the lines of the formulas that I used cheat sheets for in engineering. It didn't hurt my learning development to not learn all that stuff, the cheating I did was more than satisfactory, and the way I would do it in rea world application.
I understand completely.
Beginning at about the jr. high level through high school, you SHOULD be able to start transitioning over to learning what to use, when to use it, why/how you use it, and where to find that information.
But our educational system has taken the notion to teach this at the elementary level and do away with rote/memory learning of the basics. Well, you can't do the advanced work if the basics don't come easily (like driving), and that's what we are seeing now -- it's going to be a real problem imho later on. Good memory serves a function in cognitive ability/brain health especially as we get older...what happens to these kids when they get older and have not developed those neural connections in the brain? (on top of having to stop and think about basic things while doing advanced work)
I agree that if you don't memorize your times tables, you are going to have a rough time. It needs to be automatic when you see that sort of thing. I didn't know that they stopped doing that.
Yes...yes to a certain extent (a lot of it depends upon the school district and the individual teacher -- how much said teacher buys into what they learn at 'continuing education' seminars). That's because the education 'experts' who put on said teacher's seminars/workshops have been pushing the idea of "student centered learning" and have then argued that rote/memory learning doesn't allow "student centered learning" (ask me about that one; I dare anyone!), nor does it teach "critical thinking skills that students must have" (which they do...but let's first teach elementary kids that 2x6=12 and "compound sentences are 2 independent clauses joined by a comma and coordinating conjunction").
Yeah, that's where we are at...fml.
Yes, no -- depends upon the level and what is being taught. At the college level, being able to know and find is more important.
At the elementary level some things really do need to be taught by rote, committed to memory, and made so commonplace that you don't have to really think about them (kinda like driving a car).
Unfortunately, a lot of curriculum/pedagogy 'specialists' have taken the tack that memory learning is not good even at the kindergarten level...and thus we have kids who can't do basic math or spelling/grammar...who turn into adults who really can't do it well either.
Couldn't you extend that argument to the multiplication tables? Why remember that 12x12=144 if you can just look up a calculator (or a written table)? Or the alphabet, for that matter.
People use that excuse: when I have a job I will be able to google anything, what's the point of memorizing? The point is to set the bar as high as possible so your degree actually has prestiege.
Memory is a skill that can be developed like any other. Schools stopped teaching it decades ago and now we have voters who can't remember what happened before the previous election. Coincidence?
Some people can memorize better than others. Why shoulden't people learn the extent of what they are actually capable of while in school? Higher education should be difficult.
When I took calculus getting the area of an irregular object blew my mind. Its important for engineering/structural shapes though.
EVERYONE should take an advanced math, not that they would actually use the formulas; rather it trains the brain to create new neural connections for analytical/critical thinking.
I've seen arguments that calculus should be introduced earlier, like right after algebra. There's no reason why you need trig or geometry to understand the core ideas of rate of change, cumulative functions, and limits. I think a lot of people never get past the trig/pre-calc barrier and never really learn what higher level maths are like (no equation memorization, much more creativity) and have a completely wrong impression of math.
I think common core attempts to address that failing of math education. I know a lot of people don't like it and I'm not claiming that it's good, but I do think it's good at least that math educators recognize that people not really getting to see the beauty of math unless they make it to calculus is a good thing.
You could teach calculus principles without Trig. You just wont get very far. Ideally teachers early one would be hinting at what the fundamental concepts are of higher level math. Trig is only really required to solve specific problems since they have nice derivatives and identities.
No, it isn't. It's only required for taking derivatives of/integrating trig functions, which you don't care about before trig, and for using the identities to integrate some tricky functions.
It's required to make a good grade as it is taught today, yes. That's because it's traditionally taught after trig so they just go ahead and integrate it, but there's no reason why you couldn't teach it before and then, during trig, throw in how to differentiate/integrate trig functions as well as the useful trig identities that show up in integrating certain functions.
Trust me as someone half-way through an engineering PhD, as I said before, the core concepts of calculus do not require trigonometry to be taught. Rate of change, cumulation (integration), and limits can all be taught without trig. Hell, you can teach them all with just polynomials.
If you don't understand that, perhaps it's because you couldn't see the forest for the trees. If you came away from calculus thinking that it is closely related to trig in a special way moreso than other math topics (like algebra, logarithms, exponents, etc.) then the education system has failed you.
Great explanation. Maybe more of a hybrid approach, where they teach principals side by side, that way you get a refresher each year (which most students need anyways after summer... or covid).
I do think you would miss out if you didnt understand polar coordinates during integration though.
trig and geometry are super handy in the trades - building or making things or repairing them is made way easier with those math skillz built on arithmetic that is near instinctual.
calculus is a big shoulder shrug in terms of value in my life, but i viewed it as equivalent to reading the classics. our civilization is built on the stuff.
when i use real world stuff to show the power of math, people love the hell out of it. book learned math is like a cancer that ruins the whole field for most of us normies
To get the corners, calculate the area of a square with the radius of the circle, then subtract the area of a quarter-circle from your square which you're left with the area of the corner. Then that is subtracted from the main shape.
Just think of the two parts cut out as quarter circles. You have a point thats the center of the circle and a point thats at the edge. Using the distance formula for points you can calculate the length that line. Thats the radius of the circle, area of the circle is 2piradius, then you have to divide that by 4 to get the area of the missing part.
Same with the bottom left. You calculate those two quarter circle areas and subtract it from the length times width of the entire rectangle.
Ohhh looking closer at the image they actually give you the corresponding radius length of each circle "R10, and R5" so its actually a little easier. No distance formula needed.
Lol.. This was on reddit once. Got into a whole argument with a millennial, he said the 1940 was impossible to solve. Gave him the complete formula of how to solve it, and he went ballistic. Doubled down on his stupidity by zooming in on the picture to prove there are more pixels in some area then in the other. I don't give a crap about the pixels, all the data is in the picture.
Yikes. I'm a fellow millennial, and math is my kryptonite, but even I can see how it's solved. It would take me all day and half the night, but I would get it done eventually. I'm kind of relieved we had the dummy-level math when I was in school though!
Uh oh, now that I'm called out, I shouldn't have been so sassy. I believe you start with the area of the whole rectangle, then calculate the area of the two cut-out circles, using the radius given. Subtract 1/4 of the area of both those circles from the area of the rectangle. Then you move to the rounded edges, which I had to really think about, but I believe you start by calculating the area of both the circles using the radius again (it's a bit blurry, but I assume that's what those numbers are). Then I think you mentally pretend each of those circles are in a square, so calculate the area of the "square", subtract the area of the circle from the area of its "square", you should be left with just the edge corners. Subtract 1/4 of that amount from the rectangle, and that should give you the rounded corner. Was I close?
Imma go full stupid here. I am a teacher, so I see this shit happening right in front of me.
It's rather reductionist, but if you think about what the purpose of a public school education is, then they are actually achieving the desired results with this work.
Just as an example. The hot new buzzword in education right now is Social-Emotional Learning, or SEL. It's trying to raise kids to be more aware of their emotions and how to show empathy, establish relationships, so on so forth.
This wouldn't be problem if public education shifted it's philosophic center. But the colleges and school administration are invested in this idea of "Democracy in the classroom", which sound good because, hey, democracy, but it's actually practicing the ideas of political socialism in the classroom. There is no way schools will be able to teach SEL respectfully of parents choices. So hope this shit as well as covid completely destroy public schools because they are rotten institutions. And I work for one!
I enthusiastically second that. I homeschooled through middle school and high school. The level of understanding / mastery I got from Saxon Math was incredible. Went on to be a Math Major (among other things),
I caught up with a good childhood friend of mine last week. He's now a schoolteacher in Nevada...and he's pissed. He has to go through an endless carousel of sensitivity trainings, the learning standards are crap, he's not allowed to discipline students, and parents are blaming the teachers for their kids being out of control at home.
He must love being a teacher to still be teaching in all this.
One more democrat gets into office and it’s going to be like or dislike
"Like" or "Dislike" assumes literacy, you racist.
There will be a 'thumbs up' that you circle.
There is no 'dislike', because that might detract from a "safe space" or be used to perpetuate white supremacy and the patriarchy.
(Although those two words will be combined in 2023 to be 'White Supatriarchy', which will just be shortened to 'Supatriarchy', to stand for all bad things and Wrongthink.)
Eventually, that will prove too cumbersome, and 'Supatriarchy' will just be shortened to 'Supatriot'.
In its final form, the word to describe someone who is Wrongthinking will just be 'patriot'
In 2031, some Boomer (over 30) Patriots will go on and on about how being a 'patriot' used to be a good thing, but they will be shouted down by the blue-haired 'Word Safety Officers' for promoting the racist past.
It would probably be less effective this way, but another entry could be added:
1910: [no picture provided] Construct a shape according to the following directions and then calculate its area. Begin with a rectangle of height 2x and width 3x. For each of the four vertices, perform one of the following operations (a through d), using each operation exactly once: center a circle of radius (a) 0.5x or (b) 0.25x on the vertex and delete the circle and the intersecting portion of the original shape; position a circle of radius (c) 0.33x or (d) 0.9x such that the two lines forming the vertex are tangent to the circle, delete the smaller portion of the original shape which does not intersect the circle, and then remove the circle.
I still remember back in college there was outrage at a professor who said he is not awarding partial credit. For those who don’t know, partial credit for an answer is pretty common and what it basically means is the professor looks at your work and if you were on the right track but got the wrong answer, you would get 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 credit based on how far you got before you made a mistake.
This professor said when you get the answer, circle it as that’s the only thing he will look at. If you get it right, full credit. Wrong, zero credit. This was a college level engineering course and he said partial credit doesn’t exist in industry, you either do it right or you get fired so why should he give partial credit?
Assuming that professor was writing complex questions that were extremely difficult, and that a partial credit for a legit close solution is the difference between passing and failing the course and having to borrow/pay many thousands more for tuition to retake the course bc that professor is out of touch and doesn’t the dire consequences of his actions, I strongly disagree.
My liberal arts STEM education (graduated 2008) was incredible. Never took a scantron. In organic chemistry mechanisms and syntheses we had questions that involved a complex synthesis of a chemical but the lab is missing the obvious and best reagent and you had to devise an alternative route on the spot. He even threw a theoretical chemical on an exam at least once. There had to be partial credit or else most of the class would have failed. And there was more than one ‘rigjt’ answer.
There is definitely partial credit in real world science. I went to dental school and it it was the opposite of undergrad and it was mostly scantron exams. It was awful. Over and over again there were instances of me and other students proposing legit correct answers based on published science that the bullheaded professor wouldn’t accept as correct in their ridiculous exam bc it wasn’t their idea of the correct answer. More than once it resulted me in having to remediate an entire course or getting a full grade lower when I was in gpa danger zone.
I don’t know what type or level of engineering course that professor in your story was teaching, but based on what you described and my extensive experience in academia, fuck that professor. You can tell who studied and gained enough of an understanding of the subject to think critically about it and who didn’t. He sounds like a lazy know it all blow hard
I can attest schools are dumbing everything down. I have gone to school in 3 decades 00s, 10s, and now 20s.
I graduated past the half way mark of the 00s, and high school math and English and pretty much everything else was pretty though for me.
Then I ended up going to college a few years later in 09-10, and noticed it was easier than high school. I somehow became an A student without trying as hard.
Then I dropped out in 11, and went back again near the end of the decade. I literally got an Associates with a 4.0 without ever doing assigned reading or studying, or literally trying at all (with the exception of my language class, which have all been Japanese who aren’t cucked).
The homework now overwhelming amounts to responding to articles and providing your personal opinion. Doesn’t matter the class. You get full points for saying anything. I dont read anything though. I skim paragraphs in the middle and take out keywords and vomit them into sentences. Partly because the teachers give no incentive to care. Their feedback is useless. Their teaching is useless. I dont want to waste the energy anymore.
I recall one time my teacher gave me a “Great response very thorough!” Comment and I didn’t even skim the article that time. I forgot about the assignment 5 minutes before it was due, and literally just made shit up. I laughed a while after getting 100% on it.
A final paper I had to do for one class this last semester was supposed to be 10 pages. I only did 6, didn’t even ducking finish the argument. I already passed the class at that point so I said fuck it. The last 2 terms I’ve been extra IDGAF. Still got 80% with 6/10 pages! I didn’t even do good research! I googled some news articles lol that said what I needed it to say to make the paper easier to write. Total bullshit research was rewarded with 80%. I got an A in the class.
I’m so close to a bachelors but I am done. So done. I am going to rejoin the work force, and not use my own savings or loans anymore. I might still take 1 class a term online or something just so I can eventually get my bachelors. But I’ll only pay out of my monthly expenses. I really set my life back financially and socially returning to school and regret every ducking moment of it.
This is incorrect. Several family members in education confirm this. Now it’s:
“Please write your name at the top of the paper to receive 60% passing credit.*”
The (insert school district) does not condone bullying or making anyone feel ostracized or shamed. If, at any point, writing your name makes you feel singled out due to racism, ageism, anti-LGBTQ or islamaphobia, do not feel that you have to write your name. Special considerations have already been put into place via your IEP (regardless whether you have one or not) and no harm will come to your grade. You will not be penalized in any way. The (insert school district) encourages you to attend your local chapter of the ACLU, BLM and other other anti-fascist organizations. Only through enlightened togetherness can we combat the Nazism that is Trump and the RNC.
They are still teaching Common Core in Texas schools here from what I've heard.
The amount of ignorance in this alone to me Is near treason. Because it's purposefully made to make that which has already been simplified to be complex. Which means it's meant to cause confusion and parents inability to assist their children.
Any school that continues to teach such filth like women studies and BLM curriculum need to be put in jail. All teachers and faculties alike.
2025: Free college education is a right. Proceed directly to your graduation ceremony. Your family will whoop and holler as you twerk//floss/moonwalk across the stage.
While obviously meant to be a joke, in ways it's not too far off.
Started college in 2000 and life had its own plans. After spreading a few years at some jobs and experiencing corporate life a little I decided to finish my degrees after my jobs contract was up rather than sign up for another round.
There's a huge difference between how classes are taught now and only 20 years ago. Schools have embraced the "flipped classroom" model where in theory what's supposed to happen is the students learn the material on their own at home, come to class where the instructor QUICKLY skims over what you were supposed to learn, then 50-75% of the time is spent in groups going over problems. In theory.....but that's not how it works. In practice 95% of the students DON'T do the "learning on your own" part at home and the only time they're taught is in the brief overview in the classroom. They don't do the home shit for many reasons...in college we just have too much shit going on, in lower grades...well they're fucking kids and of course kids aren't going to read text books if it's not actually assigned and the teacher will just go over it anyway.
The result is that the bar has fallen lower to account for the lower average performance. Some classes actually have "group tests" where quizzes and sometimes even midterms and finals are group based. And of course you pass because students essentially crowdsource the correct answers.
And this was pre covid...the bar is even lower now because instructors can't teach at 100% virtually and students aren't 100% engaged virtually.
I recall 20 years ago instructors actually teaching the material and using texts to reiterate the important information if I needed it. Then doing homework. Now there is no reading, the instruction is a third to half as long, then a lot of fumbling around for answers and passing grades still getting handed out....it's kind of a fucking joke to be honest.
I have a theory why they made the change, money. With the way they have it setup now they can utilize lower quality instructors to teach larger classes and keep their paying students happy by passing them. The. claim that they're being cutting edge by forcing students to learn how to work in groups because "that's how it works in the real world."
I think one of the things for the flipped classroom was the cutesy saying "moving from sage on the stage to guide on the side." Just because it rhymes doesn't mean it's true, or the best way forward. It depends on the topic, but the absolute best teachers I had followed the so-called "sage on the stage" model, because they were really good teachers who knew their topic. One high school history teacher just lectured, and he held us enthralled the whole time, he was old and had a host of stories that illustrated various points, and was brutally truthful about politics (no playing with communism for him!). Telling him to flip the classroom and be a "guide on the side" would have meant far less learning for the students.
I have to laugh otherwise I’d be crying. SO SAD
But remember, math is racist white supremacist propaganda. All of you who dont fundamentally agree that 2+2=5 are bigoted harlots with no self esteem.
I like how they say this, despite the fact that algebra originated in India and was spread by the Arabians.
Would it be to deep to troll and say, that the people who built the pyramids were excellent at math?
Vibranium, dawg. Kangz and shit.
They were racist too - with their white pyramids!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujX9MEnYzU4&feature=youtu.be&t=138
https://archive.is/APqNO or
https://kottke.org/19/11/how-the-great-pyramid-at-giza-looked-in-2560-bce
They also invented the number 0.
How does it explain East Asia? The Han Chinese were always known to be remarkably smart people but not as creative as the Europeans or Indo-Europeans. According to a Michael E Jones video,the Greeks were the first civilization to take philosophy seriously and that made them easily surpass the Persians even though the Persians has civilization firstly.
ASPM-2 is only a single genetic mutation. It's in East Asia too, but they have a significantly different genetic makeup compared with Western Europeans. They have notably larger skulls and that's just one variable on a long list. East Asians didn't have the benefit of Roman Marriage law, and had huge genocides at several times during their history. Lack of genetic diversity is actually a big problem among the Han. They were certainly coming along, but nowhere else moved as fast as the Europeans.
As for the Greeks, they were the bleeding edge of technology for an extended period of time, but they didn't impose the same restrictions on marriage that the Romans did and cousin marriage and closer (Uncles to nieces) was the norm in wealthy families. The wealthy class are the innovators so protecting them from consanguinity is extremely important, something that both Greeks and Egyptians failed to do.
Aside from the intellectual aspects - the western world had an additional advantage. Combined with the idea that there is one God, and one absolute way that the world was formed, science set out to discover that way.
China, India and the far east were hampered by the concept that there was no controlling deity and no absolutes on the laws of nature. The Middle East as you mention was hampered over time by cosanguinity. The geographical obstructions to the spread of the allele are an aspect I hadn't seen mentioned before, but like continental drift, they seem obvious in hindsight.
Interesting theory. Where can I read more?
History is racist.
I know Greece had algebra but India, Persia, and Arabia also contributed to early mathematics.
It’s so bad that almost everyone I know from my state’s best technical school (GA Tech) is a screaming liberal that parrots Democrat education talking points
I was an Engineer (currently in Law School) and the issue is that even though the overwhelming majority of people who go into the field are drawn to logic, they are also usually super introverted and passive and even if deep down they know the left is wrong, the pressure is on so hard in most Colleges that they fold and adopt NPC talking points. I was blitzed by leftism my entire time attending school and then afterwards while working on campus at a Small Engineering Firm that worked closely with a Graduate Research group. I was not a typical Engineer and pushed back, and tried to always speak up for my peers who I knew agreed with me but were too timid. But I get it, a lot of people just get run over by the Leftist Blitz of Academia for fear of Ostracization.
The left has ruin academia
Maybe cause they just learn to repeat stuff as they're told. Nobody is really rediscovering math laws on their own, it's just copying.
Excuse me but Harlots is a slur! We prefer to be called low cost sex workers!
Isn’t it racist to assume math is racist. Isn’t it racist to assume some races can’t learn math? Liberals are so weird!!!
It's not even really that (it plays a big part in pushing the agenda, but it isn't all of it). I'm a teacher..or was, short story ahoy (please bear with me): about 5 - 10 years ago the "experts" got into this kick of mainstreaming students...it had already been somewhat done with learning disabled and the results were not good, but now it was to mainstream ESL students into the classrooms. So, we had/have students who are not at all fluent in English in the classrooms with the results being what you'd expect (which isn't fair to the kids; they just sit there -- I don't know how much they understand if anything). Rather than put them in seperate classrooms and get them up to speed with the regular curriculum, the "experts" pushed for 'non-western ways of thinking/diversity of thinking"to be accepted and taught in the classroom (to be honest, this was probably what they wanted all along). They could do this easily, because they could make the case that the ESL students needed acculturation in the regular classrooms, and not doing so was discriminatory and oppressive (thanks to the earlier LL mainstreaming that was now conveniently forgotten) and (this is a big one) that we had to keep to the pedagogical idea of student centered learning and student focused "authentic" academic work. You can guess what the results will be. So...here we all are, the end (in a nutshell).
Thank you for teaching. I still remember most of my teachers fondly. A few of them taught me to think about questions in new and different ways, and it was like suddenly being able to see in color instead of just black and white.
I agree with you on the mainstreaming. The best public schools I attended had 3 groups for each grade. They weren't assigned names - you were just in a certain teacher's class. Each group moved at a different pace, but still covered the essentials. Kids who applied themselves could move from one group to another. Kids who didn't apply themselves could get moved from one group to another. The middle of the three class groups was the largest, but there was no stigma to being in any of the groups.
Moving to other schools afterward was boring because they were inevitably almost a year behind in what they were teaching, since they had to work to the lowest common denominator.
You can't do that anymore...but the school district here breaks the classes into teams that tend to follow GPAs w/ just a little crossover. But I really wish they'd just go back to having accelerated, normal, and remedial. There's really no shame in being in a remedial class -- if you don't know the material, you don't know it, so get some help and maybe you'll get it. It gives schools the flexibility to put kids where they need to be: I've seen students who could be in accelerated math but need extra help with language arts and vice versa; I've tutored students who weren't stupid, but they just hadn't "gotten" some important concepts and needed some extra help; and then there are those who just aren't going to be in advanced classes, but that doesn't mean you leave them hanging by teaching them nothing -- well, put them all where they need to be. Everybody comes out winning (or the majority do).
To be anti-racist, you must become obsessively racist and paranoid.
Student circa 1950s: Animal Farm is about the self-defeating and insidious nature of Communism, illustrating the inevitable rise of a centralized authoritarian regime through an allegorical tale.
Student in modern day California: The pigs had the right idea but they didn't implement true Communism. Also, the farmer was obviously a male Nazi white supremacist fascist.
Also, the lazy horse needs to contribute more because he's so much stronger than everyone else.
No student has read that book in school for the last 20 years or more. You'd probably get suspended for bringing that book to school these days.
SAD BUT TRUE
It is a dark truth.
Because it doesn't have any color as its primary characteristic!
I WISH that were actually the question. Then you could explain why the rectangle is NOT racist; the woke mob just kept pressuring the dictionary to CHANGE the definition of "racist" to fit their narrative.
Nah... open ended answers would NEVER work since they let people construct their own arguments. Instead it would be another multiple choice, or True/False.
Why is the rectangle racist: (Choose one)
a. It has normative angles.
b. It is a symbol of the white patriarchal colonialist foundation.
c. No curves.
d. all of the above
or probably more like,
Is the rectangle racist ? True / False....
Hi, I see that you selected <False> for this question. Lets think about WHY that is actually not the answer one should select! The CORRECT answer would factor in the historical structure the rectangle was drawn in, as well as the power-dynamics that exist when drawing polyamorygons.
Lets try again:
Is the rectangle racist ? True /
False....More like:
The rectangle is racist. Which of these other racist shapes are also racist?
A) Circle
B) Triangle
C) Square
D) Any shape that isn't black enough
E) All of the above
Look fat, the background th-the image is almost white so that's enough for me.
if if if if if if if okie dokie
Chew Soap!
c'mon people!
C'mon man! I mean, well, I shouldn't say it or I'll get in trouble, but you know the thing.
I say the image background is all red, the text is in Italian and the actual year is 48.
And if you disagree you're anti-education, anti-science and racist.
What do you think happens if you don't color it black?
Just don't do this with circles lest it look like a black hole...which is, as we all know, a racist dogwhistle.
Color the rectangle the color you prefer. *Please note, white is not an option. If used, you will be immediately suspended and must retake your BLM history class.
Maybe the last one should say "the color you prefer, except racist white"
And kids are still failing math.
Yep. Because the methodology is purposefully non intuitive to further dumb down our kids.
Bingo.
Let me break it down as a SPED teacher for a decade.
"common core" math is based a lot around the mental short cuts people really good with math use in higher level math. But they're ways of approaching math that you use AFTER you become very good at mastering the algorithmic basics.
You don't teach this shit first.
You make them master the basic algorithms first. And if they have a knack for math, they will develop some of these in their own.
This is all done under the idiotic assumption that "people good with math do math this way, so well yeah it this way." Same dumbass assumption of good writers write a lot. So we'll have kids write slot to be good writers.
My niece who is in 4th grade was showing me her math homework . A long division problem that did not have a remainder. I was able to look at it and determine that answer pretty easily. She showed me the amount of work she is required to do to solve that problem and I was floored. Not even kidding when I say a problem like 425/5 took her 2 pages to complete because that's how common core wants her to do it.
And yet I determined the answer was 85 without removing my eyes from your comment.
Damn. Doesn't sound like there's any shortcut involved.
Yep it's retarded
How could anyone think this was a good idea. Oh right, they didn't.
You're correct.
Easiet example. Partial products or quotients.
As an adult if you asked me to multiply 257 by 3 in my head I'd think ok 200x3 = 600, 50x2= 150, 7x3 = 21 add together = 771
Or 250x3=750 + 7x3=21=771
They want kids to do this instead of learning and mastering the standard algorithm 1st. At face value it's not a bad thing from an adult perspective until you delve into the asinine and arbitrary ways CC wants the kids to go about it. Like thinking in terms of how many 10s are in each of these etc etc
It's all an exercise in cart before the horse. Teach the algorithm first. Master that and then work on teaching the mental short cuts later.
Don't even get me started in teaching what used to be 8th grade topics in 5th and 4th. Kids brains aren't capable of true abstract thinking until at least 11yo and yet here we are trying to foist abstract concepts like algebra in them as young as 3rd and 4th.
You don't "need" long multiplication in practice but you need to learn how to make it work before you can employ other strategies. If you look at the decline in math scores in takes a steep dive after they stopped making mastery of it a focus.
And yes. Stats and probability is taught starting in 6th. And it's ridiculous.
As a high school student who just graduated near the top of their class, I can confirm this. Math is no longer about reasoning and critical thinking; it's about memorizing algorithms.
"Here are the problems which will be on the test, just with different numbers. Memorize algorithmically how to solve each one."
Students are given lists of formulas without an intuitive explanation for WHY they work. Naturally, the kids at the top of their class are best at "going through the system" and memorizing everything their teachers tell them. In reality, they're clueless without the system telling them precisely what they need to know.
I find these kids completely intolerable. They can't think for themselves and believe all the leftist garbage their history/english teachers tell them.
algorithmic knowledge is becoming less and less important as computers take over in that area.
The one thing humans have which computers don't is the ability to creatively and intuitively think and CREATE solutions. You can't write a program using brute memorization.
Learning algorithms is only useful nowadays as an example for how other algorithms and solutions can be created. Who needs to memorize the quadratic formula if you can just look it up online in 5 seconds? The only reason learning the quadratic formula could be useful is if you learn the intuition behind it and use that intuition to create your own algorithms and formulas.
Our education system isn't moving toward this direction. It's moving in the complete opposite direction.
California is one of the most prosperous states, yet it has some of the worst and shittiest education. I went to one of the public schools and universities, and I was the top of my class many times. I’d consider myself like a fair amount above average, not super genius despite what people like to tell me. Imagine how bad the lower end of the spectrum is here. Some high schoolers can’t do middle school math, and our reading comprehension is shit. How is it that I was reading 300-500+ page novels like The Hobbit in 4th grade over 1.5 decades ago but now people literally fail to understand the lessons of books like Animal Farm in high school and embrace Communism?
I am a special education math teacher. I get kids coming to me with pre-k level math skills. Yeah its bad.
Edit: Middle school math.
I used to teach math at a small arts college. The class I taught most often was remedial. I started with addition. That was the only one most of the kids knew. Because by the time I got to multiplication, I found out many didn't know their times tables.
Last time I applied to teach at a High School, the interviewers asked me how I'd do group projects. When I said I didn't use many group projects for Math, they seemed unhappy. When I asked what they were thinking of, they said "Oh, our last Math teacher gave problem solving exercises. Like, what equipment would you bring to go camping. No right or wrong answers." ("But that's not math," I didn't say.).
Oh, did I mention this was all in California?
Is this precise problem written somewhere in the curriculum? Going through high school, I remember being given a problem exactly like this multiple times.
I also remember history teachers often beginning with a problem relating to some investigation of a school fight (students had to determine who's a good source and stuff).
Now that I think about it, reuse of problems across classes and grade levels was really common.
I used to get so annoyed in history - all grades- when I was in school because they never managed to finish the textbook. Maybe got up to WWI or so and then just ran out of time. I never understood why the teachers didn't just divide # of chapters by weeks of class and get it done. Luckily I did a lot of reading on my own but I don't think kids do that as much now. Their lack of knowledge of history is appalling.
I don't think any of our teachers use textbooks anymore. If you think your history education was bad, mine was awful.
Elementary school : Almost nothing. No, really. I don't think I was formerly taught about the civil war until high school.
Middle school "social studies" : global warming (yes, global warming), islam, native Americans, silk road, world religions, Timbuktu. I honestly cannot remember anything else.
In high school, only very basic US government is taught. 95% of kids probably never read the constitution or really know what it says. Most kids can probably only remember at most half the presidents. Unless they took AP US history, most don't know when major events occurred (ex. Civil War ~ early 1860s, WW1 ~ late 1910s, WW2 ~ early 1940s, etc.).
Well, I never had any question like that in a Math class. I'm not that old, but....
I remember back in College where they gave a scenario about responsibility by telling a story of some girl who has to trade her honor to get some guy to take her in her boat to visit her love interest. Her love interest rejects her after finding out what she did to cross the river, so she finds another guy to beat the crap out of him. That popped up more than once....
So... Did you get the job though?
Nope. Got into something else where I don't have to pretend to be an idiot.
I teach special education as well. Just left a large school where I taught reading. I had kids in 9th and 10th grade reading at a 3rd grade level. And these weren’t kids with severe learning disabilities either. They just didn’t give a shit and played the system throughout the years.
English teacher here (middle school thru college 100/200 levels): why? because the majority of students come into each of the grade levels I've just described not having the vocabulary, spelling, or basic grammar skills to be able to read those.
At the schools I've taught at over the last 25+ years, there has been about a level decline in reading/writing ability for each 5 year period -- that means the average college student today, coming into my 100 level course...can barely read/write at the 9th grade level of students 30 years ago. And some are worse than that -- more like can't read at the 5th grade level of students in the 80s.
This of couse means that they can't read the texts for history or science, nor write intelligible papers in the same. And then we can talk about math skills, which I believe are going the same way (at least without calculators) -- which means the science and tech classes have to be dumbed down...and on it goes to we are all here...fml.
Oml editing people’s papers in school was the most disappointing thing. Writing ended up being like my ace subject in college whether it was persuasive or technical, though I never had to take super advanced writing beyond some specialized writing courses for accounting. People would write incoherently or have absolutely zero structure to their paragraphs. Thoughts would spill everywhere and grammar was absolutely atrocious. People need to understand as well that wordiness ≠ good. It’s actually better for things to be concise unless it’s meant to be descriptive.
Yes, welcome to my world -- aka. 'this is the reason teacher smokes and drinks when she gets off work' (well, the smoking part; I don't really drink). Yes, I realize it is the education system that has done this: they've done it to students, to parents, to society, and they've done it to me, and I've been a part of it...fml.
I'm working on that with my jr. high level kid at the moment -- content? very good, even some advanced critical thinking skills are there. Ability to coherently paragraph and syntax? Not so much. Same goes for math: she gets more advanced geometry and some basic physics theories and formulas (she understand how to do them, why we do them, and where she can get the information to do them)...but she's getting caught up by not being as solid with basic freaking math skills. I've had her start helping her autistic sister with math and grammar, because the autistic sister, whom the school basically has considered incapable of advanced learning, has had those basic skills drilled into her, so she's better than her older, normal sister at them. Hey, whatever works is my game.
Brevity and clarity.
I read a paper that a student dictated to his phone and printed out. He didn't correct anything including the misspelling of his own name!!!!! There was no punctuation so the whole page was one long sentance.
College athletes are even worse than English language learners. I guess because grammar is racist? Which believing that grammar is racist in itself is racist because people of color cannot learn basic grammar....? 🤔 I digress.
I taught both -- a lot of the ESL at college is taught by private companies (that's a whole other shady business but...). The international students have to reach a certain standard of English before they can get into the university. Sometimes the companies hire shit (although this tends to start a problem when said students' gov'ts. who paid for this start getting failed students back -- so sometimes the shit gets weeded out); often they get English teachers who have ran afoul of PC university or public schools -- many of them are very good at what they do...teaching actual English. Secondly, the incoming students have to learn grammar, vocabulary, spelling, reading/listening comprehension, and speaking/writing skills...to they get a lot of fundamentals that American students just don't get anymore. I've taught in the elementary schools as well: we don't teach basic grammar really: we don't teach sentence writing, we don't teach paragraph writing...it's straight to essays (7 year olds who can't spell that well; can't really compose a good sentence...writing 'essays"...fml). Use the computer, use grammar and spell check and yes, dictate to your phone...that's what a lot of teachers tell these kids to do (probably because some of the younger teachers can't do it either; and that's in the SBoE's curriculum guidelines: look them up, they're a trip!).
The college athletes are there to play a sport -- for that matter, non-athletes are there to fill chairs and give the college money. The colleges don't give a rat's ass if they learn anything or even graduate. Athletes just get to stay in school...if they're any good.
I know there has also been a debate for many years about not graduating, or moving to the next grade, students that don't pass. That really seems to be something that needs to be re-instituted.
It's been that way for the past 30 years. The issue today seems to be allowing students to stay in the class if they become violent -- because suspensions are, you guessed it: racist (and if they can't suspend one group of kids, then they really can't suspend any...or at least it's really hard so why do it?). And I'm not just talking about public school -- there have been a growing number of incidents in college classrooms.
I noticed the same trend too. What had went wrong in your opinion?
It's kinda sad isn't it?
What went wrong? We let socialists march through the institution -- some of these pedagogies had their formation nearly 100 years ago; they were just allowed to take hold and thrive. That does, however, tell you just how strong the institution of public education was (and American society as well): it has taken 100 years to bring it down...but, they did. I'd say it really picked up ramming speed in the late 90s/early 00s: the gov't. really let the floodgates loose at that time; at least for me, there was a marked uptick in oversight (prior I was allowed some latitude in creating my own syllabi) as well as a marked downtick in student abilities (we went from what I would consider a pretty basic, easily comprehended English 101 text to a text more suited for high school during that time frame; now, it's even worse -- students today cannot read the basic text that we had in 1998 -- they can't read it; their vocabulary skills and ability to read more than simple sentences isn't enough!). So the 20 somethings you see today are the first products of full blast education on socialism.
I work with people who graduated from universities in CA who can't construct a simple sentence. And, worse, don't think it's a problem they're functionally illiterate.
Half the people in college pay other people to do their work, outright plagiarize someone else's essay, or collaborate and copy each other. As someone who graduated college with honors, I'll be the first to say California colleges don't promote learning. Or at least, many classes do not. The best thing it provides is structure, a mandatory schedule and grading system that forces you to be there. But they do not encourage independent thought. I actually ended up basically being an informal tutor cause I had to teach classmates stuff without doing their work for them. I could not stand how it was more about kissing the right ass instead of learning. The only reason I'm not with a huge company right now is cause it was unbearable schmoozing up to the damn corporate elites that went there to recruit. Maybe I'm not making as much money as I could have but working in a California corporation would make me kill myself. It'd be like plugging yourself straight into the leftist hive mind.
yeah... but at least they know 2+2=5 !
Sad part is everyone likes to blame the youth who are forced to learn this bullshit, when it's the people who were given a proper education in the past that fucked up the education system for the following generations
It wasn't even them. It was Communist infiltrators undermining our educational system. A KGB agent named Yuri Bezmenov warned about this occuring.
This sad state of affairs is Bush's "No Child Left Behind" in action... completely nuked what was left of a some what functioning system.
Yeah...that really was the beginning of the end, and then Obama went and stuck another knife in the already burnt offering by making it impossible to hold students back or discipline them and implementing Common Core (which is crazy town; nobody can teach it because it makes no sense, therefore nobody can learn it either). A lot of teachers just don't and admin. looks the other way, but it's on the standardized testing (NCLB!) so a segment of learning time (not taken up with students gone wild because can't discipline!) has to be devoted to learning it well enough to take those tests...fml.
Everyone reading this who is a parent or wants to become one:
Supplement your child's education. Don't just help them with homework, raise the bar on their homework. Don't know something? Research it. I'm not even a parent and I'm constantly looking up things to challenge my nephew's education.
I played a little baseball in high school and have researched baseball drills religiously to give my oldest nephew good baseball advice and training. Hours upon hours of drills, picking which ones make sense, and building a foundation of that in him, all so he improves.
Everyone constantly complains about how they don't have enough time to work, parent, have lives. The most important thing you are, is a parent. Your children trump everything. Invest in them. They don't need flashy gadgets and gizmos, they need to thrive in a world that's flipped upside down.
Rant over. Nothing more triggering than parents who just blame schools instead of trying to do right by their kids.
You are most certainly correct that the most important role is that of being a parent, if one has kids (or kids in their sphere of influence, such as yourself.
Yes! And go to the school board meetings -- you are not only a parent but a taxpayer as well. So, you should at least know what's being done within your schools, that you are paying for!
All taxpayers should attend, but parents have a double stake. My husband and I can get a lot of education done just taking a trip to one of the state parks or even a day spent in the family garden: science, math, history, English (speaking/listening/thinking skills), PE, even the arts and foreign language. Hell, that's nearly the entirety of K-12 curriculum in one fun, family afternoon outing!
Beautifully said. I constantly talk to my wife and bring up homeschooling at least until a certain age. I am not about to let my future kids be sabotaged by the butchers currently in the system.
I'm still holding out hope that we live near an affordable private school with good numbers.
As a teacher and you are 100 percent right. All of my best students they had homes that really valued education like you. While I was Teaching elementary grades all the successful students came back from weekends usually giving me a cool lesson about something they did with their relatives. Their interest in learning only kept on growing
I wish Latin reading comprehension was required
As well as civics. Not just "We have checks and balances" but "Here is WHY we have checks and balances. Also here is why socialism and communism failed."
Nothing makes me angrier than when leftists attempt to undermine checks & balances when it doesn't go their way.
It's funny you mentioned Latin. I started studying Latin a few months ago and it has improved my English reading and writing. I agree it should be required as it is one of the foundations of western civilization.
I had a similar experience. When I was a young warthog, I could not understand English grammar at all. The scales fell from my eyes when I began studying Latin in High School.
I totally agree, and think everyone should learn Latin, Greek, or both.
BTW, I liked Latin so much that I took the username "King of Forest Hills" in Latin. Salve! :)
How did it exactly help your English?
Roughly 29% of English vocabulary derives from Latin, it helps when trying to understand the meaning of words I don't know--if they are Latin based. Also Latin forced me to learn a lot of new grammar mechanics and review old ones. You end up needing to really know how to break down a sentence into its components(supine, participles, gerunds, etc.). This naturally carries to English, as the principles are the same.
Latin prefixes and suffixes constitute many words in modern english
All this, and I still have to listen to anti-nationalist and anti-white rhetoric from the principal at my sister's high school GRADUATION CEREMONY. Get back to doing your job, you filthy slob. Imagine turning a graduation into a political rally.
https://youtu.be/IQPsKvG6WMI
I had a calculus prof that let us bring in small formula cheat sheets to tests. He casully mentioned offhand then when he was doing his physics undergrad 40 years prior they had 10x more formulas and they had to memorize all of them.
I agree completely. As long as kids know what to do and why they are doing it, they don't need to memorize what they can simply reference.
We have kids who have trouble doing basic, two digit multiplication and even addition because they have to stop and think about if 2x6=12. That' crazy; you shouldn't have to look that up or even think about it much.
Now, there are many ways of committing things to our memory; it doesn't have to only be rote learning (although that is one way and should be used when appropriate), but it is rather important at the basic level just because it makes the more advanced things come more easily.
I wasn't trying to say that kids should be using reference charts every time they wanted to do basic arithmetic, although I didn't qualify my statement I admit. I'm thinking more along the lines of the formulas that I used cheat sheets for in engineering. It didn't hurt my learning development to not learn all that stuff, the cheating I did was more than satisfactory, and the way I would do it in rea world application.
I understand completely. Beginning at about the jr. high level through high school, you SHOULD be able to start transitioning over to learning what to use, when to use it, why/how you use it, and where to find that information. But our educational system has taken the notion to teach this at the elementary level and do away with rote/memory learning of the basics. Well, you can't do the advanced work if the basics don't come easily (like driving), and that's what we are seeing now -- it's going to be a real problem imho later on. Good memory serves a function in cognitive ability/brain health especially as we get older...what happens to these kids when they get older and have not developed those neural connections in the brain? (on top of having to stop and think about basic things while doing advanced work)
I agree that if you don't memorize your times tables, you are going to have a rough time. It needs to be automatic when you see that sort of thing. I didn't know that they stopped doing that.
Yes...yes to a certain extent (a lot of it depends upon the school district and the individual teacher -- how much said teacher buys into what they learn at 'continuing education' seminars). That's because the education 'experts' who put on said teacher's seminars/workshops have been pushing the idea of "student centered learning" and have then argued that rote/memory learning doesn't allow "student centered learning" (ask me about that one; I dare anyone!), nor does it teach "critical thinking skills that students must have" (which they do...but let's first teach elementary kids that 2x6=12 and "compound sentences are 2 independent clauses joined by a comma and coordinating conjunction"). Yeah, that's where we are at...fml.
Why dont you just listen to the unbiased antischooling post
Yes, no -- depends upon the level and what is being taught. At the college level, being able to know and find is more important. At the elementary level some things really do need to be taught by rote, committed to memory, and made so commonplace that you don't have to really think about them (kinda like driving a car). Unfortunately, a lot of curriculum/pedagogy 'specialists' have taken the tack that memory learning is not good even at the kindergarten level...and thus we have kids who can't do basic math or spelling/grammar...who turn into adults who really can't do it well either.
Couldn't you extend that argument to the multiplication tables? Why remember that 12x12=144 if you can just look up a calculator (or a written table)? Or the alphabet, for that matter.
How does
not
apply to multiplication tables?
I've thought pretty hard about it. I think I can use your help
People use that excuse: when I have a job I will be able to google anything, what's the point of memorizing? The point is to set the bar as high as possible so your degree actually has prestiege.
Memory is a skill that can be developed like any other. Schools stopped teaching it decades ago and now we have voters who can't remember what happened before the previous election. Coincidence?
You don't see any problem in miseducated voters with the memory of a goldfish?
Some people can memorize better than others. Why shoulden't people learn the extent of what they are actually capable of while in school? Higher education should be difficult.
Interesting that memorization techniques are rarely taught.
The pos wants them dumb
So true
How do you do the top one? D:
Edit: assuming the following (starting top left, clockwise): R4, R10, R6, R5
[area of rectangle] - [area of corner cutouts]
(20 x 30) - {[(8^2)-(pi*4^2)]/4} - [(pi*10^2)/4] - {[(12^2)-(pi*6^2)]/4} - [(pi*5^2)/4]
= 600 - (3.4) - (78.5) - (7.7) - (19.6)
= 490.8
I'm glad I understand this lol
love this idea
i used to paint pixel by pixel when i was a kid on a 386 w software downloaded from a bbs
it was insane, made for summer vacation time
You'd have to be assuming r in all four corners though to work that out.
correct. I updated the comment to show my assumptions.
Yes! I got this too! I'm glad I worked it out (though I got 490.66)
Is it typical to refer to the radius as R[Length]? I've never see the radius referred to this way.
Would you refer the diameters as D6, D20, etc.?
In CAD yea.
In some drafting standards yes, but I was mostly copying the format of the picture.
When I took calculus getting the area of an irregular object blew my mind. Its important for engineering/structural shapes though.
EVERYONE should take an advanced math, not that they would actually use the formulas; rather it trains the brain to create new neural connections for analytical/critical thinking.
I've seen arguments that calculus should be introduced earlier, like right after algebra. There's no reason why you need trig or geometry to understand the core ideas of rate of change, cumulative functions, and limits. I think a lot of people never get past the trig/pre-calc barrier and never really learn what higher level maths are like (no equation memorization, much more creativity) and have a completely wrong impression of math.
I think common core attempts to address that failing of math education. I know a lot of people don't like it and I'm not claiming that it's good, but I do think it's good at least that math educators recognize that people not really getting to see the beauty of math unless they make it to calculus is a good thing.
You could teach calculus principles without Trig. You just wont get very far. Ideally teachers early one would be hinting at what the fundamental concepts are of higher level math. Trig is only really required to solve specific problems since they have nice derivatives and identities.
No, it isn't. It's only required for taking derivatives of/integrating trig functions, which you don't care about before trig, and for using the identities to integrate some tricky functions.
It's required to make a good grade as it is taught today, yes. That's because it's traditionally taught after trig so they just go ahead and integrate it, but there's no reason why you couldn't teach it before and then, during trig, throw in how to differentiate/integrate trig functions as well as the useful trig identities that show up in integrating certain functions.
Trust me as someone half-way through an engineering PhD, as I said before, the core concepts of calculus do not require trigonometry to be taught. Rate of change, cumulation (integration), and limits can all be taught without trig. Hell, you can teach them all with just polynomials.
If you don't understand that, perhaps it's because you couldn't see the forest for the trees. If you came away from calculus thinking that it is closely related to trig in a special way moreso than other math topics (like algebra, logarithms, exponents, etc.) then the education system has failed you.
Great explanation. Maybe more of a hybrid approach, where they teach principals side by side, that way you get a refresher each year (which most students need anyways after summer... or covid).
I do think you would miss out if you didnt understand polar coordinates during integration though.
trig and geometry are super handy in the trades - building or making things or repairing them is made way easier with those math skillz built on arithmetic that is near instinctual.
calculus is a big shoulder shrug in terms of value in my life, but i viewed it as equivalent to reading the classics. our civilization is built on the stuff.
when i use real world stuff to show the power of math, people love the hell out of it. book learned math is like a cancer that ruins the whole field for most of us normies
Calculate the surface area of the rectangle. (L x W) [600]
Calculate the area [A] of the top right and bottom left circles. (A = pi x r^2) [78.5] and [314]
Calculate the area of the circles encompassing the rectangle, which appears to be 1/4. [19.63] and [78.5]
Add the quarter circle areas [98.13]
Subreact the area in #4 from the total surface area in #1. [501.87]
The only part I can't get is how to get the rounded edges from the top left and bottom right.
Edit: see my response to the first reply.
top left and bottom right:
(Area of the bounding square - area of the circle) divided by 4
So top left A=50.24
Circumference is 8, making an encompassing square 64, subtract circle and quarter it, giving 2.44.
Repeating same for opposite corner, A=113.04. Square 144, quartered difference is 0.24...
499.19?
bounding square is L x W, or D x D, or 2R x 2R = (2x4) x (2x4) = 64
circle is (Pi x R^2) = 3.141 x (4 x 4) = 50.26
subtract full circle from full square: 64 - 50.26 = 13.74
divide by 4 to get the lone quarter: 13.74 / 4 = 3.43
There appears to be text showing radius? just like for the other two corner cut outs but its too blurry and I can't read them.
I assumed the following (starting top left, clockwise): R4, R10, R6, R5
Looks like 4 and 6
This gives you the area of a weird shape [A]. Note that each corner of the shape could fill the gap created by a rounded corner of the rectangle.
Not sure if my edit went through, but the steps should be numbered 1,2,3,4, not 1,2,4,5.
To get the corners, calculate the area of a square with the radius of the circle, then subtract the area of a quarter-circle from your square which you're left with the area of the corner. Then that is subtracted from the main shape.
You find the area of the rectangle, then subtract the missing area from the four corners.
Rectangle =20x30=600
Top right missing portion is a quarter of a circle with radius 10 =(1/4)×π×10^2=78.5
Bottom left is the same as top right but with radius 5 =(1/4)×π×5^2=19.6
Top left (R4?) is 1/4 of the area of a 8x8 square minus an R4 circle =(1/4)×(8×8-π×4^2)=3.43
Bottom right is the same but with R5? =(1/4)×(10x10-π×5^2)=5.37
Total = 600-78.5-19.6-3.43-5.37 =493.1
Just think of the two parts cut out as quarter circles. You have a point thats the center of the circle and a point thats at the edge. Using the distance formula for points you can calculate the length that line. Thats the radius of the circle, area of the circle is 2piradius, then you have to divide that by 4 to get the area of the missing part.
Same with the bottom left. You calculate those two quarter circle areas and subtract it from the length times width of the entire rectangle.
Ohhh looking closer at the image they actually give you the corresponding radius length of each circle "R10, and R5" so its actually a little easier. No distance formula needed.
Lol.. This was on reddit once. Got into a whole argument with a millennial, he said the 1940 was impossible to solve. Gave him the complete formula of how to solve it, and he went ballistic. Doubled down on his stupidity by zooming in on the picture to prove there are more pixels in some area then in the other. I don't give a crap about the pixels, all the data is in the picture.
Yikes. I'm a fellow millennial, and math is my kryptonite, but even I can see how it's solved. It would take me all day and half the night, but I would get it done eventually. I'm kind of relieved we had the dummy-level math when I was in school though!
OK what's the answer?
Uh oh, now that I'm called out, I shouldn't have been so sassy. I believe you start with the area of the whole rectangle, then calculate the area of the two cut-out circles, using the radius given. Subtract 1/4 of the area of both those circles from the area of the rectangle. Then you move to the rounded edges, which I had to really think about, but I believe you start by calculating the area of both the circles using the radius again (it's a bit blurry, but I assume that's what those numbers are). Then I think you mentally pretend each of those circles are in a square, so calculate the area of the "square", subtract the area of the circle from the area of its "square", you should be left with just the edge corners. Subtract 1/4 of that amount from the rectangle, and that should give you the rounded corner. Was I close?
Nope. Spot on.
Usually, there’s a line about the diagram not being drawn to scale.
2024: Eat your glue stick and shut up
One of these put men on the moon. Another doesn't know what a man is.
This is so true. Watch a feminazi struggling to describe what a woman is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIxTbMgYI68
This is why feminism is cancer.
Imma go full stupid here. I am a teacher, so I see this shit happening right in front of me.
It's rather reductionist, but if you think about what the purpose of a public school education is, then they are actually achieving the desired results with this work.
Just as an example. The hot new buzzword in education right now is Social-Emotional Learning, or SEL. It's trying to raise kids to be more aware of their emotions and how to show empathy, establish relationships, so on so forth.
This wouldn't be problem if public education shifted it's philosophic center. But the colleges and school administration are invested in this idea of "Democracy in the classroom", which sound good because, hey, democracy, but it's actually practicing the ideas of political socialism in the classroom. There is no way schools will be able to teach SEL respectfully of parents choices. So hope this shit as well as covid completely destroy public schools because they are rotten institutions. And I work for one!
I enthusiastically second that. I homeschooled through middle school and high school. The level of understanding / mastery I got from Saxon Math was incredible. Went on to be a Math Major (among other things),
No idiot left behind,everyone gets a star on the calendar.
I caught up with a good childhood friend of mine last week. He's now a schoolteacher in Nevada...and he's pissed. He has to go through an endless carousel of sensitivity trainings, the learning standards are crap, he's not allowed to discipline students, and parents are blaming the teachers for their kids being out of control at home.
He must love being a teacher to still be teaching in all this.
"Like" or "Dislike" assumes literacy, you racist.
There will be a 'thumbs up' that you circle.
There is no 'dislike', because that might detract from a "safe space" or be used to perpetuate white supremacy and the patriarchy.
(Although those two words will be combined in 2023 to be 'White Supatriarchy', which will just be shortened to 'Supatriarchy', to stand for all bad things and Wrongthink.)
Eventually, that will prove too cumbersome, and 'Supatriarchy' will just be shortened to 'Supatriot'.
In its final form, the word to describe someone who is Wrongthinking will just be 'patriot'
In 2031, some Boomer (over 30) Patriots will go on and on about how being a 'patriot' used to be a good thing, but they will be shouted down by the blue-haired 'Word Safety Officers' for promoting the racist past.
Homeschool, and the Thomas Jefferson Education curriculum.
Don’t forget the pledge of allegiance
If this is true then what the fuck has Betsy been doing for the past 4 years??
I love the concept being presented here, but it should be area or perimeter. Surface area is for 3 dimensional objects.
Glad someone said it, and with tact.
It would probably be less effective this way, but another entry could be added:
... then write about how rectangles of color have experienced institutionalized racism over time.
2025: images of soviet flag, blm flag, and antifa flag “bow down and worship the flag of your choice.”
The 1940 one is 490.667 if you assume the center point of the radius is on the corner and the fillets are tangent.
The answer is Canada, isn’t it?
CanaZuela
History classes in college is racial studies. Like Chicano studies, native American studies, and African studies.
It's all worthless shit that tells you conservatives are evil.
I still remember back in college there was outrage at a professor who said he is not awarding partial credit. For those who don’t know, partial credit for an answer is pretty common and what it basically means is the professor looks at your work and if you were on the right track but got the wrong answer, you would get 1/4, 1/2, or 3/4 credit based on how far you got before you made a mistake.
This professor said when you get the answer, circle it as that’s the only thing he will look at. If you get it right, full credit. Wrong, zero credit. This was a college level engineering course and he said partial credit doesn’t exist in industry, you either do it right or you get fired so why should he give partial credit?
Assuming that professor was writing complex questions that were extremely difficult, and that a partial credit for a legit close solution is the difference between passing and failing the course and having to borrow/pay many thousands more for tuition to retake the course bc that professor is out of touch and doesn’t the dire consequences of his actions, I strongly disagree.
My liberal arts STEM education (graduated 2008) was incredible. Never took a scantron. In organic chemistry mechanisms and syntheses we had questions that involved a complex synthesis of a chemical but the lab is missing the obvious and best reagent and you had to devise an alternative route on the spot. He even threw a theoretical chemical on an exam at least once. There had to be partial credit or else most of the class would have failed. And there was more than one ‘rigjt’ answer.
There is definitely partial credit in real world science. I went to dental school and it it was the opposite of undergrad and it was mostly scantron exams. It was awful. Over and over again there were instances of me and other students proposing legit correct answers based on published science that the bullheaded professor wouldn’t accept as correct in their ridiculous exam bc it wasn’t their idea of the correct answer. More than once it resulted me in having to remediate an entire course or getting a full grade lower when I was in gpa danger zone.
I don’t know what type or level of engineering course that professor in your story was teaching, but based on what you described and my extensive experience in academia, fuck that professor. You can tell who studied and gained enough of an understanding of the subject to think critically about it and who didn’t. He sounds like a lazy know it all blow hard
I disagree with your opinion, but I will still give you the upvote for the very high effort and well written rebuttal.
*2020 What does this shape identify as?
We had this joke widely popular back in Russia right before Soviet Union collapse.
Coincidence?
Democrats are untermensch.
They cannot discriminate in any way. Even grades isn't fair to them because the right answer becomes discriminating.
They cannot be allowed to infect our schools.
Things in life are competitive. If you don't like it, leave to another country.
2020: Color the rectangle with the color you prefer, except white, you bigot!
I can attest schools are dumbing everything down. I have gone to school in 3 decades 00s, 10s, and now 20s.
I graduated past the half way mark of the 00s, and high school math and English and pretty much everything else was pretty though for me.
Then I ended up going to college a few years later in 09-10, and noticed it was easier than high school. I somehow became an A student without trying as hard.
Then I dropped out in 11, and went back again near the end of the decade. I literally got an Associates with a 4.0 without ever doing assigned reading or studying, or literally trying at all (with the exception of my language class, which have all been Japanese who aren’t cucked).
The homework now overwhelming amounts to responding to articles and providing your personal opinion. Doesn’t matter the class. You get full points for saying anything. I dont read anything though. I skim paragraphs in the middle and take out keywords and vomit them into sentences. Partly because the teachers give no incentive to care. Their feedback is useless. Their teaching is useless. I dont want to waste the energy anymore.
I recall one time my teacher gave me a “Great response very thorough!” Comment and I didn’t even skim the article that time. I forgot about the assignment 5 minutes before it was due, and literally just made shit up. I laughed a while after getting 100% on it.
A final paper I had to do for one class this last semester was supposed to be 10 pages. I only did 6, didn’t even ducking finish the argument. I already passed the class at that point so I said fuck it. The last 2 terms I’ve been extra IDGAF. Still got 80% with 6/10 pages! I didn’t even do good research! I googled some news articles lol that said what I needed it to say to make the paper easier to write. Total bullshit research was rewarded with 80%. I got an A in the class.
I’m so close to a bachelors but I am done. So done. I am going to rejoin the work force, and not use my own savings or loans anymore. I might still take 1 class a term online or something just so I can eventually get my bachelors. But I’ll only pay out of my monthly expenses. I really set my life back financially and socially returning to school and regret every ducking moment of it.
I learned on the 1980 one. Fuck that 1940's one.
I fucking hate math with a deep and firey passion but it is sad that it's come to this.
2010 Boiz where ya at
Suuuuuup?
WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING SHE’S A RECTANGLE BIGOT REEEEEEEE
But what if the rectangle identifies as a circle?
So true. Additionally what if the rectangle is non-binary and defines itself as any other geometric shape at any time it wants?
Sad but true.
This is incorrect. Several family members in education confirm this. Now it’s:
“Please write your name at the top of the paper to receive 60% passing credit.*”
Color the rectangle with the color you prefer*
*but not white, you racist!
They are still teaching Common Core in Texas schools here from what I've heard.
The amount of ignorance in this alone to me Is near treason. Because it's purposefully made to make that which has already been simplified to be complex. Which means it's meant to cause confusion and parents inability to assist their children.
Any school that continues to teach such filth like women studies and BLM curriculum need to be put in jail. All teachers and faculties alike.
2020 should be "Color the rectangle with the color you prefer. If you identify as BIPOC, you get 10 additional points."
2025: Free college education is a right. Proceed directly to your graduation ceremony. Your family will whoop and holler as you twerk//floss/moonwalk across the stage.
While obviously meant to be a joke, in ways it's not too far off.
Started college in 2000 and life had its own plans. After spreading a few years at some jobs and experiencing corporate life a little I decided to finish my degrees after my jobs contract was up rather than sign up for another round.
There's a huge difference between how classes are taught now and only 20 years ago. Schools have embraced the "flipped classroom" model where in theory what's supposed to happen is the students learn the material on their own at home, come to class where the instructor QUICKLY skims over what you were supposed to learn, then 50-75% of the time is spent in groups going over problems. In theory.....but that's not how it works. In practice 95% of the students DON'T do the "learning on your own" part at home and the only time they're taught is in the brief overview in the classroom. They don't do the home shit for many reasons...in college we just have too much shit going on, in lower grades...well they're fucking kids and of course kids aren't going to read text books if it's not actually assigned and the teacher will just go over it anyway.
The result is that the bar has fallen lower to account for the lower average performance. Some classes actually have "group tests" where quizzes and sometimes even midterms and finals are group based. And of course you pass because students essentially crowdsource the correct answers.
And this was pre covid...the bar is even lower now because instructors can't teach at 100% virtually and students aren't 100% engaged virtually.
I recall 20 years ago instructors actually teaching the material and using texts to reiterate the important information if I needed it. Then doing homework. Now there is no reading, the instruction is a third to half as long, then a lot of fumbling around for answers and passing grades still getting handed out....it's kind of a fucking joke to be honest.
I have a theory why they made the change, money. With the way they have it setup now they can utilize lower quality instructors to teach larger classes and keep their paying students happy by passing them. The. claim that they're being cutting edge by forcing students to learn how to work in groups because "that's how it works in the real world."
I think one of the things for the flipped classroom was the cutesy saying "moving from sage on the stage to guide on the side." Just because it rhymes doesn't mean it's true, or the best way forward. It depends on the topic, but the absolute best teachers I had followed the so-called "sage on the stage" model, because they were really good teachers who knew their topic. One high school history teacher just lectured, and he held us enthralled the whole time, he was old and had a host of stories that illustrated various points, and was brutally truthful about politics (no playing with communism for him!). Telling him to flip the classroom and be a "guide on the side" would have meant far less learning for the students.
Nah, we're past the coloring phase.
Clearly, the rectangle is white, and therefore racist, so the task is to yell 'RACIST!' while it's in sight.
Michael Jackson! Heheheeee