National Nagasaki Day God bless America
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Fuck, I still have my Hiroshima decorations up!!!!
Thats the best nuclear war joke possible.
I just fallout my chair
these jokes just keep mushrooming out of control
never before america.
Until you tell it again.
The joke that literally causes cancer.
nuclear dna is altered.
A true ray of sunshine.
bring back water cannons!
And Conans
Beirut went all out for it this year.
Totally let the bomb drop
That was a bunny fart.
75 years ago today they were recognized by the United States for their achievements. The celebration lit up the world. All participants left glowing reviews. Everyone had a blast. It was like all their troubles were gone in a flash.
A little histroy: Like many cities of industry, it quickly became a boom town. Many people of renown have cast a permanent shadow on the city. It's known as Japan's 'Second City'. Has been voted hottest city to exist in.
Don’t forget the million+ projected Japanese casualties. The bombings were horrific, but they prevented worse tragedy (not to mention deterred further use of atomic weapons).
Spez: It’s also worth mentioning that the bombings were on military targets that were meshed in with civilian areas. They were called out on that when the presidential speech on the attacks was given.
Tyrants love building military bases in civilian areas. Always makes for good propaganda when the enemy attacks the base...those poor civilians!
Thankfully our response to that was a bigger focus on precision, rather than area-of-effect, strikes. Those bladed missiles we’ve been deploying recently are a great example of that.
Fun fact: the Air Force has been trying to employ precision daylight bombing literally since WWI. Like, to a myopic, obsessive degree. To a degree that precluded and prevented development in other areas. It’s only with the advent of GPS that we were able to achieve that goal.
I hope we never retire the A-10. That is one of the baddest planes ever.
O' look, a terrorist! Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt!
A-10. Kills tanks dead.
We almost got there with pigeons trained to peck on glass plates that would steer bombs. We will literally go as far as training flying rats to fly explosives into your cities.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Pigeon
There was also a project to use bats carrying incendiaries against Japan, but that was more of an area weapon. My favorite part of the article I read about it many years ago was something like, "Sensing that the project was a disaster, the Army took the most logical course of action and handed the whole thing off to the Navy."
You couldn't make a movie about the best WWII stories, because no one would believe them.
yeah they always have their “Portland Wall of Moms”
To be fair US bases are the same way. And you could easily argue our govt is tyrannical.
I honestly don’t understand what’s wrong with attacking civilian areas. Are the lives of soldiers worth less than those of civilians?
Hell no. Let God sort em out.
He said military 'targets' not bases. Manufacturing was historically done in proximity to other manufacturing, transit, and general civilization (read: civilians) out of logistical efficiency.
Yes, this. Horrible as they were, the atomic bombings were the lesser of two evils.
Was just about to say this. There is no way the Japanese would have surrendered short of massive loss of life. The nuclear bombs were a mercy.
The firebombing of Tokyo was worse and just a taste of what invasion would look like. Same goes for Saipan and people flinging themselves off cliffs. In the grand scheme of things dropping the nukes was more humane macabre ad that sounds.
In the long run, it was far better to sacrifice two cities than to attempt that invasion because that would have destroyed Japan, weakened the US, and allowed for the USSR to take over.
The fact that we had to bomb Nagasaki because Hiroshima wasn't enough is all the proof you need that nuking them was the right thing to do. They never would have surrendered otherwise.
Much of the IJA didn't want to surrender even after Nagasaki. There was a major internal power struggle and a lot of good fortune that enabled the surrender. We were lucky it only took two bombs.
The Kyujo Incident. Had they succeeded, Japan has a two front war on its home turf with Americans in the South and Soviets in the North.
Which would have introduced "Operation Downfall." That's not taking into account that 2 more atom bombs were on their way and the U.S. was pondering dropping even more before a single solitary Allied soldier stepped foot into Japan.
Not only that, if Japan were so eager to surrender, then why were there still fights going on in China, Southeast Asia, and other Asian territories well over a month after Nagasaki?
We were gonna keep dropping atomic bombs if they didn't surrender. There would have been more than 2 more.
The Soviets declaring war was what got everybody on board. The Japanese absolutely did not want communism or a partitioned country.
Especially since we only had 2 bombs. There were plans to industrialize the plutonium process, and we had the materials for like 50 Fat boy bombs, but it would have been at least a month before we could have gotten another one ready. Thankfully the Japanese believed that we would be able to drop a nuke every week.
Little boy was uranium.....we had 2 different types.
Yes it was, but we didn’t have the U-235 to make another one. Little boy was easier to make, but the Uranium was difficult to refine. Fat boy was harder to make, but the Plutonium was easier to produce (once we figured it out).
Killing women, children, christians and buddhist pacifists was not the way. Bombing political infrastructure, nuclear demonstration, and propaganda was the moral way forward imo. Time was on our side at that point.
You do realize we’d already firebombed the shit out of Tokyo, right? Flattened the vast majority of the city. There were no other major political targets to go after, and Hiroshima was picked due to weapons factories in town.
Hiroshima was preserved for the atom bomb. Fact, not conjecture.
It was largely unscathed, before Little Boy was dropped on August 6th 1945.
We needed an accurate demonstration of what one bomb could do with atomics.
Political infrastructure? LOL. What are you talking about? You wanted Truman to put a bomb down the Emperor's chimney?
You're aware of how inaccurate bombing of the WW2 era was, right?
The other thing is that if the Emperor was killed, we never would have gotten a surrender. The military would have fought to the last man, they would never have dishonored their martyred Emperor. The Emperor was the only person who held more power than the Generals.
There is a great book called Japan's War that is probably the most comprehensive historical work on the Japanese perspective of the war, especially the inner workings of the Japanese military leadership. Read the last few chapters and get back to me.
No, it wasn’t. The prolonging of the war would have led to millions of Japanese dying of starvation, according to Japanese historians. (Both from Japan and specialized in history of Japan.)
democrat president gonna democrat i guess
The official reports given to Truman estimated 500K, including all of the island-hopping needed to get there.
I, as a part Japanese American, argued for the usage of the bombs in high school in one of the most rigged debates ever. I knew I was never going to win, but I chose that side and died on that hill. The Japanese were fanatical; only by presenting them with total annihilation would they surrender. My classmates didn’t understand some soldiers and even civilians would literally kill themselves rather than surrender. Banzai charges were an actual tactic they used, even though they seem insane to a rational person. They made a massive about face in the modern era, but that doesn’t mean they should retroactively be absolved of the inhumane things they did in the war.
On Iwo Jima when they ran out of ammo they tried to make swords out of discarded coffee cans and banzai charge tanks.
People also seem to overlook the fact that probably every other plan was discussed by top military strategists and leaders, and this is the only/best viable option they had. Its not like Truman just woke up and said "fuck it, drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki". They understood the consequences and went ahead with the plan.
Worse. WORSE.
The stories about Nazis making lampshades out of human skin are complete bullshit. But the ones about Japanese Unit 731 vivisecting pregnant Chinese women are true.
They fucked around and found out.
I would say this sticky is in poor taste....
Without disagreeing with the bombings, idk why we would be celebrating something like this whenever the country in question is probably our greatest ally now.
My reasoning exactly. Specially when Japan is one of the few remaining conservative cultures out there.
A direct violation of the "don't be dumb rule btw".
Japan is probably our greatest ally.
Imperial Japan never was.
It's the same people and they've completely redeemed themselves. They deserve to be shown our respect.
Great baseball fans, too. That counts for something. It's what gives me hope for Cuba.
They deserved worse. That ally has no military. Absolutely castrated.
Lol what. They have the second most powerful navy in the world and a really powerful airforce that they routinely flex at China. They just classify and configure their carriers differently to abide by their constitution, but they could have them fully capable and on tier with most US carriers in very short order if needed.
How many pedes on here have visited Hiroshima or Nagasaki? Practically none. Don't glorify a tragedy of war. Yes, it could have been worse as an alternative to that, but many human lives and especially civilians were lost. The museum in Hiroshima was humbling.
Agreed. Some people on here are not the best representation of what Conservatism has to offer, and shines a bad light on what we're trying to be about. Dehumanizing people really doesn't make the situation we're currently in any better.
War Hawks are not what I'm about. War is the last option.
That would be good to shed some light on those who are glorifying war. When one is 18-25 and lacking context, it is easy to be misguided and manipulated. That's often how the military gets the next generation of recruits. Many are looking for that conflict and crave it. Once the brain fully develops and life experiences happen, often times the reality of conflict sets in and views change. For some, that never happens.
I'm all for defending America 100%....when it is necessary.
JUST LIKE WHAT THE MILITARY DID IN 2003
I'd like to see those.
Glad there is some people who recognize this. When I was young, I delivered newspapers for an old Japanese woman. She was missing a leg and I never asked but assumed it was from the war. She married a service man who passed away and was always nice and happy to have someone to talk to. Lots of innocent people were caught up in war, even if it was necessary I don't even think people who served celebrated the bombs.
Wished they were humbled before they did what they did
"Have you personally visited stalingrad or communist russia? No? Guess you can't dunk on communism now~"
That's you. That's what you sound like.
Does the 4th of July offend British people? Does the Alamo offend Mexicans? Does shitting on nazis offend Germans? Should we give a fuck even if they do?
No. The people who died in those bombings were the enemy. Even the civilians. Governments dont grow out of the dirt, they're propped up by the people and the buck stops with them. Cry into your handkerchief all you want, but dont expect the rest of us to be ashamed of winning a war.
Who said to be ashamed of winning a war? You need to reread my posts carefully. You're putting words in my mouth that simply aren't there and making comparisons to setting up a strawman to attack. Weak. I said don't glorify tragedy and that it was humbling to see what the civilians of an imperial empire which the buck DIDN'T stop with them went through.
You have a very black and white view of war. All Japanese were the enemy, they all were at fault therefore clean conscience. Did you serve? Sure doesn't sound like it...war is hell.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm taking your assertions to their logical conclusion. Something you dont want to do because you dont like where it leads. Oh, but I'm sure you totally dont want to shame us over winning, you just dont like that we have a "clear conscience". Nice mask slip.
And the buck ALWAYS stops with the people. People always get the government they deserve. That's why its "my country right or wrong, AND IF IT BE WRONG LET ME SET IT RIGHT." Did those banzai pilots grow on trees? Did the culture that viewed the rape of nanjing as acceptable pop into existence the moment it happened? No. The imperial government was born, raised, facilitated, and fueled by the Japanese people.
This isnt black and white morality, this is understanding that WW2 was a time of TOTAL war. Weak minded, irrelevant modern moral hangups dont apply. And that bomb youre crying over is what ended it.
Btw, active duty, so check your ad hominems and literary platitudes at the door.
Flawless victory...you win!
Absolutely.
Yep. Atomic bombing was our last resort to prevent invading Japan on one side while the Soviets took the other and turned the country into a half capitalist, half communist firebombed wasteland. Not something we should be celebrating.
It's one thing to recognize it was probably necessary, another to glorify the loss of life.
Not a fan of this post
Fuck around and find out.
Love this saying
FAFO
Are you glorifying mass killing with atomic weapons?
It's like spanking your kids when they are bad. Sure it needs to be done, it helps them learn, and grow. But do you glorify it? Are you fucking sick? WTF is wrong with you? Delete this shit.
Not great when the US is really good allies with Japan right now and they are one of the few conservative cultures outside of the USA that we have common ground with : /
Oh, shut the fuck up and take a joke.
It’s a triumphant display of American power when we were at our greatest glory. It’s great for morale.
Speak softly and carry a big stick. Let the event speak for itself.
Glorifying this event is no different than the left trying to use slavery to create animosity. Recognize the event - but don’t propagandize it.
This isn’t some warhammer larp bs. We erased >100k people in order to slam the door shut on the bloodiest war in history. It’s not glorious, it’s the US making the tough decision to put our foot down when we needed to in order to hopefully save millions. Bragging about one of the most brutal displays of force the US has ever had to show in order to prevent further death is cringe.
Solemn memorial is not celebration.
Memorializing the intrinsic terror of war - here, in its emblematic modern Moment - is a VACCINE against repeat.
So remember.
And stop being a cancel-pansy.
Pretty sure Japan is out of the picture on that story being repeated indefinitely.
Warfare has changed in today's timeline. We now face an ideology war. A war of the mind. A war of ideas. A war over control. Bombs don't work in this style.
Few cool facts about Nagasaki:
The residents assumed they were safe from attack because Nagasaki was home to the largest Catholic population west of America.
The site was chosen because of cloud cover over other targets that day
The Army wanted to hit a city which had no previous bomb damage so they could accurately gauge the damage
That's St. Maximillion Kolbe, put some 'spect on that name, 'pede!
Despite the massive death toll it is thought that the bombing of Nagasaki was the 3rd deadliest bombing in Japan during WWII, after the bombing of Hiroshima, and the overnight firebombing of Tokyo. According to Wikipedia (take it for what you will) of the potentially 80000 killed in Nagasaki, at least 150 were enemy combatants. As such roughly 99.8% of casualties were civilian.
And people are staying home for six months because of a disease so deadly that people have to be tested to know whether they've ever had it???
Should have bought a lottery ticket.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alistair_Urquhart
Don't forget this Highlander who was a POW for 3 years and was at Nagasaki. His book is hardcore.
Yea look up the book called The Forgotten Highlander. Also if you're interested in that subject also read Tears in the Darkness. That is a gruesome detailed story about the same thing the Highlander went through.
Much respect. War is terrible. He was witness to its near-ultimate. I'm glad his culture so well-reformed, and that he lived a long life.
It just wasn't meant to be for him. Fate has a certain way of working to make sure the inevitable occurs, and everything else takes a detour.
While a victory is great this day should be remembered somberly. This act saved many American's but the many innocent people that perished should be remembered as a sad fate of those met during hard times.
I do understand Japan did commit man war crimes before people downvote.
"Made in America. Tested in Japan."
This is what Barrak Obama wants to let the Mullahs of Iran build.
And he gave them cash to do it. Fucker
He knew they would.
Wish this wasn’t stickied - yes it had to be done but it’s a very sobering event. It’s not something to be proud of, and it’s not something we should regret, but simply a reminder that we have nuclear weapons so that we do NOT have to use them.
They fucked around, and they found out. They made an example of themselves.
Poor taste. Japan is our ally now and one of our best allies at that. All of the major bomb raids in Japan took a heavy civilian population
This should be a very Somber day. A day where overwhelming force seemed necessary to defeat a strong but small foe.
I know what you mean but some of us still have mixed feelings about it. The Meiji government was downright evil and most of the Japanese people were nothing more than slaves to it. They executed prisoners and hideously mutilated them (my uncle was one). But, remember that MacArthur's staff estimated that an invasion would have resulted in over a million casualties on our side alone so the atomic bombs actually saved lives.
I don't think anyone here is saying it shouldn't have happened given the situation, just that we shouldn't glorify it.
It used to be that way. Then for decades our leadership was "we'll gladly take it and ask for more." Now it's "We still love taking it but orange man is trying to stop it."
It wasn't wrong, it ended the war, but we shouldn't celebrate and glorify it. It was a horrible necessity.
In total war eveything is a target. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military centers and were even more valuable targets because of it. Dresden was similar, it was a rail hub where German troops stopped on the way to the front.
You act like wars have rules. Yes we follow some "rules" of war but even then the majority of the bullshit they try to pull is to gut our military. Example the EU tried getting us involved in a treaty to ban cluster bombs, we told them to fuck off. War is war, it's horrible and trying to make it nicer is futile and goes against the idea of winning. Chivalry is dead and this modern version of it needs to die too.
SIGH...You do know that one of the reasons Bin Laden attacked America was our support of and military occupation(bases) of enemies of his country right...?
watch at 50:50
You are missing the point.
Quite frankly, he was no fool considering what he had intended...
And how good did that do us...
War and the price of empire
Empire strikes out
Ten lost years
He may be dead, but his intention was fulfilled and continues to this day.
Countries that declare war destroy their own wealth and freedoms as happened in WWI and WWII...what has happened to this country is no different.
Nobody is glorifying war or the bomb.
I will never judge people of yesterday by my present. I just can't imagine being on Iwo Jima and having to use a flame thrower on living men to get the to surrender!. Can you? can you imagine being 22 years old and thinking what the hell am I doing here and why won't these guys just give up and give us this damn island? Can't they see the ships on the horizon??? How can we defeat these crazy people?
It's just not something we can sit at our keyboards and contemplate in the air condition. We don't have men dying and people depending on us to liberate them from occupation.
I think the person with the post wants to recognize that this happened and we now have an ally and partner in Peace.
Napalm was used in those. The results were sticky charcoal people.
Regardless cheering for this is wrong. Japan is ab ally. Has been since regranted independence In the 50s
Yeah they firebombed a lot of Japanese cities.
We didn't start this war.
A bittersweet event. But without a doubt the correct decision. And thank God we had leaders willing to make that decision.
Japan did not want to surrender. As our ships pulled in the Japanese military thought it was a trick to lure in the Americans. The war in the Pacific was brutal.
Remember, they refused to surrender after Hiroshima.
I will give you that Patton was right. WWII was ultimately the conflict between three major ideologies to decide the future of the human race. Democracy vs Facism vs Communism. Stomping out facism did the world a great service, but failing to stomp out communism let it infect a large portion of the world and cause great suffering.
50 years of Democrat control left Detroit in a worse place than Nagasaki and Hiroshima 50 years after a nuclear bomb.
They fucked around and found out
This is true. We need all the based allies we can get. I wish Japan should have killed more during their occupation in China. Looking at what China did recently made actions by Japan in WWII very very justified.
WTF! It's because of Japan that the communists were able to take power! Japan also caused a lot of terror in Asia.
So whose faults is it that Communist takes hold in America ? It's not Japan's faults, Communist ideology takes hold where there are retards and China was the perfect place for it whether Japan occupied it or not.
Is it Japanese faults that Cuba is a communist shit hole too ??
No Japan destabilize China to allow the communist to take hold. Japan also has a decent amount of communists themselves.
SO WHAT. Don’t up vote it then. This is America and I’ll post what ever I want. Start your own website for “I want to please everyone” cry me a River. Oh wait I forgot - I am offended “NOT”. Remember Don’t go away / Go away mad. Hahahahaha hahahahaha
First the weab makes tl;dr bitching about America Fuck Yeah!
Then calls other people triggered e-warriors
Cry some more in your ramen
Pot meet Kettle: you should calm down, stop shaking, and read your first comment.
Nope no tough guy here, retired and making fun at losers never gets old. Take a chill pill and relax. It is OK for you to be a liberal. I won’t tell. Hahahahaha
A necessary but indiscriminate massacre. This post is in poor taste.
We built it before the axis power. They would not have hesitated to use atomic bombs anywhere against the allies had they figured it out first. Especially if they were desperate to turn the war around in their favor. The axis were already committing massive scale war crimes and genocide. The atomic bombs were not even the most destructive bombing raids in WWII. That goes to the bombing of Tokyo, which was single most destructive bombing raid in human history. At least 100,000 civilians killed and 16 square miles destroyed. But because it was with "regular" bombs, nobody gives a shit. Cities were destroyed all over Europe in air raids. History is dirty.
But that's ironic to have Germany and Japan trying anyone for war crimes. Germany and England were nice to each other's POWs generally. Bets were off between them and Russia. I do agree with you if you don't think the atomic bombs should be glorified. Not a big fan of this sticky. I guess you could say it's a joke similar to talking shit against Britain because we beat them in the Revolution, even though we're allies since. But eh. This is darker.
The atomic bomb not only saved US lives, but also ended the war quickly. Before the USSR could mobilize and take over chnya.
This seems rather tasteless. What is the purpose of celebrating the atomic bombing of a city exactly, especially when Japan is now one of our closet allies?
In memory of having to tell Hirohito twice.
Gross
Yes, we absolutely needed to drop the bomb on Nagasaki. I just don't find any joy in celebrating it.
It probably saved my Grandfather who was on board a ship at New Orleans as part of the initial invasion force. That's good enough for me.
Don't joke about that. Let the war dead rest in peace.
Come on guys. Seriously this is not something to celebrate. Posting and upvoting stuff like this makes us look like psychopaths and will be used against us politically, and they won’t be wrong.
No mention of the thousands of AMERICAN CITIZENS we stripped of rights/homes and INTERRED inside the United States?
It's something the hyperwoke residents of King County Washington hate to have brought up...the entire area is built on former homesites and farms of Japanese Americans who lost their homes due to internment.
This post and pin is disappointing and Unamerican
Biggest election is in less than 90 days and we need to be more focused than ever so what does thedonald mods do? sticky a disgusting shitpost glorifying the slaughter odf 100,000s innocent civilians! What disturbs me is not the low effort post but a mod went out of his way to sticky this!
WTF has happened to this site? Also It Kinda ironic promoting sick jokes like this when Japan and PM Shinzo Abe is one of Trumps closest allies and biggest supporter.
man, i sure miss the /thedonald days and the run up to 2016 election. Seeing that this website is nothing more than a 4ch tier 'murcia shitpost not serious about getting Trump re-elected anymore i'm out
100% agree. It does more harm than good. And we have got an election to win.
The bombs were necessary but wtf is this post
God Bless America and God Damn our Enemies!
Does God look upon heaps of children Napalmed and nuked to death saying "yeahhh that"
The god you worship seems closer to Allah than the all loving Christian God.
This should be a somber day. A day when the genetic code of thousands of mostly civilians were scrambled
VENGEANCE IS MINE saith the Lord.
This is atomic levels of spice
Going to use this moment to remind everyone that it was a DEMOCRAT who put Japanese Americans in interment camps during WWII.
Just your daily reminder that the vast majority of racial atrocities have been historically committed by people with D in front of their names.
In the words of alex jones:
AMERICA FIRST!
While I agree that horrible measures are sometimes necessary in warfare, we shouldn't glorify those horrible measures. Remember that non-combatants, particularly women and children, were killed in that bombing.
The Left (and Hollywood) will tell you that to fight monsters you have to become monsters, but that is not true. You fight monsters by becoming a heroes. Heroes must sometimes kill, but they do it out of necessity, not out of self-satisfaction or glee.
Fucked around :)
Found out :(
We mourn the loss of innocent lives but are thankful for all the ones saved by ending the war. That’s what war is about. You don’t win a war by negotiating a stalemate. You win a war by destroying the enemy’s will to fight. You make the cost of continuing so high victory would be for nothing. Every enemy the US has defeated in such a way has never come back to be a threat again. The other wars were fought by politicians. They were never victories. And our enemies are still there, waiting for their next chance to attack us.
China has killed a lot more Americans than Japan.
We boiled German women and Children in the fucking river, but all poo bear Xi gets for his genocides is a hot meal and a handshake.
You can blame all DemonRats Presidents for that. Clownton cartels invited them in, Osama kissed their shoes and bent over to let them rape our nation.
Yeah Pompeo really ripped the fucker thoroughly during his speech.
Wow great trolling.
I actually have a friend from Nagasaki. Japanese people are wonderful, they just needed to be freed from the yolk of oppression. Japan is our biggest ally against China right now, we shouldn't be shitting on them.
Correct the headline. It should be reading Seattle or Portland. (After all Pedes have bugged out)
Wow, this is a badass desktop background. Thanks, dude!
No problem any time
yes. we shall WIN.
My father was in the fleet which was assembling to support the assault of Japan. It would have made D-Day seem like Spring Break in the Florida panhandle. Plus Japan was feverishly working to deliver a type of dirty atomic weapon to destroy the fleet offshore.
The two bombs dropped cost many Japanese lives, but likely no more than would have perished in defense against a full frontal attack, and saved many thousands of young Americans.
This is the day the Japanese really learned to respect the Americans.
The world became very peaceful for quite sometime.
I have always been obsessed with nuclear anything since I was a kid. Dunno why but it fascinates me.. we harnessed the power of the atom. Yet liberals stigmatize it as evil but it’s clean energy and MAD stop and prevented wars..
It’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for em. It did