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Yep!!!!! Can’t wait to see the liberal spin of this lmao. Update: here it is. These people are fucking pathetic! LIBS LOVE CREATING INSANE SCENARIOS IN THEIR HEAD TO BASH PRESIDENT TRUMP- they can never hate him w facts! The lib comments from r/politics start here & ofc since it’s positive news it’s not getting much attention by them:
Israel, UAE
RealGianath: Jared finally brought peace to the Middle East! Or he just told Trump he did, and instead has been on a coke bender with MBS and Kanye while they had random reporters horribly murdered for fun.
fi_fi
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Yeah nice try, bunky. We still see you. We still remember you. And we still know ALL you haven’t done for this country.
Keep trying though
Za_Lords_Guard: Long term, this could be a good thing (should both sides actually follow the terms of the agreement, and Trump doesn't say anything to mess it up, of course), but right now? This is just another distraction attempt. Coronavirus, economy, election integrity (or lack thereof...looking at all the Republicans fighting mail-in voting and not funding election security). That's all that matters to me for the short run.
It’s fucked how they literally wanted him to get murdered by the protesters and hold the bunker shit against him for protecting his safety. Even tho he openly walked the streets of DC one day later. Hell if I was Trump I would always stay in a bunker knowing all the sick fucks who want to kill me. GEOTUS could literally cure cancer and these people would still hate him. TDS is a hell of a drug!!!!!!!
I hate peace deals! Trump is racist! He LITERALLY hates POC (Persons of Colors)
We need Joe and Kamala in the White House. Trump doesn't know what he's doing! CNN says that Trump's peace deals are just another way to be racist and kill millions of POCs.
Joe Biden has been in politics 40 years; we need someone like him to bring fresh blood and new ideas to really change things up!
OF COURSE Trump signed a deal with Israel; he hates muslims. Trump OWNS Israel; he's using the Jews (he hates Jews) to fight wars with peaceful muslim countries like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia.
Expect a major breakout of war in the middle east soon. It will be Trump's October Surprise.
Literally the worst President ever.
Trump is Putin's puppet. Putin hates Jews and muslims. Putin and Russian OWN Trump; he is doing their bidding to eradicate Jews and muslims. And the media is covering for Trump by saying these are "peace" deals.
Biden/Harris 2020!!!
In case you don't get sarcasm on the internet; this is sarcasm
Bongino, former SS, said that the president has zero say on when he goes into the bunker. (Well, I guess if he just wants to, he can, but the point was that when the SS tells the president to go into the bunker, the president has to go.) He also said that it is much more common that the public knows.
This whole presidency has been the left REEEEing about the smallest things that every president in our lifetimes has done.
Does anyone with testosterone flowing through their veins even use Reddit anymore? It's like one huge echochamber that people that aren't fucking losers don't really give a shit about, fuck Reddit.
Whenever I'm low T enough to go on there I still stick to the rule that as soon as I see an anti-Trump post I'll close the tab, so I only last a few seconds which is nice.
I was asking a bunch of leftists to make an argument against Trump being the most anti-war, anti-MIC president in 30+ years. The only replies I got were 1) Jimmy Carter (maybe, but he escalated the Cold War), and 2) he iz too dumb to be anti-MIC. They get to shift from evil mastermind Russian infiltrator to bumbling dummy broke businessman whenever their narrative requires.
Prepping for Iran.... I think our next war is going to be with China and Iran... And I think the world geo politics players are signaling that to us with moves like these....
Peace in the middle east has long, LONG, been considered the highest diplomatic achievement anyone could ever achieve anywhere in the world. Many thought it was near impossible.
VSG masquerading as toddler with a tantrum employing Sun Tzu art of war deception.
well, now we know that not only will they still hate them, they'd argue that the cure for cancer will actually cause your heart to explode as it gives everyone you've ever met explosive supercancer of the ass, based on random studies that can't be replicated engineered by people with a huge financial incentive to make sure everyone has cancer.
Remember when Ol' Bill did so good in Syria he was afraid to stop the biggest genocide our generation has ever seen in Rawanda "Because we were afraid it wouldn't play well in media after Syria Somalia"?
The Camp David Accords were good, but the '94 treaty accomplished basically nothing. The Palestinians were never dealing straight in that one, unlike the Egyptians at Camp David.
There's an article out there with one of the Nobel judges or CEO's or something, him saying that giving Obama that shit was a mistake and basically made the prize worthless moving forward.
I love it when ostensibly highly educated specialists in their fields pretend like they just didn't know what most people who were not even paying attention to the issue knew at the time. They knew exactly what they were doing. It was given to him to give him unearned authority and loftiness of purpose to his actions going forward. It almost worked, but he bungled it badly.
Anyway, it had already been awarded to Kissinger, so was already a joke. And since at least the 90s, even on good years, it's been as significant as Time's Man of the Year. They just give it to whatever person is trendiest in liberal circles that year- Al Gore for the hubbub around his film, Rigoberta Menchu, because her memoirs were on bestseller and school reading lists that year, despite the memoir being mostly fiction, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave it to BLM or Robin diAngelo this year.
It's a racket- artificially elevate the individual and their "cause," wait a short while, then crown them in undeserved laurels that will elevate them even more.
Many US Jews are brainwashed to vote the way their parents did (Democrat), they think FDR and JFK are still in office. Thankfully Israelis have common sense and a survival instinct
I was about to say that's probably the most British turn of phrase I've ever heard, then I saw your user name. Yes, this is definitely the most British thing ever.
I had to look at your comment twice. Never heard it that one before, but it sounded like something my Brit mom would say. Of course, you're British! LOL. (She used to say "about as useful as the tits on a boar hog").
First person to bring me confirmed intel that major weapons smuggling is going on, doesn't matter where, I'll give you the tools to get rid of them...any takers?
Excellent point. I have had to dig and dig to find any mention of it. Even on here. I learned more in the comment sections of various web sites that I trust. A lot more. IDK but you might be on to something.
I don't get it either, and I'm Jewish myself. Jews supported FDR, and look what he did for us. (blocked Jewish refugees from the Nazis from entering the USA, refused to let the Army Air Corps bomb the tracks leading to Auschwitz, etc.) My parents have been registered Democrat since they were old enough to vote, and they're in their 70s now. I was a registered D until 2012 myself. (Changed after that election, when my choice was Zero or a write-in, and I said the hell with this.)
Of course they've been voting R in the general elections since Reagan; they supported Carter over Ford, if I remember correctly, and look what that got them. They still vote in the D primaries each year, but I suspect they're voting for whoever they think has the best chance of losing the general election.
Truly amazing and historic. That is our President. Just imagine what he could have accomplished in this time without Democrat and deep state obstruction.
Forget October surprise, just get shit done in August, September, October, etc., etc.
IDK how he gets anything done with the constant attempts by the Dems/Left to distract him and slow him down via harassment, criticism & attacks. He somehow just does not let their constant chatter & lies distract or bother him, and sticks with his plans. Then he pulls something like this out of his hat in the middle of it like this, while still handling the friggin "pandemic" which they caused, IMHO, & everything else. All while still trolling on Twitter and playing 4-d chess AND commenting on sports not infrequently. We are so lucky. He's amazing and truly one of a kind.
It's actually worked pretty well with Egypt, primarily since it's not a democracy, but controlled by a military general installed as president. If Muslims get to vote, they get violent, but an autocrat like Sisi in Egypt or the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan is more likely to work with Israel for security.
So as I understood it you have several blocs within the middle east. With core agents who don't get along, but second tier states more free in their negotiations.
The problem is that religious ideology driving some if not all their political actions complicates things to an extent. If their holy book and doctrine conflicts with another group, they might go to war with them or try to subjugate them despite how disadvantageous it would be for their country to do so.
I don't even pretend to claim any expertise trying to follow the dots in ME politics. The whole region is a sewer. But the bigger trends can be plotted, oil money, the open Shia/Sunni schism, etc. But then something can happen, and they all unite as Muslims, and then once that's over, they go back to blowing each other up.
I'd honestly put UAE in a category by itself below Israel but above the ones listed in number two.
UAE is kinda like the Switzerland of the Middle East because they didn't have any resources of their own, so they focused on becoming a center for trade and business and banking. There are even areas in UAE and particular their capital and trade hub of Dubai where religious laws are relaxed, which seems unthinkable given the tenor of other Middle Eastern countries (e.g. serving alcohol etc.)
There were periods where UAE seemed to behave almost in a completely secular way, although after the Arab Spring uprisings there was a swing back towards religious fervor and they started making showy arrests for things that were previously ignored (like Western women going around uncovered).
Still, pretty much all the Middle Eastern countries do business through Dubai. Western business people who can't set foot in countries like Saudi Arabia because of Israel stamps on their passports can safely meet their investors in Dubai. Iran probably launders a lot of their money through Dubai as well. All in all, the other Middle Eastern countries would lose a lot for attacking or trying to break ties with UAE which makes them a very good starting point for US/Israel efforts.
Two things Israel has are money and technology (mostly from us). If those start flowing freely into UAE and they start benefiting then other fence-sitting Arab nations are going to see it's a lot easier to hold their nose and do business with the Jew (and consequently the entire Western marketplace) than to sit out and only do business with backwards, barely-industrial Muslim nations.
Great response thanks. Unfortunately for us perhaps, it seems UAE recognizes their moment to not become Switzerland 2.0, but the replacement for Hong Kong.
I don't know how valuable it is to think of it this way. Due to the borders being created artificially by European interests, each country has powerful interests at odds with each other and aligned with differing countries.
For example, in Lebanon, especially in the south, there is a lot of representation by Hezbollah, which is Shiite, and aligned with/backed by Iran. However, Lebanon is a mostly secular country, with an uneasy power-sharing agreement between Maronite Christian, Sunni and Shiite factions that is probably not going to survive this unrest. Under the agreement, both the president of the country (and the president of banks) is required to be Maronite Christian, while the PM must be sunni, and the speaker of parliament Shiite. Now that the entire government has been forced to resign, look out for "interests" from the Sunni gulf states, Shiite Iran, US/Europe and Israel to all try to co-opt the movement to acquire power in the power vacuum. France and Israel have already very publicly stepped up; there are more (all of them, I'd imagine) lurking in the shadows and trying to pull strings.
In KSA, one of the more straightforward political situations in the region, the govt is firmly Sunni; they will give lip service in support of Palestinians against Israelis, but in reality they are deeply aligned with the US/UK/Israel partnership, and will always make decisions with that in mind. However, the oil-rich but money-poor south is mostly Shiite and they rule them with an iron fist, creating a dissident faction in their petroleum extracting region, and the royal family has always been paranoid about that above all, because they know if there is a revolution it will emerge from there. Almost all the "anti terrorism" measures that the Saudi govt refers to are just brutal crackdowns on dissidents in that region, rather than any crackdown on their own Wahhabi extremist groups. The Shiites in the south are aligned with the Yemeni shiites, who are aligned with Iran, KSA's biggest enemy, but neither is very well backed because Yemen is very poor. Thus, KSA has (with US/UK help) been able to brutally bomb and starve Yemeni civilians with very little opposition.
The more natural national border for KSA would be more north, so the divide would be along sectarian lines, and much of this conflict would have been avoided. But that would have placed most of the oil fields outside the country, which would undermine the whole point of the British Mandate creating/installing the royal family when they created the country.
Other countries I could go into are even more complicated and fractionalized. There really are no straightforward alliances or tiers.
All that matters in foreign policy is democracy or non-democracy. All the problems and wars involved non-democracies. Democracies do not war against democracies. It's these flawed leaders that need to create external enemies to control their own population to stay in power.
China has a central bank. Syria has a central bank. Iran has a central bank. Russia has a central bank.
All of the foreign policy problems in the world come only from non-democracies. When Russia takes steps back from their 90's constitution to a dictatorship, everyone reacts against it because of the potential for war.
Iran's central bank is owned by who? Is it connected to the IMF?
DPRK? Afghanistan? Libya? (Before we killed Kadafi) Look through our opponents since WWII, and see how their central bank status was before and after we threw blood and treasure at them.
Lmao Saudi and Israel have been secret allies for at least 30 years. Working together to destabilize the rest of the Middle East and dragging US resources and military into pointless wars and further destabilization.
I've been watching UAE politics for too long. This won't last a year and it'll absolutely be some UAE "splinter group" that derails it. Happens every time.
wtf I hate peace now
Yep!!!!! Can’t wait to see the liberal spin of this lmao. Update: here it is. These people are fucking pathetic! LIBS LOVE CREATING INSANE SCENARIOS IN THEIR HEAD TO BASH PRESIDENT TRUMP- they can never hate him w facts! The lib comments from r/politics start here & ofc since it’s positive news it’s not getting much attention by them: Israel, UAE RealGianath: Jared finally brought peace to the Middle East! Or he just told Trump he did, and instead has been on a coke bender with MBS and Kanye while they had random reporters horribly murdered for fun.
fi_fi 58m Yeah nice try, bunky. We still see you. We still remember you. And we still know ALL you haven’t done for this country.
Keep trying though
Za_Lords_Guard: Long term, this could be a good thing (should both sides actually follow the terms of the agreement, and Trump doesn't say anything to mess it up, of course), but right now? This is just another distraction attempt. Coronavirus, economy, election integrity (or lack thereof...looking at all the Republicans fighting mail-in voting and not funding election security). That's all that matters to me for the short run.
Find sick Palestinian boy, blame Jews. Repeat
It’s fucked how they literally wanted him to get murdered by the protesters and hold the bunker shit against him for protecting his safety. Even tho he openly walked the streets of DC one day later. Hell if I was Trump I would always stay in a bunker knowing all the sick fucks who want to kill me. GEOTUS could literally cure cancer and these people would still hate him. TDS is a hell of a drug!!!!!!!
We need Joe and Kamala in the White House. Trump doesn't know what he's doing! CNN says that Trump's peace deals are just another way to be racist and kill millions of POCs.
Joe Biden has been in politics 40 years; we need someone like him to bring fresh blood and new ideas to really change things up!
OF COURSE Trump signed a deal with Israel; he hates muslims. Trump OWNS Israel; he's using the Jews (he hates Jews) to fight wars with peaceful muslim countries like Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia.
Expect a major breakout of war in the middle east soon. It will be Trump's October Surprise.
Literally the worst President ever.
Trump is Putin's puppet. Putin hates Jews and muslims. Putin and Russian OWN Trump; he is doing their bidding to eradicate Jews and muslims. And the media is covering for Trump by saying these are "peace" deals.
Biden/Harris 2020!!!
In case you don't get sarcasm on the internet; this is sarcasm
You joke but this is exactly what Leftards replied to him on Twitter.
KEK, but scarily enough, this type of unhinged logic is exactly the kind of crap id expect from twitterfags...
I 100% thought it was legit copy pasta
Bongino, former SS, said that the president has zero say on when he goes into the bunker. (Well, I guess if he just wants to, he can, but the point was that when the SS tells the president to go into the bunker, the president has to go.) He also said that it is much more common that the public knows.
This whole presidency has been the left REEEEing about the smallest things that every president in our lifetimes has done.
OMG!! the SS?!!! Literally hitler!! Im Shaking!!
Does anyone with testosterone flowing through their veins even use Reddit anymore? It's like one huge echochamber that people that aren't fucking losers don't really give a shit about, fuck Reddit.
Agreed. I'm always amazed at the number of posters here who keep on telling us about the latest reddit atrocities. Who give a damn about reddit?
Nope, haven't been back in months. Don't even think about it.
Whenever I'm low T enough to go on there I still stick to the rule that as soon as I see an anti-Trump post I'll close the tab, so I only last a few seconds which is nice.
HAHHAHA! LMAO they are pathetic!
They have so much hatred inside of them I just wish they would all get put down like the sick puppies they are. Demented fucks
Forest from the trees. Holy hell. A 'distraction attempt' wtf kind of world do these people live in.
I was asking a bunch of leftists to make an argument against Trump being the most anti-war, anti-MIC president in 30+ years. The only replies I got were 1) Jimmy Carter (maybe, but he escalated the Cold War), and 2) he iz too dumb to be anti-MIC. They get to shift from evil mastermind Russian infiltrator to bumbling dummy broke businessman whenever their narrative requires.
I’m sorry peace happened to you
hahahahh sooo well said!! I cant stop laughing at this. Succinct, succulent and excellent.
Literally what is being said over on shithole/politics. Where this story has 14 upvotes and is top of controversial.
They will just do covert missions against each other.
Imma do a covert mission on your mom
I always do!
😂
Username checks out :)
You fucking get me all the time
Damn Soetoro... Not even shy these days
Daaayum
Like every country ever? Oh no.
0bama shipped pallets of cash to Iran. They still hate us and didn’t do the shit they promised for the cash.
0bama is a fucking cucklord bum. He should give his Netflix cash back to the American people.
Or did he ship them that money to pay them to keep doing what they are doing?
Obama: promises made, promises kept
It’s not his fault the majority of this country was too stupid to realize what he was promising
Minus the kickbacks.
They probably did stuff they promised HIM for the cash.
I would say give everyone involved a peace prize but since Obama got one it really doesn't mean much
Username checks out
I could really go for a golden shower right now if any of y’all need to urinate
Helloooo
Only is there’s $5000 worth of hot dogs involved
You dropped this: 6
Would you like some Walnut sauce with that?
Prepping for Iran.... I think our next war is going to be with China and Iran... And I think the world geo politics players are signaling that to us with moves like these....
You are correct, WW3 will be in asia and the middle east
WHAT. THE. FUCK. Is Our President going to bring PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST???
SUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKKK IIIIIIITTTTTTT LLLIIIIIIIBBBBBBBTTTTTTAAAAARRRRRDDDSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
It's absolutely Biblical. Just fantastic news!
Peace in the middle east has long, LONG, been considered the highest diplomatic achievement anyone could ever achieve anywhere in the world. Many thought it was near impossible.
VSG masquerading as toddler with a tantrum employing Sun Tzu art of war deception.
Kek wills it!
well, now we know that not only will they still hate them, they'd argue that the cure for cancer will actually cause your heart to explode as it gives everyone you've ever met explosive supercancer of the ass, based on random studies that can't be replicated engineered by people with a huge financial incentive to make sure everyone has cancer.
They would also argue about how cancer is actually positive and how curing it is a sign of privilege.
CNN: Fauci explains why Trumps cancer cure is risky
WaPo: Cancer cure will work on few, and upset health care market for many
WSJ: Trump's cancer cure will put Drs out of work.
MSNBC: Cancer cure will kill more than it heals.
Vox: Trump's cancer cure actually favors white people
Buzzfeed: If you want to get cured of cancer by a white male, you're racist. Here's why.
Critical Queer Theory Professor: The cure for cancer is a social construct.
After finding a vaccine for the common cold....
Peace is the prize.
And yet Barry Soetoro won a Nobel peace prize for record Middle East drone strikes... HONK 🤡🌎
But we weren't at war with them so this means nothing rEEEEEEEEE
twatter makes my head hurt
Remember when Ol' Bill did so good in Syria he was afraid to stop the biggest genocide our generation has ever seen in Rawanda "Because we were afraid it wouldn't play well in media after
SyriaSomalia"?Oops, Somalia. Had Syria on the brain. And Somalia was a huge fuck up in the early day of "New World Order", or Globalism, implementation plan.
The Camp David Accords were good, but the '94 treaty accomplished basically nothing. The Palestinians were never dealing straight in that one, unlike the Egyptians at Camp David.
Rabin getting shot didn't help, in fairness. But yeah, Arafat was a liar.
Because its PR accounts. Stay off Twitter
Obongo sits smug with his Nobel...Trump actually creates peace...and.....
There's an article out there with one of the Nobel judges or CEO's or something, him saying that giving Obama that shit was a mistake and basically made the prize worthless moving forward.
Well he's right. Anything Obama touches becomes worthless, anything DJT touches becomes gold
And he's correct. But at least he had the guts to say it!
I love it when ostensibly highly educated specialists in their fields pretend like they just didn't know what most people who were not even paying attention to the issue knew at the time. They knew exactly what they were doing. It was given to him to give him unearned authority and loftiness of purpose to his actions going forward. It almost worked, but he bungled it badly.
Anyway, it had already been awarded to Kissinger, so was already a joke. And since at least the 90s, even on good years, it's been as significant as Time's Man of the Year. They just give it to whatever person is trendiest in liberal circles that year- Al Gore for the hubbub around his film, Rigoberta Menchu, because her memoirs were on bestseller and school reading lists that year, despite the memoir being mostly fiction, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave it to BLM or Robin diAngelo this year.
It's a racket- artificially elevate the individual and their "cause," wait a short while, then crown them in undeserved laurels that will elevate them even more.
I found this one
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/04/nobel-secretary-finally-realizes-that-awarding-obama-with-the-prize-wasnt-such-a-great-idea-709911
Leftist Idiocy
2016: Trump’s gonna trigger nuclear war!!!!!!
😡😡😡😡😡
2020: Why won’t Trump trigger (nuclear) war!!!!
🤯😡😡🤯🤯
2020(if they win): If you won't do it, WE WILL!!!
Many US Jews are brainwashed to vote the way their parents did (Democrat), they think FDR and JFK are still in office. Thankfully Israelis have common sense and a survival instinct
Fox did a poll. 89% of religious Jews in the U.S. support President Trump.
Spez: the poll found 89% approval: https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-poll-orthodox-jewish-support
Were is this new town?
Its called Trump Heights
Trump Heights, in the Golan Heights
You are not supposed to ask that lol
In the Golan Heights, called Trump Heights
Oh oh...Walrus war-boy gonna be severely upset.
Nice name for Bolton... about as useful as a chocolate tea pot that man
I was about to say that's probably the most British turn of phrase I've ever heard, then I saw your user name. Yes, this is definitely the most British thing ever.
A lot of American veterans have started coffee companies since coming from overseas. I wonder if British vets start tea companies...
I had to look at your comment twice. Never heard it that one before, but it sounded like something my Brit mom would say. Of course, you're British! LOL. (She used to say "about as useful as the tits on a boar hog").
"Peace is The Prize" ~ President Donald John Trump
Best takeaway: POTUS says to Mnuchin that it's easier to negotiate peace in the Middle East than it is to negotiate with the Dems in Congress.
Omg you bigots we need them to be enemies for the greater good of future wars.
A president of peace.
Bush invades Obama bombs and Bill is a rapist.
Too bad Bill didn't rape the middle east and stay there
infowars.com
CNN right now: why peace in the Middle East is white supremacist.
They're not ABOUT to mention the word "peace" in the same headline as "middle east" https://i.maga.host/yJQi7qw.png
They can spin and twist all they want but that still spells
PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST
Well akshually... drumpfs only pursuing world peace to get votes for re-election.
“Why now?” Doesn’t he know you can’t do this during an election year?
I'd bet that this is going to be a legit narrative. Nothing is too absurd anymore
The reporter already asked that. "So why is this happening now?"
"Drumpf is only not eating babies because the voters don't like it."
What happened last week in the middle east? Could these events just be coincidence?
POTUS:
Israel:
POTUS:
What, you mean the accidental explosion that DJT said was an attack? You're not implying that leverage may be a useful negotiating tactic!?
Hmmm, good point. There are some things we aren't told, and sometimes it's better that way.
Excellent point. I have had to dig and dig to find any mention of it. Even on here. I learned more in the comment sections of various web sites that I trust. A lot more. IDK but you might be on to something.
It's an agreement to contain Iran.
Much needed.
What A Slap in the Face to the Clintons! LOL He Did What couldn't be done.
Bill Clinton tried this with Yasser Arafat and the Israel PM years ago.
Omar and Talube must be exploding in anger over it.
TRUMP needs to be on Mount Rushmore, he has earned his place there already.
The headline on Yahoo:
"Trump delays virus aid to block USPS funds"
fucking retarded commies.
Two things I’ll never understand. Catholic and Jewish Democrat’s.
My personal experience with both is that they’re atheists who just wear some minimal trappings of their faith.
I don't get it either, and I'm Jewish myself. Jews supported FDR, and look what he did for us. (blocked Jewish refugees from the Nazis from entering the USA, refused to let the Army Air Corps bomb the tracks leading to Auschwitz, etc.) My parents have been registered Democrat since they were old enough to vote, and they're in their 70s now. I was a registered D until 2012 myself. (Changed after that election, when my choice was Zero or a write-in, and I said the hell with this.)
Of course they've been voting R in the general elections since Reagan; they supported Carter over Ford, if I remember correctly, and look what that got them. They still vote in the D primaries each year, but I suspect they're voting for whoever they think has the best chance of losing the general election.
Making Obongo's 8 years look like a fucking joke.
IMO he did that in the first 120 days. Now he's just building a legacy that won't be topped in the next 500 years.
CNNLOL “President Drumtptftzfftt uses alleged peace deal to distract from his COVID racism failures”
“Blumph is desperate because he acts like a president and does things”
-r/politics
Peace in the Middle East. Why this is bad for the world.
Yuge!!!
Thank you, President Trump!
Truly amazing and historic. That is our President. Just imagine what he could have accomplished in this time without Democrat and deep state obstruction.
Forget October surprise, just get shit done in August, September, October, etc., etc.
IDK how he gets anything done with the constant attempts by the Dems/Left to distract him and slow him down via harassment, criticism & attacks. He somehow just does not let their constant chatter & lies distract or bother him, and sticks with his plans. Then he pulls something like this out of his hat in the middle of it like this, while still handling the friggin "pandemic" which they caused, IMHO, & everything else. All while still trolling on Twitter and playing 4-d chess AND commenting on sports not infrequently. We are so lucky. He's amazing and truly one of a kind.
That’s a good thing!
"Peace is a beautiful thing."
WTF Now I hate Middle East Peace??!
In before peace in the middle east is racist.
But, can be negotiated by contract for a period of time. Just like we did in the 1700’s and early 1800’s.
This. And, worse, this means Palestinians are gonna start chimping out even harder.
It's actually worked pretty well with Egypt, primarily since it's not a democracy, but controlled by a military general installed as president. If Muslims get to vote, they get violent, but an autocrat like Sisi in Egypt or the Hashemite monarchy in Jordan is more likely to work with Israel for security.
Quick question.
So as I understood it you have several blocs within the middle east. With core agents who don't get along, but second tier states more free in their negotiations.
Is this right?
UAE in 2, for sure. They are not aligned with Iran.
The basic breakdown is
Oil producing vs. non-oil producing
Then
Shia vs. Sunni.
Figuring out ME politics is a clusterfuck. They all backstab each other, then have photo ops shaking hands, when it benefits them.
The problem is that religious ideology driving some if not all their political actions complicates things to an extent. If their holy book and doctrine conflicts with another group, they might go to war with them or try to subjugate them despite how disadvantageous it would be for their country to do so.
I don't even pretend to claim any expertise trying to follow the dots in ME politics. The whole region is a sewer. But the bigger trends can be plotted, oil money, the open Shia/Sunni schism, etc. But then something can happen, and they all unite as Muslims, and then once that's over, they go back to blowing each other up.
Right. It's clans. All views are open to the next generation. Only Shia/Sunni divide remains
Uae is more in group 2
I thought UAE and Saudi Arabia had a big dust up a year ago. No?
I couldn't say for sure, they are both military allies of the US
I'd honestly put UAE in a category by itself below Israel but above the ones listed in number two.
UAE is kinda like the Switzerland of the Middle East because they didn't have any resources of their own, so they focused on becoming a center for trade and business and banking. There are even areas in UAE and particular their capital and trade hub of Dubai where religious laws are relaxed, which seems unthinkable given the tenor of other Middle Eastern countries (e.g. serving alcohol etc.)
There were periods where UAE seemed to behave almost in a completely secular way, although after the Arab Spring uprisings there was a swing back towards religious fervor and they started making showy arrests for things that were previously ignored (like Western women going around uncovered).
Still, pretty much all the Middle Eastern countries do business through Dubai. Western business people who can't set foot in countries like Saudi Arabia because of Israel stamps on their passports can safely meet their investors in Dubai. Iran probably launders a lot of their money through Dubai as well. All in all, the other Middle Eastern countries would lose a lot for attacking or trying to break ties with UAE which makes them a very good starting point for US/Israel efforts.
Two things Israel has are money and technology (mostly from us). If those start flowing freely into UAE and they start benefiting then other fence-sitting Arab nations are going to see it's a lot easier to hold their nose and do business with the Jew (and consequently the entire Western marketplace) than to sit out and only do business with backwards, barely-industrial Muslim nations.
Great response thanks. Unfortunately for us perhaps, it seems UAE recognizes their moment to not become Switzerland 2.0, but the replacement for Hong Kong.
I don't know how valuable it is to think of it this way. Due to the borders being created artificially by European interests, each country has powerful interests at odds with each other and aligned with differing countries.
For example, in Lebanon, especially in the south, there is a lot of representation by Hezbollah, which is Shiite, and aligned with/backed by Iran. However, Lebanon is a mostly secular country, with an uneasy power-sharing agreement between Maronite Christian, Sunni and Shiite factions that is probably not going to survive this unrest. Under the agreement, both the president of the country (and the president of banks) is required to be Maronite Christian, while the PM must be sunni, and the speaker of parliament Shiite. Now that the entire government has been forced to resign, look out for "interests" from the Sunni gulf states, Shiite Iran, US/Europe and Israel to all try to co-opt the movement to acquire power in the power vacuum. France and Israel have already very publicly stepped up; there are more (all of them, I'd imagine) lurking in the shadows and trying to pull strings.
In KSA, one of the more straightforward political situations in the region, the govt is firmly Sunni; they will give lip service in support of Palestinians against Israelis, but in reality they are deeply aligned with the US/UK/Israel partnership, and will always make decisions with that in mind. However, the oil-rich but money-poor south is mostly Shiite and they rule them with an iron fist, creating a dissident faction in their petroleum extracting region, and the royal family has always been paranoid about that above all, because they know if there is a revolution it will emerge from there. Almost all the "anti terrorism" measures that the Saudi govt refers to are just brutal crackdowns on dissidents in that region, rather than any crackdown on their own Wahhabi extremist groups. The Shiites in the south are aligned with the Yemeni shiites, who are aligned with Iran, KSA's biggest enemy, but neither is very well backed because Yemen is very poor. Thus, KSA has (with US/UK help) been able to brutally bomb and starve Yemeni civilians with very little opposition.
The more natural national border for KSA would be more north, so the divide would be along sectarian lines, and much of this conflict would have been avoided. But that would have placed most of the oil fields outside the country, which would undermine the whole point of the British Mandate creating/installing the royal family when they created the country.
Other countries I could go into are even more complicated and fractionalized. There really are no straightforward alliances or tiers.
All that matters in foreign policy is democracy or non-democracy. All the problems and wars involved non-democracies. Democracies do not war against democracies. It's these flawed leaders that need to create external enemies to control their own population to stay in power.
You're missing a key ingredient. To see who doesn't have a central bank, just look who the US military fights against.
China has a central bank. Syria has a central bank. Iran has a central bank. Russia has a central bank.
All of the foreign policy problems in the world come only from non-democracies. When Russia takes steps back from their 90's constitution to a dictatorship, everyone reacts against it because of the potential for war.
Iran's central bank is owned by who? Is it connected to the IMF?
DPRK? Afghanistan? Libya? (Before we killed Kadafi) Look through our opponents since WWII, and see how their central bank status was before and after we threw blood and treasure at them.
He won't get the Nobel Peace Prize. But like he once said. World Peace is a far far greater gift.
The “Donald J. Trump” accords would have been great
What I see here is a coalition forming between Sunni countries and Israel against Iran, a Shiite non Arab country.
Lmao Saudi and Israel have been secret allies for at least 30 years. Working together to destabilize the rest of the Middle East and dragging US resources and military into pointless wars and further destabilization.
That’s why they never bombed each other.
So exciting! So proud of POTUS!
Worst Hitler ever.
Trump needs to end the states forcing mandatory bullshit mask orders. Fucking faggot cocksuckers abusing power with no set numbers.
So Israel gets peace and America is on the brink of civil war.
Color me surprised...
Blame the dems. Arabs more reasonable than dems...
Can we all just appreciate how he patiently went around the room and allowed every member of the team to have his own moment. He is on point today.
Ah ah savage,
Can’t wait to see the spin on this one. Such a solid win!
Let's hope this is the beginning of the end of US involvement in the Middle East.
C'mon man!
I've been watching UAE politics for too long. This won't last a year and it'll absolutely be some UAE "splinter group" that derails it. Happens every time.
Is Kushner a real life version of Michael Cera's movie characters? The guy looks like a mannequin that came to life. Loosen up a bit dude lol
Pretty obvious when you think about it
So wait, you mean we don't have to send them $1.7 Billion in cash, on pallets, in the middle of the night to call it a peace treaty. Weird ...
What a boss.
"Do you want to say a few words"
"You're the best Mr President, you da man, this wouldn't have happened without you"