As others have said, outside the cities, the area is pretty deep red and would be against it and probably welcome the military in.
So that would leave the small urban areas that have no resources and now have all the resource routes blocked. They start to starve, if it lasts that long, military goes back in removes the local govt. hold new elections.
The issue is that the state's National Guard is all they've got really.
When something like 45% of the vote it R ... the "State Guard" is going to "not participate", "collapse into anarchy", or possibly "Join the Feds".
Washington State, in particular, the "State Patrol" is "Speeders". They aren't numerous enough in any directions to be "It" - We've always runs this by handing that off to the Sheriff's Depts - and "Three Blue Counties secede" isn't going to do anything for anyone.
During the Civil War, there was fierce loyalty to your particular State.
It would all play out precisely like ANTIFA/BLM trying to egg the suburbs into a race war. "But! They'll have XYZ!" Sure.
They've just spent three months straight demonizing their best chance of trained troops
If the cities only succeed, really all the D areas, the country would be SO much better. Individual responsibility and freedom again. D welfare can not continue without working people's tax contributions. All D areas that seceded would collapse under their own weight. It would be a good thing for all.
The other states are strongly considering it. Okay not really but the feeling is there. Food, water, power will all be huge problems for them if they try.
The suburbs in the Seattle Metro area have been slowly turning blue for the past 25+ years.
Same for Tacoma & Olympia.
I’m a native & have watched this happen.
As far as the areas outside the aforementioned, they tend to be red.
The west coast has 3 cesspools: LA, SF & Seattle. I have lived in all three cities. Portland is a latecomer.
The decline has been radical & quite sad.
Pretty much all of them are once you get away from the big cities. I grew up in OC, California. It was pretty great but couldn't imagine living anywhere in CA now.
Only one state has the ability to legally leave the union. As part of the agreement to become a state and give up some of its territory Texas has that unique ability. There is no other mechanism in any legal document that allows for it short of a constitutional ammendment.
Tell him to make a plan & focus on getting out. It’s not a decision to take lightly & I understand the complications. But focusing on potential places to relocate will help. Jobs & cost of living, family & friends, uprooting —- all challenging & need to be weighed. However, weigh the cost of staying another 3-5 years. The area is becoming unstable.
Best wishes to him.
Yeah, we talk often about this. He understands the seriousness, but not so much his wife. His kids were woke but not sure if they have changed their minds.
I’m in the process of moving out of state. Since I’m from here, it feels like being ripped apart, which is weird. Granted, I don’t have family holding me back, but I’ve watched & waited hoping things would change.
In my opinion, the metro areas are “given over” & will not recover. I can no longer ignore the truth: leaving is for my survival.
I hope both you & your friend(s) are able to relocate to a more pleasant area, where one does not feel they must adapt to the degradation of the surrounding society.
Set your sights on what is potentially ahead locally & elsewhere. Weigh the options & be patient but determined. Life is to be “lived”, not tolerated.
Best to you & yours!
Best wishes with your move. Hope it all goes smooth. I myself moved out long ago, I now live in Australia. I do have a bunch of friends living in DC and Bay Area. Not really sure what they are up to - lost touch with most of them this year. A bunch of them work in Google and Facebook and I am scared to even talk to them.
They need federal aid and funds. They need to be part of the US. People think California is being held back, it is not. It benefits a lot from being part of the US, all those states do.
Their economies would collapse without the US. Heck Tech is their biggest the US wouldn't have to recognize any of their patents or trademarks. It would be a disaster for them with little support among the people.
States can't secede from the Union without the consent of the other states.
As others have said, outside the cities, the area is pretty deep red and would be against it and probably welcome the military in. So that would leave the small urban areas that have no resources and now have all the resource routes blocked. They start to starve, if it lasts that long, military goes back in removes the local govt. hold new elections.
Any reason why this corridor is so blue? Does it have to do with Amazon and their exploitation of workers?
The issue is that the state's National Guard is all they've got really.
When something like 45% of the vote it R ... the "State Guard" is going to "not participate", "collapse into anarchy", or possibly "Join the Feds".
Washington State, in particular, the "State Patrol" is "Speeders". They aren't numerous enough in any directions to be "It" - We've always runs this by handing that off to the Sheriff's Depts - and "Three Blue Counties secede" isn't going to do anything for anyone.
During the Civil War, there was fierce loyalty to your particular State.
It would all play out precisely like ANTIFA/BLM trying to egg the suburbs into a race war. "But! They'll have XYZ!" Sure.
They've just spent three months straight demonizing their best chance of trained troops
If the cities only succeed, really all the D areas, the country would be SO much better. Individual responsibility and freedom again. D welfare can not continue without working people's tax contributions. All D areas that seceded would collapse under their own weight. It would be a good thing for all.
I think they’d just end up coming back to try to rob us once they’re all war torn and starving.
I think everyone will say "yes please".
The other states are strongly considering it. Okay not really but the feeling is there. Food, water, power will all be huge problems for them if they try.
Washington is pretty solid outside of Seattle and Olympia IMO.
The suburbs in the Seattle Metro area have been slowly turning blue for the past 25+ years. Same for Tacoma & Olympia.
I’m a native & have watched this happen. As far as the areas outside the aforementioned, they tend to be red. The west coast has 3 cesspools: LA, SF & Seattle. I have lived in all three cities. Portland is a latecomer.
The decline has been radical & quite sad.
Forgot about Tacoma
Pretty much all of them are once you get away from the big cities. I grew up in OC, California. It was pretty great but couldn't imagine living anywhere in CA now.
If we’re lucky.
Only one state has the ability to legally leave the union. As part of the agreement to become a state and give up some of its territory Texas has that unique ability. There is no other mechanism in any legal document that allows for it short of a constitutional ammendment.
It will look like war.
We can’t let states descend into communism. We are better than that and will save them from themselves, kicking and screaming if necessary.
War will result in far less long-term suffering and death compared to communism.
No not possible.
Then the army goes in to restore the union.
I am telling my friend near Seattle to move to a red state, but its not very practical right now. Even he is worried things like this could happen
Tell him to make a plan & focus on getting out. It’s not a decision to take lightly & I understand the complications. But focusing on potential places to relocate will help. Jobs & cost of living, family & friends, uprooting —- all challenging & need to be weighed. However, weigh the cost of staying another 3-5 years. The area is becoming unstable. Best wishes to him.
Yeah, we talk often about this. He understands the seriousness, but not so much his wife. His kids were woke but not sure if they have changed their minds.
I’m in the process of moving out of state. Since I’m from here, it feels like being ripped apart, which is weird. Granted, I don’t have family holding me back, but I’ve watched & waited hoping things would change. In my opinion, the metro areas are “given over” & will not recover. I can no longer ignore the truth: leaving is for my survival. I hope both you & your friend(s) are able to relocate to a more pleasant area, where one does not feel they must adapt to the degradation of the surrounding society. Set your sights on what is potentially ahead locally & elsewhere. Weigh the options & be patient but determined. Life is to be “lived”, not tolerated. Best to you & yours!
Best wishes with your move. Hope it all goes smooth. I myself moved out long ago, I now live in Australia. I do have a bunch of friends living in DC and Bay Area. Not really sure what they are up to - lost touch with most of them this year. A bunch of them work in Google and Facebook and I am scared to even talk to them.
Legally, no.
Realistically, no.
They need federal aid and funds. They need to be part of the US. People think California is being held back, it is not. It benefits a lot from being part of the US, all those states do.
Their economies would collapse without the US. Heck Tech is their biggest the US wouldn't have to recognize any of their patents or trademarks. It would be a disaster for them with little support among the people.