It is a classic CIA CYA "limited hangout" to blow clouds of smoke as a coverup for what actually happened. He ain't a whistleblower, he's a smoke blower, so don't let him blow it up your skirt. Read, e.g.:
That's exactly what I was thinking when I was reading it earlier today. Somehow this dude recorded Halper saying crazy shit about Flynn going down 2 days before the story was leaked in media. He just happened to record it happening? And he just happened to be sitting on it for 3+ years?
The entire piece seems like throwing FBI (James Comey) under the bus so he can be the fall guy while everyone else skates free. Just like how Lindsey Graham and Sally Yates threw Comey under the bus by calling him rogue. If anyone thinks all this was possible without the CIA, they are being played.
His story might have truth but he's not telling this to expose what happened. He's saying it to cover his ass.
Halper was his thesis advisor and he routinely recorded him to get the thesis guidence on the record (with Halper's full knowledge). During one of their meetings Halper mentioned Flynn explicitly to discourage this guy from going over and to work for Flynn. You can listen to the recording in the original article - looks like archive doesn't save that only the text.
Even if this guy is not credible he is releasing a LOT of facts which merit further investigation.
To that end he released it through Matt Taibbi's blog. I don't know if you guys know Taibbi but he's a journalist formerly with Rolling Stone where he also hosted a podcast. Bernie voter. He has a pretty extensive history of journalism in post ussr collapse countries as well.
However, Taibbi has been consistently critical of the entire Russiagate saga. He was doing interviews back in 2016 talking about what a farce it was. He's also talked about how this view has shut him out from main stream outlets and channels. He's covered every development that russiagate dredged up from Carter Page and George Pap / Flynn to the Horowitz report + Mueller as wells as Schiff only declassifying house intel documents after Grennnell said he was gonna release them anyway.
I think Taibbi spent like 3 weeks vetting the story which he detailed in a post following Schrage's story being published on his site. I trust his commentary on russiagate tbh. Super critical of house dems especially Pelosi / Schiff.
Matt Taibbi is old school. He'll go after anything that smells of a decent story and be ruthless in his pursuit of it. He's from the left, but not entirely of it.
Ya, that's what I was trying to say but you put it more succinctly. I don't agree with most of his politics but rarely does he insert them into the material he covers. He also makes some great points about how our media unquestioningly accepted intelligence during the onset of Russiagate.
The one thing that bugs me though is the conclusion he comes to with Russiagate. Being that his fear is the dems just handed Trump an easy path to reelection as he will use Russiagate and the Ukraine impeachment as campaign material. But shows little concern that the U.S Government used the only secret court in the land to spy on and campaign against a political opponent. He's since come around to this more and even begun to call Russiagate worse than Watergate, which is good. But it bugged me for a while.
Yes I did listen to the audio, Maria played it too on her show. I just find it way too odd that he’s coming out with All this Massive info 3+ years later right when durham is Supposed to drop. He seems to have an explanation of every odd thing somehow.
His story has a lot of truth we have known for a while. I am just questioning his motive for coming out now. The timing is very odd. His entire piece had zero mentions of CIA or Brennan which makes it more of a frame comey and get everyone else out safe narrative they are all pushing now.
You know what I've found out over the years. "Having an answer for everything" usually means you're being genuine and truthful.
Just an observation, not a commentary on this guy at all.
If this is so good for them, it helps them so much, why isn't this guy on CNN, and on the front page of the NYT? Why is the only one interviewing him is Maria Bartiromo?
All it takes is one interview in today's age, and who's to say he won't do more. The interview was done in tandem with the piece, like a coordinated 1-2.
Are you fucking retarded? Where the fuck did I say FBI didn’t do anything? Read my comment before making up shit. I said they are throwing James Comey only under the bus to save the bigger players because Comey is hated by the democrats too.
I recognize your username btw, you are always saying stupid shit causing trouble.
Yes. u/Anaconda is fucking retarded lol. He’s early to just about every sticky post and tries to derail things by inserting stupid ass comments like the one you were replying to. I’m surprised he is still on here.
The article seemed self serving to me, too. He's not under oath at the moment, and when he testified before the Senate (?) he didn't offer any of this info. Out of loyalty to Halper? Maybe.
I'm still interested to hear what other info he may have and whether his story changes under oath.
I get a feeling that Carter Page was purposefully planted in the campaign by cia to be able to later use his known russian connections (dude was a cia informant) to claim that trump campaign was colluding with Russia. Also conveniently the lawyer Clinesmith changed the email to say Page didn’t have cia connections. All part of the plan
4 spies being planned and sent all around the world to meet and catch and report info from trump officials isn’t something the FBI can do by itself. CIA Brennan has to be involved.
He is trying to coverup his own role, that's expected. But he talks about Halper's cocaine use, he talks about how Halper got over 400k taxpayer money, how Halper spied on Trump advisers during an election.
He has recordings including one he already posted of Halper. In the recording Halper says how they are going to fuck Flynn which will be like a "beheading" of Trump's team.
He talks about the latest Flynn hearing on August 11.
Even if he is in full CYA mode the covering up is clearly not about Halper who is a central figure of the anti-Trump operation.
Any attention on Halper is an absolute plus, don't you think?
Well, no. Halper was long since a sacrificial goat in the CIA's limited hangout. There's really nothing new from this worm, other than a carefully selected and controlled snippet of tape that also says nothing. Of course it gives the tantalizing impression that Flynn was a poor victim of some hidden, unknown big bad meanies—but then, that does nothing but advance what has been The Official Story all along.
Don't be naive about how covert and evil those motherfuckers are.
Probably because Durham might finally be doing something and these idiots are scared? The entire piece seems like throwing FBI (James Comey) under the bus so he can be the fall guy while everyone else skates free. Just like how Lindsey Graham and Sally Yates threw Comey under the bus by calling him rogue. If anyone thinks all this was possible without the CIA, they are being played.
Muddy the swamp and you'll never get to the bottom for a good look: like going underground.
The CIA has come head to head with the redoubtable Trump, let's see what happens now; they've always been able to buy their way with susceptible and therefore gullible targets.
The CIA stock in trade is an evil laundry business; they launder dirty money world wide and dirty the character of their targets to ply their trade, then they dirty the water.......it's a dirty shame to the USA, get rid of the CIA - with the advent of computers we need geeks (like the old code breakers) to really know what's going on. The CIA was supposed to report on the enemy, not become the enemy at the beck and call of dirty politicians. Whoever has the best protection of their computers will win the next war - yes even a germ warfare war - no pun intended.
Is it any wonder at the bottom of the swamp is the Dirty with a capital D Bush Cartel NWO???
The posted story is Fake News, it is planted by Intel/Deepstate/Democrat/RINO/Uniparty to try to cover up wrong doing, by telling selected bits of the story.
The whistleblower has recordings of Halper and more info on Christopher Steele who wrote the fake smear dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign. Steele is a close friend of Halper so lot of new info coming out about their group.
Here is my takeaway after spending the past 30 minutes reading the story and this comment section:
I just wasted 30 minutes of my time and I have no way of telling if the article is true, or if it's the comments saying it's a distraction and this guy is trying to cover his ass while throwing Comey under the bus.
With something of this magnitude, with this level of power having been abused, shouldn’t they have complete access to all NSA records? Which would include every god damn whisper from across the room? I don’t understand why there even needs to be questioning when there’s enough physical evidence to prove wrong doings, why aren’t they simply pulling all NSA data to fill in the details?
He is the co-author of the bestselling book America Alone: The Neo-Conservatives and the Global Order, published by the Cambridge University Press in 2004, and also co-author of The Silence of the Rational Center: Why American Foreign Policy is Failing (2007). In April 2010, his book The Beijing Consensus: Legitimizing Authoritarianism in Our Time
“In these discussions I stressed that Flynn was indispensable. He was perhaps the only campaign advisor who both had Trump’s personal trust and the deep intelligence experience necessary to expose hidden problems in the intelligence community.”
Comey already has his getaway setup. He posts pictures of sunrise, sunset, waterfall etc on Twitter as his way of communicating to his buddies without being surveilled.
After reading this fully, the author does a good job of making the whole thing seem like a bumbling mess of 4 low level “spies” who just happened to do what Obama and Biden wanted done.
Even if every word he says is true, there’s nothing in there about intent. Why would they have done this? Who would have paid $450k to a semi retired spook in Cambridge? What did they gain?
It seems like the unanswered questions are more important than the fact that a “walrus” played a key role in undermining a president for a full term
It is a classic CIA CYA "limited hangout" to blow clouds of smoke as a coverup for what actually happened. He ain't a whistleblower, he's a smoke blower, so don't let him blow it up your skirt. Read, e.g.:
Sunday Talks: Steven Schrage Appears to Discuss His Role in “Spygate”… https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/09/sunday-talks-steven-schrage-appears-to-discuss-his-role-in-spygate/
That's exactly what I was thinking when I was reading it earlier today. Somehow this dude recorded Halper saying crazy shit about Flynn going down 2 days before the story was leaked in media. He just happened to record it happening? And he just happened to be sitting on it for 3+ years?
The entire piece seems like throwing FBI (James Comey) under the bus so he can be the fall guy while everyone else skates free. Just like how Lindsey Graham and Sally Yates threw Comey under the bus by calling him rogue. If anyone thinks all this was possible without the CIA, they are being played.
His story might have truth but he's not telling this to expose what happened. He's saying it to cover his ass.
Halper was his thesis advisor and he routinely recorded him to get the thesis guidence on the record (with Halper's full knowledge). During one of their meetings Halper mentioned Flynn explicitly to discourage this guy from going over and to work for Flynn. You can listen to the recording in the original article - looks like archive doesn't save that only the text.
Even if this guy is not credible he is releasing a LOT of facts which merit further investigation.
To that end he released it through Matt Taibbi's blog. I don't know if you guys know Taibbi but he's a journalist formerly with Rolling Stone where he also hosted a podcast. Bernie voter. He has a pretty extensive history of journalism in post ussr collapse countries as well.
However, Taibbi has been consistently critical of the entire Russiagate saga. He was doing interviews back in 2016 talking about what a farce it was. He's also talked about how this view has shut him out from main stream outlets and channels. He's covered every development that russiagate dredged up from Carter Page and George Pap / Flynn to the Horowitz report + Mueller as wells as Schiff only declassifying house intel documents after Grennnell said he was gonna release them anyway.
I think Taibbi spent like 3 weeks vetting the story which he detailed in a post following Schrage's story being published on his site. I trust his commentary on russiagate tbh. Super critical of house dems especially Pelosi / Schiff.
Matt Taibbi is old school. He'll go after anything that smells of a decent story and be ruthless in his pursuit of it. He's from the left, but not entirely of it.
His description of Goldman Sachs as "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money and the article it came from gives you an idea of where he's coming from.
He's not got full TDS.
Ya, that's what I was trying to say but you put it more succinctly. I don't agree with most of his politics but rarely does he insert them into the material he covers. He also makes some great points about how our media unquestioningly accepted intelligence during the onset of Russiagate.
The one thing that bugs me though is the conclusion he comes to with Russiagate. Being that his fear is the dems just handed Trump an easy path to reelection as he will use Russiagate and the Ukraine impeachment as campaign material. But shows little concern that the U.S Government used the only secret court in the land to spy on and campaign against a political opponent. He's since come around to this more and even begun to call Russiagate worse than Watergate, which is good. But it bugged me for a while.
Yes I did listen to the audio, Maria played it too on her show. I just find it way too odd that he’s coming out with All this Massive info 3+ years later right when durham is Supposed to drop. He seems to have an explanation of every odd thing somehow.
His story has a lot of truth we have known for a while. I am just questioning his motive for coming out now. The timing is very odd. His entire piece had zero mentions of CIA or Brennan which makes it more of a frame comey and get everyone else out safe narrative they are all pushing now.
You know what I've found out over the years. "Having an answer for everything" usually means you're being genuine and truthful. Just an observation, not a commentary on this guy at all.
Yay! More investigations! /s
If this is so good for them, it helps them so much, why isn't this guy on CNN, and on the front page of the NYT? Why is the only one interviewing him is Maria Bartiromo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O1Nxx0TQWE
Would you rather not have this info?
All it takes is one interview in today's age, and who's to say he won't do more. The interview was done in tandem with the piece, like a coordinated 1-2.
Are you fucking retarded? Where the fuck did I say FBI didn’t do anything? Read my comment before making up shit. I said they are throwing James Comey only under the bus to save the bigger players because Comey is hated by the democrats too.
I recognize your username btw, you are always saying stupid shit causing trouble.
Anaconda is one we ignore round here.
Yes. u/Anaconda is fucking retarded lol. He’s early to just about every sticky post and tries to derail things by inserting stupid ass comments like the one you were replying to. I’m surprised he is still on here.
I never said that. You clearly can’t read or are purposefully planting words.
Go away you snake in the grass.
The article seemed self serving to me, too. He's not under oath at the moment, and when he testified before the Senate (?) he didn't offer any of this info. Out of loyalty to Halper? Maybe.
I'm still interested to hear what other info he may have and whether his story changes under oath.
Sundance over at CTH thinks this guy is CYA too.
You are fucking retarded who can’t seem to understand basic English and put word in people’s mouth.
Your username is quite recognizable for always saying stupid fucking shit.
I get a feeling that Carter Page was purposefully planted in the campaign by cia to be able to later use his known russian connections (dude was a cia informant) to claim that trump campaign was colluding with Russia. Also conveniently the lawyer Clinesmith changed the email to say Page didn’t have cia connections. All part of the plan
4 spies being planned and sent all around the world to meet and catch and report info from trump officials isn’t something the FBI can do by itself. CIA Brennan has to be involved.
He is trying to coverup his own role, that's expected. But he talks about Halper's cocaine use, he talks about how Halper got over 400k taxpayer money, how Halper spied on Trump advisers during an election.
He has recordings including one he already posted of Halper. In the recording Halper says how they are going to fuck Flynn which will be like a "beheading" of Trump's team.
He talks about the latest Flynn hearing on August 11.
Even if he is in full CYA mode the covering up is clearly not about Halper who is a central figure of the anti-Trump operation.
Any attention on Halper is an absolute plus, don't you think?
He claims he has been trying to get in contact with Durham.
In this interview he claims he spoke to Durham weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O1Nxx0TQWE
Well, no. Halper was long since a sacrificial goat in the CIA's limited hangout. There's really nothing new from this worm, other than a carefully selected and controlled snippet of tape that also says nothing. Of course it gives the tantalizing impression that Flynn was a poor victim of some hidden, unknown big bad meanies—but then, that does nothing but advance what has been The Official Story all along.
Don't be naive about how covert and evil those motherfuckers are.
Exactly. He's talking as if Page getting set up by Halper was an absurd comedy of errors.
We already knew this was the plan didn't you hear Barrs testimony?
Cunt- "Will you commit to not releasing the results of Durham until after the election?"
Barr- "NO."
Cunt- incoherent screeching
True enough. It's not the only indicator, heads have been turning for a while now. Solomon has made this clear.
Not sure how to feel ab Halper now. This one could be a crook w an agenda still like you said
Why would any of them whistleblow when there is literally no punishment or threat of punishment for the wrong doers?
Exactly. Take this with a grain of salt.
Probably because Durham might finally be doing something and these idiots are scared? The entire piece seems like throwing FBI (James Comey) under the bus so he can be the fall guy while everyone else skates free. Just like how Lindsey Graham and Sally Yates threw Comey under the bus by calling him rogue. If anyone thinks all this was possible without the CIA, they are being played.
Muddy the swamp and you'll never get to the bottom for a good look: like going underground.
The CIA has come head to head with the redoubtable Trump, let's see what happens now; they've always been able to buy their way with susceptible and therefore gullible targets.
The CIA stock in trade is an evil laundry business; they launder dirty money world wide and dirty the character of their targets to ply their trade, then they dirty the water.......it's a dirty shame to the USA, get rid of the CIA - with the advent of computers we need geeks (like the old code breakers) to really know what's going on. The CIA was supposed to report on the enemy, not become the enemy at the beck and call of dirty politicians. Whoever has the best protection of their computers will win the next war - yes even a germ warfare war - no pun intended.
Is it any wonder at the bottom of the swamp is the Dirty with a capital D Bush Cartel NWO???
The posted story is Fake News, it is planted by Intel/Deepstate/Democrat/RINO/Uniparty to try to cover up wrong doing, by telling selected bits of the story.
🤔
Sitting on this story
Waiting for bus to come
Comey's going under
Stupid, bloody public
Now they're going to hear all about The Cambridge Four
I am the spook man
They are the spook men
He is the Walrus
Rube, rube-a-rube
I am predicting James Comey will do down as everyone's sacrificial lamb.
The whistleblower has recordings of Halper and more info on Christopher Steele who wrote the fake smear dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign. Steele is a close friend of Halper so lot of new info coming out about their group.
Can someone please do a TLDR; summary lol
This
Here is my takeaway after spending the past 30 minutes reading the story and this comment section:
I just wasted 30 minutes of my time and I have no way of telling if the article is true, or if it's the comments saying it's a distraction and this guy is trying to cover his ass while throwing Comey under the bus.
Yawn. When I see someone go to jail, I'll start paying attention to Obamagate again. Same shit over and over.
With something of this magnitude, with this level of power having been abused, shouldn’t they have complete access to all NSA records? Which would include every god damn whisper from across the room? I don’t understand why there even needs to be questioning when there’s enough physical evidence to prove wrong doings, why aren’t they simply pulling all NSA data to fill in the details?
Read this it explains what the posted article is.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/09/sunday-talks-steven-schrage-appears-to-discuss-his-role-in-spygate/
Hang everyone involved in doing this to our country.
Stefan Helper
How do you feel about this?
Cleanup on aisle 4....
Don't believe it.
If there's going to be a serious move made towards justice, it has got to be made very soon or never.
Tick-Tock = Ding-Dong.
“In these discussions I stressed that Flynn was indispensable. He was perhaps the only campaign advisor who both had Trump’s personal trust and the deep intelligence experience necessary to expose hidden problems in the intelligence community.”
I always wondered why the went after Flynn.
Interview with the same guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O1Nxx0TQWE
Maria Bartiromo
They also play the Halper recording as well which the archive didn't catch
Comey already has his getaway setup. He posts pictures of sunrise, sunset, waterfall etc on Twitter as his way of communicating to his buddies without being surveilled.
I sure hope that this process is time consuming to get the job done right because if not we are fucked in getting any kind of justice.
After reading this fully, the author does a good job of making the whole thing seem like a bumbling mess of 4 low level “spies” who just happened to do what Obama and Biden wanted done.
Even if every word he says is true, there’s nothing in there about intent. Why would they have done this? Who would have paid $450k to a semi retired spook in Cambridge? What did they gain?
It seems like the unanswered questions are more important than the fact that a “walrus” played a key role in undermining a president for a full term
Hope this guy got a kill switch, because he about to get Epsteined
This guy is a snake oil salesman. 3 years later
All I hear when I read nonsense like this is Sean hannity “TICK TOCK”
It’s all bullshit and nothing will ever come from it.
Is this why they are wheeling out Michael Cohen for interviews again?
Rats begat rats begat rats.
Schrage is there to keep you guys from looking at British Arvinder Sambei’s role in the overthrow attempt of Trump. https://truthbits.blog/2020/08/09/steven-p-schrage-propaganda-to-protect-the-queen/