How long had the predecessor been there? Do these people not know that time served is directly related to your pay? If the last chief was there 20 yrs, and retires at 200k, the new chief doesn't start out at fucking 200k!!
You're missing the point. They demanded that the police be defunded. Cutting the funding cut a black woman's salary, now their pussies hurt over the obvious racism and sexism that caused her salary to be cut.
demanded that the police be defunded. Cutting the funding cut a black woman's salary
This is the same whining that has been going on in the Northwest for decades.
The enviro-wackos destroyed the logging / timber industry and then complain there are no living wage jobs (logging and mill work had plenty). AND they bitch about paying entry fees into parks (previously paid for by timber fees).
The enviro-wackos destroyed the logging / timber industry and then complain there are no living wage jobs (logging and mill work had plenty).
Whole counties died along with Canada undercutting everyone through NAFTA. Right during the recession too. Central Oregon was hollowed out and everyone was forced to move to Portland/Salem to enjoy those lovely high housing prices and low wages. OH SHIT WHERE DID ALL THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE COME FROM?!
This is actually a great example of why illegal immigration is so insidious. In places like LA the cities have waaay more people than tax base. Those people do not contribute at all to anything other than sales tax and even then they loot that shit with relatives and others that allow undercut prices because a lot of it is black market. Not to mention the amounts of people per household. It’s illegal to have a one bedroom apartment with 12 people living in it. Not if you’re illegal though. Cities in LA are completely destroyed by an absent tax base and a large population of leaches. I guess reality is racist.
Then they bitch when the forest burns down because there aren't any logging companies clearing out overgrowth, creating fire breaks or doing fire prevention management.
In a private sector union, the union leadership negotiates with managers, owners or their representatives, usually lawyers. The union employees usually argue for higher wages, either by increasing the wages of more experienced employees or providing more benefits to employees. Managers and owners traditionally argue against wage and benefits increases because it costs them more money and decreases the amount of money they can reinvest into the company or pay higher level executives, administrators, owners etc. Both sides are fighting over the same pool of money and both have an interest in increasing the pool of money by selling a product or service.
In a public sector union, the union leadership doesn't negotiate with managers and owners but rather, theoretically, with elected officials that represent the taxpayer. Teachers unions negotiate with school boards. Municipal law enforcement negotiates with the city council. Often, elected leaders such as school boards and city councils hand off this responsibility to administrators WITHIN the department. For instance, school boards put the superintendent and the school's human resource workers in charge of negotiations. City councils put the city administrator or the Chief of police in the role of negotiation with the union.
Do you notice a problem here? You should if you understand why unions exist. Unions exist to stop the management and owners from taking all the profits and not "sharing" the profits with the employees in terms of wage increase. They are fighting over the same pool of money. They both have an interest in keeping the business alive and well to get more money in the pool. This isn't true of an elected official and definitely not true of a city administrator or superintendent. In fact, the city administrator or superintendent has the EXACT OPPOSITE MOTIVE. They are not negotiating AGAINST the union but WITH the unions because if they can get the Union employees more money, the administrators (police chiefs, superintendents, school administrators, law enforcement that is considered management) can also increase the amount of money they get. The elected representatives don't want to tick off the administrators because they want a "nice" relationship - ever see how vicious things can get when a school board fights a superintendent or a mayor fights a police chief? It's not good for re-election thus elected representatives don't want the fight and so don't represent the taxpayers interests.
yet, the taxpayer is the provider of the pool of money both the government union employees and the government administrators are fighting over. So what government workers, whether union or management or administration do, is instead, fight for higher taxes. The more they can tax, the bigger the pool of money is. the bigger the pool of money is, the more they can take for themselves.
Every single time you vote to increase teacher's wages and benefits, remember the school district's staff, administrators and superintendents are going to ask for at least double the increase the teachers get. Every time you argue the average police officer needs more equipment, you are going to pay an administrator to become an "expert" on that equipment and also up the salary of any administrator that has anything to do with that equipment.
If you give a teacher a 3% raise for having two more years of experience (steps), also a 3% raise for getting more education in something like sensitive classrooms for LGBTQIA++ (ladders) and on top of that a raise because the cost of living goes up...about 3% as well and another 2% in more benefits because healthcare went up and another two days off for teacher training (which the vast vast majority of teachers never, ever attend. It's considered punishment for naughty teacher to have to go get trained.) you're up to a 20% raise per year for teachers. The administration fires back to the school board or to the city council if we're talking police departments, hey, you gave the low level employees underneath me a 10% raise, I should get a 12% raise, the city council or school board is powerless to say no. Thus the taxpayers get screwed.
Even during the housing bubble burst and Obama's "new normal 1% annual growth economy" when private sectors employees were losing jobs, taking pay cuts, losing benefits, cutting all the frills out, GOVERNMENT UNION EMPLOYEES STILL AVERAGED OVER 6% ANNUAL SALARY INCREASES!!!!!!! In fact, the only area in the entire country in which wages rose and the micro capital gains went up, was the suburbs around D.C. and Silicon Valley. Everywhere else in the country we were losing money, except for Government employees from the lowliest janitor to the Chief of Police to the City Planner with no experience.
Government unions also have full time union representation. Private sector unions are usually represented by a colleague that already works 40 hours a week and is expected to put in extra work to be a union rep. Government unions also have full time lawyers. Private sector unions have to go out and find legal representation.
Government unions collude with each other, administrators and elected representatives to steal as much in taxes as they possibly can for themselves. Every time there's a tax increase at the city, state or federal government, every union government worker, licks their lips and plots how they can take their bite out of the "new" money. That never happens in private sector unless a business is so poorly run it dooms itself. Everytime you think you're approving a tax for street maintenance, school facility improvements, the arts.....most of that money will be eaten by government unions demanding their piece.
TLDR: It is impossible that an administrator will ever be hired to replace an administrator at a lower salary ever. To do so, would cause the whole union house of cards to fall and all the way down the line to the janitor the union will scream that they're being overworked and underpaid. They're lying. They are overpaid and underworked and far, far less productive than the Americans who work in the private sector.
What happened to everyone making the same amount? 172k a year is a lot more than the average American makes. Shouldn't a police chief be paid the same amount as a garbage man? She should actually be paid much less.
My captain in Sadr City who effectively locked down a city only made $60,000 a year. He also had less people under his command. So I guess I don't get why they pay so much?
I suppose it did help that my commander had tanks and he did put them in line multiple times and barage parts of the city into oblivion.
As a motivator the empty space left beyond by the destruction of one target is as quickly filled by a new target for destruction. You can always slice off a new out-group.
Hey we are just setting the example with the new normal if defunding the police! The chief should set the example and take lower pay first and also donate their pay to BLM while kneeling to the black panther
That's the point. The lower levels are all oblivious to the fact that they have been manipulated. The goal is to maximize cognitive dissonance so that people cannot break from their confusion
Get ready for it! You know what's coming; the big "EXCEPT". We are going to make an exception for black police officers, as well as probably all other "people of colour". giving them the normal amount of money, and reducing the wages of all white officers.
So many questions: How long had her white predecessor been in the same position? Has she ever had experience as a police chief before? If so, for how long? Did she accept her salary or was she forced to do so at gunpoint?
How long had the predecessor been there? Do these people not know that time served is directly related to your pay? If the last chief was there 20 yrs, and retires at 200k, the new chief doesn't start out at fucking 200k!!
You're missing the point. They demanded that the police be defunded. Cutting the funding cut a black woman's salary, now their pussies hurt over the obvious racism and sexism that caused her salary to be cut.
This is the same whining that has been going on in the Northwest for decades.
The enviro-wackos destroyed the logging / timber industry and then complain there are no living wage jobs (logging and mill work had plenty). AND they bitch about paying entry fees into parks (previously paid for by timber fees).
Whole counties died along with Canada undercutting everyone through NAFTA. Right during the recession too. Central Oregon was hollowed out and everyone was forced to move to Portland/Salem to enjoy those lovely high housing prices and low wages. OH SHIT WHERE DID ALL THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE COME FROM?!
Yes. Leadership is that dumb.
My favorite is the ever-popular "WHY DOES EVERYONE IN GRANTS PASS FEEL THE NEED TO CARRY A GUN!?"
(Nevermind that w/ no timber industry there anymore, the Josephine County Sheriff's Department literally was defunded...)
This is actually a great example of why illegal immigration is so insidious. In places like LA the cities have waaay more people than tax base. Those people do not contribute at all to anything other than sales tax and even then they loot that shit with relatives and others that allow undercut prices because a lot of it is black market. Not to mention the amounts of people per household. It’s illegal to have a one bedroom apartment with 12 people living in it. Not if you’re illegal though. Cities in LA are completely destroyed by an absent tax base and a large population of leaches. I guess reality is racist.
Then they bitch when the forest burns down because there aren't any logging companies clearing out overgrowth, creating fire breaks or doing fire prevention management.
Every leftist tantrum always comes down to this
Think about it. All of their victories have only made their lives worse and now they blame us for that too.
"Don't mansplain! YOU ARE PAYING LESS BECAUSE SHE HAS BREASTS REEEEEE!"
Woah there- don't assume xir needs lady parts to be female. Bigot.
This is how government unions operate.
Bear with me here.
In a private sector union, the union leadership negotiates with managers, owners or their representatives, usually lawyers. The union employees usually argue for higher wages, either by increasing the wages of more experienced employees or providing more benefits to employees. Managers and owners traditionally argue against wage and benefits increases because it costs them more money and decreases the amount of money they can reinvest into the company or pay higher level executives, administrators, owners etc. Both sides are fighting over the same pool of money and both have an interest in increasing the pool of money by selling a product or service.
In a public sector union, the union leadership doesn't negotiate with managers and owners but rather, theoretically, with elected officials that represent the taxpayer. Teachers unions negotiate with school boards. Municipal law enforcement negotiates with the city council. Often, elected leaders such as school boards and city councils hand off this responsibility to administrators WITHIN the department. For instance, school boards put the superintendent and the school's human resource workers in charge of negotiations. City councils put the city administrator or the Chief of police in the role of negotiation with the union.
Do you notice a problem here? You should if you understand why unions exist. Unions exist to stop the management and owners from taking all the profits and not "sharing" the profits with the employees in terms of wage increase. They are fighting over the same pool of money. They both have an interest in keeping the business alive and well to get more money in the pool. This isn't true of an elected official and definitely not true of a city administrator or superintendent. In fact, the city administrator or superintendent has the EXACT OPPOSITE MOTIVE. They are not negotiating AGAINST the union but WITH the unions because if they can get the Union employees more money, the administrators (police chiefs, superintendents, school administrators, law enforcement that is considered management) can also increase the amount of money they get. The elected representatives don't want to tick off the administrators because they want a "nice" relationship - ever see how vicious things can get when a school board fights a superintendent or a mayor fights a police chief? It's not good for re-election thus elected representatives don't want the fight and so don't represent the taxpayers interests.
yet, the taxpayer is the provider of the pool of money both the government union employees and the government administrators are fighting over. So what government workers, whether union or management or administration do, is instead, fight for higher taxes. The more they can tax, the bigger the pool of money is. the bigger the pool of money is, the more they can take for themselves.
Every single time you vote to increase teacher's wages and benefits, remember the school district's staff, administrators and superintendents are going to ask for at least double the increase the teachers get. Every time you argue the average police officer needs more equipment, you are going to pay an administrator to become an "expert" on that equipment and also up the salary of any administrator that has anything to do with that equipment.
If you give a teacher a 3% raise for having two more years of experience (steps), also a 3% raise for getting more education in something like sensitive classrooms for LGBTQIA++ (ladders) and on top of that a raise because the cost of living goes up...about 3% as well and another 2% in more benefits because healthcare went up and another two days off for teacher training (which the vast vast majority of teachers never, ever attend. It's considered punishment for naughty teacher to have to go get trained.) you're up to a 20% raise per year for teachers. The administration fires back to the school board or to the city council if we're talking police departments, hey, you gave the low level employees underneath me a 10% raise, I should get a 12% raise, the city council or school board is powerless to say no. Thus the taxpayers get screwed.
Even during the housing bubble burst and Obama's "new normal 1% annual growth economy" when private sectors employees were losing jobs, taking pay cuts, losing benefits, cutting all the frills out, GOVERNMENT UNION EMPLOYEES STILL AVERAGED OVER 6% ANNUAL SALARY INCREASES!!!!!!! In fact, the only area in the entire country in which wages rose and the micro capital gains went up, was the suburbs around D.C. and Silicon Valley. Everywhere else in the country we were losing money, except for Government employees from the lowliest janitor to the Chief of Police to the City Planner with no experience.
Government unions also have full time union representation. Private sector unions are usually represented by a colleague that already works 40 hours a week and is expected to put in extra work to be a union rep. Government unions also have full time lawyers. Private sector unions have to go out and find legal representation.
Government unions collude with each other, administrators and elected representatives to steal as much in taxes as they possibly can for themselves. Every time there's a tax increase at the city, state or federal government, every union government worker, licks their lips and plots how they can take their bite out of the "new" money. That never happens in private sector unless a business is so poorly run it dooms itself. Everytime you think you're approving a tax for street maintenance, school facility improvements, the arts.....most of that money will be eaten by government unions demanding their piece.
TLDR: It is impossible that an administrator will ever be hired to replace an administrator at a lower salary ever. To do so, would cause the whole union house of cards to fall and all the way down the line to the janitor the union will scream that they're being overworked and underpaid. They're lying. They are overpaid and underworked and far, far less productive than the Americans who work in the private sector.
I appreciate your effort here. Just wanting to let you know I read it, too.
Thank you. I never expect anyone reads my dribble but its nice to know every once in a while someone took the time. Very generous of you!
Even the left's hero, FDR, was against public sector unions.
Yep. It empowers the bureaucrat, not the voter. It costs the taxpayer, not the elected representative.
Impressive length! Thank you for this info.
This is very well laid out. Saved for future arguments!
Very interesting perspective.
Apparently she was making as much/more than her predecessor before liberals cut her pay.
THE CIRCLE OF WOKE!
Many still dont seem to grasp that Twitter is like 80% shills and bots...
White Liberals: DEFUND THE POLICE!!! Black Lives Matter!!!
Dems in Charge: Ok police defunded. The Black Chief of Police now makes 100k less.
White Liberals: RACISTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
/surprised Pikachu face
WHY IN THE ACTUAL FUCK IS A PUBLIC SERVANT MAKING $283K?
lol
They always bite the hand that feeds them
GIVE ME A BREAK.
Except its ok to shoot and maim black officers.
so government defunding police is bad now?
Time to punish Target & Wendy's again & block traffic until she has a raise?
Imagine complaining about making 172k a year
Holy shit, $285,000 a year sounds way to high. Meanwhile the average cop on her squad is way underpaid. Hmmm....
This is what defunding is Katie, you ignorant slut.
We gave them a black president. Even that wasn't enough.
Even when he was the shittiest president ever we still gave him a do over and he fucked that up too.
Heheh. There's no "we" there. I didn't vote for that idiot either time, and I'm pretty sure you didn't either. :)
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What happened to their wanting to defund the police?
What happened to everyone making the same amount? 172k a year is a lot more than the average American makes. Shouldn't a police chief be paid the same amount as a garbage man? She should actually be paid much less.
Equity!
Can't have it both ways. Either defund the police or don't. These people want to have their cake and eat it too.
My captain in Sadr City who effectively locked down a city only made $60,000 a year. He also had less people under his command. So I guess I don't get why they pay so much?
I suppose it did help that my commander had tanks and he did put them in line multiple times and barage parts of the city into oblivion.
How the fuck did they expect this would go when they defund the police???
WHITE MAN ALWAYS BAD!
Defund the police! Abolish the police! "OMG! THIS BLACK FEMALE COP ISN'T GETTING PAID ENOUGH! REEEE!"
These people are miserable. They live in a constant state of outrage.
I hate the word equity. It’s their replacement for equality and is absolutely horseshit
Resentment is the engine of atrocity.
As a motivator the empty space left beyond by the destruction of one target is as quickly filled by a new target for destruction. You can always slice off a new out-group.
The democrats cut her salary. I know, I know... orangemanbad.
Perpetual victimhood.
Lulz.
WTF That is WAY too much for some city employee to be making. Fuck these liberal assholes.
I’m sure this will work out perfectly as the salaries get cut.
What part of "defunding the police" do they not understand?
At least she's keeping her job. How many rank and file officers will be out of work entirely?
Hey we are just setting the example with the new normal if defunding the police! The chief should set the example and take lower pay first and also donate their pay to BLM while kneeling to the black panther
That's the point. The lower levels are all oblivious to the fact that they have been manipulated. The goal is to maximize cognitive dissonance so that people cannot break from their confusion
But they wanted to defund the police, didn't they?
She's apparently resigned.
Uh defund the police right?
Maybe because you all rioted to defund the police...
You’re trying to defund them, knucklehead
Get ready for it! You know what's coming; the big "EXCEPT". We are going to make an exception for black police officers, as well as probably all other "people of colour". giving them the normal amount of money, and reducing the wages of all white officers.
A black woman will now make 3/5 of her previous salary. Racist dog whistle?
Liberalism’s absurdity on full display.
Honk
“So much for equity” ???
Liberals shoot themselves in the face and then complain that they got shot in the face.
So many questions: How long had her white predecessor been in the same position? Has she ever had experience as a police chief before? If so, for how long? Did she accept her salary or was she forced to do so at gunpoint?
Link the tweet please
No she won't, cuz she is resigning.