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Far-right finds new online home in TheDonald.win
Pro-Trump meme website gains popularity as critics express concern over its role in the spread of hateful content
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The far-right has its own social media spaces, including the forum TheDonald.win, which originated in Reddit
Siddharth Venkataramakrishnan in London 2 HOURS AGO
As Facebook, Twitter and Reddit step up their efforts to flush out extremists ahead of the US election, the successor to a banned Reddit page is emerging as a magnet for extreme discourse.
TheDonald.win, which hosts a range of rightwing memes and bills itself as “a never-ending rally dedicated to the 45th President of the United States”, was first set up as a back-up space for Reddit’s controversial subreddit The_Donald.
But after its parent was banned in June, it became the community’s main hub, with traffic to the site increasing from about 750,000 monthly views in February to more than 5.8m in July, according to SimilarWeb data.
While still relatively small, experts said TheDonald.win is playing an increasingly important role in disseminating hateful content that then leaks into the mainstream.
“A lot of times, [far-right websites] are viewed as not successful because their numbers are not equivalent to YouTube or Reddit,” said Angelo Carusone, president and chief executive of the liberal-leaning non-profit Media Matters for America. “That’s not the only metric: we have to ask about the energy of the community.”
TheDonald.win owes its success in part to its Reddit-like interface, which has made it a natural landing point for the displaced community of r/The_Donald. Meanwhile, with lighter content moderation than more mainstream platforms, users are afforded a greater degree of freedom in what they can post.
“Where TheDonald.win did really well is to replicate the functionality of Reddit and also created a place where the community could transfer itself over to,” said Mr Carusone. “In a lot of ways it’s a more distilled and refined version of their community, free of safeguards.”
Before its ban, The_Donald had amassed more than 729,000 followers — many of whom have since migrated to its successor, said Joe Ondrak, a senior researcher at counter-misinformation organisation Logically. “It was essentially like moving house for them.”
The_Donald had long been a source of controversy for Reddit. A 2018 report from the Southern Poverty Law Center said the site hosted a combination of racism, conspiracy theories and violent narratives against political opponents. Last year, the platform “quarantined” — added warning labels to — the forum after some posts encouraged violence towards police officers in Oregon.
The layout of TheDonald.win will be familiar to Reddit users, albeit with a header featuring Mr Trump — who is often referred to on the site as “God-Emperor of the United States” — and a bald eagle.
The site continues its predecessor’s emphasis on circulating memes, both as a tool to rally supporters and infuriate opponents. Popular examples last week include a Photoshopped image of US politician Ilhan Omar, falsely portraying her as a terrorist, and a number of memes mocking George Floyd’s death.
Former Chilean dictator Augustus Pinochet is also a popular subject. The most popular post referring to him, posted in April, is simply titled: “No quarter for communists. Pinochet did nothing wrong.” Other posts cite “free helicopter rides” — a reference to the killing of political opponents by throwing them from an aircraft.
Mr Carusone argued that TheDonald.win will continue to attract attention even if Mr Trump is unsuccessful in the election. “[Mr Trump] represents a style of engaging in politics as well as an ideology of ‘might makes right’ with a bit of [talk about] white genocide and a conspiratorial twist — that’s something people can organise around,” he said.
In response to a request for comment, a moderator from TheDonald.win sent a link to a statement in Russian which concluded: “If the promotion of the expulsion of Communists from our country is considered far-right discourse, then yes, we are supporters.”
The rise of TheDonald.win comes as other spaces formerly used by the far-right have faced disruption. The notorious imageboard 8chan has struggled to recreate the same level of engagement since it was shut last year, according to Mr Carusone.
Mr Ondrak said its successor 8kun is also facing an identity crisis between younger ethno-nationalists and an older generation of QAnon supporters who have opposing stances over Israel and Mr Trump himself.
That challenge has driven some far-right groups to existing platforms as well. Kristina Gildejeva, a disinformation researcher at Logically, said she had seen increasingly organised white nationalist operations on chat app Telegram.
While Telegram has been a key tool for protesters around the world, Ms Gildejeva said that she had seen far-right groups increasingly using it to co-ordinate their posts in order to amplify their reach.
Telegram did not respond to a request for comment.
Researchers and academics are also concerned about the influence these platforms may have on mainstream social media sites ahead of the 2020 election. “I don’t think it’s those really extreme people who carry the election,” said Samantha North, a freelance disinformation investigator. “It’s when these narratives filter through to the mainstream and reach ordinary voters and push them towards voting for [Mr] Trump through conspiracy theories.”
One post from TheDonald.win — calling for the implementation of a potentially restrictive type of voter identity system that many on the left argue is discriminatory — received 7,000 interactions when it was posted on an unofficial fan page on Facebook for former White House press secretary Sarah Sanders, including more than 4,000 shares.
According to CrowdTangle, which analyses the spread of content on the web, posts from TheDonald.win have been interacted with more than 45,000 times on Facebook.
Ms North emphasised that these metrics did not account for private, local groups, which she said were a key vector for the spread of far-right ideas and conspiracy theories and which were far harder for researchers to discover.
“It’s shocking to find Bill Gates vaccine conspiracy theories posted in these village groups.”
A spokesperson for Facebook said that while private groups offer additional privacy, their users must adhere to its community standards. They also said that it finds nearly 90 per cent of all the hate speech it removes before it is reported.
Whichever mod did this you are my hero.
All you fuckers are my heroes. Damn these balls are heavy to carry..
Telling these fascists where to shove it gives me a 1776 chubby. Fuck off retards. We're not playing your bullshit game by your rules. We're playing Trump's game now.
Are you tired of winning yet? I'm not.
When I read this post, I actually put it in my saved folder I named "Good News" haha. If they're this pissed off at us, we're definitely doing something right.
Now consider this, the FT has 6 times the hits as TheDonald, but we are growing, they are shrinking. The FT bounce rate is 3x that of the Donald. The average person on this site visits 4x more pages per visit and spends 5x the amount of time on TheDonald than they do on the FT.
One can easily make the argument that TheDonald is already more influential than the self important FT
Если пропаганда изгнания коммунистов из нашей страны считается ультраправым дискурсом, то да, мы сторонники
Is this the hacker known as 4chan?
It's the patriot known as GTFORed.
Mueller has entered the chat
Mueller has left the chat since it was beyond his purview
I'm here to carry along. I watch and wait for the next action and in the meantime I'll lift em with you.
The same fuckers who still bleat about Muh Russia calling us conspiracists is a bit rich.
Bleat. As good as I've seen. 🏆🍻
Hey now. Did you know russia spent money on ads! Whos the conspiracist now huh. Even has racist included in the word so its gotta be true. /s
Dont they understand they just make us sound like the edgy cool kids in the back of the class
It's amazing how you can just see what they criticize and use it for yourself as a list of good platforms to switch to.
So, telegram, got it.
We should organize us on Telegram to make timed post on other platforms, so we can reach maximum impact.
Like when I used to browse againsthatesubreddits to find new dank subs to lurk
This piece is just a media matters complaint box
That’s because we are.
At this point I can care less about their labels, at this point if your being labeled by those things your doing something right.
But the riots are mostly peaceful
Indeed - I wonder why none of those “disinformation investigators” ever find any in the MSM. How did it go? First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you... then you win!
Why yes. Just yesterday I saw a piece on Faux Noise. The disinformation specialist compiled a list of times where Faux had someone on there making predictions and the predictions were wrong.
The peaceful are mostly riots.
When were there riots? I havent heard anything about riots. Kek.
Hey, remember Alt-Right™? And the other side calling itself The Resistance™? Yeah, I almost forgot that media-made-up bullshit too.
I would like to state for the record that we did not send him Russian text that said that.
We sent him a screenshot of Russian text that said that. Just so he'd have to look up the cyrillic alphabet and painstakingly copy-paste each letter into Google Translate.
Arrest this man. He just murdered my abs
RIP your sides
A multi-layered troll of the fake news media. Nothing but the best 👌👌👌
Exceptional work. How is it "Journalists" for which traditionally required some form of literature classes fail to understand satire. I guess in the lens of a progressive cultist everything is always serious.
It's why reddit invented "/s". Autistic keyboard warriors can't understand humor.
Annoying convention too. For the most part, /s is useless and ruins the joke.
The left in general has no sense of humor.
We, on the other hand, have the ability to no only laugh at and with others, but we also have the ability to laugh at ourselves. Our joy in life pisses them off to no end.
That's a fundamental trait of sociopathic narcissists, don'tcha know.
Top 6,500 GLOBALLY.
0bama didn't build that. Our great mods did.
Thank you to the ft for the free advertising and new pedes that will come as people visit and find a different reality than the one presented by the Russiagate conspiracy theorist fake news democrats.
The absolute toppest of keks. Well played.
Mightbe the bottom kek. You knew, the based kek.
KEK <== this one
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To have the foresight to create .win when Reddit was going down. Genius
Imagine everything happening this year and this site not existing during it all
Are there subwins?
Plebbit has subs. Win has Doms aka domains. There is a list of the official ones at communities.win. It would be easy to setup a scam site, so don't trust any random site with '.win' at the end.
r/dotwin is open.
Don't forget that /r/TheRedPill got quarantined first and made their own off reddit site first. They are also talked about in the same way as this article but actually consist of a bunch of quality men.
Wait, what is the site?
the red pill was a corner stone for getting me started in my 20s. Not just with the ladies but getting interested in job promotion, finances and fitness.
I am sooo relieved they censored us out of that hell website. Instead of constantly checking over my shoulder to be sure I'm not violating their bullshit rules (that don't apply to leftists) we have all the free speech we could ever dream of
The ultimate in Big Brother tactics was sending ban warnings for upvoting wrongthink.
Not only warnings for upvoting wrongthink, but not even telling you what it thought was wrongthink.
This place is so much more fun anyway.
That always reminded me of a joke from the old Soviet Union: Ivan is standing in line for bread. He's been there for hours. Finally, he snaps. "I fought for this country in WWII! I suffered and sacrificed and this is my miserable reward?!" An officer appears and takes him aside. "Comrade, comrade, calm down...remember how it was in the old days?" He makes a pistol-to-the-head gesture. Ivan goes home. "Were they out of bread?" asks his wife. "Worse," says Ivan. "They're out of bullets."
The majority of people didn't migrate until the ban. It was actually the worse move they could have done. Over there they still could stifle speech here - youhavenopowerhere.gif