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Tellguy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of course if you substract the elderly you get better results. I don't get your point.

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yukondave [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let me restate it for you. You claim that what Sweden did was not good because it killed the old and is not a good solution against Covid.

I say when you subtract the old you get a rate among everyone else that is much lower than the US AND they have shown group immunity since July as they now bounce along at almost 0, zero, roll deaths.

Rely on a vaccine for a disease we have never been able to build before? This was the right call and the over all loss of life going into the next flu season will show they did the right thing.

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Tellguy 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not saying herd immunization is the wrong way. We should do it in a controlled way, Sweden took a huge risk at the time. It is unclear if immunization is permanent or how the different strains behave. We should also do it with minimal loss of life. Administration of Morphine which makes it harder to breathe is not a treatment against Covid-19 but a death sentence for many elderly. I don't trust "people" who do that while complaining about the cost of pensions.

Who gets the money the state safes now that they are dead?

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yukondave [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here is some good news. Update on this subject on weather or not people have had previous immunity. The answer is yes.

“ We then showed that SARS-recovered patients (n=23) still possess long-lasting memory T cells reactive to SARS-NP 17 years after the 2003 outbreak, which displayed robust cross-reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 NP. Surprisingly, we also frequently detected SARS-CoV-2 specific T cells in individuals with no history of SARS, COVID-19 or contact with SARS/COVID-19 patients (n=37) “

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z_reference.pdf

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Tellguy 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have just read an article about people who got it again. Time will tell.

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Tellguy 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not saying herd immunization is the wrong way. We should do it in a controlled way, Sweden took a huge risk at the time. It is still unclear if immunization is permanent or how the different strains behave. We should also do it with minimal loss of life. Administration of Morphine which makes it harder to breathe is not a treatment against Covid-19 but a death sentence for many elderly. I don't trust "people" who do that while complaining about the cost of pensions.

“People suffocated, it was horrible to watch. One patient asked me what I was giving him when I gave him the morphine injection, and I lied to him,” said Latifa Löfvenberg, a nurse. “Many died before their time. It was very, very difficult.”

Who gets the money the state safes now that they are dead?

You can be against vaccination efforts while condemning the cucks who kill their grandparents.