If the driver of the truck started blasting them with no further provocation I would consider it self defense.
Armed thugs are blocking the street. Blocking it unarmed is bad enough, but with loaded guns? I hope somebody blows those guys away and faces zero consequences for it, because what they're doing is called menacing.
One of my stock responses to morons talking about “peaceful protesters” creating impromptu roadblocks is “Bad things happen, people die at roadblocks. Ask an Iraqi. Ask Reginald Denny. Ask the 8-year-old girl near the Rayshard Brooks Wendy’s.”
Yep. IMHO, the driver was too gentle in trying to leave. If unknown armed individuals surrounding my vehicle, I would consider any action to get out self defense. I would not have done the "gentle" back up, move forward, back up, etc. rather quick deliberate actions. It look like other cars had blocked a easy path in reverse, and the best bet would be to back up a bit, then find the clearest path forward and take it not letting off the gas or stopping until you are clear.
100% I would acquit on a jury if someone killed a domestic terrorist because the police refused to do their job. These people shouldn't be allowed in the streets in the first place.
In 2004 Calgary, I asked the staff at Cinescape Eau Claire to put a sign instructing how to hold the light gun prop of Time Crisis 3 (which has a moving slide) correctly for both immersion purposes, and to keep it from being damaged 'cus people would hold the slide still with a thumb, and that was really hard on the solenoid, which was dead for months before they had just fixed it. Pretty much this description in the letter caused the upscale urban pussies on the staff to wet themselves (I'm paraphrasing what they told me, obviously) and I never returned. It didn't help that, around the same time, they pulled 8 linked multiplayer consoles for a horse racing game without warning a day before a local gaming club had scheduled an event on that game, leaving the power cords strewn all over the floor where they were. They stayed in business; I'm not sure why, but maybe they were so financially attached to the local Cineplex that their revenue performance was a non-issue. I haven't been in the building in ten years, so I have no idea what's there right now. I wouldn't be too surprised if it had more plywood than glass in the windows at this point.
You bitched to a business about a fake gun in tc3?.......... bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahavahahahavhahahahahahahahahahhahhahahhahahhahah!!!!!
If I were in that truck I would see a gun pointed at my vehicle and act accordingly. Easy to play armchair qb here on the internet; if someone draws a gun on me as far as my lawyer is concerned I feared for my life.
I think the key to the self defense argument now is to not yell anything at them before running them down. The minute they have you on video yelling “clear out motherfucker before I turn you into pothole fill”, it will be hard to prove that you feared imminent danger.
Tiger boy looks to have his finger on the trigger.
Duck down and hit the gas
Do we give a few complimentary revs, or just floor it?
3500lb @ 50mph > 230gr @ 900fps.
If the driver of the truck started blasting them with no further provocation I would consider it self defense.
Armed thugs are blocking the street. Blocking it unarmed is bad enough, but with loaded guns? I hope somebody blows those guys away and faces zero consequences for it, because what they're doing is called menacing.
Unfortunately there’s no backstop. Can’t get a clean shot in that scenario. I respect the driver’s discipline.
And I’m told there were several other armed rioters present by someone who watched the video of this event.
As I used to tell my driver in Iraq, "the truck is your weapon".
One of my stock responses to morons talking about “peaceful protesters” creating impromptu roadblocks is “Bad things happen, people die at roadblocks. Ask an Iraqi. Ask Reginald Denny. Ask the 8-year-old girl near the Rayshard Brooks Wendy’s.”
Did she catch a stray bullet?
Yep. IMHO, the driver was too gentle in trying to leave. If unknown armed individuals surrounding my vehicle, I would consider any action to get out self defense. I would not have done the "gentle" back up, move forward, back up, etc. rather quick deliberate actions. It look like other cars had blocked a easy path in reverse, and the best bet would be to back up a bit, then find the clearest path forward and take it not letting off the gas or stopping until you are clear.
Did everybody make it out ok?
Law says you don't have to go nearly to the extent you describe. Just GTFO and you're fine
100% I would acquit on a jury if someone killed a domestic terrorist because the police refused to do their job. These people shouldn't be allowed in the streets in the first place.
In 2004 Calgary, I asked the staff at Cinescape Eau Claire to put a sign instructing how to hold the light gun prop of Time Crisis 3 (which has a moving slide) correctly for both immersion purposes, and to keep it from being damaged 'cus people would hold the slide still with a thumb, and that was really hard on the solenoid, which was dead for months before they had just fixed it. Pretty much this description in the letter caused the upscale urban pussies on the staff to wet themselves (I'm paraphrasing what they told me, obviously) and I never returned. It didn't help that, around the same time, they pulled 8 linked multiplayer consoles for a horse racing game without warning a day before a local gaming club had scheduled an event on that game, leaving the power cords strewn all over the floor where they were. They stayed in business; I'm not sure why, but maybe they were so financially attached to the local Cineplex that their revenue performance was a non-issue. I haven't been in the building in ten years, so I have no idea what's there right now. I wouldn't be too surprised if it had more plywood than glass in the windows at this point.
You bitched to a business about a fake gun in tc3?.......... bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahavahahahavhahahahahahahahahahhahhahahhahahhahah!!!!!
Nah. Thats a compact gun its around the guard.
Yeah it could be, hard to tell 100%. If I was in that truck I would think it was on the trigger. (if I could see it, he is pretty close)
If I were in that truck I would see a gun pointed at my vehicle and act accordingly. Easy to play armchair qb here on the internet; if someone draws a gun on me as far as my lawyer is concerned I feared for my life.
Agreed on all counts.
I think the key to the self defense argument now is to not yell anything at them before running them down. The minute they have you on video yelling “clear out motherfucker before I turn you into pothole fill”, it will be hard to prove that you feared imminent danger.
Yep, no trigger discipline. That booger hook is definitely inside the trigger guard at least.
Zebra*
lol, um... it identifies as a tiger?
(not changing original comment, Ill own that misidentification)