I always think this when I see people on Nextdoor whining about cars going too fast in front of their house. Keep your kids out of the street! You all have back yards. Where I live, there's literally a park at the end of the block. As long as the cars stay in the road, there's no danger.
And, honestly, if someone did run over your kid, would it really make a difference if he was doing 25 instead of 45?
Instantly stopping might not always be the best answer.
Can't 'recommend' this in case someone isn't sharp enough to understand it and perform it properly .. but:
If someone is struck by a vehicle and then the vehicle instantly stops -- the victim will tend to Not instantly stop.
They will be accelerated to the vehicle's initial impact velocity ala Newton's 3rd Law and, as you instantly stop via your braking system, they'll continue forwards for an unsupported distance and then impact-fall / bounce / tumble / skid down the road, with associated contusions, lacerations, brain injuries, etc.
A better solution (that I cannot recommend) if someone has unavoidably already been struck by a vehicle .. and did not go underneath it .. is to Slowly remove the vehicle's velocity so the impacting pedestrian is not thrown from it.
Possibly even (under control) guiding the vehicle and impact victim to a softer landing surface than the street, for instance: grass, .. but not into a parked car or ditch.
They'll still have been hit by a moving vehicle, but further damage via such things as coup-countercoup concussions (traumatic brain injuries) from slap-landings with the road surface might be mitigated or avoided.
Of course, anyone smart and skilled enough to process and perform all of this in an emergency-instant will be less likely to run over people in the first place, but big world out there.
You are technically right, but the difference you are arguing about is the splatter pattern. Plus the kid is way more likely to go under the car than over because they’re small. For an adult, getting hit at 25 would probably only result in broken bones and bruises, 45 would definitely double your air time.
TLDR you are right, but remember, these are small little creatures. It doesn’t matter if a kid gets hit at 2mph if he ends up under the wheel, the result is the same.
Its about reaction time and the physics of how long it takes to stop a moving object you dullard. Not about whether a kid under a wheel would die either way, it's about avoiding that in the first place...
I love when people call me names because it really makes me want to side with them even more.
And if it were truly about “avoiding that in the first place” then you’d agree with OP that kids shouldn’t be in the streets to begin with. Not my fault you can’t keep an eye on your kids and you expect a moving vehicle to do that for you. Reaction time? You have infinite reaction time to keep them out of the streets, I have split seconds whether or not I’m going 25 or 45. Your logic is poor my fren.
If you slow to a crawl near kids like any responsible adult you have all the time in the world. You clearly don't have kids if you think you're around them 24/7 and can always stop them running into the street. My logic is poor? I feel like I'm talking to a shill you're logic is so patently absurd. But there is no reason to shill this point, so you're just a fucking moron.
there will always be risks and things that limit ideal visibility and drivability in the street. You as the driver ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE. The street isn't a place where you get to roll right over whatever you want at any speed you want because you think you have some kind of godlike supreme right of way.
If you drive like this, and something happens, YOU ARE LEGALLY AT FAULT if you did not take appropriate measures to avoid the accident, and that includes slowing down in residential areas.
You may like your fantasy land better, but it does not match up to social or legal reality. So have fun with that.
edit to downvoters: I used to be a driving instructor. so i may have hurt your feefees, but I know the law when it comes to driving.
Also I have performance brakes and a light car. How do I know these aren’t for a truck with shitty brakes? What ass hole did you pull these numbers from?
Lol. People always assume I'm speeding. I once had a guy run down his driveway and shake his fist at me while yelling, "Slow down!" I looked down at my speedometer and I was doing 20.
Also, I'm nearly 60 years old and I've never hit anyone. Your kids are safer with me than with all of the pearl clutchers.
Bro you sound like a Badass grandpa! Don’t listen to captain concern troll, we all know you were joking about hitting kids. But you are right, my parents didn’t let me anywhere near the streets without at least 3 sets of eyes on me. It’s about priorities. My mom was more concerned with my life than grilling a good hamburger.
I've had this happen. I had some flowmasters and my truck sounds loud but I would get the "SLOW DOWN" from people and I'd gently come to a stop 3 seconds later and just say, "How fast did you think I was going???" and they wouldn't reply.
I know all of us here on TD Win have no tolerance for pedos, but one thing you have to give them credit for is that they ALWAYS slow down when there's kids near the street!
Yep teach kids what happens to those that don't look both ways, and if they're too stupid or irresponsible then supervise and keep them in back. Big delivery trucks like ups are the ones most often speeding here.
People in our neighborhood once got so upset by 'speeders' that they convinced the cops to run radar on our streets. The ones that yelled the loudest changed their tune pretty damn fast once they started getting tickets. I was on the subdivision board at the time. The cops told us that this is what always happens. People freak out over speeders, the cops agree to help, then people ask the cops to go away because THEY ARE THE SPEEDERS.
Plus, as a speeder, I know better than to speed down my own neighborhood, where people can see me being stupid and then park at my place of residence that they’re close enough to to throw eggs and shit at. If I’m speeding, it’s cause I don’t want to be where I’m currently at lol
Do you have kids? You can watch them and teach them all you want but they’re still kids. Sometimes they forget stuff, sometimes they get away and go where they shouldn’t. It isn’t that hard to obey a speed limit, especially in a residential neighborhood.
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard lol.
You can brake faster and with less distance traveled when going 25 as opposed to 45. Kids, whether you drilled this into them or not, run into the street without looking. Chasing a ball, playing tag, being silly, you name it. If that happens and someone is going below 25 (honestly when kids are out you should crawl past them) they would much more likely be able to stop and avoid hitting them than if they were flying down the road at 45 mph.
Think before you post.
It also shows that the they’ve done some research on the law behind this, if they’re advising their drivers of the exact thing to do. We can assume this would be no different regarding normal passenger vehicles.
What a relief. I fully expected it to give to give you race-based instructions.
so I would add one thing. It could be advantageous to carry soy milk in the case that the riot people are experiencing heat exhaustion on the black asphalt
What happened was that the Jogger who crushed his skull and broke his skull in 91 places and pushed it into his brain and made his eyeball fall into his sinus cavity, by throwing a cinderblock on his head in an obvious attempt to murder... was only sentenced to 4 years in prison for misdemeanor (not attempted murder). Six years after he ("Football" Williams) got out, he murdered a man and is now serving life in prison. And hey it only took one more life being lost for the morons in Cuckifornia to properly sentence the jogger........ I am surprised they didn't sentence the victim for having an oppressive colonist skin color. Commiefornia may as well be another country. They're all retards.
There's a book out there written by an Argentinian an how to survive an economic collapse, of which Argentina has had two in the past 20 years. In it, he describes a bunch of survival techniques designed to keep you and your loved ones safe in a world where crime is out of control, but the government still exists and the police still patrol some places.
One of the things he talks about is people attempting to stop your car so they can steal it (or worse) by standing in the middle of the road while their buddies wait in a hiding spot. His advice is to not slow down. In fact, he says that you should speed up and head directly for the person blocking the road. They will get out of the road, especially if they hear the engine rev up.
The thought of a group of highway rioters getting plowed by a giant mechanic flail excites my gf and she’s not even full maga yet. I think I’ll keep her.
My personal view on crime is that if you as the intended victim of the crime can capture your assailant alive, without police intervention, you get to choose (if you like) to keep them locked up in your basement or chained to a pole in your yard until you feel like they've served an adequate period of time, and assign them labor or whatever to do during their period of incarceration. It seems fair, considering your assailant felt he had some right to impose whatever he intended to wrongfully do to you without your consent and without having his actions confined by any legal limitations or notions of fairness.
I wrote an email to my Chiefs and the city admin requesting clarification on policy regarding civil unrest and what the city’s direction to me is if my truck gets swarmed and attacked and my life or my guys lives are in danger and some rioter is blocking my path.
You have to deal with politicians differently than normal people. You write up what you think you should do, and indicate in your message that unless they respond this is the standard operating procedure.
You find politicians in corporate america as well. They either get let go because they can't produce or they rise to the top and eventually destroy the company.
Maybe better still to track down some recognized group's written policies and just tell your employer 'this is a recognized authority, this is what they say is the right thing to do, I'll assume this is what we should do unless you tell me different'.
Follow up and CC your attorney and/or union. Hell, take it to the local News and have them ask why they've ignored and delayed issuing formal policy on how to react when met with violent mobs.
Bogdan in Minneapolis almost was. They beat him up and took his phone and wallet, now I'm fairly sure he had to move because his family was in danger. Very sad. He really should have kept driving but he was a good guy and didn't want to hurt them, and look how they repaid him.
these democrats are fucking evil. why don't we hear about the donation history of ever pedo arrested?
Campaign finance records, which you can see later in this article, show that he has donated money to support President Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee.
Lets be honest, getting hit by a big rig on the interstate is about as dumb as getting hit by a train on the tracks. ... I got sympathy if a car goes up on the shoulder, or plows through a guard rail, but not so much if you are in between the white lines.
I know you probably aren't serious but Iwouldn't recommend it. Autonomous vehicles are coming and trucking will be the first to go by far due to cost savings and relative ease to solve (highway hub to hub) versus urban driving.
We are just one big announcement from that profession being decimated and they are already in testing. Could be years off but there is no way I would head that direction as a career path unless it is as a short-lived stepping stone or filling immediate needs.
I work in AI and I regret to say that it’s nowhere near ready. Will it be? Yes. But I think 10-15 years is a more reasonable estimate. The demos look nice and impressive, but the models can’t handle lots of situations that are easy for a human. Also the amount of hardware needed to perform inference on the road makes drivers a more attractive option cost-wise right now.
I understand where you are coming from and I agree - I am not trying to say we are months away.
Point is...it's a dead end. Don't go there unless temporary. If you are there, start a new career. If you are thinking of going there, start a new career. Do what you need to do to provide for your family...and start a new career so you can feed them in the future.
This is absolutely correct. A 20 year old starting this, considering it a profession is going to be severely disappointed by mid-30s because his industry will be phased out. My husband had a similar problem. Early 30s and his job was phased out due to internet and export of industry to China. Sent him back to school and he's an engineer now. Point is, it's a difficult position to be in, mature-aged student with young children. Studying was an absolute bitch for awhile there.
People are down voting us, which is ridiculous even if they dosagree. I appreciate your comment. Even if it takes 10-15 years...it WILL end. That is time a young person could have been putting into something with a future. Instead they will be starting over at a terrible time to do so.
It is definitely a dead end. And more like within 5 years. I am a programmer and have worked with AI and artificial vision. AI has already gotten far enough to self drive pretty reliably.
Massive amounts of money is being invested in developing the AI brains. Elon Musk. Nvidia. Google. And tons of others. All working toward self driving cars. It is THE technology goal that everyone is racing to achieve, and whoever gets there first will earn Trillions! (The technology is not shareable/stealable by other companies, since each AI brain is trained using proprietary data. So China can't just copy patents. Whoever gets a reliable AI brain first will sit on incredible power and with zero competition.)
The Google captchas we all have to do to "pick all traffic lights" etc is literally training the AI how to detect those objects. The captchas consist of tricky images the AI is uncertain about (like a lamppost being guessed as "60% traffic light, 80% lamp post" and it being unable to be totally sure which it truly is) . But every time we solve captchas it gets more and more certain of how to recognize objects.
The artificial brains are being trained to recognize patterns similarly to human vision and brains. The vision is the most important and when it's accurate enough then it's trivial to code the driving algorithm. We are not far off from reliable self driving cars.
A driver being replaceable by a computer that costs the same as a 1 year "salary for a human driver" will pay for itself in just a year.
Half a decade until we see self-driving trucks is reasonable. So yeah do not go into trucking for a living...
Programming is going to be the #1 top paid job of the future. Being a talented programmer that is able to create the code that makes all the robots do the work. But programming is not for everyone either. It requires some extremely esoteric thinking. Almost 100% of programmers are pretty shitty and sloppy at it and then there are very few geniuses like Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates, Steve Wozniak etc.
So the future is bleak for all workers. Only truly exceptional programmers will get jobs. And they will be programming the robots that harvest and serve our food, harvest natural resources, run our transportation systems, our classrooms and daycares, etc.
What will other people do to earn a living? Prostituting themselves? What else does a human have to offer in a post-human world? There will be either mass starvation if nobody gets any income, or mass overpopulation if everyone gets fed by efficient robots.
It's definitely a dystopia and something humanity has to tackle soon, just as Elon Musk has warned too.
And hey if you want a taste of the future today, just buy a Virtual Reality headset. You'll be transported to another world. We may end up like in The Matrix. Just useless humans asleep in virtuality while the robots run everything. 🤔
Exactly. SkyNet in the Terminator definitely started "small" too. But the more powerful AI gets, the more engineers will pile on extra capabilities until it runs the whole world. People who can't understand the growing power of technology, and just downvote, are ignorant. Literally science deniers. 😂
I'm a programmer too. My main difference of opinion right now on self driving cars is based on how bad everything else these companies do.
I can browse a website or use an app for any of the major companies and become quickly disappointed by how many bugs become introduced. Most companies skip the QA process, because its expensive.
All it will take is one bad patch pushed from Google or Ford or whatever to realize that auto-updating every vehicle in the country can be abused. Just takes a look at Windows 10 auto updates. It'll literally be the worst terrorist attack ever if someone figured out how to send all self driving cars into whatever target they desire.
While i can see the positives of it, there's also the debate of who's responsible for a decision the car made that ended up with a liable action. Google? The original programmer? The owner? The government? There's no real target of the blame when a self driving car decides to kill its passengers to save a deer on the road because it thought it was kids, and Google decided the kids lives were more important than the passengers when teaching the AI.
You are right that it will take trial and error to tune how the AI should prioritize unusual traffic accidents.
However, regarding terrorist attacks via software updates:
It'll literally be the worst terrorist attack ever if someone figured out how to send all self driving cars into whatever target they desire.
They will not be able to do that without corporate espionage AND a takeover. Because updates would be cryptographically signed with a private key that only one or a handful of top people at the car manufacturer would have. Any update would have to be signed with that key.
And the cars would update via the central website, so attackers would need both the crypto key and have full control of the update server.
And the server itself would be using HTTPS encryption to ensure there can't be Man-in-the-Middle or impersonation attacks.
This is logical stuff that they will definitely be dealing with to ensure the car software is safe.
As for badly coded updates, that's a concern but I am sure regulation of the industry will help.
Perhaps. Perhaps companies will successfully lock down their update process to avoid any nefarious acts.
Or perhaps it'll remain as unsecure as the current locking mechanism on current cars. But that's what it is - a huge maybe. I've never came across a full proof security system.
I've been hearing about trucking going autonomous but in reality, as much as Elon Musk thinks he's a genius and can pull it off, those trucks are carrying tons and tons of weight. To put a fully loaded truck on the road without a driver would be absolutely disastrous.
100% it is coming. There is far too much money in it for corporations. If they cannot solve the problem completely with technology, they will solve it by having special riads or lanes. It is going to happen.
Sure, and one day they'll have automatic surgery machines but until then, a dude in a labcoats gonna need you to bend over and spread em to check for Cancer
There are other issues though. A human driver can diagnose and repair a truck better than a robot. A human driver puts someone physically responsible for the load and to be held accountable for issues.
Hell I can imagine stagecoach robbery coming back, since a robot truck would have predictable behaviors and in theory could have any transmissions jammed relatively cheaply. Just go jam a FedEx truck on a lonely highway and run it off the road, and bust into the back.
For the first few years they would still have a "driver". If you want to be a trucker, you're going to be a local trucker in a few years who takes things to and from depots on the highway that the autonomous trucks service.
On the contrary... Allowing meat sacks to continue to pilot many thousands of pounds across our country has already proven to be dangerous. Self driving tech already experiences less issues per million miles driven than the average human driver. I question teslas estimate of 6-7 times safer, but I have no doubt it's at least a little safer.
Every measurement I've seen takes self driving vehicles, place them in ideal conditions, and then compares it to all of America, which includes roads without lines, roads with potholes, roads without pavement, roads with random obstructions, roads without visibility due to fog and weather, roads with snow which hide the lines.
I want to see a self driving vehicle navigate a blizzard on back country NY roads rather successfully and randomly. Then I'll be impressed.
Replacing the safest form of driving (interstate travel) with robots don't make nearly as much sense as handling the most dangerous conditions that humans can't handle safely.
This isn't about navigating back country roads or road construction . This is about moving freight from rest stop to rest stop along a known path. It doesn't (and won't) replace human drivers 100%. But even replacing 15% of miles driven is going to be a major cost savings disruption.
They'll be used to depress wages, sure, but a computer will never be allowed to have custody of a shipment (meaning there's still a human physically present, just maybe not driving). It's just too easy to fool one (like this situation for instance) and rob it blind, or get into disputes as to who's responsible when any of the dumb shit that could happen happens.
We are talking about autonomous driving of vehicles that could crush you in your car and continue chugging along as if your crumpled vehicle wedges in the axel isn’t even there.
Automated trucks are coming, but it’s so far off and as someone who works in automation I always laugh when I see a Reddit post on it because they are just so ignorant on what industrial automation actually is and can do.
Trucking is a good career to still go into. Honestly the industry now is focusing more on electric trucks than self driving ones. And how it is with all automated jobs, other jobs are created. Sure, you may have one “driver” monitoring the screen on four trucks that are driving themselves (which I don’t see happening sooner than 50 years) and since due to this we will probably have 4x the trucks on the roads or more we will still have a ton of truck “drivers”. They will just be operators behind a screen.
What may happen sooner than 50 years is trucks will drive themselves on long stretches of highway and drivers take over when a truck needs to exit to go the last few miles to its final destination. This also will still require a ton of drivers.
Lots of people online seem to think we automate stuff to make it cheaper and once it’s automated the machine just runs itself forever. That is absolutely false and in fact 99% of stuff I worked on is actually much more expensive to run once automated, and usually we only automate because we need tolerances or speed humans aren’t capable of.
10 years is a long time in technology terms. I am not going to comment on some exact timelines but as I said above - it will end.
Lifetime earnings are strongly tied to career advancement and experience. If someone is 20 today, are you saying it will be good for them to start over in their 30s if it takes that long? You do what you need to do, but it isn't desirable if it can simply be avoided.
How many years before the number of available jobs is lower than the number of qualified people trying to get those jobs?
The livelihood of the trucker doesn't end the day that the last truck is made automated. The livelihood ends when competition among truckers for available work drives the quality of life or salary below a sustainable level.
10 years may be when the first few trucks are running themselves on the road and the squeeze will be started which will never end.
Automated trucking is not going to be a thing at scale for decades to come, especially fully electric vehicles. They're still going to need people to refill them and maintain them on the road which will provide a good transition period for a lot of truckers. By that point anyone entering trucking now could spend time learning how to service vehicles and the learn the business-side of the industry to position themselves well after the transition takes place.
That's a really ironic example. Are you aware that use of capchas is strongly tied to making the robotic AI better at doing just that? It was the entire point of their popularization, just like fun filters on video apps help teach software to recognize faces. And software is GREAT at it now.
Also understand with your first two items...you are strengthening my point. I am saying trucking will come first because it doesn't need to worry about those issues. A truck can drive the same path over and over.
Yes ma'am you heard correctly, I said the victim was wearing a BLM tank top, fishnet stockings, heals, blue-no lavender hair. Buzzcut like...earrings, heavy makeup...oh hang on, I think he's coming to
Never forget what happened to Reginald Denny when he stopped. He was pulled out of his truck and beaten with a brick during the L.A. riots. He survived because four citizens came to his rescue and drove him to the hospital. He suffered a fractured skull and impairment of his speech and ability to walk, for which he underwent years of rehabilitative therapy.
Makes me want to have one of those license plate flip things. See a crowd, engage license plate, floor it. Make it home, park car in garage until I can take care of the body work.
BREAKING: Peaceful protesters stand against racist trains were ran over today while exercising their constitutional armed riot on the tracks. The train conductor was heard screaming "NO BREAKS!" a clear dog whistle to far right-wing extremists.
So right. Avoid the mob, take another route, turn around, do whatever you can to avoid the situation. But if the mob is coming for you and there's no way out, punch it. Plow through them, get away, when safe deal with the legal ramifications.
I've seen too many videos of people driving through a crowd, going 20' further and stopping. The now even more enraged crowd re-swarms them.
They have to do this. Truckers aren't going to risk their life to placate the commies. I know a truck driver who just quit his job because they wanted him to make runs to NYC. Dude said no and quit.
I would definitely engine break after the first one and get down to a comfortable 35 or so so you can hear the squishing as you drive over dem. God bless Reginald Denny✅
That is what they say also "unofficially" in developing countries in Africa, South/Middle America or South Asian countries. You might get an instant, violent blame mob around your car or truck, looking for an excuse to start a fight. No matter whose fault it was.
Anyone remember the anti-protestor bus that was built towards the end of Dawn of the Dead? Itd be pretty sweet to have that tour the nation's protest hotspots like a violent Oscar Meyer wiener mobile.
That's right, SLOW THE HELL DOWN! If you are doing 70 in a 60, slow down to 60 to be sure you are obeying the speed limit. That is a safe speed to drive on the highway.
"How slow is 'slow'? What MPH is considered 'safe' to both not instantly kill a protestor AND also prevent people from climbing onto my vehicle and attempting to remove me from it? I don't want to be second-guessed by a manager or HR after trying to escape a life-threatening situation. I want a corporate guideline to follow for my own protection."
Probably you go your whole career and never get stopped by a terrorist as the first vehicle at the front of the line.
If it does happen, common sense will dictate not going slow enough to let people jump on and threaten your life.
If I were back in the pack, I would probably seek exit using the shoulder, regardless if there were commies blocking it. You know the old saying: "When ya gotta mow, ya gotta mow."
Sorry, but momentum still equals mass times velocity. If you lose too much momentum running slowly over a large animal, for example, it could end up stopping your vehicle—and, in this case, your life.
Does not work with grounded objects. Just things that can deflect away.
It's interesting how often objects that seem grounded will go FLYING out of the way when struck with sufficient momentum. Street signs, traffic light posts, etc. Used to watch COPS when it was on (before the nation's youth was systematically taught to hate, fear, disrespect, and attack the police), and they'd have drunk mofos staggering across the street getting blasted by a speeding car and SAILING over the top of that thing, their shoes ending up in another ZIP code, and living through it no problem. "Huh? Wha happm?"
I have no problem if they live through it. Just gonna make sure I do.
Remember to get your sleep friend, trucking is no joke. My first day some lot lizards tried to get me and my trainer to come out of the truck and buy some cologne.
Ngl, they were hot asf, but we joked later they wanted to harvest our organs.
That's sound policy.
As a wise man once said:
"That's where the cars are, dumb ass."
Stay Out Of The Street, That's Where The Cars Go!
But they learned how Che thought black lives mattered!
Spicy
Damn GTA San Andreas ruined all those formative years for street training.
Pretty sure Liberals failed more lessons than that. :/
BLM soyboy: noO0Ooooo! You can’t just run people over because they won’t get out of the street and attack drivers that stop!!!1!
Based Driver Chad: haha, semi truck goes BRRR
And then the soyboys go crunch.
I always think this when I see people on Nextdoor whining about cars going too fast in front of their house. Keep your kids out of the street! You all have back yards. Where I live, there's literally a park at the end of the block. As long as the cars stay in the road, there's no danger.
And, honestly, if someone did run over your kid, would it really make a difference if he was doing 25 instead of 45?
Yes 45 mph to 25 mph makes a difference you idiot.
Certainly does if you need to stop.
(Ideally not hitting kids at either speed) ..
Instantly stopping might not always be the best answer.
Can't 'recommend' this in case someone isn't sharp enough to understand it and perform it properly .. but:
If someone is struck by a vehicle and then the vehicle instantly stops -- the victim will tend to Not instantly stop.
They will be accelerated to the vehicle's initial impact velocity ala Newton's 3rd Law and, as you instantly stop via your braking system, they'll continue forwards for an unsupported distance and then impact-fall / bounce / tumble / skid down the road, with associated contusions, lacerations, brain injuries, etc.
A better solution (that I cannot recommend) if someone has unavoidably already been struck by a vehicle .. and did not go underneath it .. is to Slowly remove the vehicle's velocity so the impacting pedestrian is not thrown from it.
Possibly even (under control) guiding the vehicle and impact victim to a softer landing surface than the street, for instance: grass, .. but not into a parked car or ditch.
They'll still have been hit by a moving vehicle, but further damage via such things as coup-countercoup concussions (traumatic brain injuries) from slap-landings with the road surface might be mitigated or avoided.
Of course, anyone smart and skilled enough to process and perform all of this in an emergency-instant will be less likely to run over people in the first place, but big world out there.
(the more you know 🌠)
As long as you hit them at the exact moment you stop the transfer works. That lind of timi g is difficult.
I can’t believe you had to say this but thank you. Hilarious
You are technically right, but the difference you are arguing about is the splatter pattern. Plus the kid is way more likely to go under the car than over because they’re small. For an adult, getting hit at 25 would probably only result in broken bones and bruises, 45 would definitely double your air time.
TLDR you are right, but remember, these are small little creatures. It doesn’t matter if a kid gets hit at 2mph if he ends up under the wheel, the result is the same.
Its about reaction time and the physics of how long it takes to stop a moving object you dullard. Not about whether a kid under a wheel would die either way, it's about avoiding that in the first place...
I love when people call me names because it really makes me want to side with them even more.
And if it were truly about “avoiding that in the first place” then you’d agree with OP that kids shouldn’t be in the streets to begin with. Not my fault you can’t keep an eye on your kids and you expect a moving vehicle to do that for you. Reaction time? You have infinite reaction time to keep them out of the streets, I have split seconds whether or not I’m going 25 or 45. Your logic is poor my fren.
If you slow to a crawl near kids like any responsible adult you have all the time in the world. You clearly don't have kids if you think you're around them 24/7 and can always stop them running into the street. My logic is poor? I feel like I'm talking to a shill you're logic is so patently absurd. But there is no reason to shill this point, so you're just a fucking moron.
Rrally hard not to call you names when your logic is beyond retarded. Go as fast as you want on the highway. Go 20 in residential areas.
if it is determined by forensic analysis that you did not attempt to stop before you struck the victim, you are fucked and going to jail.
complete stop from 20mph = approx 40 feet
complete stop from 40 mph = approx 120 feet
now think it through... you can do it.
No kids in the street - 0% chance of getting hit
Let kids play in street - odds increase.
You do the math.
there will always be risks and things that limit ideal visibility and drivability in the street. You as the driver ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE. The street isn't a place where you get to roll right over whatever you want at any speed you want because you think you have some kind of godlike supreme right of way.
If you drive like this, and something happens, YOU ARE LEGALLY AT FAULT if you did not take appropriate measures to avoid the accident, and that includes slowing down in residential areas.
You may like your fantasy land better, but it does not match up to social or legal reality. So have fun with that.
edit to downvoters: I used to be a driving instructor. so i may have hurt your feefees, but I know the law when it comes to driving.
Also I have performance brakes and a light car. How do I know these aren’t for a truck with shitty brakes? What ass hole did you pull these numbers from?
Odd comparison. Your performance brakes still stop the car in a significantly shorter distance at 25 than 45.
That’s what happened to The Shah of Iran
Omfg lmao what is this from?!?!
The sopranos, last episode iirc
Lol. People always assume I'm speeding. I once had a guy run down his driveway and shake his fist at me while yelling, "Slow down!" I looked down at my speedometer and I was doing 20.
Also, I'm nearly 60 years old and I've never hit anyone. Your kids are safer with me than with all of the pearl clutchers.
Bro you sound like a Badass grandpa! Don’t listen to captain concern troll, we all know you were joking about hitting kids. But you are right, my parents didn’t let me anywhere near the streets without at least 3 sets of eyes on me. It’s about priorities. My mom was more concerned with my life than grilling a good hamburger.
I've had this happen. I had some flowmasters and my truck sounds loud but I would get the "SLOW DOWN" from people and I'd gently come to a stop 3 seconds later and just say, "How fast did you think I was going???" and they wouldn't reply.
I'd say when driving by kids the limit is irresponsible. The safe and considerate thing to do is slow down to a crawl until you pass them.
I know all of us here on TD Win have no tolerance for pedos, but one thing you have to give them credit for is that they ALWAYS slow down when there's kids near the street!
Meh, life was pretty fucking awesome when you could run around the neighborhood like a moron hanging out with your friends doing stupid shit.
Everyone in this story is too concerned with safety. Fuck all that, let them run around being free.
It does make a difference if they were going 25 vs 45, but that's still thinking about the wrong problem.
Yep teach kids what happens to those that don't look both ways, and if they're too stupid or irresponsible then supervise and keep them in back. Big delivery trucks like ups are the ones most often speeding here.
People in our neighborhood once got so upset by 'speeders' that they convinced the cops to run radar on our streets. The ones that yelled the loudest changed their tune pretty damn fast once they started getting tickets. I was on the subdivision board at the time. The cops told us that this is what always happens. People freak out over speeders, the cops agree to help, then people ask the cops to go away because THEY ARE THE SPEEDERS.
That is fucking hilarious.
Plus, as a speeder, I know better than to speed down my own neighborhood, where people can see me being stupid and then park at my place of residence that they’re close enough to to throw eggs and shit at. If I’m speeding, it’s cause I don’t want to be where I’m currently at lol
Do you have kids? You can watch them and teach them all you want but they’re still kids. Sometimes they forget stuff, sometimes they get away and go where they shouldn’t. It isn’t that hard to obey a speed limit, especially in a residential neighborhood.
Bring back leash laws!
This is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard lol. You can brake faster and with less distance traveled when going 25 as opposed to 45. Kids, whether you drilled this into them or not, run into the street without looking. Chasing a ball, playing tag, being silly, you name it. If that happens and someone is going below 25 (honestly when kids are out you should crawl past them) they would much more likely be able to stop and avoid hitting them than if they were flying down the road at 45 mph. Think before you post.
It also shows that the they’ve done some research on the law behind this, if they’re advising their drivers of the exact thing to do. We can assume this would be no different regarding normal passenger vehicles.
What a relief. I fully expected it to give to give you race-based instructions.
so I would add one thing. It could be advantageous to carry soy milk in the case that the riot people are experiencing heat exhaustion on the black asphalt
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The Da Cracker Code 〽️🔺
'they?' 'THEY?' 'Ya'll sayin is Me?'
'Just for that, I'm gonna burn down the Apple store and get a phone.'
Looks like they remembered what happened to Reginald Denny.
What happened was that the Jogger who crushed his skull and broke his skull in 91 places and pushed it into his brain and made his eyeball fall into his sinus cavity, by throwing a cinderblock on his head in an obvious attempt to murder... was only sentenced to 4 years in prison for misdemeanor (not attempted murder). Six years after he ("Football" Williams) got out, he murdered a man and is now serving life in prison. And hey it only took one more life being lost for the morons in Cuckifornia to properly sentence the jogger........ I am surprised they didn't sentence the victim for having an oppressive colonist skin color. Commiefornia may as well be another country. They're all retards.
There's a book out there written by an Argentinian an how to survive an economic collapse, of which Argentina has had two in the past 20 years. In it, he describes a bunch of survival techniques designed to keep you and your loved ones safe in a world where crime is out of control, but the government still exists and the police still patrol some places.
One of the things he talks about is people attempting to stop your car so they can steal it (or worse) by standing in the middle of the road while their buddies wait in a hiding spot. His advice is to not slow down. In fact, he says that you should speed up and head directly for the person blocking the road. They will get out of the road, especially if they hear the engine rev up.
Here's the book, and I do recommend it for everyone: https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Survival-Manual-Surviving-Economic/dp/9870563457
Thanks, pede. Could be extremely useful in the coming months, sadly.
“Slow down to a nice even pace of 40 mph.”
Yeah, when I read that I was curious about how much the driver is supposed to slow down. Can't go slow enough to allow people to jump up on the truck.
I was thinking “slow” down from 65 to 55
The one on the right side's the brake, right?
Sorry, riots make me forget things.
You've decolonized math!
Air horn as you plow the crowd!
That will make glorious videos!
Two honks for clown world
two honks, two scoops, two terms, two genders!
Cow catcher in front, drop a gear and PLOW.
Or go one better and attach a mine flail to the front.
Change out the chains for leather whips for extra offensiveness.
Careful. You might end up attracting these deviants.
really piss off the vegans
The thought of a group of highway rioters getting plowed by a giant mechanic flail excites my gf and she’s not even full maga yet. I think I’ll keep her.
Here's a video of one in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqY39bCPeVM
Awesome.
We have the best flails and the best links folks believe me!
Dude! Beautiful.
Finally, something worthy of PPV. I would pay to watch that!
Call Mr. Plow
That’s my name
That name again is Mr. Plow
Americans should take notes from our Australian truckin' cousins and run full Road Train bumpers. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/87/4d/a7874d5074c420d51a5538be7e407de0.jpg
ROAD TRAIN - NO BRAKES
Needs a couple of flaming skulls but other than that, perfect.
Cow catcher? More like clown catcher.
MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE
Now I want a semi-truck with a big green goblin face on the front....
Gabriel's Trumpet baby!
That's where we the people should step in. Mass armed groups surrounding any place that perverts justice. You know the thing.
Why aren't we showing up at their houses in the night?
I have long advocated that anyone shot, injured, or anything during the commission of a crime should not have any rights to sue, etc.
Shot for shoplifting? I don't give a rat's ass; you chose to break the law. Should have given up gracefully...
My personal view on crime is that if you as the intended victim of the crime can capture your assailant alive, without police intervention, you get to choose (if you like) to keep them locked up in your basement or chained to a pole in your yard until you feel like they've served an adequate period of time, and assign them labor or whatever to do during their period of incarceration. It seems fair, considering your assailant felt he had some right to impose whatever he intended to wrongfully do to you without your consent and without having his actions confined by any legal limitations or notions of fairness.
I drive a fire truck for a living.
I wrote an email to my Chiefs and the city admin requesting clarification on policy regarding civil unrest and what the city’s direction to me is if my truck gets swarmed and attacked and my life or my guys lives are in danger and some rioter is blocking my path.
That was two months ago.
Still no response.
You have to deal with politicians differently than normal people. You write up what you think you should do, and indicate in your message that unless they respond this is the standard operating procedure.
My thoughts exactly.
As you get to higher levels, the same thing flies well in the work/corporate environment too.
You find politicians in corporate america as well. They either get let go because they can't produce or they rise to the top and eventually destroy the company.
Maybe better still to track down some recognized group's written policies and just tell your employer 'this is a recognized authority, this is what they say is the right thing to do, I'll assume this is what we should do unless you tell me different'.
do it scientifically too. cite examples of what happens to vehicles that allow themselves to be stopped, and those that do not.
consider what might happen to future ability of the city to handle fires should one of their engines be lost to looting.
Follow up and CC your attorney and/or union. Hell, take it to the local News and have them ask why they've ignored and delayed issuing formal policy on how to react when met with violent mobs.
This. They hate bad press
Echoing what others said here - don't let that sit. They are leaving culpability with you. Are you okay with that?
For sure print that out and keep it with your papers.
Roads are for vehickes. Sidewalks are for pedestrians. Almost every locality and state has laws against blocking traffic.
That is a great point. They leave culpability with you. Not acceptable!
Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Firefighters and fire truck drivers have limited sovereign immunity so you should be fine.
The politicians keeping mum gives both of you plausible deniability and protection from negligence claims.
Keep your foot on the gas, and let the lawyers sort things out.
How about 35 and 4WD?
But how can we know without trying it out though?
Today on Mythbusters....
Rip grant
Only when backing up.
In other words... don't become the next Reginald Denny.
Bogdan in Minneapolis almost was. They beat him up and took his phone and wallet, now I'm fairly sure he had to move because his family was in danger. Very sad. He really should have kept driving but he was a good guy and didn't want to hurt them, and look how they repaid him.
https://archive.vn/klTk4
these democrats are fucking evil. why don't we hear about the donation history of ever pedo arrested?
Do not stop winning!
-Travels at 75mph on the interstate
-Sees “peaceful protestors in the distance
-Reduce speed to 74mph
-“Boss only said to slow down, he didn’t say how much”
Lets be honest, getting hit by a big rig on the interstate is about as dumb as getting hit by a train on the tracks. ... I got sympathy if a car goes up on the shoulder, or plows through a guard rail, but not so much if you are in between the white lines.
Genius.
I think I found my new profession
I know you probably aren't serious but Iwouldn't recommend it. Autonomous vehicles are coming and trucking will be the first to go by far due to cost savings and relative ease to solve (highway hub to hub) versus urban driving.
We are just one big announcement from that profession being decimated and they are already in testing. Could be years off but there is no way I would head that direction as a career path unless it is as a short-lived stepping stone or filling immediate needs.
I work in AI and I regret to say that it’s nowhere near ready. Will it be? Yes. But I think 10-15 years is a more reasonable estimate. The demos look nice and impressive, but the models can’t handle lots of situations that are easy for a human. Also the amount of hardware needed to perform inference on the road makes drivers a more attractive option cost-wise right now.
I understand where you are coming from and I agree - I am not trying to say we are months away.
Point is...it's a dead end. Don't go there unless temporary. If you are there, start a new career. If you are thinking of going there, start a new career. Do what you need to do to provide for your family...and start a new career so you can feed them in the future.
This is absolutely correct. A 20 year old starting this, considering it a profession is going to be severely disappointed by mid-30s because his industry will be phased out. My husband had a similar problem. Early 30s and his job was phased out due to internet and export of industry to China. Sent him back to school and he's an engineer now. Point is, it's a difficult position to be in, mature-aged student with young children. Studying was an absolute bitch for awhile there.
People are down voting us, which is ridiculous even if they dosagree. I appreciate your comment. Even if it takes 10-15 years...it WILL end. That is time a young person could have been putting into something with a future. Instead they will be starting over at a terrible time to do so.
It is definitely a dead end. And more like within 5 years. I am a programmer and have worked with AI and artificial vision. AI has already gotten far enough to self drive pretty reliably.
Massive amounts of money is being invested in developing the AI brains. Elon Musk. Nvidia. Google. And tons of others. All working toward self driving cars. It is THE technology goal that everyone is racing to achieve, and whoever gets there first will earn Trillions! (The technology is not shareable/stealable by other companies, since each AI brain is trained using proprietary data. So China can't just copy patents. Whoever gets a reliable AI brain first will sit on incredible power and with zero competition.)
The Google captchas we all have to do to "pick all traffic lights" etc is literally training the AI how to detect those objects. The captchas consist of tricky images the AI is uncertain about (like a lamppost being guessed as "60% traffic light, 80% lamp post" and it being unable to be totally sure which it truly is) . But every time we solve captchas it gets more and more certain of how to recognize objects.
The artificial brains are being trained to recognize patterns similarly to human vision and brains. The vision is the most important and when it's accurate enough then it's trivial to code the driving algorithm. We are not far off from reliable self driving cars.
A driver being replaceable by a computer that costs the same as a 1 year "salary for a human driver" will pay for itself in just a year.
Half a decade until we see self-driving trucks is reasonable. So yeah do not go into trucking for a living...
Programming is going to be the #1 top paid job of the future. Being a talented programmer that is able to create the code that makes all the robots do the work. But programming is not for everyone either. It requires some extremely esoteric thinking. Almost 100% of programmers are pretty shitty and sloppy at it and then there are very few geniuses like Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates, Steve Wozniak etc.
So the future is bleak for all workers. Only truly exceptional programmers will get jobs. And they will be programming the robots that harvest and serve our food, harvest natural resources, run our transportation systems, our classrooms and daycares, etc.
What will other people do to earn a living? Prostituting themselves? What else does a human have to offer in a post-human world? There will be either mass starvation if nobody gets any income, or mass overpopulation if everyone gets fed by efficient robots.
It's definitely a dystopia and something humanity has to tackle soon, just as Elon Musk has warned too.
And hey if you want a taste of the future today, just buy a Virtual Reality headset. You'll be transported to another world. We may end up like in The Matrix. Just useless humans asleep in virtuality while the robots run everything. 🤔
Thank you, said this exact thing in another comment...irony was essentially "haha machines are stupid, that's why they can't solve capchas!"
Exactly. SkyNet in the Terminator definitely started "small" too. But the more powerful AI gets, the more engineers will pile on extra capabilities until it runs the whole world. People who can't understand the growing power of technology, and just downvote, are ignorant. Literally science deniers. 😂
I'm a programmer too. My main difference of opinion right now on self driving cars is based on how bad everything else these companies do.
I can browse a website or use an app for any of the major companies and become quickly disappointed by how many bugs become introduced. Most companies skip the QA process, because its expensive.
All it will take is one bad patch pushed from Google or Ford or whatever to realize that auto-updating every vehicle in the country can be abused. Just takes a look at Windows 10 auto updates. It'll literally be the worst terrorist attack ever if someone figured out how to send all self driving cars into whatever target they desire.
While i can see the positives of it, there's also the debate of who's responsible for a decision the car made that ended up with a liable action. Google? The original programmer? The owner? The government? There's no real target of the blame when a self driving car decides to kill its passengers to save a deer on the road because it thought it was kids, and Google decided the kids lives were more important than the passengers when teaching the AI.
You are right that it will take trial and error to tune how the AI should prioritize unusual traffic accidents.
However, regarding terrorist attacks via software updates:
They will not be able to do that without corporate espionage AND a takeover. Because updates would be cryptographically signed with a private key that only one or a handful of top people at the car manufacturer would have. Any update would have to be signed with that key.
And the cars would update via the central website, so attackers would need both the crypto key and have full control of the update server.
And the server itself would be using HTTPS encryption to ensure there can't be Man-in-the-Middle or impersonation attacks.
This is logical stuff that they will definitely be dealing with to ensure the car software is safe.
As for badly coded updates, that's a concern but I am sure regulation of the industry will help.
Perhaps. Perhaps companies will successfully lock down their update process to avoid any nefarious acts.
Or perhaps it'll remain as unsecure as the current locking mechanism on current cars. But that's what it is - a huge maybe. I've never came across a full proof security system.
I've been hearing about trucking going autonomous but in reality, as much as Elon Musk thinks he's a genius and can pull it off, those trucks are carrying tons and tons of weight. To put a fully loaded truck on the road without a driver would be absolutely disastrous.
100% it is coming. There is far too much money in it for corporations. If they cannot solve the problem completely with technology, they will solve it by having special riads or lanes. It is going to happen.
Sure, and one day they'll have automatic surgery machines but until then, a dude in a labcoats gonna need you to bend over and spread em to check for Cancer
You mean like railways? You know, those things that we dismantled in the 1970's for some reason or other.
There are other issues though. A human driver can diagnose and repair a truck better than a robot. A human driver puts someone physically responsible for the load and to be held accountable for issues.
Hell I can imagine stagecoach robbery coming back, since a robot truck would have predictable behaviors and in theory could have any transmissions jammed relatively cheaply. Just go jam a FedEx truck on a lonely highway and run it off the road, and bust into the back.
For the first few years they would still have a "driver". If you want to be a trucker, you're going to be a local trucker in a few years who takes things to and from depots on the highway that the autonomous trucks service.
On the contrary... Allowing meat sacks to continue to pilot many thousands of pounds across our country has already proven to be dangerous. Self driving tech already experiences less issues per million miles driven than the average human driver. I question teslas estimate of 6-7 times safer, but I have no doubt it's at least a little safer.
Every measurement I've seen takes self driving vehicles, place them in ideal conditions, and then compares it to all of America, which includes roads without lines, roads with potholes, roads without pavement, roads with random obstructions, roads without visibility due to fog and weather, roads with snow which hide the lines.
I want to see a self driving vehicle navigate a blizzard on back country NY roads rather successfully and randomly. Then I'll be impressed.
Replacing the safest form of driving (interstate travel) with robots don't make nearly as much sense as handling the most dangerous conditions that humans can't handle safely.
This isn't about navigating back country roads or road construction . This is about moving freight from rest stop to rest stop along a known path. It doesn't (and won't) replace human drivers 100%. But even replacing 15% of miles driven is going to be a major cost savings disruption.
You know, it's really hard responding to something I truly don't care about lol
They'll be used to depress wages, sure, but a computer will never be allowed to have custody of a shipment (meaning there's still a human physically present, just maybe not driving). It's just too easy to fool one (like this situation for instance) and rob it blind, or get into disputes as to who's responsible when any of the dumb shit that could happen happens.
This is very reddit tier thinking. Trucking is not going to be automated any time soon. For the time being it can be a decent career
We are talking about autonomous driving of vehicles that could crush you in your car and continue chugging along as if your crumpled vehicle wedges in the axel isn’t even there.
Automated trucks are coming, but it’s so far off and as someone who works in automation I always laugh when I see a Reddit post on it because they are just so ignorant on what industrial automation actually is and can do.
Trucking is a good career to still go into. Honestly the industry now is focusing more on electric trucks than self driving ones. And how it is with all automated jobs, other jobs are created. Sure, you may have one “driver” monitoring the screen on four trucks that are driving themselves (which I don’t see happening sooner than 50 years) and since due to this we will probably have 4x the trucks on the roads or more we will still have a ton of truck “drivers”. They will just be operators behind a screen.
What may happen sooner than 50 years is trucks will drive themselves on long stretches of highway and drivers take over when a truck needs to exit to go the last few miles to its final destination. This also will still require a ton of drivers.
Lots of people online seem to think we automate stuff to make it cheaper and once it’s automated the machine just runs itself forever. That is absolutely false and in fact 99% of stuff I worked on is actually much more expensive to run once automated, and usually we only automate because we need tolerances or speed humans aren’t capable of.
This guy knows
Let's say it takes 10 years before the end comes. Have you not given up 10 years experience in a career with a future?
its gonna be longer than 10 years
10 years is a long time in technology terms. I am not going to comment on some exact timelines but as I said above - it will end.
Lifetime earnings are strongly tied to career advancement and experience. If someone is 20 today, are you saying it will be good for them to start over in their 30s if it takes that long? You do what you need to do, but it isn't desirable if it can simply be avoided.
How many years before the number of available jobs is lower than the number of qualified people trying to get those jobs?
The livelihood of the trucker doesn't end the day that the last truck is made automated. The livelihood ends when competition among truckers for available work drives the quality of life or salary below a sustainable level.
10 years may be when the first few trucks are running themselves on the road and the squeeze will be started which will never end.
Automated trucking is not going to be a thing at scale for decades to come, especially fully electric vehicles. They're still going to need people to refill them and maintain them on the road which will provide a good transition period for a lot of truckers. By that point anyone entering trucking now could spend time learning how to service vehicles and the learn the business-side of the industry to position themselves well after the transition takes place.
That's a really ironic example. Are you aware that use of capchas is strongly tied to making the robotic AI better at doing just that? It was the entire point of their popularization, just like fun filters on video apps help teach software to recognize faces. And software is GREAT at it now.
Also understand with your first two items...you are strengthening my point. I am saying trucking will come first because it doesn't need to worry about those issues. A truck can drive the same path over and over.
You'd think this would be common sense, but it's nice to see a company backing you up for once.
Jack Burton would do the same thing.
He actually did that.
Lo Pan wasn't as dangerous and crazy as the anarchists/terrorists these days.
It’s all in the wrist!
Great film!
Wish I could shoot lightning out of my hands too...
Haulin' Ass!
Officer: why didn't you slow down? Based trucker: I was doing 75, so I slowed to 70
Report the situation, got it. "Yeah I just saw a feller run over. No I didn't see the vehicle clearly."
Yes ma'am you heard correctly, I said the victim was wearing a BLM tank top, fishnet stockings, heals, blue-no lavender hair. Buzzcut like...earrings, heavy makeup...oh hang on, I think he's coming to
Here are your choices:
Arrested
Beat to death
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I don't think the average American understands the torque and weight of a semi. If it doesn't want to stop, you can't stop it.
Conservation of energy and all that. Bodies in motion want to stay in motion. Physics doesn't care about your feelings.
And that's why Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space.
Floor it.
Any truck driver job openings in Chicago?
Underrated
Attach spikes in the front of your trucks. Feel free to decorate it with authentic skulls.
Shiny and chrome!
Witness Me!
I see no reason why not!
It's common sense. You'd be committing suicide if you stopped.
From june but still based
Never forget what happened to Reginald Denny when he stopped. He was pulled out of his truck and beaten with a brick during the L.A. riots. He survived because four citizens came to his rescue and drove him to the hospital. He suffered a fractured skull and impairment of his speech and ability to walk, for which he underwent years of rehabilitative therapy.
Dont play in traffic, kids.
Got it...go from 70mph to 68mph. "I slowed down to give them time to get out of the way officer."
If anyone tries to stop by vehicle on a roadway I am going to plow right through the motherfucker.
No way in hell am I going to risk my life by stopping.
You mean instead of kowtowing to terrorists, use your 5000-pound weapon to stay safe?
Sounds like a WIN
Makes me want to have one of those license plate flip things. See a crowd, engage license plate, floor it. Make it home, park car in garage until I can take care of the body work.
some states have legit been considering making it legal to plow through them
It wouldn't just be the law I'd be hiding from but the mob as well.
BREAKING: Peaceful protesters stand against racist trains were ran over today while exercising their constitutional armed riot on the tracks. The train conductor was heard screaming "NO BREAKS!" a clear dog whistle to far right-wing extremists.
No breaks , all gas!
So right. Avoid the mob, take another route, turn around, do whatever you can to avoid the situation. But if the mob is coming for you and there's no way out, punch it. Plow through them, get away, when safe deal with the legal ramifications.
I've seen too many videos of people driving through a crowd, going 20' further and stopping. The now even more enraged crowd re-swarms them.
No. Get away.
They're the same picture
They have to do this. Truckers aren't going to risk their life to placate the commies. I know a truck driver who just quit his job because they wanted him to make runs to NYC. Dude said no and quit.
I see sales of brush guards going through the roof.
I would definitely engine break after the first one and get down to a comfortable 35 or so so you can hear the squishing as you drive over dem. God bless Reginald Denny✅
That is what they say also "unofficially" in developing countries in Africa, South/Middle America or South Asian countries. You might get an instant, violent blame mob around your car or truck, looking for an excuse to start a fight. No matter whose fault it was.
I hate that we're at that point here.
Stay safe out there, trucker-pede.
Anyone remember the anti-protestor bus that was built towards the end of Dawn of the Dead? Itd be pretty sweet to have that tour the nation's protest hotspots like a violent Oscar Meyer wiener mobile.
And the attractive girl got cut in half. Solid movie otherwise.
Instruction video: https://youtu.be/fjc2hHg4pfc?t=55
Kek
That's right, SLOW THE HELL DOWN! If you are doing 70 in a 60, slow down to 60 to be sure you are obeying the speed limit. That is a safe speed to drive on the highway.
Slow down means 54mph in a 55 zone right?
54.9
Sweep the leg!!! Under your tires!
I would have responded with this:
"How slow is 'slow'? What MPH is considered 'safe' to both not instantly kill a protestor AND also prevent people from climbing onto my vehicle and attempting to remove me from it? I don't want to be second-guessed by a manager or HR after trying to escape a life-threatening situation. I want a corporate guideline to follow for my own protection."
Nah, that attracts attention.
Probably you go your whole career and never get stopped by a terrorist as the first vehicle at the front of the line.
If it does happen, common sense will dictate not going slow enough to let people jump on and threaten your life.
If I were back in the pack, I would probably seek exit using the shoulder, regardless if there were commies blocking it. You know the old saying: "When ya gotta mow, ya gotta mow."
If they climb on your rig that's what the scatter gun is for
Run over 10 commies get a free coffee
"SLOW DOWN"?!?!?
Sorry, but momentum still equals mass times velocity. If you lose too much momentum running slowly over a large animal, for example, it could end up stopping your vehicle—and, in this case, your life.
RUN IT AND GUN IT, LET GOD SORT OUT THE DETAILS
It's interesting how often objects that seem grounded will go FLYING out of the way when struck with sufficient momentum. Street signs, traffic light posts, etc. Used to watch COPS when it was on (before the nation's youth was systematically taught to hate, fear, disrespect, and attack the police), and they'd have drunk mofos staggering across the street getting blasted by a speeding car and SAILING over the top of that thing, their shoes ending up in another ZIP code, and living through it no problem. "Huh? Wha happm?"
I have no problem if they live through it. Just gonna make sure I do.
80,000 lbs of freedom.
Pig Pen, this here’s the Rubber Duck
I said let them truckers roll, 10-4
"I'M ABOUT TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN!"
Remember to get your sleep friend, trucking is no joke. My first day some lot lizards tried to get me and my trainer to come out of the truck and buy some cologne. Ngl, they were hot asf, but we joked later they wanted to harvest our organs.
Glad I never found out.
StateFarm
Hitting protesters at high speeds may cause some minor vehicle damage.
Just Like a Good Neighbor!