Having spent a little time in the Phish culture, I can assure you so called “hippies” are mostly selfish, cruel, disgusting creatures that will steal from you and screw you over just as soon as look at you, all the while talking bullshit about “be kind and share”. Lots of sad tales of people being robbed and screwed over by their so called “phamily” and left high and dry with nothing or raped in a tent by a bunch of guys while passed out on drugs. My mistrust of “hippies” is based on observable reality.
My experience is most of those cool people will stab you in the back. Even people I knew pretty well ended up screwing me over in one way or another. Just seriously fuck all hippies, man.
Either you're still a child with no life experience or so delusional you can't think straight.
The reason why "stereotypes" exist is because our brains (when they work properly) are meant to group things. It's one of the defining characteristics of the human mind: to recognize patterns. To understand systems and not hang up on the "one on one" struggle of predator/prey.
As with any pattern, grouping or system there are outliers. Some have more than others, of course, but you're almost always right if you recognize the system and adapt to the pattern.
The left's biggest victory in America is somehow convincing most people to stop believing their lying eyes. This "stereotypes are bad" nonsense is how people end up getting stabbed on the street. Enjoy it, I guess...
Okay, I'm really gonna let you have it over this one, as follows:
I've thought it over and: I made a careless comment, downright silly, really, and I apologize for it. You're right about pattern recognition. But I also remember something Elias Canetti wrote: "The leap into the general is so dangerous that it has to be made again and again, and from the same place." I take it that "the same place" is the awareness of the potential dangers of generalizing about people (Canetti was a Jew and I think that's part of what he had in mind). This doesn't mean we don't, or shouldn't generalize. The goal of scientific inquiry is to reach a valid generalization (e.g., a law of nature, such as the instinct to generalize). Without it we couldn't think, period. The point is to do it empirically and with awareness of the stakes.
Also, I'm a Boomer myself and ambivalent and maybe a bit defensive about the rickety old cohort I belong to. I even contradict myself in another comment here.
I was a Govt Mule junkie for ages. Uncle Warren decided to get woke on stage during performances. I tossed all my bootlegs and vinyl in the garbage. Makes me sick when they RUIN something I love like that.
I can believe that but I've also spent a little time amongst Dead Heads and Oregon Country Fair. I've actually had one guy point out to me that I had been walking around in a crowd with my Dead ticket hanging out of the pocket on my backpack. Nobody stole it and I was amazed. I'm sure mileage varies and still think Dead Heads were mostly fools but I didn't get the whole rape and theft vibe. Phish is more for a younger generation and I can fully believe they are bunch of raping thieving fools.
That's the part of it that is so devastating. The vibe is this "hey everyone share and be friendly to each other" and then you go back to your tent and someone has stolen literally everything from it - they "shared" it from you.
Then you say "oh well that was just one time, the crowd here is cool" and then shit like that keeps happening and at some point you just realize "Oh, that's what this crowd is REALLY about!"
You get lulled into this sense of well being, maybe it's the pot, I dunno. I never went to a Dead show, I was an adult while they were still touring, it just never really landed on my radar as something to do. The phish thing for me was coincidental, I made some friends in a new town where I knew no one and they happened to be into it and I kinda got into it through them, but I was always kind of outside looking in. I was never a long hair dirty hippie type. Occasionally kids in the lot would mumble "Five-O" when I walked by because I was a little older and had short hair and didn't dress like a shithead. Honestly I only ever kinda liked the music.
But hippies are hippies and so many of them are people living on the outskirts of society, don't work and just sort of float around as long as they can without having to really work or commit to much. There's plenty of people who are just regular folk or college kids that go to the shows and have fun, some of them even have "long hair" but I wouldn't actually call those guys "hippies". Those regular folks, sure they're cool.
Having spent a little time in the Phish culture, I can assure you so called “hippies” are mostly selfish, cruel, disgusting creatures that will steal from you and screw you over just as soon as look at you, all the while talking bullshit about “be kind and share”. Lots of sad tales of people being robbed and screwed over by their so called “phamily” and left high and dry with nothing or raped in a tent by a bunch of guys while passed out on drugs. My mistrust of “hippies” is based on observable reality.
I feel you 100% on that one. I’ve met a lot of cool people on phish lot...I’ve also met a lot of assholes.
My experience is most of those cool people will stab you in the back. Even people I knew pretty well ended up screwing me over in one way or another. Just seriously fuck all hippies, man.
Either you're still a child with no life experience or so delusional you can't think straight.
The reason why "stereotypes" exist is because our brains (when they work properly) are meant to group things. It's one of the defining characteristics of the human mind: to recognize patterns. To understand systems and not hang up on the "one on one" struggle of predator/prey.
As with any pattern, grouping or system there are outliers. Some have more than others, of course, but you're almost always right if you recognize the system and adapt to the pattern.
The left's biggest victory in America is somehow convincing most people to stop believing their lying eyes. This "stereotypes are bad" nonsense is how people end up getting stabbed on the street. Enjoy it, I guess...
Okay, I'm really gonna let you have it over this one, as follows:
I've thought it over and: I made a careless comment, downright silly, really, and I apologize for it. You're right about pattern recognition. But I also remember something Elias Canetti wrote: "The leap into the general is so dangerous that it has to be made again and again, and from the same place." I take it that "the same place" is the awareness of the potential dangers of generalizing about people (Canetti was a Jew and I think that's part of what he had in mind). This doesn't mean we don't, or shouldn't generalize. The goal of scientific inquiry is to reach a valid generalization (e.g., a law of nature, such as the instinct to generalize). Without it we couldn't think, period. The point is to do it empirically and with awareness of the stakes.
Also, I'm a Boomer myself and ambivalent and maybe a bit defensive about the rickety old cohort I belong to. I even contradict myself in another comment here.
Anyway,
Peace, Pede.
You are right of course but I'm pretty sure the person you responded to was joking.
lot of assholes on a phish lot of assholes on a phish lot.....
Hippie is short for hypocrite.
I was a Govt Mule junkie for ages. Uncle Warren decided to get woke on stage during performances. I tossed all my bootlegs and vinyl in the garbage. Makes me sick when they RUIN something I love like that.
I can believe that but I've also spent a little time amongst Dead Heads and Oregon Country Fair. I've actually had one guy point out to me that I had been walking around in a crowd with my Dead ticket hanging out of the pocket on my backpack. Nobody stole it and I was amazed. I'm sure mileage varies and still think Dead Heads were mostly fools but I didn't get the whole rape and theft vibe. Phish is more for a younger generation and I can fully believe they are bunch of raping thieving fools.
That's the part of it that is so devastating. The vibe is this "hey everyone share and be friendly to each other" and then you go back to your tent and someone has stolen literally everything from it - they "shared" it from you.
Then you say "oh well that was just one time, the crowd here is cool" and then shit like that keeps happening and at some point you just realize "Oh, that's what this crowd is REALLY about!"
You get lulled into this sense of well being, maybe it's the pot, I dunno. I never went to a Dead show, I was an adult while they were still touring, it just never really landed on my radar as something to do. The phish thing for me was coincidental, I made some friends in a new town where I knew no one and they happened to be into it and I kinda got into it through them, but I was always kind of outside looking in. I was never a long hair dirty hippie type. Occasionally kids in the lot would mumble "Five-O" when I walked by because I was a little older and had short hair and didn't dress like a shithead. Honestly I only ever kinda liked the music.
But hippies are hippies and so many of them are people living on the outskirts of society, don't work and just sort of float around as long as they can without having to really work or commit to much. There's plenty of people who are just regular folk or college kids that go to the shows and have fun, some of them even have "long hair" but I wouldn't actually call those guys "hippies". Those regular folks, sure they're cool.