don't want to burst anyone's bubble.... but as a general rule - if patient is brought to the ED by squad with CPR going - the patient is always considered "alive" (mostly for billing purposes) even if he is cold and was dead for hours....
The term Ante-mortem signifies before death and mentions the sickle cell trait was not noted in the blood test at 9pm but was noted post-mortem as is expected for someone with sickle cell.
question of oxygen saturation - it could be difference of 10-20 minutes - obviously don't know his case - what level of HbS he normally had and so on.
But the ante-mortem doesn't mean much - as I tried to say in the first comment - if the ED wants to get paid for what they did (blood draw, intubation, epinephrine and so on) they can not EVER say that the patient was dead on arrival....
No, they aren't. You aren't getting the timetable of how medical procedure works. Until the doctor declares someone dead, they are antemortem. Doesn't matter how cold the body is, until the doctor's say-so, they aren't officially dead.
The time on the paperwork is just for the paperwork.
From what I heard, he had no pulse at the scene, as recorded by the officers and EMTs. So he was officially declared dead at the hospital, when they couldn't revive him.
Old George has been completely dropped from the news. It used to be you couldn't see a single story that was nor prefaced with a description of abusive cops killing a black man.
don't want to burst anyone's bubble.... but as a general rule - if patient is brought to the ED by squad with CPR going - the patient is always considered "alive" (mostly for billing purposes) even if he is cold and was dead for hours....
The term Ante-mortem signifies before death and mentions the sickle cell trait was not noted in the blood test at 9pm but was noted post-mortem as is expected for someone with sickle cell.
question of oxygen saturation - it could be difference of 10-20 minutes - obviously don't know his case - what level of HbS he normally had and so on.
But the ante-mortem doesn't mean much - as I tried to say in the first comment - if the ED wants to get paid for what they did (blood draw, intubation, epinephrine and so on) they can not EVER say that the patient was dead on arrival....
Seems like the blood smear was taken at 9pm. As Belleoffreedom posted, the video of him on the ground is during daytime.
The incident occurred at 8:20-8:30pm.
Thanks for correcting me, I assumed it was earlier based on the amount of daylight at the time, but it was summer (or almost).
Don't nobody care what time his aunt died!
What time was it, In the video of his death? That video looked like it was taken in full daylight.
Bodycam video shows 20:30 he was in the ambulance getting cpr.
The mainstream media? Lying? WHY I AM SHOCKED, SHOCKED I SAY!!
No, they aren't. You aren't getting the timetable of how medical procedure works. Until the doctor declares someone dead, they are antemortem. Doesn't matter how cold the body is, until the doctor's say-so, they aren't officially dead.
The time on the paperwork is just for the paperwork.
Watch the video, they started CPR once he was in the ambulance.
From what I heard, he had no pulse at the scene, as recorded by the officers and EMTs. So he was officially declared dead at the hospital, when they couldn't revive him.
Right. Declaring someone dead requires a doctor's word, and an attempt at resuscitation. It's a procedural thing.
from what I heard he couldn't breathe
He couldnt breath while standing up, either. Funny that.
he may have been having a panic attack.
Could have been the drugs.
Or his heart attack may have already started.
Might want to pick up some asbestos underpants while you can. When the cops aren't sentenced, you're going to need it.
Old George has been completely dropped from the news. It used to be you couldn't see a single story that was nor prefaced with a description of abusive cops killing a black man.
Now nada. Zip. Funny how that always happens!