The way I've come to see it compared to how it was presented to us months ago is, basically, that it's just a nasty flu. I wouldn't want to catch it. But, then, that doesn't say much because I don't want to catch anything. Even then, we HAVE treatments for it. If I did get it I'd just ask my doc to hook me up with some dat hydroxy and zinc.
You do want to catch it depending on your age. Catch things young while your immune system is still working full steam. You develop antibodies that remember and can stop new strains in advance.
We have no idea how long immunity lasts. I was deliberately given chicken pox, it totally ruined my first Christmas vacation from school. Not only did I not miss a single day of school but now I'm at risk of shingles which runs in my family; it's the same virus. Of course we have no idea if anything similar pertains to this disease and hopefully it doesn't. I'm just saying viruses do some strange things to people. We don't really know if "getting over" CCPvirus means no more virus exists in your body, if it lives there forever like some other viruses, or what.
Your natural immunotherapy scheme there works every bit as well if you just get a normal cold instead of CCPvirus, since we can't differentiate between the immune response.
Adult strain chicken pox, NOT shingles, but the pox, is quite nasty. You may be susceptible to shingles (which has readily-available treatments, by the by, if you're specifically at-risk, do take note of them), but if you are, you REALLY don't want chicken pox as an adult.
We’re talking common cold, not chicken pox. No vaccine for common cold as it mutates constantly, so no “vaccine” for novel coronavirus to stop COVID19 symptoms.
In other words open the country up fully and stop dicking around.
I agree with opening the Country up. More emphatically, it's horribly irresponsible that on April 1 we didn't open at least all Counties with 0-10 total cases, and use the data we'd have gotten about any second wave to determine how much to open by 4/15. I could see not opening large cities until everything around it was under control. This approach would've not only helped our economy tremendously, but now we know the progress towards herd immunity is the best way to fight this.
DJT is taking high risks both with "letting" States decide their own restrictions, as well as deciding how to handle plannedriots. I'm glad he's following the Constitution and haven't seen him encroach upon it. I don't know the legality of him taking a more hardline stance. I wish he could override Governors on the HCQ ban though. If we weren't prevented from that, CCPvirus truly would be no big deal. At least 95% of all deaths would be prevented, most people would be virus-free in 6 days and all breathing problems are gone in 2 days of treatment. Really hard to die like that, also hard to spread it.
This would make both masks and vaccines irrelevant.
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You can get zinc OTC. Another zinc ionophore is Quercitin, which is also generally good for our immune system. Dr Z put out a protocol for preventative use: I forget how much Quercetin, but 25 mg elemental zinc per day. Zinc comes in several forms, and converting that form to how much elemental zinc is important to know how much to take. (I think he suggested 200 mg quercetin once or twice a day, but try looking it up. Anyway he did phrase it that way, so it's not a critical amount)
I don't believe this is as good as HCQ even just as a zinc ionophore, and it certainly isn't anti-viral against CCPvirus as HCQ + azithromycin proved in vitro, but the idea is at least it's something. And it would disrupt the virus' ability to replicate.
Another interesting factoid is almost everybody with the advanced stage of the disease is vitamin D deficient.
An attorney can't do a fucking thing for you here. If you die you die. Exactly as 40+ Governors want it. If an attorney does you any good anywhere, I'd love to know how ...
Refer to smirking while peacefully MAGA. It's all about documentation. If not documented, didn't happen.
So what I would do if I tested positive for COVID:
Ask my doctor to prescribe me HCQ + Azithromycin
[DR refuses]
Ask DR if it is his/her own well informed personal professional decision, or if is the the policy of his employer or someone else for them to not prescribe the drug which appears the be the only available prophylaxis / early treatment.
[DR explains.] Dr. is f-cked either way.
Ask doctor to prescribe me brand name Viagra
[DR writes the prescription, because Pfizer. Woot woot.]
Say goodbye.
On way out . stop and ask Doctors staff for copy of the detailed physicians notes for the visit.
Let them know I'll wait a few minutes for the copy.
[Dr. needs to write those notes accurately during or shortly after visit].
Receive them. If they are incorrect, or "missing" any important details of the visit, ask them to make my medical record represent the visit and request/denials for treatment.
If I were to suffer needlessly in any way, whatever the Dr. writes to indemnify themselves is not enough. They risk that any day the efforts hide the truth about HCQ will collapse, leaving them exposed to lawsuits. And I would make sure they know this before they provided the visit notes.
If it's a HMO or big medical, expect to wait a long time and probably wind up talking to Chief of Medical Staff for some additional bullshit explanation. Ask them to include that discussion in the notes as well. Really if it went beyond my Dr. though (i.e damage control), I'd start recording.
Maybe YOU can - I cannot. I am very glad to hear it is possible. I suspect both the prescribing Dr and the filling pharmacist are subject to losing their license, which is obviously a horrific injustice. In WI you can't get it even if you've depended on it all your life and will die without it.
This does vary by State. Some States have made it legal but less than 10. I'd have a 14 hour drive to get to one. God forbid I wind up with a positive test result, I'd make that drive even though I don't know if they'd treat an out of State resident.
Bruh, measles has most of the same symptoms. Similar symptoms =/= same virus.
It isn't a "cold" or "flu". The problem is that "coronavirus" is an entire family of viruses, and that the antibodies these tests look for are not designed to be specific to a particular species of virus. Antibodies typically follow an "induced fit" rule, meaning that if a virus is "close enough", they will attach to said virus. Since SARS1, SARS2, MERS, and the four or so different human coronavirus species that can cause the common cold are all part of this same family, their surface membranes are likely similar enough that these antibodies will react the same way to all of them.
I've read a lot of things. From "it's a pneumonia but different because it attacks both lungs" to "it gets in the blood and frees the iron in hemoglobins, leading to hyperemia, and putting patients on respirators is the wrong way to go about it because no matter how much oxygen you put in their lungs, there's not enough hemoglobin to transport it when symptoms show up and they get diagnosed" or even "it can attack nerves as seen in patients who have lost the senses of taste and smell".
I've read the articles on the hemoglobin attack.
I still haven't seen anything that refutes that theory.
I will say, I've seen plenty of evidence that Covid 19 is a Blood disease and not a respiratory disease. (The bi-lateral "pneumonia" is a symptom of the problems absorbing oxygen) Once your cells are infected with CV-19, the underlying trajectory of bad symptoms is always the same, regardless of if you call it a respiratory disease or blood disease.
The main symptom that causes the downward spiral is the reduced O2Sat.
Once your O2Sat starts dropping, organs that need the oxygen start weakening which reduces the body's ability to fight the disease, which causes your O2Sat to drop even further.
If you have CV19, just monitor your own O2Sat with a simple, inexpensive, small, reusable, battery powered device called a Pulse Oximeter. If your O2Sat starts dropping below 95%, then you've got a slight problem. See a Doctor, get HCQS if you can.
If you wait until the O2Sat is in the 50's, you've got a serious problem and these are the folks they put on the ventilators which don't do anything except exacerbate lung issues.
This is different from the common cold and flu, but most of the time it's not serious at all.
The only thing that seems to be backed up by the information is that it can cause pneumonia. That's why the steroidal breathing treatment was looking promising and the original focus on ventilators.
The rest seems to be fear mongering or due to the bullshit of diagnosing EVERYTHING as covid death. However, I don't know much about the mechanics of
viruses and perhaps that's something that happens when the virus gets too far along without being killed off.
Ask yourself, if all of those crazy things were true.... wouldn't the many millions of people who tested positive had some symptoms sending them for testing rather than the fear driving them to the mass testing facilities?
They're saying that strains of coronavirus are associated with the common cold which has been a thing before SARS-CoV-2. The antibody test doesn't seem to be specific enough to differentiate SARS-CoV-2 from other strains of coronavirus.
Exactly this. It's not that SARS-CoV-2 is the common cold (it's not; colds are caused by a variety of things from coronaviruses--around 20%--to rhinoviruses), it's that the IgG/IgM tests can't differentiate between it.
That means that all the estimates they've done based on previous penetration of this virus are completely untrustworthy. So this idea that there's as many as 10x the number of people who are positive based on antibody assays is almost certainly bunk. We have no way of knowing.
That means it's not an admission this is less serious than they're claiming. It's that they're actively lying to us about either the extent of the virus and its spread, its infectiousness, or both.
Thank you, this is the best explanation posted so far. I was going to post something similar.
Depending on the source, 15-25% of common colds worldwide are caused by one of four coronaviruses that have become endemic in the human population (there are more, but they don't affect people). I don't remember the origin, but they have mutated to the point that they are mostly benign.
10-40% of colds (again, depends on the cited source) are caused by a rhinovirus. 20% are caused by RSV or parainfluenza (which is different than influenza, but can be severe). Another 20-30% are caused by an unidentified virus.
If you had a cold "recently" and it was caused by a coronavirus, it MAY have conferred some amount of immunity to COVID-19 (and may be one of the factors on the severity of your illness). And as the previous comment says: the similarity between COVID-19 and a common cold coronavirus may result in a falsely positive COVID-19 antibody test.
But, I don't think anyone is intentionally lying, other than perhaps the Misleadia. The people doing these tests and compiling the data know and understand the limitations. But, by the time it makes it to CNN, it's trumpeted to uninformed viewers (on CNN, that's all of them) without the qualifiers.
The number of death young than 18 years old of influenza during 2018 is 634.
The number of Covid death is 414 for those younger than 25 years old.
The number of Covid death is 746 for those younger than 35 years old.
You know how ridiculous to not open the k-12 schools and the colleges because of the safety of the students.
You know how ridiculous to say that we cannot open the school because of the safety of teachers only make up for a fraction of the school services and can be simply replaced by younger teachers.
health authorities are trying to kill as many of us as possible. And they're doing a damn good job of it. Over 135,000 that they claim died due to CCPvirus, did not have to die, statistically speaking. Now of course we have no idea how far off their reported numbers are but still, you're talking a minimum of 95% of those who died being preventable.
Notice this is different from people working in healthcare; I don't believe they actively try to kill their patients. It's the authorities, many layers of bureaucracy above them. It was perfectly obvious to me when the antibody test results first came out that they had no way of knowing if antibodies they found were specific to this virus. If I can know that, they certainly did!
They feed the misleadia disinformation, and it's not because they want to save lives. None of this is about public health
I think people make the mistake of assuming health care professions are unbiased robots who don’t have personal agendas or emotions. I’m sure there are many people in various walks of health care who secretly want this to be bad so they achieve political wins both legislatively and at the polls.
As I mentioned before, the RT-PCR tests are pretty accurate since they match specific RNA sequences in the virus. That much certainly isn't in question.
What is in question is how they're representing the antibody assays.
The problem I have isn't so much with the labs or the workers who are testing. It's in the bureaucracy. We know that a number of these counties/cities/hospitals are hurting for money. If they can find a way to pad their COVID-19 patient count, and get money for it, there's almost no way to guarantee that they won't.
That's wherein the rub lies.
Suffice to say I don't trust, e.g., NY.
It's not just limited to COVID either. I know of someone who went to hospital, was diagnosed with something fairly minor, and they were trying to push an expensive surgical intervention because they're hurting for cash right now. He declined.
Knowing this, I get really surprised to hear somebody get negative result. It is actually very difficult to get negative result unless you've never had any cold-like symptoms. I've had at least 4-5 times I felt like I had a cold because I got some coughs and sinus annoyance since November or something. I got a cold last November which lasted for a few weeks, and had some symptoms 3-4 times since the end of March, which went away in a few or even next day.
I will be surprised to see if I have negative now. I should get positive if I take the test.
The sad thing is that the RT-PCR tests are fairly accurate because they match a specific sequence of the viral RNA.
If they're combining questionable IgG/IgM testing to pad the positive results, this is a travesty because it means nothing is trustworthy at this point. They're tossing science out with the baby and the bathwater.
Because of that and what you described, I'd imagine two outcomes: If they're just using a RT-PCR test, you'll probably turn up negative. If they're using the antibody assay, you'll probably turn up positive.
Bonus third outcome: If they need money, you'll turn up positive.
I have a cold at the moment (as do my two kids) and got tested a week ago. All three of us came back negative and it only took three days to get the results. I was honestly rather surprised.
I want to say that the way cases were counted changed to consider every positive antibody test as a new case. They were in essence counting COVID cases that very well could have been someone coming into contact with any given coronavirus, in that case.
As I mentioned to another poster, the RT-PCR tests are pretty accurate. If what has been posted here is true about the antibody tests, then they're deliberately muddying the water to pad results.
I provided facts. You viewed them as me defending something. I was simply stating the way things are.
SARS-CoV-2 is beyond the common cold in terms of its virulence, but it is absolutely being overblown by the media. People of higher age and others with co-morbidities do get hit pretty hard by it. Younger healthier people handle it fine, statistically speaking.
We have no way of arguing the numbers, because hospitals have been fabricating the damn numbers for covid relief bucks. As low as they report, they are drastically LOWER in reality. Not even a normal flu season.
Fauci did exactly what his masters paid him to do. He is Satanist cabal scum, just like all of them, and he executed his mission flawlessly. He simultaneously convinced big businesses to torpedo the economy while giving states the green light to flush civil liberties down the toilet.
It was the Globalists wet dream, and they convinced everyone to LET them do it. No arguments, very little pushback, not a single shot fired and they got exactly what they wanted. Then they got to ice the cake with their manufactured riots.
Fauci didn’t fuck anything up. He tried, and failed, back in the 80s to do the exact same thing with AIDS. Too many people were still awake back then, too many people still able to think for themselves. He was close to getting away with it, but in the end he failed. Why do you think he stuck around so long in government? He had to redeem himself to his masters.
He couldn’t stand failing in his duties, and he finally pulled it off. Watch as he rides off into the sunset after November.
Like a Vampire, or most kinds of evil, they can’t inflict the harm on you directly. They have to convince others to do harm or convince you to harm yourself. Everyone has free will, given to us by God himself. That’s how you know COVID is bullshit, because they convince others to inflict the damage to economies, shut down businesses, wear masks. They just provide the illusion that the weak minded need to get on their knees and beg for their own captivity and servitude.
Fauci succeeded, and unfortunately no one stopped him. He succeeded wildly in his mission. Look around you.
Glad you're better! As far as we can tell, by looking at it the same way the disease does, the one risk group is oxidative stress. This includes old age, diabetes, high blood pressure, and morbid obesity. Probably some other things I don't know about.
One way we can tell health authorities aren't doing anything to try to save lives is they never told us what we can do to boost our innate immune system, or how important antioxidants are with this. It's all the same whether we're trying to stay healthy or fighting off the infection. There's no way a mask does that much good, and certainly HCQ used correctly does a lot more good, but even that won't work so well in a person with an immune system weakened by lockdown.
It's a cold that can cause serious symptoms in the old and frail. That's why it killed so many in nursing homes but it only killed them a few weeks or months earlier than they would've died otherwise.
The flu can kill a bunch of people, and it does, but like covid 1984 most people have no to very mild symptoms.
I was supposed to have a medical procedure done but they said I had to have a CV screening before. I cancelled it and told them why. I'm not going to be entered into the government database with their case tracers and other bullshit. I haven't been sick with anything, but it could come back positive because we know they're being disingenuous and even falsifying lab results.
Then they would be contacting my family members who could then have their jobs at risk. I'm not playing their game and that procedure can hold. On that same note, the gal I spoke with at the medical office was based and completely understood my reason for cancelling. She knew exactly what it means to be screened.
People have actually been KILLED due to false positive tests, negative tests, and about every other situation that involves being ventilated for no sane reason.
Like most of us here, I'm not a tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist. At the very beginning, I was uncertain about the virus and what it really was. It was then revealed to those paying attention what it became, a political tool for society manipulation.
There is NOTHING about CV the media or government (feds, state and local) can tell me that I would believe. I distrust all of them. I do trust Trump because I believe he's really trying to find a way out of this that is quick and doesn't involve any tyranny or destruction of the economy.
This just happened a good friend of mine in late July, There was a prison outbreak so they forced all the staff to get tested, He tested positive despite having zero symptoms meanwhile his wife and their kid tested negative but the state(CA) sent the whole family(including his parents since he visited them a few days prior) orders with each of their names printed on them saying they have to spend 14 days quarantined or face a fine or jail. THE ENTIRE FAMILY. Meanwhile my friend tested negative 6 days later. So that potential fake positive caused 3 people in the family to have to give up their jobs for 2 weeks family friends had to go to the grocery store for them since they had a CA order saying they are basically under house arrest.
We know this shit is going on. I'm in Texas and I still don't trust any of them right now. Spend a little time here on T_D and you pick up a lot of information that's not covered by the media or is being completely suppressed. We're also good about providing legit, based sources to information and that's what makes T_D such a great place!
I'm not disagreeing with you, but a lot of people don't understand the difference between an antibody test vs. the test to see if you currently have the virus.
The antibody test in particular is the one that can't differentiate between coronavirus and SARS-CoV-2.
Don't be torn. And don't think the malice is limited to merely inflating numbers, spreading panic. We have TONS of evidence of what they're up to:
Fauci does have financial interest in medicines that compete with HCQ. Which doesn't mean he isn't serving the agenda to kill as many of us as possible.
Cuomo isn't the only one who denied sick people medicine. Fewer than 10 Governors let people have HCQ as an outpatient! Here in WI you can't get it even if you've been on it all your life and failure to get it can kill you. He claims he has nothing to do with it and blames it on the medical boards. The Governor of SD proves that one Governor can stand up tot he bureaucracy and WIN.
Cuomo isn't the only one who put CCPvirus patients in the same ROOM with healthy people in nursing homes as a permanent residence. Half the Nation's dead came about this way.
If they cared about public health, they would've immediately told us that lockdowns are the worst thing for our immune systems, and what to do to strengthen our innate immune system.
Plannedemic came before failed shampeachment ended. Had DJT not been distracted, he could've responded better.
Plannedriots came as plannedemic was losing steam, and predictably created the recent spike. Age 29 and younger have TRIPLE the numbers they ever did before! Yet health Officials cover for it, all doling out the same message that was obviously planned in advance.
I doubt even most County or Federal Health Department workers know the difference either. LPN nursing doesn't go very deep into hard science, and I'd bet most nurses brain dump that shit as soon as exams are over because most of their job is more about treatment and paperwork procedure versus in-depth hard science.
Same goes for most of the doctors too. I'd wager the majority are family practice specialties, which doesn't exactly require one to maintain any kind of detailed knowledge on virology and/or immunology. They fix booboos and ouchies and give yearly shots. Anything requiring more than that, they send up the chain to a specialist.
Not really, they just report the numbers they're given. None of them have the hard science background required in order to "verify" anything. None of them are healthcare workers, they're bean-counting administrators.
PCR test is also plagued with false positives. Even the inventor of the test said it’s especially susceptible to false positives (false negatives do happen but the nature of this method skews far to the false positive). Every test has the potential to give a false positive and it’s heavily influenced by the tech that runs it. If you run enough cycles there is a point where it will throw a positive.
This is dangerous in so many ways. Let's assume the virus actually is deadly for the sake of argument. False positives will allocate much needed resources to people who don't need it, including contract tracing on someone who never had it. False positives could swing the mortality in either direction. If they test everyone in the hospital, someone dying of plain old renal failure or cancer with a false positive would increase the mortality rate. On the other end, routine testing of healthy people would decrease the "mortality rate" since they obviously can't die from a false positive.
Basically, garbage data leads to garbage conclusions.
Garbage in, garbage out. Apparently, the Abbott test is the best method but it’s expensive. Trump did mention wanting to get the Abbott test far and wide. Best part about it, no back if the nose swab. Also, you can get results in 15 minutes.
It depends on the jurisdiction. My county health department does not include antibody tests. They only report confirmed COVID-19 cases, with the nose swab and a PCR.
I won't claim my entire state does this, because I don't follow the 200+ counties. But, my state mandates that all confirmed cases require a PCR test. They have a separate classification for ""probable" cases, and a positive antibody test is only considered "probable" if the symptoms meet the clinical criteria.
Some counties in my state may be combining "confirmed" and "probable" cases in their reporting. But, my county does not.
Yes, you did. I was expounding on your point, using my particular county as an example.
My county health department posts a summary of confirmed cases and confirmed deaths on Facebook every day. And nearly every day, someone that just started reading it asks about antibody tests.
I think the person making the health dept. post has a copypasta to reply every time: "No, we only report confirmed cases. We do not collect or report antibody test results".
Spez: state guidelines permit the use of antibody tests to count a case as probable, if the patient is also exhibiting symptoms at the time. But, it's not clear (to me) if all counties are excluding it from the new cases they report to the state every day.
I was absent when this happened, can you link me to a source for the double counting? I can see where the false positive accusations are coming from but I don’t know where the double dipping accusation is coming from. I assume this was covered early when I wasn’t active.
It's worse than merely double counting. tons of people got out of line instead of waiting hours to be tested. They were given positive test results.
Tons of Drs have sent off 6 tests that were never used to get tested, and had them all return positive.
We should be going by Dr diagnosis, and immediately giving medicine to those at risk. This could've been brought to a screeching halt in March! 40+ Governors are mass murderers. We should file class action lawsuits, both civil and criminal, against their every act of tyranny. Then physically remove them from Office under citizen's arrest for mass murder.
That video is over 2 hours long and I'm not saying it's not worth watching the whole thing. 16:15 shows a screen shot of one major problem. 15:30 introduces this speaker, who is a purple haired land whale that starts at 16:00. Or maybe that's a Muslim head covering over more normal hair? Either way, we see what it takes to peddle this bs.
Easily multiply actual cases by 10. Deaths? Who knows, but it's exaggerated and many Drs from all over the Country have come forward about this.
Look at the total death rate from all causes and we are below 2019 and all other recent years. That could not happen if we were dealing with a deadly pandemic.
Yep. But in a lot of states, testing positive means quarantine. Mandatory. I've had no flu or cold symptoms since this all started, so I haven't bothered. I just think it's too risky.
The hilarious thing is - and fucking maddening - is I get allergies, most of the year. I can take OTC like Flonase, and I'm fine, but if I forget, then it's sniffles and teary eyes, the whole deal - and morons think I have covid. IT'S NOT FUCKING COVID, I'M NOT COUGHING, MORON. So i carry a bottle of Flonase, instead of a phone.
You're lucky. I normally get allergies, and don't respond well to medication. Fortunately for me that's only during growing season, which is short in WI. Labor Day is typically my worst.
The initial spread of COVID-19 to my state from NY/CT/NJ (and the rest of the US) coincided with the start of spring allergy season. Due to a mild winter, the crap in the air was much worse than usual, and people that normally didn't have significant allergic reactions were experiencing them for the first time. So, a lot of people were panicking. But, a couple of days of Zyrtec and Flonase was all they needed to get it under control.
If I don't keep my allergies under control, I get a lot of sinus drainage into my throat while I sleep, and the irritation causes a dry cough during the day. I carry a bottle of water if it gets too bad.
I also cough as a side-effect of (3-seasons, ugh) seasonal allergies.
I don't smoke, but instead of trying to explain to people the process behind allergies and an immune system because most people without allergies seem incredibly uneducated on the subject, I just say "smoker's cough, don't fly into a tizzy".
There was video of an epic smack down from a Californian man fed up with the lockdown bullshit and he told off his city council with this. Why lockdown when 99% of healthy people have immune systems that neutralize the virus.
“This is not a crisis, but you have created one. You have us panicked over 51 total hospitalization in a county with 8 hospitals! can you people even do basic math?! In an attempt to end all deaths, you have ended all relevant life”.
It's a misdemeanor to not socially distance in my cucked county in California. Nobody really gives a shit though so lol. The vast majority of people in my town don't wear masks when exercising at one of the schools. Kids are doing sports training and stuff. Fuck these stupid regulations.
Had the Rona. I had a headache, runny nose and total loss of smell. Felt better after about two - three days of symptoms but smell is still returning and pretty much almost back to normal.
Spilled gasoline on my hands and literally couldn’t smell it. Shit was wild.
I had trouble smelling earlier this year, maybe I had it. I was taking at least 2k IU D and a bit of daily zinc at the time just in case so maybe that's part of why I had almost no symptoms.
It is not distinguished who dies WITH and who dies BECAUSE of Covid19.
Deceased humans are often NOT even tested, on CDC's advise, it is "valid" to determine COVID19 as death cause BASED ON SPECULATION (no test needed).
Even if tested, tests have 50-80% false positive rates. Meaning that testing multiple times gives out random results. Negative, negative, negative, positive, negative, etc.
Patients are tested multiple times until "positive" appears.
Even if you take the fake statistic's death numbers, of world wide 700.000 deceased "due to COVID", you get a 0.0079% death rate for total world population (as of July).
rounded up, Covid-19, the "most dangerous virus in our lifes" had officially caused
Don't think socialism is the end goal. that is OWG, One World Government. Make us all paupers and serfs, going back to feudal times. these same sick fucks invented capitalism and communism as ad hoc concepts to push this so that all the world's resources would be controlled by as few as possible.
And they have the mindless horde on the street doing their bidding, when a few years ago they were Occupy Wall Street.
Granted, the transition might look like a socialist takeover, or a Chinese takeover. Their plan is worse.
CORRECT! This is both a RNA virus and a coronovirus. Never has a vaccine been possible for either. Never has a vaccine been more than 90% effective. Dr Zelenko's protocol is 95 - 97.4% effective
Spending a dime on a vaccine is worse than stupid, it's all done for show to advance their evil agenda.
I was just thinking today: I don't remember any of the things we're currently dealing with happening during H1N1. We didn't shut the entire country down and force an economic depression on ourselves over it. We weren't shamed and treated like heretics for not wearing masks in public. It was just business as usual. I remember hearing that there was a bad flu going around, but that was it.
So why has the reaction been so drastically different this time? Is this the new normal? Are we going to have to commit economic suicide again every time some new bug comes around? Am I going to have to walk around wearing a germ-infested face diaper for the rest of my damn life, even if I'm not sick?
edit: according to the CDC, influenza kills between 12000 and 61000 Americans annually. Why don't we have to go into total shutdown mode over that every year?
20% of the US caught H1N1. Maybe 24%, which is consistent with the worldwide estimate. Biden's chief of staff said nothing they did had anything to do with it not killing more people. (yet commulibs try comparing Obama's response favorably to DJT's)
The hypocrisy is staggering! where's my killdozer?
Coronavirus is a family of viruses so they share dna. Their point is just because you test positive doesn’t mean you have covid19. Which is why I personally don’t agree with massive wide scale testing. Just test the ones who show suggestive symptoms and bother to come to the clinic to get checked out.
All widescale testing does is show a grim picture to give the people a perception of a deadly contagious disease which is not the reality. So it can be used to manipulate public opinion
That all stopped when plannedriots began, remember? Between that and plannedemic they can save the rest of their deadman switches as long as possible. They want their never to be another election.
This is what I figure based on personal experience, anecdotals accounts, and all this back and forth data...
At the initial release, COVID was real, and it was nasty, weird, and highly contagious.
As time went on, the virus started to mutate away from its lab-created potency. (Think of it like a purebred dog population left to interbreed in the wild.) This created branches of related strains that each showed some of, but not all, the aspects of the original strain. Some cause loss of smell, some cough, some diarrhea, etc. Some are more severe than others.
In the late stage, where we are now, COVID has now mostly regressed to a "wildtype" coronavirus, meaning that the various strain genomes have stabilized to a potency and virulence on par with non-engineered viruses.
This theory explains the greatly varied accounts of COVID symptoms and severity, and it suggests that this version of the virus was "rushed out" from the lab before the genome was fully stabilized.
These are but a few ways of boosting our innate immune system, which was weakened due to lockdown. If health Officials cared about public health, why didn't they tell us about this?
Biggest public health scam ever perpetrated on the American people. By now people seem so set in their ways, it’s been over 5 months, a lot of people I meet are on my side, but at this point, good luck convincing any mask Nazis that it’s a scam. They’re in too deep.
I would like to add.... you know how Facebook is declaring it "fake news" that people are getting fungal infections from wearing a mask and breathing your own recycled dirty air? Well, that does happen and I know a 70 year old lady who got falsely diagnosed COVID and they said it looked bad for her. Then the family thought she had a fungal infection from her mask.... took antibiotics... better/home in 2 days!
Also, I have proof it lowers your oxygen levels especially with those that have existing lunch problems/smokers.
"Also, I have proof it lowers your oxygen levels especially with those that have existing lunch problems/smokers."
It's not the mask. It's the underlying conditions associated with lung disease and with smoking.
I wear a mask 12-16 hours a day. It's a bit stuffy normally, and very uncomfortable when we have to code a patient. My O2 sat stays above 97% even after multiple rounds of chest compressions, and so does my co-workers.
yes, I jumped the gun. My proof is with people with underlying problems wearing a mask. But some places are saying they don't care if you have asthma you must wear a mask. When the gyms were opened, a member with asthma got walked out by police for not wearing his mask and he wasn't even within 6 ft of anyone. I just get frustrated with the tyrannical enforcement of it all.
The issue with the infection from the mask is that you’re suppose to wash them or let them bake in the sun to kill off other types of bacteria that will collect.
Leaving them hanging in the sun, in the car, is totally fine... but you’re still going to get them dirty with the impurities and oils on your face.
This is what I said as soon as antibody testing came out and everybody here was so sure so many had it. How do they know an antibody they find is specific to CCPvirus?
ANSWER: they don't. They just know your body killed off something like that. So let's spend all this money to create serum from people who had a cold. If that works, GREAT. But HCQ is cheaper, and works for almost everybody.
Aside from this being weaponized, there will never be a "cure" or "vaccine" because we've never been able to cure the common cold to begin with. This will haunt us forever.
Well here’s the thing. He got sick in April. They didn’t have tests then, so they just told him he probably had it and to stay home.
Later took the antibody test and had antibodies for it. When they donate, the donation center said 2-6 months immunity, but I guess he still has enough and qualifies to donate.
The whole thing is really suspicious because (correct me if I’m wrong) once you have antibodies to these types of viruses, you are immune for life. You only “re-catch” them if they mutate. Even for diseases that can come back, usually its decades later (like shingles from the chickenpox virus). I have never heard anything about any immunity that lasts that shortly, and I read quite a bit about stuff like this.
I didn’t want to spend too much time grilling him because he’s a casual acquaintance, but it doesn’t add up for me.
Well this whole plannedemic doesn't add up except that globomohos want the US to fall, which is a goal they've been working towards since 1913 with the creation of the Fed.
As it happens my Mom deliberately got me a case of the chicken pox in 1969, on my first ever Christmas vacation. I was miserable the whole time, and didn't miss one speck of school. Every female on her side of the family spent their last many decades of life miserable with shingles, and it's the exact same virus. So I'm prone to that problem, and developed some persistent nasty symptoms since lockdown started. I'm 5 years too young to get the vaccine, and haven't found any other treatment. And a vaccine with symptoms is probably a bad idea generally. Which is to say I've looked into all this a LOT since February.
Anyway, the common cold is something we beat only by the normal human immune response. The old saying goes you get over a cold in 2 weeks without medicine, but with medicine it only takes 14 days. We catch a cold again precisely because said immunity is not lifelong. How long immunity lasts varies, but generally after recovery we're weaker, not stronger. So it is possible we develop antibodies to CCPvirus that aren't lifelong, aren't complete, and who the fuck knows really.
It was always wrong to claim no human has any resistance to this. It's 78% the same as either SARS or some other coronavirus I'm not sure which, and our immune response is apparently identical to ALL of it. Which is what I suspected from day 1 of antibody testing being announced. So whatever is being learned about this is being mostly obscured by disinformation, and that is quite obviously deliberate.
From what I’ve heard, the shingles vaccine is pretty nasty.
I’ve heard good things about lysine supplementation. It works to suppress viral replication of herpes viruses (same family), and there are promising preliminary studies for shingles treatment.
I like to read scientific studies on google scholar for my data. Might be a low cost/low risk treatment option for you.
Wow! Lysine has promising preliminary treatment for shingles treatment? Now you're talking my language :) OTC, cheap, no risk of side effects
Yeah since I've got weird neuropathy that even might be associated with shingles, I'd hate to try the vaccine for fear of flaring it up when otherwise I might be able to beat it and not suffer with it.
Sort of difficult to find original studies, but here’s one I found:
Studies indicate that the process of VZV replication extracts lysine from the blood stream. The virus attempts to use lysine as it would use arginine—to make protein VII, an arginine-rich protein component of the viral core. However, this attempt fails. Thus, lysine acts like an arginine substitute, “fooling” the virus and preventing it from replicating and causing outbreaks.
I'm literally just getting over a cold, and thankfully it doesn't look like my work is gonna require a 'rona test. If people who weren't even tested are getting positive results, I'm like 95% sure if I got tested they'd say I'm positive.
A small part of me wants that so I can say "yeah I had Covid. It was a bad flu like I get every year, NBD." But on the other hand I don't want to deal with all the potential crap I might have to with a positive test. 2 week quarantine? My family have to quarantine? Who knows what else; no thanks!
Every person I know that got a positive test was later told after other testing they were negative.
2 have told me that when they did the contact tracing call/form that their entire family was listed positive (potential) so if we just talk about those two, that’s 10 false positives right there.
They don’t go back and “fix the data”. And they don’t tell people they changed what the “data” is starting July.
It’s bad science at this point and they should be ashamed to use the word “science” when attacking people.
How long does a virus stay in your body? Not the stupid coronavirus, which the internet keeps bringing up when I search, but just any virus in general? Is there a set time before it leaves the body? Is it always there forever?
That was my understanding as well. So it would be safe to say, if you have had a common cold (coronavirus) once in your life, you will probably test positive? Seems fishy.
So did they just lowkey admit that the tests have been identifying ANY coronavirus?
The way I've come to see it compared to how it was presented to us months ago is, basically, that it's just a nasty flu. I wouldn't want to catch it. But, then, that doesn't say much because I don't want to catch anything. Even then, we HAVE treatments for it. If I did get it I'd just ask my doc to hook me up with some dat hydroxy and zinc.
You do want to catch it depending on your age. Catch things young while your immune system is still working full steam. You develop antibodies that remember and can stop new strains in advance.
We have no idea how long immunity lasts. I was deliberately given chicken pox, it totally ruined my first Christmas vacation from school. Not only did I not miss a single day of school but now I'm at risk of shingles which runs in my family; it's the same virus. Of course we have no idea if anything similar pertains to this disease and hopefully it doesn't. I'm just saying viruses do some strange things to people. We don't really know if "getting over" CCPvirus means no more virus exists in your body, if it lives there forever like some other viruses, or what.
Your natural immunotherapy scheme there works every bit as well if you just get a normal cold instead of CCPvirus, since we can't differentiate between the immune response.
Adult strain chicken pox, NOT shingles, but the pox, is quite nasty. You may be susceptible to shingles (which has readily-available treatments, by the by, if you're specifically at-risk, do take note of them), but if you are, you REALLY don't want chicken pox as an adult.
The only "treatment" I've uncovered is vaccine. What else is there?
like you really don't want kung-flu when you are old.....
We’re talking common cold, not chicken pox. No vaccine for common cold as it mutates constantly, so no “vaccine” for novel coronavirus to stop COVID19 symptoms.
In other words open the country up fully and stop dicking around.
I agree with opening the Country up. More emphatically, it's horribly irresponsible that on April 1 we didn't open at least all Counties with 0-10 total cases, and use the data we'd have gotten about any second wave to determine how much to open by 4/15. I could see not opening large cities until everything around it was under control. This approach would've not only helped our economy tremendously, but now we know the progress towards herd immunity is the best way to fight this.
DJT is taking high risks both with "letting" States decide their own restrictions, as well as deciding how to handle plannedriots. I'm glad he's following the Constitution and haven't seen him encroach upon it. I don't know the legality of him taking a more hardline stance. I wish he could override Governors on the HCQ ban though. If we weren't prevented from that, CCPvirus truly would be no big deal. At least 95% of all deaths would be prevented, most people would be virus-free in 6 days and all breathing problems are gone in 2 days of treatment. Really hard to die like that, also hard to spread it.
This would make both masks and vaccines irrelevant.
"Immunity" could be as short as a few months. This is not the chicken pox, unfortunately, and that's what makes this really shitty.
You can't get HCQ unless you live in one of a very few States.
I’ll buy some off the darkweb. Lol
Hook a pede up!
Search for Empire market. Use VPN, follow the instructions. They warn you if the site you’re on is legit or not. If it’s not empire market .onion it’s fake. There are sites that will link/help you get to the real ones.
Hadn't though of that. Clever
Yeah. If this actually gets serious you WOULD find it there. Even just browsing makes you feel like a kid in a candy shop.
Huh. Well, you were not wrong.
I guess I will ask my doctor for some zinc and good luck instead.
You can get zinc OTC. Another zinc ionophore is Quercitin, which is also generally good for our immune system. Dr Z put out a protocol for preventative use: I forget how much Quercetin, but 25 mg elemental zinc per day. Zinc comes in several forms, and converting that form to how much elemental zinc is important to know how much to take. (I think he suggested 200 mg quercetin once or twice a day, but try looking it up. Anyway he did phrase it that way, so it's not a critical amount)
I don't believe this is as good as HCQ even just as a zinc ionophore, and it certainly isn't anti-viral against CCPvirus as HCQ + azithromycin proved in vitro, but the idea is at least it's something. And it would disrupt the virus' ability to replicate.
Another interesting factoid is almost everybody with the advanced stage of the disease is vitamin D deficient.
Good thing I am spending as much time outside enjoying the sun as possible.
you can get zinc from wherever don't need dr for that.
I am aware, it was joke.
My boy Craig on the south side can hook you up
Not here he can't
or have an attorney.
An attorney can't do a fucking thing for you here. If you die you die. Exactly as 40+ Governors want it. If an attorney does you any good anywhere, I'd love to know how ...
Refer to smirking while peacefully MAGA. It's all about documentation. If not documented, didn't happen.
So what I would do if I tested positive for COVID:
If I were to suffer needlessly in any way, whatever the Dr. writes to indemnify themselves is not enough. They risk that any day the efforts hide the truth about HCQ will collapse, leaving them exposed to lawsuits. And I would make sure they know this before they provided the visit notes.
If it's a HMO or big medical, expect to wait a long time and probably wind up talking to Chief of Medical Staff for some additional bullshit explanation. Ask them to include that discussion in the notes as well. Really if it went beyond my Dr. though (i.e damage control), I'd start recording.
Actually you can. Doctors are still prescribing it. Only certain pharmacies will fill it though. And this is in Kalifornia.
Maybe YOU can - I cannot. I am very glad to hear it is possible. I suspect both the prescribing Dr and the filling pharmacist are subject to losing their license, which is obviously a horrific injustice. In WI you can't get it even if you've depended on it all your life and will die without it.
This does vary by State. Some States have made it legal but less than 10. I'd have a 14 hour drive to get to one. God forbid I wind up with a positive test result, I'd make that drive even though I don't know if they'd treat an out of State resident.
Bruh, measles has most of the same symptoms. Similar symptoms =/= same virus.
It isn't a "cold" or "flu". The problem is that "coronavirus" is an entire family of viruses, and that the antibodies these tests look for are not designed to be specific to a particular species of virus. Antibodies typically follow an "induced fit" rule, meaning that if a virus is "close enough", they will attach to said virus. Since SARS1, SARS2, MERS, and the four or so different human coronavirus species that can cause the common cold are all part of this same family, their surface membranes are likely similar enough that these antibodies will react the same way to all of them.
I ENVY MUH DEAD
Fauci also said this.
Too bad his worshippers all have short term memory loss
And my favorite “no one healthy should be wearing a mask (in late March)
Gee, why does my crummy Governor Tim Walz have a mask mandate in MN. Why do I get the stink I or booted from a public place if I am not masked up?
I think it's less memory loss and more "TEH SCIENCE IS ALWAYS CHANGING!!!"
This basically allows the left to claim they’re always right. Muh science changed. Now some women have penises.
It's actually a pneumonia, but any upper respiratory infection will have the same symptoms.
I've read a lot of things. From "it's a pneumonia but different because it attacks both lungs" to "it gets in the blood and frees the iron in hemoglobins, leading to hyperemia, and putting patients on respirators is the wrong way to go about it because no matter how much oxygen you put in their lungs, there's not enough hemoglobin to transport it when symptoms show up and they get diagnosed" or even "it can attack nerves as seen in patients who have lost the senses of taste and smell".
I've read the articles on the hemoglobin attack. I still haven't seen anything that refutes that theory. I will say, I've seen plenty of evidence that Covid 19 is a Blood disease and not a respiratory disease. (The bi-lateral "pneumonia" is a symptom of the problems absorbing oxygen) Once your cells are infected with CV-19, the underlying trajectory of bad symptoms is always the same, regardless of if you call it a respiratory disease or blood disease.
The main symptom that causes the downward spiral is the reduced O2Sat. Once your O2Sat starts dropping, organs that need the oxygen start weakening which reduces the body's ability to fight the disease, which causes your O2Sat to drop even further.
If you have CV19, just monitor your own O2Sat with a simple, inexpensive, small, reusable, battery powered device called a Pulse Oximeter. If your O2Sat starts dropping below 95%, then you've got a slight problem. See a Doctor, get HCQS if you can.
If you wait until the O2Sat is in the 50's, you've got a serious problem and these are the folks they put on the ventilators which don't do anything except exacerbate lung issues.
This is different from the common cold and flu, but most of the time it's not serious at all.
Makes sense, as doctors are trained to fight symptoms and not the root cause.
also, if your upper respiratory system is infected hard with a virus it could easily block your ability to taste, smell, and get enough oxygen.
Viruses get in your cells and control them, replicating that way. Bacteria just coats shit in Bacteria.
The only thing that seems to be backed up by the information is that it can cause pneumonia. That's why the steroidal breathing treatment was looking promising and the original focus on ventilators.
The rest seems to be fear mongering or due to the bullshit of diagnosing EVERYTHING as covid death. However, I don't know much about the mechanics of viruses and perhaps that's something that happens when the virus gets too far along without being killed off.
Ask yourself, if all of those crazy things were true.... wouldn't the many millions of people who tested positive had some symptoms sending them for testing rather than the fear driving them to the mass testing facilities?
You shouldn't underestimate what people will do out of fear. And the misleadia has been hard at work fear-mongering people.
Because we've been coddling people for so long. Letting them circlejerk themselves into being stupid for so long.
They're saying that strains of coronavirus are associated with the common cold which has been a thing before SARS-CoV-2. The antibody test doesn't seem to be specific enough to differentiate SARS-CoV-2 from other strains of coronavirus.
Exactly this. It's not that SARS-CoV-2 is the common cold (it's not; colds are caused by a variety of things from coronaviruses--around 20%--to rhinoviruses), it's that the IgG/IgM tests can't differentiate between it.
That means that all the estimates they've done based on previous penetration of this virus are completely untrustworthy. So this idea that there's as many as 10x the number of people who are positive based on antibody assays is almost certainly bunk. We have no way of knowing.
That means it's not an admission this is less serious than they're claiming. It's that they're actively lying to us about either the extent of the virus and its spread, its infectiousness, or both.
Thank you, this is the best explanation posted so far. I was going to post something similar.
Depending on the source, 15-25% of common colds worldwide are caused by one of four coronaviruses that have become endemic in the human population (there are more, but they don't affect people). I don't remember the origin, but they have mutated to the point that they are mostly benign.
10-40% of colds (again, depends on the cited source) are caused by a rhinovirus. 20% are caused by RSV or parainfluenza (which is different than influenza, but can be severe). Another 20-30% are caused by an unidentified virus.
If you had a cold "recently" and it was caused by a coronavirus, it MAY have conferred some amount of immunity to COVID-19 (and may be one of the factors on the severity of your illness). And as the previous comment says: the similarity between COVID-19 and a common cold coronavirus may result in a falsely positive COVID-19 antibody test.
But, I don't think anyone is intentionally lying, other than perhaps the Misleadia. The people doing these tests and compiling the data know and understand the limitations. But, by the time it makes it to CNN, it's trumpeted to uninformed viewers (on CNN, that's all of them) without the qualifiers.
The people that set the regulations such that any death "with COVID" is a death from COVID seem to be intentionally lying, right?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1127698/influenza-us-deaths-by-age-group/
The number of death young than 18 years old of influenza during 2018 is 634. The number of Covid death is 414 for those younger than 25 years old. The number of Covid death is 746 for those younger than 35 years old.
You know how ridiculous to not open the k-12 schools and the colleges because of the safety of the students.
You know how ridiculous to say that we cannot open the school because of the safety of teachers only make up for a fraction of the school services and can be simply replaced by younger teachers.
And it will a generational scale negative impact.
The public school system needs to torn down and rebuilt from scratch. Refusing to open just hastens their demise. They have checkmated themselves.
The criteria for listing COVID-19 as a contributing cause to death in my state precludes cases that only tested positive for it.
In your state, your mileage may vary. If so, you are wasting your breath complaining to me.
Not complaining to you. Not asking what they do in your state. I'm asking a question about what you said. Will you answer it?
I agree with you on all but point:
health authorities are trying to kill as many of us as possible. And they're doing a damn good job of it. Over 135,000 that they claim died due to CCPvirus, did not have to die, statistically speaking. Now of course we have no idea how far off their reported numbers are but still, you're talking a minimum of 95% of those who died being preventable.
Notice this is different from people working in healthcare; I don't believe they actively try to kill their patients. It's the authorities, many layers of bureaucracy above them. It was perfectly obvious to me when the antibody test results first came out that they had no way of knowing if antibodies they found were specific to this virus. If I can know that, they certainly did!
They feed the misleadia disinformation, and it's not because they want to save lives. None of this is about public health
I think people make the mistake of assuming health care professions are unbiased robots who don’t have personal agendas or emotions. I’m sure there are many people in various walks of health care who secretly want this to be bad so they achieve political wins both legislatively and at the polls.
Well wanting it to be bad also glorifies their job, and possibly their pay. So yeah there's all that.
As I mentioned before, the RT-PCR tests are pretty accurate since they match specific RNA sequences in the virus. That much certainly isn't in question.
What is in question is how they're representing the antibody assays.
The problem I have isn't so much with the labs or the workers who are testing. It's in the bureaucracy. We know that a number of these counties/cities/hospitals are hurting for money. If they can find a way to pad their COVID-19 patient count, and get money for it, there's almost no way to guarantee that they won't.
That's wherein the rub lies.
Suffice to say I don't trust, e.g., NY.
It's not just limited to COVID either. I know of someone who went to hospital, was diagnosed with something fairly minor, and they were trying to push an expensive surgical intervention because they're hurting for cash right now. He declined.
Knowing this, I get really surprised to hear somebody get negative result. It is actually very difficult to get negative result unless you've never had any cold-like symptoms. I've had at least 4-5 times I felt like I had a cold because I got some coughs and sinus annoyance since November or something. I got a cold last November which lasted for a few weeks, and had some symptoms 3-4 times since the end of March, which went away in a few or even next day.
I will be surprised to see if I have negative now. I should get positive if I take the test.
The sad thing is that the RT-PCR tests are fairly accurate because they match a specific sequence of the viral RNA.
If they're combining questionable IgG/IgM testing to pad the positive results, this is a travesty because it means nothing is trustworthy at this point. They're tossing science out with the baby and the bathwater.
Because of that and what you described, I'd imagine two outcomes: If they're just using a RT-PCR test, you'll probably turn up negative. If they're using the antibody assay, you'll probably turn up positive.
Bonus third outcome: If they need money, you'll turn up positive.
I have a cold at the moment (as do my two kids) and got tested a week ago. All three of us came back negative and it only took three days to get the results. I was honestly rather surprised.
Well shit. Gotta fix this too.
I want to say that the way cases were counted changed to consider every positive antibody test as a new case. They were in essence counting COVID cases that very well could have been someone coming into contact with any given coronavirus, in that case.
That's nuts, I think.
As I mentioned to another poster, the RT-PCR tests are pretty accurate. If what has been posted here is true about the antibody tests, then they're deliberately muddying the water to pad results.
I provided facts. You viewed them as me defending something. I was simply stating the way things are.
SARS-CoV-2 is beyond the common cold in terms of its virulence, but it is absolutely being overblown by the media. People of higher age and others with co-morbidities do get hit pretty hard by it. Younger healthier people handle it fine, statistically speaking.
We have no way of arguing the numbers, because hospitals have been fabricating the damn numbers for covid relief bucks. As low as they report, they are drastically LOWER in reality. Not even a normal flu season.
No, he didn’t.
Fauci did exactly what his masters paid him to do. He is Satanist cabal scum, just like all of them, and he executed his mission flawlessly. He simultaneously convinced big businesses to torpedo the economy while giving states the green light to flush civil liberties down the toilet.
It was the Globalists wet dream, and they convinced everyone to LET them do it. No arguments, very little pushback, not a single shot fired and they got exactly what they wanted. Then they got to ice the cake with their manufactured riots.
Fauci didn’t fuck anything up. He tried, and failed, back in the 80s to do the exact same thing with AIDS. Too many people were still awake back then, too many people still able to think for themselves. He was close to getting away with it, but in the end he failed. Why do you think he stuck around so long in government? He had to redeem himself to his masters.
He couldn’t stand failing in his duties, and he finally pulled it off. Watch as he rides off into the sunset after November.
Like a Vampire, or most kinds of evil, they can’t inflict the harm on you directly. They have to convince others to do harm or convince you to harm yourself. Everyone has free will, given to us by God himself. That’s how you know COVID is bullshit, because they convince others to inflict the damage to economies, shut down businesses, wear masks. They just provide the illusion that the weak minded need to get on their knees and beg for their own captivity and servitude.
Fauci succeeded, and unfortunately no one stopped him. He succeeded wildly in his mission. Look around you.
Every year a bunch of children die from influenza. The get a respiratory infection, it turns into pneumonia, and they die.
Is there a single fucking thing CNN could print that you wouldn't immediately believe in it's entirety?
Sperg alert
Glad you're better! As far as we can tell, by looking at it the same way the disease does, the one risk group is oxidative stress. This includes old age, diabetes, high blood pressure, and morbid obesity. Probably some other things I don't know about.
One way we can tell health authorities aren't doing anything to try to save lives is they never told us what we can do to boost our innate immune system, or how important antioxidants are with this. It's all the same whether we're trying to stay healthy or fighting off the infection. There's no way a mask does that much good, and certainly HCQ used correctly does a lot more good, but even that won't work so well in a person with an immune system weakened by lockdown.
It's a cold that can cause serious symptoms in the old and frail. That's why it killed so many in nursing homes but it only killed them a few weeks or months earlier than they would've died otherwise.
The flu can kill a bunch of people, and it does, but like covid 1984 most people have no to very mild symptoms.
LOL okay tough guy, what're you going to do about it?
I was supposed to have a medical procedure done but they said I had to have a CV screening before. I cancelled it and told them why. I'm not going to be entered into the government database with their case tracers and other bullshit. I haven't been sick with anything, but it could come back positive because we know they're being disingenuous and even falsifying lab results.
Then they would be contacting my family members who could then have their jobs at risk. I'm not playing their game and that procedure can hold. On that same note, the gal I spoke with at the medical office was based and completely understood my reason for cancelling. She knew exactly what it means to be screened.
People have actually been KILLED due to false positive tests, negative tests, and about every other situation that involves being ventilated for no sane reason.
Like most of us here, I'm not a tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist. At the very beginning, I was uncertain about the virus and what it really was. It was then revealed to those paying attention what it became, a political tool for society manipulation.
There is NOTHING about CV the media or government (feds, state and local) can tell me that I would believe. I distrust all of them. I do trust Trump because I believe he's really trying to find a way out of this that is quick and doesn't involve any tyranny or destruction of the economy.
GOOD FOR YOU!
I wish more people understood this. And they say our healthcare system is systemic racism? Oy vey.
This just happened a good friend of mine in late July, There was a prison outbreak so they forced all the staff to get tested, He tested positive despite having zero symptoms meanwhile his wife and their kid tested negative but the state(CA) sent the whole family(including his parents since he visited them a few days prior) orders with each of their names printed on them saying they have to spend 14 days quarantined or face a fine or jail. THE ENTIRE FAMILY. Meanwhile my friend tested negative 6 days later. So that potential fake positive caused 3 people in the family to have to give up their jobs for 2 weeks family friends had to go to the grocery store for them since they had a CA order saying they are basically under house arrest.
DO NOT GET TESTED IF YOU ARE NOT SICK.
We know this shit is going on. I'm in Texas and I still don't trust any of them right now. Spend a little time here on T_D and you pick up a lot of information that's not covered by the media or is being completely suppressed. We're also good about providing legit, based sources to information and that's what makes T_D such a great place!
We need reparations for not being locked down for all of history!
Not so; there are a good number of coronavirus, and one of them is the most prevalent strain of common cold that essentially everyone will catch.
What this proves is that the numbers mean fuck-all if testing can be positive for people who have had ANY coronavirus.
It also proves a flawed methodology if the testing can't specifically pinpoint this virus.
For the antibody test, yes.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but a lot of people don't understand the difference between an antibody test vs. the test to see if you currently have the virus.
The antibody test in particular is the one that can't differentiate between coronavirus and SARS-CoV-2.
Yeah, the conflating of tests is ridiculous. I'm torn between it being incompetence or political malice to inflate bad numbers.
Don't be torn. And don't think the malice is limited to merely inflating numbers, spreading panic. We have TONS of evidence of what they're up to:
Fauci does have financial interest in medicines that compete with HCQ. Which doesn't mean he isn't serving the agenda to kill as many of us as possible.
Cuomo isn't the only one who denied sick people medicine. Fewer than 10 Governors let people have HCQ as an outpatient! Here in WI you can't get it even if you've been on it all your life and failure to get it can kill you. He claims he has nothing to do with it and blames it on the medical boards. The Governor of SD proves that one Governor can stand up tot he bureaucracy and WIN.
Cuomo isn't the only one who put CCPvirus patients in the same ROOM with healthy people in nursing homes as a permanent residence. Half the Nation's dead came about this way.
If they cared about public health, they would've immediately told us that lockdowns are the worst thing for our immune systems, and what to do to strengthen our innate immune system.
Plannedemic came before failed shampeachment ended. Had DJT not been distracted, he could've responded better.
Plannedriots came as plannedemic was losing steam, and predictably created the recent spike. Age 29 and younger have TRIPLE the numbers they ever did before! Yet health Officials cover for it, all doling out the same message that was obviously planned in advance.
I doubt even most County or Federal Health Department workers know the difference either. LPN nursing doesn't go very deep into hard science, and I'd bet most nurses brain dump that shit as soon as exams are over because most of their job is more about treatment and paperwork procedure versus in-depth hard science.
Same goes for most of the doctors too. I'd wager the majority are family practice specialties, which doesn't exactly require one to maintain any kind of detailed knowledge on virology and/or immunology. They fix booboos and ouchies and give yearly shots. Anything requiring more than that, they send up the chain to a specialist.
Not really, they just report the numbers they're given. None of them have the hard science background required in order to "verify" anything. None of them are healthcare workers, they're bean-counting administrators.
PCR test is also plagued with false positives. Even the inventor of the test said it’s especially susceptible to false positives (false negatives do happen but the nature of this method skews far to the false positive). Every test has the potential to give a false positive and it’s heavily influenced by the tech that runs it. If you run enough cycles there is a point where it will throw a positive.
Yes! IABS - It's all bullshit.
65 x running the PCR and everyone's positive. So they stop at 38. Close enough for nuclear bombs, horseshoes - and government work.
Accuracy isn't even attempted. It's all about installing OWG.
This is dangerous in so many ways. Let's assume the virus actually is deadly for the sake of argument. False positives will allocate much needed resources to people who don't need it, including contract tracing on someone who never had it. False positives could swing the mortality in either direction. If they test everyone in the hospital, someone dying of plain old renal failure or cancer with a false positive would increase the mortality rate. On the other end, routine testing of healthy people would decrease the "mortality rate" since they obviously can't die from a false positive.
Basically, garbage data leads to garbage conclusions.
Garbage in, garbage out. Apparently, the Abbott test is the best method but it’s expensive. Trump did mention wanting to get the Abbott test far and wide. Best part about it, no back if the nose swab. Also, you can get results in 15 minutes.
This is literally what happened with Alyssa Milano. Who tested negative on the pcr test.
BUT SHE'S LOSING HER HAIR
It depends on the jurisdiction. My county health department does not include antibody tests. They only report confirmed COVID-19 cases, with the nose swab and a PCR.
I won't claim my entire state does this, because I don't follow the 200+ counties. But, my state mandates that all confirmed cases require a PCR test. They have a separate classification for ""probable" cases, and a positive antibody test is only considered "probable" if the symptoms meet the clinical criteria.
Some counties in my state may be combining "confirmed" and "probable" cases in their reporting. But, my county does not.
Yes, you did. I was expounding on your point, using my particular county as an example.
My county health department posts a summary of confirmed cases and confirmed deaths on Facebook every day. And nearly every day, someone that just started reading it asks about antibody tests.
I think the person making the health dept. post has a copypasta to reply every time: "No, we only report confirmed cases. We do not collect or report antibody test results".
Spez: state guidelines permit the use of antibody tests to count a case as probable, if the patient is also exhibiting symptoms at the time. But, it's not clear (to me) if all counties are excluding it from the new cases they report to the state every day.
goldfish...
I was absent when this happened, can you link me to a source for the double counting? I can see where the false positive accusations are coming from but I don’t know where the double dipping accusation is coming from. I assume this was covered early when I wasn’t active.
It's worse than merely double counting. tons of people got out of line instead of waiting hours to be tested. They were given positive test results.
Tons of Drs have sent off 6 tests that were never used to get tested, and had them all return positive.
We should be going by Dr diagnosis, and immediately giving medicine to those at risk. This could've been brought to a screeching halt in March! 40+ Governors are mass murderers. We should file class action lawsuits, both civil and criminal, against their every act of tyranny. Then physically remove them from Office under citizen's arrest for mass murder.
That video is over 2 hours long and I'm not saying it's not worth watching the whole thing. 16:15 shows a screen shot of one major problem. 15:30 introduces this speaker, who is a purple haired land whale that starts at 16:00. Or maybe that's a Muslim head covering over more normal hair? Either way, we see what it takes to peddle this bs.
Easily multiply actual cases by 10. Deaths? Who knows, but it's exaggerated and many Drs from all over the Country have come forward about this.
Look at the total death rate from all causes and we are below 2019 and all other recent years. That could not happen if we were dealing with a deadly pandemic.
Yep. But in a lot of states, testing positive means quarantine. Mandatory. I've had no flu or cold symptoms since this all started, so I haven't bothered. I just think it's too risky.
The hilarious thing is - and fucking maddening - is I get allergies, most of the year. I can take OTC like Flonase, and I'm fine, but if I forget, then it's sniffles and teary eyes, the whole deal - and morons think I have covid. IT'S NOT FUCKING COVID, I'M NOT COUGHING, MORON. So i carry a bottle of Flonase, instead of a phone.
You're lucky. I normally get allergies, and don't respond well to medication. Fortunately for me that's only during growing season, which is short in WI. Labor Day is typically my worst.
The initial spread of COVID-19 to my state from NY/CT/NJ (and the rest of the US) coincided with the start of spring allergy season. Due to a mild winter, the crap in the air was much worse than usual, and people that normally didn't have significant allergic reactions were experiencing them for the first time. So, a lot of people were panicking. But, a couple of days of Zyrtec and Flonase was all they needed to get it under control.
If I don't keep my allergies under control, I get a lot of sinus drainage into my throat while I sleep, and the irritation causes a dry cough during the day. I carry a bottle of water if it gets too bad.
I also cough as a side-effect of (3-seasons, ugh) seasonal allergies.
I don't smoke, but instead of trying to explain to people the process behind allergies and an immune system because most people without allergies seem incredibly uneducated on the subject, I just say "smoker's cough, don't fly into a tizzy".
Sounds like it
There was video of an epic smack down from a Californian man fed up with the lockdown bullshit and he told off his city council with this. Why lockdown when 99% of healthy people have immune systems that neutralize the virus.
Wish I could find the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlni1R2gX5M
Ok I’m confused. Is this what real journalism is supposed to look like ?
Don't be confused. For many years now, the only real journalism has been done either by independent citizens, or independent news agencies like OANN.
Blessed be the!
Wear your mask for your zoom calls too. And goggles. And a butt plug.
FLATTEN THE CURVE YOU MASK DENYING WHITE PRIVILEGED BIGOT
NEW NORMAL
It's a misdemeanor to not socially distance in my cucked county in California. Nobody really gives a shit though so lol. The vast majority of people in my town don't wear masks when exercising at one of the schools. Kids are doing sports training and stuff. Fuck these stupid regulations.
Whole thing is such an obvious scam. Sad that media has so much control of our nation.
Had the Rona. I had a headache, runny nose and total loss of smell. Felt better after about two - three days of symptoms but smell is still returning and pretty much almost back to normal.
Spilled gasoline on my hands and literally couldn’t smell it. Shit was wild.
Other than that, it was a walk in the park.
TL:DR spilling gasoline on your hands cure the rona
I had trouble smelling earlier this year, maybe I had it. I was taking at least 2k IU D and a bit of daily zinc at the time just in case so maybe that's part of why I had almost no symptoms.
Other viruses can cause lack of smell too. More common with the Rona from what I understand.
It doesn't matter what facts we can give out. People don't want facts anymore, they want to exercise their confirmation bias.
For anyone at risk and for Pedes of Color ( that likely need more vitamin D than average) here's a good article. Search quercetin there too. Fake news hates him https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/07/09/optimal-vitamin-d-levels-for-coronavirus-crisis.aspx
Thanks for sharing but it wouldn’t let me read u less I subscribed.
Sorry I forgot that, I think a fake email should work without signup.
Corona plandemic = biggest hoax in our century.
It is not distinguished who dies WITH and who dies BECAUSE of Covid19.
Deceased humans are often NOT even tested, on CDC's advise, it is "valid" to determine COVID19 as death cause BASED ON SPECULATION (no test needed).
Even if tested, tests have 50-80% false positive rates. Meaning that testing multiple times gives out random results. Negative, negative, negative, positive, negative, etc.
Patients are tested multiple times until "positive" appears.
Papayas and goats test positive too, as Tanzania's president found out. https://youtu.be/FvqeloNqPWE
Even if you take the fake statistic's death numbers, of world wide 700.000 deceased "due to COVID", you get a 0.0079% death rate for total world population (as of July).
rounded up, Covid-19, the "most dangerous virus in our lifes" had officially caused
0,0% deaths worldwide
Don't think socialism is the end goal. that is OWG, One World Government. Make us all paupers and serfs, going back to feudal times. these same sick fucks invented capitalism and communism as ad hoc concepts to push this so that all the world's resources would be controlled by as few as possible.
And they have the mindless horde on the street doing their bidding, when a few years ago they were Occupy Wall Street.
Granted, the transition might look like a socialist takeover, or a Chinese takeover. Their plan is worse.
Oh the same common cold they have never been able to make a vaccine for?
CORRECT! This is both a RNA virus and a coronovirus. Never has a vaccine been possible for either. Never has a vaccine been more than 90% effective. Dr Zelenko's protocol is 95 - 97.4% effective
Spending a dime on a vaccine is worse than stupid, it's all done for show to advance their evil agenda.
I was just thinking today: I don't remember any of the things we're currently dealing with happening during H1N1. We didn't shut the entire country down and force an economic depression on ourselves over it. We weren't shamed and treated like heretics for not wearing masks in public. It was just business as usual. I remember hearing that there was a bad flu going around, but that was it.
So why has the reaction been so drastically different this time? Is this the new normal? Are we going to have to commit economic suicide again every time some new bug comes around? Am I going to have to walk around wearing a germ-infested face diaper for the rest of my damn life, even if I'm not sick?
edit: according to the CDC, influenza kills between 12000 and 61000 Americans annually. Why don't we have to go into total shutdown mode over that every year?
Trump. Thats the difference
Well he's doing everything he can to feed into it, it seems.
I understand what youre saying. The deep state is deep
20% of the US caught H1N1. Maybe 24%, which is consistent with the worldwide estimate. Biden's chief of staff said nothing they did had anything to do with it not killing more people. (yet commulibs try comparing Obama's response favorably to DJT's)
The hypocrisy is staggering! where's my killdozer?
It's totally a real pandemic though, no way the numbers could be inflated at all 👍
Coronavirus is a family of viruses so they share dna. Their point is just because you test positive doesn’t mean you have covid19. Which is why I personally don’t agree with massive wide scale testing. Just test the ones who show suggestive symptoms and bother to come to the clinic to get checked out.
Very sensible. Widescale testing is yet another means to bankrupt the US.
All widescale testing does is show a grim picture to give the people a perception of a deadly contagious disease which is not the reality. So it can be used to manipulate public opinion
That all stopped when plannedriots began, remember? Between that and plannedemic they can save the rest of their deadman switches as long as possible. They want their never to be another election.
What's the source of this screenshot? I'd like to share this but I already know I'll get grief if they don't know the source.
edit: Found it - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html
This is what I figure based on personal experience, anecdotals accounts, and all this back and forth data...
At the initial release, COVID was real, and it was nasty, weird, and highly contagious.
As time went on, the virus started to mutate away from its lab-created potency. (Think of it like a purebred dog population left to interbreed in the wild.) This created branches of related strains that each showed some of, but not all, the aspects of the original strain. Some cause loss of smell, some cough, some diarrhea, etc. Some are more severe than others.
In the late stage, where we are now, COVID has now mostly regressed to a "wildtype" coronavirus, meaning that the various strain genomes have stabilized to a potency and virulence on par with non-engineered viruses.
This theory explains the greatly varied accounts of COVID symptoms and severity, and it suggests that this version of the virus was "rushed out" from the lab before the genome was fully stabilized.
ding ding ding
proves this is not about some new deadly virus. Its all political. To stop Trump from having rallies and to hurt Trumps economy
It's FAR bigger than just that! They would prefer there never be another election
true. watch THE GREAT RESET: Davos & the Plot to Cancel Trump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb9jRqgDOJ8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1YY0pZSVyAARb1osZI73X5WlyV0Fo5Lg3EREevfa1oTX49zOQfP5Q07ks
These are but a few ways of boosting our innate immune system, which was weakened due to lockdown. If health Officials cared about public health, why didn't they tell us about this?
Glad you and yours are better :)
I mentioned this to a female doctor and she laughed at me. Doctors have lost a lot of credibility during this whole covid bullshit.
Defund CDC. I'm over all this. Been in phase 2 since the end of May. Over All the crazies at the salon.. if you're that afraid don't come in!
Biggest public health scam ever perpetrated on the American people. By now people seem so set in their ways, it’s been over 5 months, a lot of people I meet are on my side, but at this point, good luck convincing any mask Nazis that it’s a scam. They’re in too deep.
HONK HONK
I would like to add.... you know how Facebook is declaring it "fake news" that people are getting fungal infections from wearing a mask and breathing your own recycled dirty air? Well, that does happen and I know a 70 year old lady who got falsely diagnosed COVID and they said it looked bad for her. Then the family thought she had a fungal infection from her mask.... took antibiotics... better/home in 2 days!
Also, I have proof it lowers your oxygen levels especially with those that have existing lunch problems/smokers.
Burn your mask!
"Also, I have proof it lowers your oxygen levels especially with those that have existing lunch problems/smokers."
It's not the mask. It's the underlying conditions associated with lung disease and with smoking.
I wear a mask 12-16 hours a day. It's a bit stuffy normally, and very uncomfortable when we have to code a patient. My O2 sat stays above 97% even after multiple rounds of chest compressions, and so does my co-workers.
yes, I jumped the gun. My proof is with people with underlying problems wearing a mask. But some places are saying they don't care if you have asthma you must wear a mask. When the gyms were opened, a member with asthma got walked out by police for not wearing his mask and he wasn't even within 6 ft of anyone. I just get frustrated with the tyrannical enforcement of it all.
"Existing lunch problems"
Autocorrect strikes again! It's been hysterical here the past few days
Fortunately the CDC does say if you have trouble breathing do not wear a mask
The issue with the infection from the mask is that you’re suppose to wash them or let them bake in the sun to kill off other types of bacteria that will collect.
Leaving them hanging in the sun, in the car, is totally fine... but you’re still going to get them dirty with the impurities and oils on your face.
This is what I said as soon as antibody testing came out and everybody here was so sure so many had it. How do they know an antibody they find is specific to CCPvirus?
ANSWER: they don't. They just know your body killed off something like that. So let's spend all this money to create serum from people who had a cold. If that works, GREAT. But HCQ is cheaper, and works for almost everybody.
Very Fake News...to very fake virus...at least the government over reaction...
Just a friendly reminder that you WILL test positive whether you took the test or not.
Point number two totally admits that having a vaccine would also prove pointless as it won't block the chance of getting it 100%, try maybe 5%.
I don't think any vaccine is 100%. Flu vaccine is notoriously poor.
"there is a chance"
What percentage? 100%? Yea I'm guessing 100%.
Aside from this being weaponized, there will never be a "cure" or "vaccine" because we've never been able to cure the common cold to begin with. This will haunt us forever.
So my positive will get added to the total then.
the upside is the CFR will drop bigly. That's the way it works.
As many times as you test positive, yes.
What a giant joke...
I live in New Zealand, have had a lingering cold for a few weeks now. Have just been tested for kung flu. I'll be interested to see what comes back.
Meanwhile, my friend had it and is donating plasma.
They test him for antibodies each time. He was told the antibodies only last 2 months. Crock of shit.
How long have his antibodies been good?
Well here’s the thing. He got sick in April. They didn’t have tests then, so they just told him he probably had it and to stay home.
Later took the antibody test and had antibodies for it. When they donate, the donation center said 2-6 months immunity, but I guess he still has enough and qualifies to donate.
The whole thing is really suspicious because (correct me if I’m wrong) once you have antibodies to these types of viruses, you are immune for life. You only “re-catch” them if they mutate. Even for diseases that can come back, usually its decades later (like shingles from the chickenpox virus). I have never heard anything about any immunity that lasts that shortly, and I read quite a bit about stuff like this.
I didn’t want to spend too much time grilling him because he’s a casual acquaintance, but it doesn’t add up for me.
Well this whole plannedemic doesn't add up except that globomohos want the US to fall, which is a goal they've been working towards since 1913 with the creation of the Fed.
As it happens my Mom deliberately got me a case of the chicken pox in 1969, on my first ever Christmas vacation. I was miserable the whole time, and didn't miss one speck of school. Every female on her side of the family spent their last many decades of life miserable with shingles, and it's the exact same virus. So I'm prone to that problem, and developed some persistent nasty symptoms since lockdown started. I'm 5 years too young to get the vaccine, and haven't found any other treatment. And a vaccine with symptoms is probably a bad idea generally. Which is to say I've looked into all this a LOT since February.
Anyway, the common cold is something we beat only by the normal human immune response. The old saying goes you get over a cold in 2 weeks without medicine, but with medicine it only takes 14 days. We catch a cold again precisely because said immunity is not lifelong. How long immunity lasts varies, but generally after recovery we're weaker, not stronger. So it is possible we develop antibodies to CCPvirus that aren't lifelong, aren't complete, and who the fuck knows really.
It was always wrong to claim no human has any resistance to this. It's 78% the same as either SARS or some other coronavirus I'm not sure which, and our immune response is apparently identical to ALL of it. Which is what I suspected from day 1 of antibody testing being announced. So whatever is being learned about this is being mostly obscured by disinformation, and that is quite obviously deliberate.
From what I’ve heard, the shingles vaccine is pretty nasty.
I’ve heard good things about lysine supplementation. It works to suppress viral replication of herpes viruses (same family), and there are promising preliminary studies for shingles treatment.
I like to read scientific studies on google scholar for my data. Might be a low cost/low risk treatment option for you.
Wow! Lysine has promising preliminary treatment for shingles treatment? Now you're talking my language :) OTC, cheap, no risk of side effects
Yeah since I've got weird neuropathy that even might be associated with shingles, I'd hate to try the vaccine for fear of flaring it up when otherwise I might be able to beat it and not suffer with it.
Sort of difficult to find original studies, but here’s one I found:
Studies indicate that the process of VZV replication extracts lysine from the blood stream. The virus attempts to use lysine as it would use arginine—to make protein VII, an arginine-rich protein component of the viral core. However, this attempt fails. Thus, lysine acts like an arginine substitute, “fooling” the virus and preventing it from replicating and causing outbreaks.
Vol. 2 No. 4 2013 www.thepharmajournal.com Page | 25.
I'm literally just getting over a cold, and thankfully it doesn't look like my work is gonna require a 'rona test. If people who weren't even tested are getting positive results, I'm like 95% sure if I got tested they'd say I'm positive.
A small part of me wants that so I can say "yeah I had Covid. It was a bad flu like I get every year, NBD." But on the other hand I don't want to deal with all the potential crap I might have to with a positive test. 2 week quarantine? My family have to quarantine? Who knows what else; no thanks!
NO testing is the right way forward. Massive testing only contributes to bankrupting the US.
COVID IS JUST THE COMMON COLD. STOP THINKING IT'S NOT.
Every person I know that got a positive test was later told after other testing they were negative.
2 have told me that when they did the contact tracing call/form that their entire family was listed positive (potential) so if we just talk about those two, that’s 10 false positives right there.
They don’t go back and “fix the data”. And they don’t tell people they changed what the “data” is starting July.
It’s bad science at this point and they should be ashamed to use the word “science” when attacking people.
Yeah, the original virus before you put the hiv element in it
no, to clarify, you will DEFINITELY test positive if you just had a cold and still have enough antibodies.
the test is not specific. AMAZING THEY DONT TELL US THIS AMIRITE
How long does a virus stay in your body? Not the stupid coronavirus, which the internet keeps bringing up when I search, but just any virus in general? Is there a set time before it leaves the body? Is it always there forever?
I’d say it Differs and depends on your immune system and your body’s ability to fight it.
Also a good thought!
That was my understanding as well. So it would be safe to say, if you have had a common cold (coronavirus) once in your life, you will probably test positive? Seems fishy.
"there is a chance we" does not mean "it is likely"
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1127698/influenza-us-deaths-by-age-group/
for the reference
Can we get links to source material when we post this stuff?
To be fair the quoted article neither says nor implies a common cold will “likely” yield a false positive.
There’s no need to exaggerate to make a point here. We are better than that.
Facebook Fact Check THis. HAHAHAH!