posted ago by MAGA_PIPEMAKER_420
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Now that Harris has been picked as the nominee, GEOTUS could secure the win by issuing executive action de-scheduling Marijuana.
Rub it in the public's faces how many people of all races have had their lives destroyed by corrupt cops like Kamala Harris over something as innocuous as a plant.
If not executive action, we should take it up as a pet issue and a campaign promise to end prohibition.
If he can get the left to come out against marijuana legalization, that will fracture their base and Trump will pick up a lot of support.
Now that Harris has been picked as the nominee, GEOTUS could secure the win by issuing executive action de-scheduling Marijuana.
Rub it in the public's faces how many people of all races have had their lives destroyed by corrupt cops like Kamala Harris over something as innocuous as a plant.
If not executive action, we should take it up as a pet issue and a campaign promise to end prohibition.
If he can get the left to come out against marijuana legalization, that will fracture their base and Trump will pick up a lot of support.
User name checks out... I'm not a big pro-legal weed guy, it just seems something else democrats can tax and doesn't stop the illegal market. That being said I would support an exec order if he left it up to the state and it wasn't on the federal list.
It being federally illegal and all the states having varying levels of tolerance is the situation that ensures the black market is able to continue.
Make it legal in all states and federally, and the incentive to ship it across state lines(from legal states to illegal states - the current state of the black market) disappears. Also, USA grown weed is far superior to Mexican import, so the market will deal with that. Plus build wall.
Yes, I am biased, but I'm also correct.
I also would like to see it be federally legalized and see Trump be the one to do it!
The problem is it splits his base in a critical period. Its stupid and outdated thinking, but the generational divide on this is simply too stark. More boomers gotta drop dead before this can be a reality, unfortunately. You also have the "bible belt" voters that will not go for this. The smart play at the moment is what Trump is doing - the "states rights" approach. Let the states decide and the feds mostly just let it happen.
A smarter move would be to wait until after he is elected again and pass an EO to legalize weed federally, making banking possible as well for the people in the cannabis business. It would piss off some of his supporters but it would be irrelevant at that point. The man would be a hero to most of the nation. Even the people who hate him would be happy to see weed legalized federally. It's one of the only things when discussing Trump with liberal friends that they would be happy to see him do, lol. He could cure cancer and they would still hate him... legalize weed and "well actually... that would be cool of him to do!".
I live in a medical/recreational state and its GLORIOUS. I wish the entire country was like this and I could travel the US in my car carrying marijuana on my person and it would be fine no matter where I go. I hope I live to see that one day.
my guy read me a story last night; a veteran was prescribed medical marijauna in a western state...nevada? road tripping to the east coast, stopped in al. arrested by some cop after a confrontation at a gas station, was playing his music loud. no actual crime. stupidly gives cop permission to search car, thinking he's safe bc he has a va 'scrip. nope. arrested, convicted, now in jail for 60 months. THAT is wrong. and unfortunately, since i live here in this gorgeous (but sometimes backwards) state, i can see it going down just like this. the pot laws here are stupid. drink like a fish all you want, but by Gawd, don't you puff on that evil weed. we can't get a lottery voted in either; everyone drives over to ga or ms to buy their tickets.
I spent over a decade getting drunk every day. 3 years ago I used herbal medicine to kick booze, then I kicked herbs. I totally agree--booze is at least a degree of magnitude more dangerous and harmful than weed.
A degree? Something like 100 thousand people die a year from alcohol. Weed is zero. Ever. In the history of humanity, zero marijuana related deaths. That being said, I’m not a legal weed proponent, or opponent. But one thing is clear, alcohol is literally a poison and your brain literally has cannabinoid receptors in it that only cannabis can activate. So take that for whatever you want lol
No, not "a degree." A degree of magnitude. (ten times.)
I realize weed doesn't kill, but I also know that pot smoking has stunted a lot of people's growth. I've seen that with several of my burnout friends. My own brother's life improved exponentially when he quit smoking weed and he'll be the first to tell you that stuff was a major hinderance.
I had never heard about it stunting people's growth before. Just looked it up, it's a real thing.
The pot heads I knew in high school were pretty short. They were shorter kids in elementary school too. Before right now, I had never considered there to be a link.
My pothead brother's life got better after he sobered up too. Still can't get him to commit to a trade though. He wants to continue to work his bullshit factory job and second job at a parts counter.
Lot's of things activate those receptors.
You right. I haven’t given a fuck about weed in over a decade so my knowledge is still from my teenage pothead years lol
I’ve never smoked weed and never will. I’m also a born again believer in Christ. And yet this is why I believe in legalizing weed.
I mean tobacco and alcohol are way worse and yet they are legal. It makes no since that a NATURALLY OCCURRING PLANT IS ILLEGAL
If you framed Cannabis as a Gift from God and showed the medical benefits to the bible belt base, I'm sure they would come around.
I think for them it's mostly lack of knowledge on what it can do to really help people.
A lot of people in the bible belt smoke cigarettes you can frame it that way too.
CBD oil usage and proponents are growing in the bible belt already. People are not nearly as divided over this issue anymore as some people on the right seem to think.
Can confirm, my 70 year old conservative mother hates weed.... because it makes innocent people go to jail. Thats literally the only reason she doesn't want people to smoke it, cause where she lives its illegal and she doesn't want them to go to jail. She says it is way less harmful than alcohol, except for the consequences from the law.
They call it biblical oil.
I'm in the heart of the biblebelt and they sell cbd gummies at the gas station and bed bath and beyond has a cbd diffuser lime the essential oils ones. I think its pretty much gone mainstream.
remember, jesus was "annointed with oil" that contained hemp oil!
Easier to just wait them out at this point or, simply let the states do as they wish. I'd be fine with states declaring it illegal within their state if they so choose, even in the event of fed legalization. I'm very pro states right and if that's why they vote for - so be it. Its their state, go ahead and leave all that sweet tax revenue to neighboring state if you wish.
My boomer parents were potheads before they got married. Not hippies though.
I don't think it's outdated necessarily. I think the issue is our younger generation has been brainwashed to think weed is some harmless mircacle drug.
Having said that, if you want to get addicted to marijuana (yes I said addicted), that's on you. It's a shame and I know first hand the big weed smokers I knew from High School and College for the most part haven't amounted to much.
Whether that's a symptom of the drug or the type of person attracted to the drug, I don't know. (And I'm very aware this an unpopular opinion). So I'm pretty torn on the issue. I don't like encouraging the use of mind-altering drugs, and whether we admit it or not, legalizing weed on a federal level does exactly that. At the same time, I don't like seeing it ruin people's lives by incarceration.
edit: Are we reddit now? Voting based on agreement rather than discussion?
The addiction mentality, marijuana, alcohol, cigarettes, has little to do with the actual drug. Those people will just as easily get addicted to a slot machine or a video game. It's really weird to see so many people pull up the exact same arguments that landed us in the prohibition.
Yup. Used to be a pot smoker, haven’t for decades but currently am hopelessly addicted to TD.win!
This is indeed a tired old argument. Millions upon millions of people smoke weed daily and have do so for years and function just fine. It is an outdated approach.
Treat it like Alcohol and be done with it. Tax the shit out of it and fund something useful to get something positive out of it.
Losers will be losers with/without weed/alcohol/ect. Personal responsibility is key and keeping it illegal causes more problems than it solves and wastes LEO resources and time.
The state is not everyone's nanny and if you decided to fuck up your life with using drugs irresponsibly - that's on YOU and nothing else.
SOME drugs should indeed be illegal, namly narcotics. Such as Opioids for example. Things causing DEPENDENCY with abuse should be heavily regulated. As in someone becomes so dependant on the drug it may KILL them to stop suddenly.
Nobody has ever died for marijuana withdrawal.
Psychological addiction (what you are talking about) is something much milder and easy to manage if it gets to that pathetic stage. Generally people grow out of this as its a teenage/college phenomenon.
Millions of people don't function just fine either. It is very similar to alcohol in that respect. I mean we can extend this argument to cocaine and heroin as well. How "libertarian" are you?
I think you're lying to yourself if you believe people aren't developing dependencies to marijuana.
Like I said, I'm torn on the issue, but we shouldn't pretend it's harmless. And that's the most frustrating thing about it, as soon as anyone speaks negatively about weed, it's like the sky falling. A swarm of users show up pretending it has no negative impact on their lives (or anyone else).
That's simply not true. I was speaking to a friend yesterday who was literally explaining how dependent he is on the drug... how he has smoked too much and has a really hard time without it.
People become dependent on it, end of story. And yes you're right that psychological dependence shouldn't be the reason for banning a substance. Let's not over-simplify the issue.
But there are studies that back me up, like the New Zealand studty showing heavy smokers in teens led to an average loss of 8 IQ points by 38. Was it the drug or the type of people attracted to the drug? It has also been shown to lead to paranoia, and schizophrenia. It's a gateway drug. Is that the drug or the people attracted to the drug? Would that go away with legalization?
These are all appropriate discussions to have. I can't stress enough how much I'm against incarceration for minor offenses like marijuana possession. That does more harm than the drug itself. I'm just not a fan of legalization either, at least right now i'm not...
California did make terrible choices when deciding the legalization laws. If I remember right, they have so many additional taxes there that dispensary weed is like twice as expensive. There's restrictions on where dispensaries can open, so not everyone even has access to them. I could definitely see the way they did it, improving the black market because 1: you don't have cops busting people for weed anymore (it's hard for them to tell where exactly you got it), and 2: so many taxes!
Alcohol is a mind-altering drug. You ok with drinking?
So is meth. You ok with meth?
You ok with aspirin?
I see you agree your point is ridiculous.
I think it's greatly dependent on the person taking it. While I definitely know some people who use it frequently are lazy, that doesn't go for everyone. I tend to use it most days, likely for the last 3-4 years, and I run my own IT company, while working part time for another IT company. I also study electrical engineering in my spare time. This also can go for some other mind altering compounds as well. Well I never would touch certain things like meth, heroin, or really any other opiates, I've actually found psychedelics such as acid and mushrooms do wonders for my mental health. I used to have terrible anxiety, that I basically haven't felt at all since my first full dose trip on acid. I've also found that very small doses of acid (around 7.5ug, normal dose is 100ug) allow me to concentrate better, get more done, and learn/pick up new complex concepts faster when taken in the morning on a 1 day on 2 day off schedule. It seems to give me more control over my mind, so to speak, without any of the traditional effects like visuals at those low doses.
I think it should be federally legalized. I think Trump has the same beliefs. He's mentioned it several times in speeches and rallies.
Trump was also caught on a hot mike in Mar-A-Lago (leaked by WaPo) saying he was concerned with teens having unfettered access to cannabis if it were 100% legal. He stated his concern was studies that suggest it decreases IQ if used heavily while in the teen years.
One study I tracked down suggests a loss of 6 IQ points. That's pretty significant. If true, I must agree with him that this is a big problem. But this also brings to light other potential issues with complete legalization.
I also think he agrees that it's a state's rights issue, so we have a problem there with wanting to actually protect children vs. constitutional freedoms. We also have to consider the legal ramifications for teens caught with it illegally by being minors. Kids will be kids and will find a way, just as they do now in non-legal states.
I do think it's an absolute must for medical to be legal federally and in all states.
Never going to happen... Have you seen how regulated alcohol is by states? It will be just as regulated if not more, and taxed to hell. Ever been to NY and seen the guys selling cigarettes on every corner? Why? Black markets will fill the void for people unwilling to pay the states high taxes on regulated products... If you think legalization reduces or eliminate crimes you should check some of the states that have done it. Now they just rob the dispensaries at gun point... I'm just pro legalization cause i'm f'ing tired of hearing about it.
I live in a legal state. It is taxed to hell but even after taxes, most product is quite a bit cheaper than when it was illegal.
If you think a guy selling loosies on the corner is the same level of crime as transporting bulk across state lines, I don't know what to tell you.
As far as dispensaries being robbed, that's a symptom of the federal ban also. These businesses are cash-only because the banking system doesn't want to violate federal law.
Not to mention, just becausesomething is attractive for thieves is no reason to ban that thing.
That didn't happen in Canada, let me tell you, lol. There is a new black market reforming because the distributors who wanted to actually go legit were so overtaxed they couldn't even afford it, while the consumer side (that you can actually get shipped right to your front door) costs so much, it's still preferable for many to return to their old dealers.
Doesn't help they added a ton of new punishments for driving while impaired, they can even test you up to two hours after you were last seen in a vehicle and tag you for driving impaired if you had anything in that time period.
Shit are you serious? That sucks, I had always heard it's way cheaper. I am not in a legal state but i used to smoke a ton, and that was our exact price per eighth.
Yesss that's what I want when we get legal pot in MN!
Can get grams of decent herb for $5 and up in a shop. High quality condentrates (dabs) start around 15/gram. That's in oregon. That's less than the old black market 50/8th
The crime is related to having so much cash on hand as they cant use traditional banking. Also, regarding taxes - Ill pay it. I live in a medical/recreational state and its glorious. I'll pay extra for a convenient and legal exchange in a safe location. I'm too fucking old to meet a dealer in a 7/11 parking lot after 5 hours of phone tag like im 16 again, no thank you. Dispensaries have home delivery, menus with a wid selection and details on the THC/CBD content of the product, professional staff, RECEIPTS, topshelf bud and exotic THC extractions, and rewards programs. Any adult that is not a hood rat and has disposable income would prefer this. Hood rats want under the table bullshit and "cigarettes on the corner" style transactions. usually because they are broke as shit or don't have a steady income stream. Civilized people want a civilized, safe, and convenient transaction. Dispensaries provide this at a nominal extra cost.
what, you think there is a black market for alcohol right now in this country? lol
Moonshine is popular in my neck of the woods.
Not to mention the massive problem of Mexican gangs growing weed in national parks. You can examine the water coming out of Cali watersheds and you find massive quantities of fertilizers and pesticides coming out of what SHOULD be uninhabited forest.
Nothing but legalization will stop the illegal market. There's demand, there will be supply.
I live in Colorado and I buy exclusively from the black market. The black market isnt going anywhere, ever.
The scheduling needs to be addressed. It is retarded. Even if you hate weed, objectively the scheduling is wrong.
It's funny those immersed in it don't see how ridiculous it looks from outside.
That's not to say I support the status quo. I don't think the fed has any business regulating a plant - the states, maybe.
But the vibes put out by many of the current users (taken as a group) have a good amount of influence on why it's so difficult to change the laws. They are their own worst enemy.
You shouldn’t downvoted, you’re exactly right. If you’re prone to schizoid or bipolar tendencies, weed is NOT going to help. It’s fine for most people but not those types. I have seen it in real life.
I agree it shouldn't be schedule 1. I'd honestly put it on par with cigarettes, but *only * after there have been some rigorous peer reviewed studies that document the effects, both good and bad, with some specificity. Until then, it ought to be more controlled (than cigarettes) because, frankly, we don't really know the effects of modern weed since no one can study it in depth due to the scheduling. It's not the same plant it was 50 years ago due to the selective breeding and that ought to be reflected in how it is legalized.
But can we agree that there's nothing like a good stoner comedy. I don't smoke the wacky grass, but those movies are hilarious.
LEGALIZE WEED!
It is harmless. The war on drugs is a bunch of bullshit. Do you even know how much we pay for people in prison for silly little marijuana offenses? It’s absurd.
Should be a states’ rights issue, schedule I is objectively wrong.
This is exactly why it needs to be simply descheduled. Democrat states and Canada both jumped on this "legalize it" bandwagon by not actually making it legal at all. What they did is make it hyper regulated and taxable to create a government run monopoly. They advertised this ultra corrupt system as "legalizing it" and it's as bullshit as the name on any democrat bill.
Simply decriminalizing it, without creating a regulated taxable market, would pull the rug out from under them in more ways than one.
I can't stand the stuff, the smell, the way people act on it, and even worse, the way those people act when OFF of it. But it's a fucking plant, it should be peoples own choice. It's ethically no different than alcohol in any way shape or form, and all the problems in society that can be traced back to the black market for it were there with the prohibition too.
Anyone who wants to make an argument about cocaine, or morphine, or meth can point to the near instant chemical addiction, and the incredible danger people high on those drugs cause to society, as well as the physical toll it takes on the body. MJ has never been anywhere near the same class of drug and should not be treated any differently than alcohol.
People want to grow it in their gardens and trade it with the neighbor for some fucking zucchini, let them.
I think the proper middle ground is decriminalization on the federal level with the thinking that it's up to each state to decide. This way it doesn't damage his base at all. It's not an endorsement, just another regulation that he's doing away with because it's not really the federal governments job to begin with. Just another thing used to waste taxpayer money on a bloated and ineffective federal agency (DEA).
win fucking win MAGA
I don't think he even needs to legalize it. He only needs to drop it down on the schedule and commit to not raiding places in states where they've legalized it.
You'd be surprised. I was downvoted in this thread for saying the exact same thing.
This!! ^
Easiest fix is to declare it is no longer a Schedule 1 drug.
I agree.
Who in here doesn't? Maybe a few old dinosaurs that would still prefer to vote for Bush again. But I doubt they're here on this site
It's a start is right. It would be very smart to deschedule federally and leave it to the states. This would be a total game changer.
And watching the lefties freak out about it would be hilarious.
I'd rather have Trump legalize work than weed
People need to figure out that wanting something to not be illegal is not the same as thinking that something is a good thing and that it's OK for people to do it.
Weed shouldn't be illegal.
Also, people shouldn't smoke weed.
I could say the same thing about a lot of other things like alcohol, gambling, and nicotine. I think that using those things is a universally bad idea, but using the heavy hand of the government to prevent people from doing these things isn't the answer.
Amen fren,
Lots of “freedom lovers” here don’t grasp personal responsibility. Alcohol has a much more negative impact on our society but I don’t see anyone saying “let’s bring back federal prohibition “ because it denies the individual the right to decide for themself.
They don't support prohibition because it already failed. But only for alcohol. People don't connect the dots. Just wait for the legalization of prostitution conversation or sex bots or whatever.
Every "vice" is a new argument to have because it violates a new goal post for someone here or there.
😁😁😁 I thought about that last night.
Not a huge pro-weed guy but we spend to much throwing people in prison and ruining lives for, as you said an, innocuous plant. No Trump supporter, no matter how anti-drug, will switch sides if he legalized it but we could get people over to our side. I know some pot heads who would base solely off weed laws. And hey.... maybe the weed taxes can go to the wall.
I 100% agree he should De-Schedule Cannabis. He already did Prison Reform which has helped lots of people unjustly punished, serving sentences.
If he removes the criminal penalty from Cannabis and released everyone jailed for non-violent cannabis crimes.
It would be a MAJOR blow to the DNC.
And would shine an intense spotlight on Kamala Harris for her evil bullshit.
Not to mention locking people up for consuming a plant that was created by God, is just wrong.
Yes.
Why not abolish the ATF and DEA while you're at it?
I don't smoke it... never have. But have FOR SURE, seen first-hand, the amazing palliative/ restorative effect it had on my father as he was dying of cancer...
Same here, I used to smoke every day. It killed my productivity and I was brain fogged 24/7 even when not using it. In some ways I think it's worse than alcohol because it seems "milder" to people so they think they can use it all the time, because it's "just a plant". Still for legalizing it tho, but I think we should have a lot more education on how it ruins your brain.
I don't even smoke or use any products but the different strains and growing techniques absolutely have different ratios and different potency levels of THC and CBD
yes
I fucking hate weed and weed culture. Stoners who make their entire existence out of being high all the time are just as bad as gays who make their sexual orientation their entire identity.
That being said, Trump absolutely should legalize it and tax the shit out of it. Rebuild our coffers and win in a landslide we haven't seen since Reagan.
Weed is a jogger drug.
"So I am going to direct DEA to look and to make a determination to find out whether marijuana should be reclassified from Schedule 1. Schedule 1 can you believe that folks? The same as heroin, fentanyl...from China can you believe that? The wall."
Trump wins
It would be the dankest EO in history. :-D
This is the PRIME reason why people don't vote Republican. they look like a bunch of nerds.
if you are against legalizing Cannabis you hate Freedom and are un-american . Straight up...
It not dangerous at.
That might be the November surprise :)
This is one reason why I am not loyal to Republicans. They say they are for limited government, yet haven’t made this damn plant legal already. These two are a huge disconnect for me.
Anti-pot pedes are cracking me up on here. Would any of you care to make a good case for alcohol prohibition OR explain to me how weed is worse? Let’s compare fatalities. “All the potheads I know are lazy” is shaky ground for keeping a plant illegal federally.
Yes yes yes. https://thedonald.win/p/Fz1vcIC6/to-the-trump-staff-that-lurks-he/
The single biggest problem with marijuana is the apathy and complacency that it brings with it. Weed will not make you crazy and will not make you violent. It will make you apathetic, lazy, complacent, and content with whatever is going on around you. I can see the big push to legalize it. It will make the population more manageable.
everyone on weed is big corporations & dems wet dream.
Yup. Not much dissent when everyone is too high to care.
fake news! lazy people will always be lazy... doesn't mean we should keep a plant illegal
I agree but it goes far beyond being lazy. Not trying to argue for keeping it illegal. Just sharing what I’ve experienced. I think the plant itself has many more positives than negatives but in a society that is so hell bent on controlling you the apathy alone, especially if multiplied throughout society, takes away from a lot of the positives.
It is up to the individual user to use responsibly
It sounds like an argument made by people who want to keep it illegal
Put down the bong and start living your life.
I have a wife, kid, another on the way, great job, and a comfy house. I love my life
I don’t smoke everyday like I did as a teenager, but its nice to have on hand should one want to kick back and relax.
Why do you care how other people choose to live? I will admit stoner culture is cringey and i would not want my kids to smoke as much weed as I did as a teen/young adult. But it should absolutely not be illegal
Some of the most successful people in the world use cannabis on a daily basis.
There's plenty of other legal substances that can achieve the same result as what you described.
Alcohol and Pills for instance.
no one deserves to be locked up for consuming a natural plant
I was once the same as you. Thankfully I noticed my folly and grew out of it. Do what you want. I’m not here to say right or wrong. As with anything moderation and control are key. Something not many are capable of. As good as I thought I was with it, I found a higher level of being without it. I know you and many others will keep on justifying it regardless so I will leave you with some seasoned advice. If you must do it, keep it to once a week or it will diminish you and rob you of your potential. Respect your body and mind and they will compliment the soul within. Disrespect them and they will work against you.
I smoked weed every day for far, far too long. A total waste of time and life. When you're constantly flooding your skull with dopamine, you will miss out on life.
You'll never fall in love and feel that feeling. You'll never create anything of lasting value. You watch as years go by and nothing happens. Nothing changes.
When I quit weed my life did a 180. Got married, now have a family and a life. I tried to smoke a few months ago for the first time in years and got all anxious and uncomfortable. That's a sign from your brain that you have more to offer than this.
Similar experience. Thanks for sharing.
you're not wrong but how would you even know that if you hadn't saw both sides to begin with?
Look at europes and most of the worlds drinking ages and culture.... then look at Americas. It's a cultural thing and forcing kids to hide their weed and booze just forces them to do so unsafely or wait until they're old and should be done learning they are better off without it, or at least practice moderation.
everything in moderation. Even exercise becomes detrimental at some point.
My dude, I agree with you. Just sharing what I’ve learned after a lifetime of use. If you ain’t sharing, you ain’t caring. Take that from whatever angle you see fit.
On a group level that just isn't the case. We have good evidence that weed causes motivation and memory issues, sometimes permanent across a population that uses it. Some people still succeed despite it, just like some people can succeed while being habitual cocaine users.
It's still something that isn't completely harmless and needs to be look at honestly.
Do you think the marijuana that you smoke is the same thing as the marijuana plant that naturally developed?
Marijuana had been selectively bred for literally thousands of years to become what it is now.
Marijuana today isn’t really any more natural than heroin or cocaine.
You can make this argument with almost every vegetable and fruit and grain you can name.
This is absolute bullshit. Unless you're talking about some jogger rapper. People who smoke weed every day are not productive. They never do anything that lasts.
The choice is yours. Smoke weed every day and believe that "one day" you're going to be super successful like all the other super successful pot heads, or put down the bong for a while and actually start accomplishing shit.
I agree with you and quit smoking for that reason, but weed is already easily available to those who want it. The only thing legalization will change is defunding criminals, increasing tax revenue, and ending all the money and lives we waste locking people up for possession.
And I agree with you. There are far more reasons to legalize it than not. Was just mentioning what I feel is the big push for legalization is. I think the plant itself is a resource for many things and people should be able to use it as they want but there are consequences to everything. Just pointing out what those consequences were for me.
so we will continue to enforce freedom infringing laws based on the lowest common denominators?
How is alcohol any different? I have the life experience and responsible use of that to know i should only indulge once and awhile and not to over do it because it's terrible for me.
People will get off work and have 1-3 drinks every night, throw on the tv, and waste away their life.
We could do that right now, weed can do that to. But i won't do either ever. But i'd like to have the option because America fuck "you" (not you) haha.
Making weed illegal all came about from a racist known by the name of Harry J. Anslinger in the 30's. I still don't understand how something that hasn't had a death caused by the intoxication of said substance is illegal when things that cause thousands of deaths a year...maybe hundreds of thousands...can be bought OTC or at the local grocery store.
Reschedule it and at least have it in the “right to try” act.
This is genius. Someone tell trump
I think your city being burned and voting for the left is scarier than marijuana to traditional Republicans
If he comes out pro legalization he will win a lot of left voters. Pothead-Pede here, I know so many single issue voters in the cannabis culture (I hate cannabis culture) who would cast a vote just to be able to get 50 state decrim/deschedule. I’ve been saying for years Trump could use it as a tool in so many ways including campaigning. Now IS a great time to really fragment the left. Between Kanye and weed legalization, the only folks remaining to vote for Biden/Harris are gonna be the Yuppies, the communists, and the pedophiles.
They would implode
This is a smart idea! Upvote!
This is another issue that should be fully up to the states. Like it or hate it, if a state wants to legalize, the federal government shouldn't be getting in the way.
He can just declare it legal and dare Democrats to oppose it.
Great idea
Dude, youre getting a Dell!
TRUMP 42020
Well, simply drafting a bill in the House and watching the Democrats shoot it down would be equally effective. I think the states should decide on this, personally.
Like alcohol and tobacco?
Just lower it on the schedule list from sched 1 to sched 3 or 4.
I agree
In agreement with you on plant based narcotics tbh. I don't care if people want to do drugs but I live in CA in a major city surrounded by the results of lifelong drug addiction so I'd like the coddling of junkies walked back and people be punished for being useless drug addicts while we dial back the justice system on weedlmao..
Stoner pede here, let's do it
I hate the argument weed is just a plant. So is Peyote, Poppy, and Coca. If you want to argue weed isnt that bad, or that it is too severely punished there is an argument to be made. However arguing it is a plant is asinine.
My argument isn't that it's "just a plant".
My personal argument is that prohibition is antithetical to anybody who calls themselves a conservative.
Conservatives don't ask Big Government to suppress small businesses and interfere with individuals' right to the pursuit of happiness. See the 9th amendment.
Idk if its the Conservative argument, but I personally support it as a libertarian. You can huff paint, engage in cock and ball torture, and play shitty games like League of Legends. I wouldnt recommend any of it, and its not good for you, but as long as you are not hurting anyone else, I think you should be free to do it.
But not 'because its a plant.' ;p
That is a legitimate, philosophically sound argument.
I think you have a good idea. Its bold and Trump likes to be bold. But, it will split his base. However, his base isnt going to vote blue so it would do the trick of getting more of the black and young people's votes.
no one will give a shit is he deschedules it / leaves it up to the states. He isn't outright condoning it or embracing it. Just getting rid of federal over reach.
Win win.
No trump voter will leave for that, only gains.
Unless you're a THC enthusiast, and you've been somewhere that went from illegal to legal, you'll never understand how important it is.
I started smoking weed in the 90's, dirty, dry, crumbly, dusty, who knows what was added to it before me and my stoner friends got our hands on some.
By the late 90's, and as we all grew older and got to know more people, we got access to higher quality stuff. We were happy to have something better, but it was still garbage compared to whats out there now.
We were smoking giant blunts of garbage just to barely catch a buzz, destroying our lungs, feeling like shit...
Eventually i got access to medical marijuana and my life completely changed. I could get a very top shelf quality product that i know is clean, wasn't dosed with a bunch of crazy chemicals to get it to grow... and now i only needed to smoke a tiny piece of it to catch a nice buzz i can enjoy.
The only way i can describe it is imagine if the entire country was getting blind drunk on bathtub vodka... then one day someone sets up a distillery to make high quality stuff that isn't going to kill you.
The higher the quality, the higher the potency, the less carbon particulate people have to inhale in order to achieve the same goal.
If you believe in states rights, which we all should, then you should support the federal government rescheduling marijuana to a class 2 drug at least. Currently it's a class 1 drug meaning it can't even legally be studied without special permission that is near impossible to get. States are breaking federal law right now allowing recreational marijuana use, and if the wrong person gets in charge they can send in the feds the next day to completely shut the entire industry down and throw thousands of business owners in jail while they steal all their property.
Prime example is a state like Michigan who has had some serious issues (in Monroe county in particular) where a corrupt cop went against state regulators and ran a scheme where they were essentially robbing the growers under the guise of a federal taskforce (M.A.N.T.I.S.).
They raid you, steal anything they can sell, smash all your equipment, even cut all your wires with bolt cutters... then just leave you with a massive fine for their "trouble" and dare you to complain about it. One grower caught them on video bragging about and calling dibbs on all the cool stuff as they were stealing it...
took one guys entire tool collection because he was growing some plants for personal use in his basement... the tools he uses for work... thousands and thousands of dollars worth of his livelyhood all because he wanted to grow his own plant that he smoked from time to time to relax and feel better after a long day of working.
Trump rescheduling marijuana will completely bust the wheels off of the Horrible Harris's plans. Listen again to her getting blasted by gabbard on the stage... listen to what Horrible Harris was about to say when she got cut off... "thats why i'm in favor of decriminalizing marijuana"
Horrible Harris is going to promise it, Trump needs to make the case for it before she can.
I'd rather the government make it's money in taxes, than make it's money by incarcerating people and stealing their property and money for inhaling the smoke of a harmless flower.