I’d like to hijack the top comment to promote a group I support that is advocating for this across the country.
It’s called POP Squad. They’re based out of Connecticut, but they have caught 174 online predators all across the country by posing as 13, 14 or 15 year old children on dating applications
They did this before...chemical castration of pedophiles.
It does not work.
Of those initial inmates they released back into the wild, the first two immediately went out and murdered children. The first guy murdered at least 3 before they could recapture him. Others, deemed "less violent", still sexually attacked kids.
Pedophilia, like transgenderism and homosexuality are NOT sexual orientations. They are spiritual illnesses.
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land 2 Chronicles 7:14
Most of the references in the New Testament by Paul to homosexuality translate specifically to pederasty which is a form paedophilia. Hell, Reddit had a thing about how great ancient Greek acceptance of homosexuality was reach the frontpage a couple of years ago not realizing or more likely not caring that those relationships were all pederast between an old man and preteen/teen boy. The practice still goes on in the ME. They don't believe it is gay or wrong to sleep with boys if they don't have body hair yet. Some Seal actually got in trouble for murdering some Afghan warlord who had a young boy chained to his bed during the Obama administration. It's a sick world.
It’s fucking crazy, if he was in a murderer’s house in the US and found a kid chained to a bed I’m pretty sure it would be defense from immediate danger. But in a warzone it’s apparently illegal.
President Trump: "People have asked me if I'm going to push for Millstone Therapy. All I can say right now is we're looking into it. Some good minds have recommended it in the past, some of the best minds of all time."
The verse is referring to sin. Everything you said was solid, but we can't bend verses to mean something they don't say. There are plenty of other ones to choose from.
Children who are raped get messed up in the head and it can cause them to grow up to become depraved sinners, drug abusers, and prevent them from reaching their true potential in many many ways.
The other versions I have seen do not use “offend” and seem more clear than the one this pede used, unless it is actually a different verse altogether. https://www.biblehub.com/matthew/18-6.htm
Ever other version says something to the effect that it would be better to die than to cause a child to sin, lose faith, stumble, or be led astray. Unless there is some other context it would seem that sexualizing or raping a child could very reasonably cause those things, and of course grooming a child into being a “willing” participant would definitely be to lead them into sin.
Bible study is very interesting to me so I would really like to hear a more refined, nuanced, or contextualized interpretation if there is one.
What do you mean, Make America Legendary? As in, something of the past? As a form of human government we are already a legend in our own time, and everyone knows it even if they hate it. What you mean?
Hence why it should be off with their heads. The reason I think this is a scientific experiment is that our ancestors knew this stuff centuries ago. Rape? That's a hanging. Murder? That's a hanging. Kill the problem and the problem goes away.
This directly leads into a discussion on capital punishment. The goody two shoes in our society have tied our hands to our balls. We know how to handle this problem, but they won't let us do it.
The British Empire had The Bloody Code for hundreds of years. It was so difficult to catch criminals and still give a fair trial. Their solution was execution for even petty crimes. This wasn't the neck snapping hanging like in the movies. This hanging was a single loop that would strangle the condemned for minutes on end.... Both to demonstrate the power of the state and to entertain the locals. About the only time the executions were booed by the crowd was when young children were to be hung for pickpocketing. Eventually, the British code was changed because if the punishment doesn't even remotely fit the offense,
then the excess punishment does little to deter the crime.
This may not be the final solution but it's a much better solution than the left's answer of trying to normalize pedophilia and argue that children can consent
talking about respecting people that have those urges and their struggles to live with them, i mean it's an interesting thought experiment in terms of having a terrible urge to do evil and try to live righteously instead, but that's all it really is is a thought experiment. if somebody thought about being a serial killer but never did then that's great on them for controlling themselves but murderers should die, same with child molesters. you touch a kid you hang, and the moment we moved away from that is the moment that a lot of this shit got so out of control that we live in a world where the rabbit hole only ever goes deeper and deeper. talking about it does a lot to normalize the idea of it and you see lefties trying to add a P to the LGBTWTFBBQ name and it's just sickening.
good points, I think you're right. If Ted Bundy never hurt anybody but still had the same thoughts inside his head, he still wouldn't be somebody I'd want to turn my back on.
We're seeing that right now. Spirituality, willpower, attention span, this is fourth generation warfare. We are in a war with our hearts and our minds. Until God and Jesus matters, nothing else matters.
People with weak wills fall first. It's obvious who is strong and who is weak now.
Fitting username. I think you're being extraordinarily daft. When you have a nation, if not a world, of sinners, you expect God to just do as you demand? God is the one who demands things of you, not the other way around. If you can't keep your dick in your pants, follow the most basic of moral codes that He has laid out for us, or even say a prayer on behalf of somebody else, you have no business asking for His Grace. God has already shown dozens of signs of His presence just in the last few decades, and yet you choose to ignore them because you can't be bothered to pick up a Bible and discern those signs for yourself. How about the fact that He has already laid out The End from the beginning? No man could ever do that, and yet it is extraordinarily obvious to even the most cursory reader of Matthew or Revelation that He has done exactly that. The more you continue to demand miracles of and blaspheme His name, the more you will be rejected.
I dont believe you have a brain cause I've never seen it...
Dumb analogy but it's TRUE. There are a million things we believe in that we cant see but we believe as humans... principle our minds, never found by science.
Why dont you start by forgiving God for whatever slight you think he did to you.
It's not about vengeance. It's about protecting the young ones. All rhetorical snark aside these people should be locked up for life. It's a sad thing when our government refuses to perform the simple task of removing predators from our midst. The real answer, I guess is to be a good father and guard the children God blesses us with.
Frankly, this is the only real solution. Pedophiles are completely incurable. They cannot be fixed (no pun intended) or successfully treated in any way.
They stop preying on children only when they're dead. Period.
And the family rolls that the future blah blah blah is miss understood, had a hard up bringing ( literally own family has this irony is too thick) , etc, what ever clown world bullshit for that day. The justice system is on the brink of collapse.
What about all the men who marry crazy bitches who make up pedophilia claims and coach the kids to lie. Plenty of crazy bitches use this lie to get a divorce and custody of the kids.
Hopefully this law is for 100 percent proof cases idk but would be nice to have some way to punish these fucks that admit or undeniable proof.... im not sure of the details but understand this concern... also dont fuck crazy bitchs pals
This is exactly why I do not approve of punishments like this, false convictions are a thing and its bad enough we have potentially innocent people in jail or on death row.
Thank you. It is funny. I have now accomplished something with my life.
God, I'm so depressed. Ugh.
Trump supporters really ought to set up a charity for helping out reformed SJW's like myself whose lives fell apart due to the communist programming. Maybe something like Goodwill. Our most pressing need is for adequate work, which we often have trouble finding because many of us, due to depression and isolation, have few or no work or personal references, no social life, no job, few practical skills, and a resume full of gaps and other embarrassments. Changing our political opinions does not magically make these problems go away.
At least I am in good physical condition and my family is helping me. I would hate to be depressed, panicky, lonely, poor, and FAT. That would be awful.
Sorry for ruining the joke. I am thankful for things, just a bit frustrated. Have a nice day :)
Have you tried CBT before? This book has helped me get a better handle on my emotions. It's clinically tested as well, so it's not just a bunch of self-help mumbo jumbo.
Ah, but there is another book which has much to say on these matters. Perhaps a few words I already know will be sufficient:
Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice!
Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
Saint Paul, Philippians 4:1-8 (Saint Paul)
Further Reading:
Galatians 5:16-25 (Saint Paul)
Ecclesiastes 2:22-24 (The Prophet Solomon)
Psalm 23 (The Prophet David)
Psychology has greatly overcomplicated the practice of mental health. Our task is to behave ourselves, to love each other, to dwell upon that which is holy and beautiful, to busy ourselves with our Earthly labors, to feast in times of plenty as the Lord provides, to lay our burdens upon Christ, and to glorify God.
It's just, you know, a bit frustrating that I require some bureaucrat's approval before I can get back to those Earthly labors.
Start intermittent fasting (IF) and throw in some actual fasting as well once you get accustomed to IF.
Stop listening.
"What do you mean, just stop listening?!? Depresshun is a diseese!" Depression is also habitual. We are wired to remember negatives as an evolutionary mechanism to keep us from eating bad fruit or trying to hunt the big furry thing with the sharp teeth and pointy claws with no weapons. Once your body gets accustomed to a repeated chemical signal, you crave it (consider nicotine and smoking) and it can be very difficult to break for a lot of people.
Why do you think people today consume so much pornography? Dopamine. A chemical in your brain that gives you pleasure. Know what cures it? Not watching porn.
Taking a pill doesn't help. Re-wire your brain. You do this by making improvements in yourself. This creates self-reliance, which, in-part, creates self-esteem. Doing something you know is good for you will help start the rewiring.
Exercise is good. Vice is bad. Fasting does not match with my weight loss plan, which is going nicely.
Your description of the evolutionary reasoning behind depression is inaccurate. What you are describing is called "Operant Conditioning." Depression, and the closely-related Seasonal Affective Disorder, is more similar to hibernation. It is a means for the body to conserve energy by reducing general activity during winter, in captivity, during times of famine, and so on. Since food is plentiful in modern times, there is no longer a need for the body to do this. But when our minds perceive that we are experiencing hard times, our caveman brains still tend to make us "hibernate" when we don't need to.
I take an antidepressant, and it does help. They do not help everybody, and there are some side effects. I believe that the psychotic behaviors often associated with antidepressants are mostly due to interactions with other prescription drugs or street drugs, especially alcohol. Also, I believe much of the benefit associated with antidepressants is due to the fact that antidepressants cannot be taken safely with alcohol (thereby reducing or eliminating alcohol usage). I think that doctors should be more careful about prescribing antidepressants along with ADHD medication.
Anyway, I was mostly looking for comforting words, not actual advice. Also, I should not have indirectly asked for charity; that was just me being frustrated. It was not a serious suggestion. I am aware that I tend to offer advice instead of comforting words when I comment on the posts of others.
I know what I need to do. It's just a pain in the butt. Thanks for the encouragement.
i actually think that's better, because studies have shown castration doesn't often work, as the act is more about power, so they keep assaulting/abusing children even afterwards if they can.
studies have shown castration doesn't often work, as the act is more about power, so they keep assaulting/abusing children even afterwards if they can.
Because, you don't need a penis to wreak havoc. (seriously, you don't)
I, for one, am all for bringing back the guillotine and public executions. People need to see their choices have real consequences.
Castration just seems a bit too slippery slopish to me. “Oh sorry we’re taking your nuts cause this dossier said you peed on children.” Or “Well Mrs Ford said you molested her as a child.” Know what I mean?
The problem is this procedure doesn't always stop violent sex criminals from offending. The death penalty is the only true solution for these sick people.
Allen Turing, the father of the computer and a very crucial part in winning WW2 was castrated by the British for being gay. Which then led to his suicide
One of the more fucked up things to happen to a hero in recent history.
Spez: To add to this Turing was instrumental in cracking the Nazis Enigma code. He and his team developed technology to decipher the encrypted communications the Nazis were using to coordinate attacks. He used his knowledge to develop a digital device that could quickly run algorithms. The predecessor to modern day computing. It would have taken an insurmountable, and thus impossible, effort of human brains to achieve what his devices did with just a few people. It's not an exaggeration to say he turned the tide of war to favor the Allies. How did his country repay him? The British government discovered that he was gay. They chemically castrated him as being homosexual was a crime. All this after his brilliance helped lead the Allies to victory. The shaming and torture his government levied against him led him to commit suicide. It's unbelievable, to me, that all of his hard work and brilliance was dismissed in such a way that the Brits condemned him, in the era when this happened. RIP, Alan. You deserved so much more.
Yeah man, I don't know why people are clapping for this. I fucking hate pedos, but I love our Constitution, and this is a crystal-clear violation of the 8th Amendment which horrifies me to my core. It also sets the precedent that castration is on the table as a punishment for crimes, and could thus be expanded as a punishment for other crimes as well.
All of that is holding aside the possibility that someone innocent may be convicted of the crime and then punished by the irreversible act of castration.
This goes against every fiber of my being as an American and I cannot support it.
I dunno, be that as it may, it seems kind of like trying to loophole the constitution, to me.
If nothing else, try to remember that the pendulum of power always swings back around. We should never cheer for any new law or precedent if we would fear what the Democrats would do with that law or precedent, because it's not a matter of if they will be in power again, but when.
To what level can a prisoner consent? Is there really an actual choice available to a prisoner who is likely in solitary confinement/protective custody for potentially years on end?
I don't see this affecting an innocent man because, if the article is correct, this is a requirement for those applying for parole. If an innocent man gets caught up in this, he would be appealing rather than asking for parole and thus this wouldn't apply to him.
This does assume the justice system working well enough that an innocent man will go free following an appeal and demonstration of innocence, of course, which isn't always going to be a given.
Nobody is saying that. It's a more apt image when rendered in writing - sewing up a woman's box or removing ovaries doesn't elicit the same imagery. Castration implies some sort of appendage severed, like cutting off a hand holding a gun.
"My preference would be if someone does a small infant child like that, they need to die. God's going to deal with them one day ... If they're going to mark these children for life, they need to be marked for life," [Calhoun County Rep. Steve Hurst] said.
Over punishment, theres a real phrase for it. Same way we cant sentence someone to the rack.
Civilization comes with rules that dictate law. Used to be if you were bad enough you were put down like a bad dog. Here and now is different, and I often wonder of its better or worse.
Maybe the wheel, but we dont do that either. Besides the massive fact this aint 1200 England. This is the 2020 USA. There is a reason we do things differently.
They learned the formula for a propper hanging, They added a wet sponge to the electric chair. They burned people, they drowned people, they crippled and maimed people, they removed hands and legs. They raped and castrated and destroyed entire lines of people.Took entiee races and cultures as slaves. And did all of that to them too. And it was a perfectly acceptable system at that time.
We learned that that is horrible. We may have wandered past a very important threshold. What a lot of people call the pendulums swing.
But we are hanging in tbe air at this point. Its all very exciting, but worrisome at the same time. So many things are happening. And honestly we need to be ready on the high side of this.
We must remain fair while they go mad. That is how we demolish this so called counterculture horseshit. All thats at stake is civilization, and truth be told loads of people dont care much for high density civilization.
Not many people have the guts to kill an animal let alone a person.
Besides that maybe state sponsored death should have very little pagentry. I think so. Maybe I am right. But on the off chance that the accused was actually innocent. Theyy only died. They are gone no matter what, but nobody had to skin him alive to do it. As little suffering as possible may be better than raping a person to death. Just my more than $.02
a) the example used in article is about molesting toddler, but pedophilia now captures sexual relations with up to 18 year old in many jurisdictions. There were young guys in low 20s charged with such crimes for dating 16+ girls.
b) false convictions happen, especially when we go with higher ages where the #metoo, false accusations kind of stuff is not unlikely. there have been stories of girls conspiring to accuse and frame the same guy, and it happens among the 16/17 age bracket as well
c) i've yet to see any evidence that chem. castration prevents re-offending. afaik, crimes get more violent and that's about it.
Agreed, but you need to lay out "beyond a shadow of a doubt" because all these random accusations getting too much credence would make me fear for my own safety in a system outlined here.
Not only this, but the FBI seems to find ways to frame people for crimes they didn't commit.
Castration is very permanent. If we fuck up and castrate an innocent man, we're not going to be able to make the situation right.
We say innocent until proven guilty, and beyond a reasonable doubt, but we know how many normal people blindly trust FBI officials. I can't get over how this could break bad.
For reference, something insane, like 30% of prisoners on death row are exonerated after being convicted due to new evidence and crooked DAs like Kamala Harris withholding evidence.
Mixed feelings. A lot of women pull the rape card on men they're mad at. I could imagine a mom manipulating her kid to make up a lie about the father or step father because she's mad.
On the other hand, if there's hard proof I don't see a problem.
Imagine if the DA in your case was Kamala Harris. Even if the kid later confessed that they lied, the prosecution would still try to convict you and might even hide evidence.
A lot of those men dont go to trial, much less get convicted.
I think this is mostly a deterrent- or thats how it would be most useful. Pedophiles are sick in a way i cant comprehend, and are attacking the most vulnerable and defenseless. Castration is too kind.
This is going to be downvoted and people are going to talk shit but here goes.... This is a violation of the 8th Amendment. Pedophilia is probably a sexual kink. The problem is...If your fucking kink involves harming children you are a piece of shit. Get your shit together.
Considering what the nation is currently going through with regards to the ethics of the government forcing medical requirements on us (masks and vaccines), I think something like this would be used as a counterargument for forced inoculation.
"Oh so it's ok for the government to force castration for raping a kid, but they can't force vaccination on you so don't kill grandma"
I think if anything's done to them, it should just be death. Kill the kid fuckers and be rid of them. It's cheaper that way anyway.
If you want to reduce pedophilia castration isn't going to work. Punishments never work. Detection and certainty of punishment are effective deterrents.
Which means that an entire group of pedophiles who are currently downplayed and even celebrated needs to be outed and punished consistently. Female pedophiles are being given light treatment, sweatheart plea deals, or made into media celebrities. It's sick and it has to stop.
Just read through the comments and see how many times balls or dicks are mentioned. People don't even entertain the thought of female pedos, let alone rapists. You're letting a whole swath of victims down and creating new ones by letting the pedos continue to operate IN PLAIN VIEW.
Lastly, I'm not sure if the procedure outlined in the bill even works on women. If it doesn't, this law is unconstitutional for violating equal treatment under the law.
They still molest after being gelded- this is NOT an effective alternative to incarceration. The only solution for this communicable disease (most molestERs were molestED) is a life sentence or extermination, in my opinion.
Nah just put bullets in their heads and call it a day. This is "how to create serial killers 101". These pedos will still have their twisted sexual desires and leaving them free and castrated feels like it will backfire.
If you have enough certainty of guilt to castrate them... Just fucking shoot them. It's quicker, cheaper, and it makes sure they don't hurt anyone else.
FTA: The ACLU has taken issue with the law, and the Alabama chapter has called it "unconstitutional." Randall Marshall, the executive director for Alabama's ACLU, has said that chemical castration for sex offenders who harm minors under 13 shows that legislators "really misunderstand what sexual assault is about. Sexual assault isn't about sexual gratification. It's about power. It's about control."
Fine, I do agree with him on that Let’s just kill them instead, I prefer that anyway.
So it begins! Let the weiners hit the floor
Edit for a cause from user:EDKH_73618054
I’d like to hijack the top comment to promote a group I support that is advocating for this across the country.
It’s called POP Squad. They’re based out of Connecticut, but they have caught 174 online predators all across the country by posing as 13, 14 or 15 year old children on dating applications
http://popsquadlegit.com/
Come on man!
You ain't got what it takes Jack
Here's the deal!
Listen here... fat
This is just a bunch of Mularkey
Leg hairs! Push ups!
Since when did he leave his basement? Is it summer yet?
Malarkey
Dicks off for Harambe!!
Harambe was always just trying to #SaveTheChildren from the pedophiles on Epstein Island. #JusticeForHarambe
No justice no dicks
I heard that in chant mode.
Came here for this. Well done
They did this before...chemical castration of pedophiles.
It does not work.
Of those initial inmates they released back into the wild, the first two immediately went out and murdered children. The first guy murdered at least 3 before they could recapture him. Others, deemed "less violent", still sexually attacked kids.
Pedophilia, like transgenderism and homosexuality are NOT sexual orientations. They are spiritual illnesses.
The focus is the prevention of rape.
It's disgusting that we have to have this scientific experiment. 1st time offense should be off with their heads. We're "enlightened" though.
Enlightened, my ass.
EVERY civilization that normalized child rape fell. It is a primary, societal moral barometer.
Once child rape is okay, your civilization is cooked, and doomed to collapse.
Why?
Because Jesus said this, giving God's opinion on the matter:
"It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones."
There's always hope.
Most of the references in the New Testament by Paul to homosexuality translate specifically to pederasty which is a form paedophilia. Hell, Reddit had a thing about how great ancient Greek acceptance of homosexuality was reach the frontpage a couple of years ago not realizing or more likely not caring that those relationships were all pederast between an old man and preteen/teen boy. The practice still goes on in the ME. They don't believe it is gay or wrong to sleep with boys if they don't have body hair yet. Some Seal actually got in trouble for murdering some Afghan warlord who had a young boy chained to his bed during the Obama administration. It's a sick world.
It’s fucking crazy, if he was in a murderer’s house in the US and found a kid chained to a bed I’m pretty sure it would be defense from immediate danger. But in a warzone it’s apparently illegal.
Exactly. LGBTQ is fine but p*dophilia is absolutely wrong and harmful.
exactly Trans shit is just them trying to normalize mental illness. Trans people need to be thrown in institutions to protect the rest of society.
Agree. For me it's LGB and nothing more.
Agreed, 1000%
I got the details wrong but it's basically the same except the Afghan was a police chief and he was only beat up not killed and the American's involved were Green Berets. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2015/10/01/one-of-the-best-defenders-show-support-for-ousted-green-beret/
should have gotten an award
President Trump: "People have asked me if I'm going to push for Millstone Therapy. All I can say right now is we're looking into it. Some good minds have recommended it in the past, some of the best minds of all time."
The verse is referring to sin. Everything you said was solid, but we can't bend verses to mean something they don't say. There are plenty of other ones to choose from.
So raping a kid isn't sin?
Being a victim isn't a sin for the kid. The verse is about causing a child to sin.
How many victims go on to become pedophiles?
Children who are raped get messed up in the head and it can cause them to grow up to become depraved sinners, drug abusers, and prevent them from reaching their true potential in many many ways.
I agree. But making the connection between that truth and the verse is a stretch.
The other versions I have seen do not use “offend” and seem more clear than the one this pede used, unless it is actually a different verse altogether. https://www.biblehub.com/matthew/18-6.htm
Ever other version says something to the effect that it would be better to die than to cause a child to sin, lose faith, stumble, or be led astray. Unless there is some other context it would seem that sexualizing or raping a child could very reasonably cause those things, and of course grooming a child into being a “willing” participant would definitely be to lead them into sin.
Bible study is very interesting to me so I would really like to hear a more refined, nuanced, or contextualized interpretation if there is one.
What do you mean, Make America Legendary? As in, something of the past? As a form of human government we are already a legend in our own time, and everyone knows it even if they hate it. What you mean?
What are you referring to? I was making the point that the verse was referring to causing sin in children, but I never mentioned the government.
Thats what megachurches do daily.
That's what a lot of people do daily, unfortunately.
Hence why it should be off with their heads. The reason I think this is a scientific experiment is that our ancestors knew this stuff centuries ago. Rape? That's a hanging. Murder? That's a hanging. Kill the problem and the problem goes away.
This directly leads into a discussion on capital punishment. The goody two shoes in our society have tied our hands to our balls. We know how to handle this problem, but they won't let us do it.
They cut off the hands of thieves in India. No one stole anything after that.
The British Empire had The Bloody Code for hundreds of years. It was so difficult to catch criminals and still give a fair trial. Their solution was execution for even petty crimes. This wasn't the neck snapping hanging like in the movies. This hanging was a single loop that would strangle the condemned for minutes on end.... Both to demonstrate the power of the state and to entertain the locals. About the only time the executions were booed by the crowd was when young children were to be hung for pickpocketing. Eventually, the British code was changed because if the punishment doesn't even remotely fit the offense, then the excess punishment does little to deter the crime.
100 percent agree.
The punishment needs to be extreme enough that very few allow themselves to go there.
Chemical castration is useless anyway. Good for making libtard heads explode though. Go Alabama.
This may not be the final solution but it's a much better solution than the left's answer of trying to normalize pedophilia and argue that children can consent
Children can never consent. I agree with Trump.
Pedophiles should be executed.
FAST TRIAL, DEATH PENALTY
Public executions for all pedophiles.
Grab the popcorn! 🍿
agreed.
talking about respecting people that have those urges and their struggles to live with them, i mean it's an interesting thought experiment in terms of having a terrible urge to do evil and try to live righteously instead, but that's all it really is is a thought experiment. if somebody thought about being a serial killer but never did then that's great on them for controlling themselves but murderers should die, same with child molesters. you touch a kid you hang, and the moment we moved away from that is the moment that a lot of this shit got so out of control that we live in a world where the rabbit hole only ever goes deeper and deeper. talking about it does a lot to normalize the idea of it and you see lefties trying to add a P to the LGBTWTFBBQ name and it's just sickening.
Those who don't act on their urges should get mental help before they do.
good points, I think you're right. If Ted Bundy never hurt anybody but still had the same thoughts inside his head, he still wouldn't be somebody I'd want to turn my back on.
We're seeing that right now. Spirituality, willpower, attention span, this is fourth generation warfare. We are in a war with our hearts and our minds. Until God and Jesus matters, nothing else matters.
People with weak wills fall first. It's obvious who is strong and who is weak now.
Joshua 1:9
Fitting username. I think you're being extraordinarily daft. When you have a nation, if not a world, of sinners, you expect God to just do as you demand? God is the one who demands things of you, not the other way around. If you can't keep your dick in your pants, follow the most basic of moral codes that He has laid out for us, or even say a prayer on behalf of somebody else, you have no business asking for His Grace. God has already shown dozens of signs of His presence just in the last few decades, and yet you choose to ignore them because you can't be bothered to pick up a Bible and discern those signs for yourself. How about the fact that He has already laid out The End from the beginning? No man could ever do that, and yet it is extraordinarily obvious to even the most cursory reader of Matthew or Revelation that He has done exactly that. The more you continue to demand miracles of and blaspheme His name, the more you will be rejected.
I dont believe you have a brain cause I've never seen it...
Dumb analogy but it's TRUE. There are a million things we believe in that we cant see but we believe as humans... principle our minds, never found by science.
Why dont you start by forgiving God for whatever slight you think he did to you.
9mm is much cheaper
If you tried to blast every sinner, there would be no one left.
Not all sinners. Just the pedos.
Fair enough.
I am 99% in agreeance with Jesus about, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
We all suck, so no one can pick up a rock.
Except children.
It's not about vengeance. It's about protecting the young ones. All rhetorical snark aside these people should be locked up for life. It's a sad thing when our government refuses to perform the simple task of removing predators from our midst. The real answer, I guess is to be a good father and guard the children God blesses us with.
As a parent of 5, I can tell you first hand that all you have to do is look away for 2 seconds and one of your kids disappears from view.
That's all it takes.
Don't blame the parents for predator behaviors.
Yet we are all born with sin so everyone could throw the stone.
( So sorry Jesus, I am not trying to talk back)
But a piano wire noose is reusable.
This guy mafias.
Shame 9mm has risen in price
Have you tried buying ammunition lately?
Meh.. I think more research is needed.
They get chemically castrated, they get let out.
And they are still child predators.
Maybe your kid happens to be out riding their bike in front of your house that day.
Still good with that?
I say castrate the sick fuc*s and tag em. Then have an app or website to track their every movement. OR...just hang them. Either way.
I say that we go one step beyond castration, and that we follow Trump's advice on the matter:
Frankly, this is the only real solution. Pedophiles are completely incurable. They cannot be fixed (no pun intended) or successfully treated in any way.
They stop preying on children only when they're dead. Period.
Yep.
Why let them out? Keep them incarcerated AND castrate them.
And the family rolls that the future blah blah blah is miss understood, had a hard up bringing ( literally own family has this irony is too thick) , etc, what ever clown world bullshit for that day. The justice system is on the brink of collapse.
???
Reference to the young boy killed in SC by a black man and there was already excuses made.
That was NC, not SC.
Some kinds of broken can't be fixed.
Fuck yes!!!!!! It’s been a long time coming!!!! Fuck these pedos!!!!!!!!
What about all the men who marry crazy bitches who make up pedophilia claims and coach the kids to lie. Plenty of crazy bitches use this lie to get a divorce and custody of the kids.
Hopefully this law is for 100 percent proof cases idk but would be nice to have some way to punish these fucks that admit or undeniable proof.... im not sure of the details but understand this concern... also dont fuck crazy bitchs pals
This is exactly why I do not approve of punishments like this, false convictions are a thing and its bad enough we have potentially innocent people in jail or on death row.
I would expect this is not something for first time offenders. Might have something like a three-strikes-your-dick-comes-off rule.
How about shooting them in the head with a cheap 50 cent bullet?
Edit: How about hanging them with a rope and then shooting them in the penis and then the head with a cheap 5 cent .22 bullet?
No, I don't think that would do a good job of removing the penis at all.
lol
Funniest comment today
Thank you. It is funny. I have now accomplished something with my life.
God, I'm so depressed. Ugh.
Trump supporters really ought to set up a charity for helping out reformed SJW's like myself whose lives fell apart due to the communist programming. Maybe something like Goodwill. Our most pressing need is for adequate work, which we often have trouble finding because many of us, due to depression and isolation, have few or no work or personal references, no social life, no job, few practical skills, and a resume full of gaps and other embarrassments. Changing our political opinions does not magically make these problems go away.
At least I am in good physical condition and my family is helping me. I would hate to be depressed, panicky, lonely, poor, and FAT. That would be awful.
Sorry for ruining the joke. I am thankful for things, just a bit frustrated. Have a nice day :)
Have you tried CBT before? This book has helped me get a better handle on my emotions. It's clinically tested as well, so it's not just a bunch of self-help mumbo jumbo.
Ah, but there is another book which has much to say on these matters. Perhaps a few words I already know will be sufficient:
Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice! Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.
Saint Paul, Philippians 4:1-8 (Saint Paul)
Further Reading: Galatians 5:16-25 (Saint Paul) Ecclesiastes 2:22-24 (The Prophet Solomon) Psalm 23 (The Prophet David)
Psychology has greatly overcomplicated the practice of mental health. Our task is to behave ourselves, to love each other, to dwell upon that which is holy and beautiful, to busy ourselves with our Earthly labors, to feast in times of plenty as the Lord provides, to lay our burdens upon Christ, and to glorify God.
It's just, you know, a bit frustrating that I require some bureaucrat's approval before I can get back to those Earthly labors.
Depression is easy.
1.Go to the gym.
Start intermittent fasting (IF) and throw in some actual fasting as well once you get accustomed to IF.
Stop listening.
"What do you mean, just stop listening?!? Depresshun is a diseese!" Depression is also habitual. We are wired to remember negatives as an evolutionary mechanism to keep us from eating bad fruit or trying to hunt the big furry thing with the sharp teeth and pointy claws with no weapons. Once your body gets accustomed to a repeated chemical signal, you crave it (consider nicotine and smoking) and it can be very difficult to break for a lot of people.
Why do you think people today consume so much pornography? Dopamine. A chemical in your brain that gives you pleasure. Know what cures it? Not watching porn.
Taking a pill doesn't help. Re-wire your brain. You do this by making improvements in yourself. This creates self-reliance, which, in-part, creates self-esteem. Doing something you know is good for you will help start the rewiring.
Exercise is good. Vice is bad. Fasting does not match with my weight loss plan, which is going nicely.
Your description of the evolutionary reasoning behind depression is inaccurate. What you are describing is called "Operant Conditioning." Depression, and the closely-related Seasonal Affective Disorder, is more similar to hibernation. It is a means for the body to conserve energy by reducing general activity during winter, in captivity, during times of famine, and so on. Since food is plentiful in modern times, there is no longer a need for the body to do this. But when our minds perceive that we are experiencing hard times, our caveman brains still tend to make us "hibernate" when we don't need to.
I take an antidepressant, and it does help. They do not help everybody, and there are some side effects. I believe that the psychotic behaviors often associated with antidepressants are mostly due to interactions with other prescription drugs or street drugs, especially alcohol. Also, I believe much of the benefit associated with antidepressants is due to the fact that antidepressants cannot be taken safely with alcohol (thereby reducing or eliminating alcohol usage). I think that doctors should be more careful about prescribing antidepressants along with ADHD medication.
Anyway, I was mostly looking for comforting words, not actual advice. Also, I should not have indirectly asked for charity; that was just me being frustrated. It was not a serious suggestion. I am aware that I tend to offer advice instead of comforting words when I comment on the posts of others.
I know what I need to do. It's just a pain in the butt. Thanks for the encouragement.
slow clap beautiful.
And if Biden is any indicator, one does not need a brain to be a pedo.
.... well... shooting them in the "head" would remove the tip. ... just the tip of the penis.
Now that's just splitting pubic hairs.
i actually think that's better, because studies have shown castration doesn't often work, as the act is more about power, so they keep assaulting/abusing children even afterwards if they can.
Because, you don't need a penis to wreak havoc. (seriously, you don't)
This.
Ropes are also a form of renewable execution. It's like renewable energy but better!
NASCAR approves.
Lol
It also kills people!
Water is pretty cheap. we can get a rain barrel for drowning.
How about a guillotine?
Personally I like the national razor.
You don't have to worry about fraying.
Very economical, very green, averagely clean.
50cent?! Two rich for my blood. Might I interest you in a mag dump of .22 hollow?
I, for one, am all for bringing back the guillotine and public executions. People need to see their choices have real consequences.
Castration just seems a bit too slippery slopish to me. “Oh sorry we’re taking your nuts cause this dossier said you peed on children.” Or “Well Mrs Ford said you molested her as a child.” Know what I mean?
The problem is this procedure doesn't always stop violent sex criminals from offending. The death penalty is the only true solution for these sick people.
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Expert-says-castration-no-cure-for-pedophilia-1913426.php
Not sure if that link is supposed to be for or against the first statement. If you read through it, it did help prevent future cases.
Interesting, I really would not have expected that to be the case. I guess it's more about power, control, and sadism for them
Well we won't be seeing Joe Biden ever stepping foot in that jurisdiction...
Some how I think leftist will have a problem with this 🤔
Allen Turing, the father of the computer and a very crucial part in winning WW2 was castrated by the British for being gay. Which then led to his suicide
One of the more fucked up things to happen to a hero in recent history.
Spez: To add to this Turing was instrumental in cracking the Nazis Enigma code. He and his team developed technology to decipher the encrypted communications the Nazis were using to coordinate attacks. He used his knowledge to develop a digital device that could quickly run algorithms. The predecessor to modern day computing. It would have taken an insurmountable, and thus impossible, effort of human brains to achieve what his devices did with just a few people. It's not an exaggeration to say he turned the tide of war to favor the Allies. How did his country repay him? The British government discovered that he was gay. They chemically castrated him as being homosexual was a crime. All this after his brilliance helped lead the Allies to victory. The shaming and torture his government levied against him led him to commit suicide. It's unbelievable, to me, that all of his hard work and brilliance was dismissed in such a way that the Brits condemned him, in the era when this happened. RIP, Alan. You deserved so much more.
Your edit is amazing
Agreed, they could make a movie out of it
Wish he stuck around a bit longer. Testosterone injections were discovered around this time.
Wow this is a great example of the slippery slope working against what we're fighting for here. Fuck.
What if you’re a top cop and are knowingly withholding evidence that would free an innocent man on death row?
That is a true fact which heels up harris has done to further her career with a “perfect record”
“Top cop” means prosecutor. FYI.
Yeah man, I don't know why people are clapping for this. I fucking hate pedos, but I love our Constitution, and this is a crystal-clear violation of the 8th Amendment which horrifies me to my core. It also sets the precedent that castration is on the table as a punishment for crimes, and could thus be expanded as a punishment for other crimes as well.
All of that is holding aside the possibility that someone innocent may be convicted of the crime and then punished by the irreversible act of castration.
This goes against every fiber of my being as an American and I cannot support it.
This only applies to those applying for parole, it's not a direct punishment for the crime committed.
I dunno, be that as it may, it seems kind of like trying to loophole the constitution, to me.
If nothing else, try to remember that the pendulum of power always swings back around. We should never cheer for any new law or precedent if we would fear what the Democrats would do with that law or precedent, because it's not a matter of if they will be in power again, but when.
To what level can a prisoner consent? Is there really an actual choice available to a prisoner who is likely in solitary confinement/protective custody for potentially years on end?
Same goes for any other criminal punishment. Yet, we have laws.
Obligatory IANAL.
I don't see this affecting an innocent man because, if the article is correct, this is a requirement for those applying for parole. If an innocent man gets caught up in this, he would be appealing rather than asking for parole and thus this wouldn't apply to him.
This does assume the justice system working well enough that an innocent man will go free following an appeal and demonstration of innocence, of course, which isn't always going to be a given.
Depends on whether parole is faster than appeal. Every day a falsely convicted pedo is in jail is another day of existential terror.
It seems best reserved for repeat or high risk offenders. First time offenders should be given opportunity. Some people are provenly too high risk
And yet they love muslims and islam.
Clown world.
You'd be surprised (or not) at how many already do.
well, you got 3 downvotes (so far) so yeah some pedocrats are angry at this
Man castrated for his sexual preferences
-CNN
Ayyy
And women pedos don't exist?
Nobody is saying that. It's a more apt image when rendered in writing - sewing up a woman's box or removing ovaries doesn't elicit the same imagery. Castration implies some sort of appendage severed, like cutting off a hand holding a gun.
It's an artistic and literary argument, really.
Based.
Hello, based department??
And Pepe smiled...
Lol sadly I don't think this is constitutional even if I do agree with it
why not?
Over punishment, theres a real phrase for it. Same way we cant sentence someone to the rack.
Civilization comes with rules that dictate law. Used to be if you were bad enough you were put down like a bad dog. Here and now is different, and I often wonder of its better or worse.
I will need an actual source on public racking.
Maybe the wheel, but we dont do that either. Besides the massive fact this aint 1200 England. This is the 2020 USA. There is a reason we do things differently.
They learned the formula for a propper hanging, They added a wet sponge to the electric chair. They burned people, they drowned people, they crippled and maimed people, they removed hands and legs. They raped and castrated and destroyed entire lines of people.Took entiee races and cultures as slaves. And did all of that to them too. And it was a perfectly acceptable system at that time.
We learned that that is horrible. We may have wandered past a very important threshold. What a lot of people call the pendulums swing.
But we are hanging in tbe air at this point. Its all very exciting, but worrisome at the same time. So many things are happening. And honestly we need to be ready on the high side of this.
We must remain fair while they go mad. That is how we demolish this so called counterculture horseshit. All thats at stake is civilization, and truth be told loads of people dont care much for high density civilization.
Not many people have the guts to kill an animal let alone a person.
Besides that maybe state sponsored death should have very little pagentry. I think so. Maybe I am right. But on the off chance that the accused was actually innocent. Theyy only died. They are gone no matter what, but nobody had to skin him alive to do it. As little suffering as possible may be better than raping a person to death. Just my more than $.02
refreshing to see this reasonableness.
"cruel and unusual" is that phrase.
For me its more a matter of
a) the example used in article is about molesting toddler, but pedophilia now captures sexual relations with up to 18 year old in many jurisdictions. There were young guys in low 20s charged with such crimes for dating 16+ girls.
b) false convictions happen, especially when we go with higher ages where the #metoo, false accusations kind of stuff is not unlikely. there have been stories of girls conspiring to accuse and frame the same guy, and it happens among the 16/17 age bracket as well
c) i've yet to see any evidence that chem. castration prevents re-offending. afaik, crimes get more violent and that's about it.
The 8th amendment. Prohibits “cruel and unusual punishment”.
and not nearly as cruel as the crime.
Constitution only applies to humans, pedophiles aren't human. I'd say they're animals but I oppose animal testing and animal cruelty.
Agreed, but you need to lay out "beyond a shadow of a doubt" because all these random accusations getting too much credence would make me fear for my own safety in a system outlined here.
I’m not sure about this one tbh, while I hate pedophiles and wished they would either be locked up forever or dead, I’m worried that chemical castrations might not end at pedophiles. There was already the case of that 16 year old who was given estrogen in juvy, I’m worried that they might try and push it as a way to prevent crime or ‘male aggression’. https://web.archive.org/web/20200716171833/https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-15/teenage-boy-was-given-estrogen-developed-breast-tissue-while-in-l-a-county-juvenile-hall-lawsuit-alleges
Good point
Not only this, but the FBI seems to find ways to frame people for crimes they didn't commit.
Castration is very permanent. If we fuck up and castrate an innocent man, we're not going to be able to make the situation right.
We say innocent until proven guilty, and beyond a reasonable doubt, but we know how many normal people blindly trust FBI officials. I can't get over how this could break bad.
For reference, something insane, like 30% of prisoners on death row are exonerated after being convicted due to new evidence and crooked DAs like Kamala Harris withholding evidence.
Mixed feelings. A lot of women pull the rape card on men they're mad at. I could imagine a mom manipulating her kid to make up a lie about the father or step father because she's mad.
On the other hand, if there's hard proof I don't see a problem.
Imagine if the DA in your case was Kamala Harris. Even if the kid later confessed that they lied, the prosecution would still try to convict you and might even hide evidence.
A lot of those men dont go to trial, much less get convicted.
I think this is mostly a deterrent- or thats how it would be most useful. Pedophiles are sick in a way i cant comprehend, and are attacking the most vulnerable and defenseless. Castration is too kind.
Bad laws will always be abused. There are more falsely accused men than there are pedos.
she stated at a fundraiser that the problem she was fundraising for was massive?
Seems legit.
How many images can be produced from a single instance of pedophilia?
That's such a waste of time and taxpayer dollars. A bullet is so much cheaper
Agreed
Approved.
This is going to be downvoted and people are going to talk shit but here goes.... This is a violation of the 8th Amendment. Pedophilia is probably a sexual kink. The problem is...If your fucking kink involves harming children you are a piece of shit. Get your shit together.
Big, big nope.
The government should not be castrating anyone.
Females, too?
One of two people who brought this up. Everyone is making assumptions here.
"really misunderstand what sexual assault is about. Sexual assault isn't about sexual gratification. It's about power. It's about control."
It's not rape, that guy just had power and control over her!
Inb4 only whites can rape.
Sweet home Alabama!!
Ship em all to Alabama!
Ship ‘em and Snip ‘em! ✂️
I don't agree with this.
Government shouldn't have the power of castration.
I see no issue here, but that’s none of my business
It says chemical castration. It sounds like it’s reversible once they stop taking the drugs, but this article didn’t explain very well.
It’s not reversible. It kills your testes
If it only kills testes then this is unconstitutional on its face. It violates equal treatment under the law.
Okay good. This line is what made me think that.
It made it sound temporary.
There might be newer drugs these days but there will absolutely be permanent damage
Unfortunately, it does not.
Chemical castration begins to reverse itself as soon as you stop the drugs.
It’s actually done therapeutically for prostate cancer and the like.
How about castration via death by shark? Fuck perverts. No mercy.
Considering what the nation is currently going through with regards to the ethics of the government forcing medical requirements on us (masks and vaccines), I think something like this would be used as a counterargument for forced inoculation.
"Oh so it's ok for the government to force castration for raping a kid, but they can't force vaccination on you so don't kill grandma"
I think if anything's done to them, it should just be death. Kill the kid fuckers and be rid of them. It's cheaper that way anyway.
What are they gonna do to the female pedophiles?
You're only the second person I've seen in this entire thread bring this up.
More female sex predators in the news now than men .
This sounds like its going to open the door for castration as a punishment for other crimes in the future.
not in favor of this. False convictions do happen.
Plus, afaik it doesn't stop the real sickos from re-offending.
If you want to reduce pedophilia castration isn't going to work. Punishments never work. Detection and certainty of punishment are effective deterrents.
Which means that an entire group of pedophiles who are currently downplayed and even celebrated needs to be outed and punished consistently. Female pedophiles are being given light treatment, sweatheart plea deals, or made into media celebrities. It's sick and it has to stop.
Just read through the comments and see how many times balls or dicks are mentioned. People don't even entertain the thought of female pedos, let alone rapists. You're letting a whole swath of victims down and creating new ones by letting the pedos continue to operate IN PLAIN VIEW.
Lastly, I'm not sure if the procedure outlined in the bill even works on women. If it doesn't, this law is unconstitutional for violating equal treatment under the law.
They still molest after being gelded- this is NOT an effective alternative to incarceration. The only solution for this communicable disease (most molestERs were molestED) is a life sentence or extermination, in my opinion.
Nah just put bullets in their heads and call it a day. This is "how to create serial killers 101". These pedos will still have their twisted sexual desires and leaving them free and castrated feels like it will backfire.
A punishment worse than death. Many of them deserve it.
Chemical castration is temporary.
My only reservation is if this happens to the innocent. Will there be a remedy for this if that happens
This is excessive.
skidaddle skidoodle
your dick is now a noodle
If you have enough certainty of guilt to castrate them... Just fucking shoot them. It's quicker, cheaper, and it makes sure they don't hurt anyone else.
Unfortunately this doesn't work.
They tried this in other countries, and pedos with no penis still abused children.
Bravo!
As based as this may be, it seems like a violation of the 8th amendment, cruel and unusual punishment.
FTA: The ACLU has taken issue with the law, and the Alabama chapter has called it "unconstitutional." Randall Marshall, the executive director for Alabama's ACLU, has said that chemical castration for sex offenders who harm minors under 13 shows that legislators "really misunderstand what sexual assault is about. Sexual assault isn't about sexual gratification. It's about power. It's about control."
Fine, I do agree with him on that Let’s just kill them instead, I prefer that anyway.