It sucks bad. My dad doesn't want to see his grandson or me and he keeps my mother hostage lately and this is something that has developed over the last few years. Also he has had my mother's cell phone disconnected. This is after I told him covid was over hyped bs 3 months ago and in the same conversation he tells me that my president is a tyrant and then I tell him he doesn't understand how government works. That is the last I will ever hear from him I am afraid.
This is the kind of shit where local authorities will often step in and give someone else power over your mother. Dad has NO LEGAL power to take or shut off mom's cell phone. This is abuse, and I say this as someone that doesn't like to get government involved.
I'm not sure how I would react to this situation. In my own family, I know I would tell dad what's up, and if he responded negatively, we would most likely throw down on the spot. She may be his wife, but she is also the person that gave you life. Watch out for her.
Man Pede, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope that truly isn't the last you'll hear from your dad, that he comes to see the truth, lets your mom free, and that she's happy and safe right now.
You can actually take the high road on this later. If he ever tries to debate you again, just tell him you're not going to because he isn't willing to educate himself. The shame of that will make him defensive and just point back to this moment. You couldn't have made it easier for him to revise his beliefs, but he's either (a) too stubborn to change his opinion in the face of massive evidence opposing his viewpoint or (b) too lazy or foolish to comprehend. He won't want to be either option. Maybe it'll open him up down the road to actually learn.
Keep going back to this every time he wants to debate or argue about his positions until he agrees to read the HCQ site and admit he was wrong.
Arguing with fools is not about logic, you have to appeal to their pride.
I will say, don’t give up hope. I thought I had totally destroyed a friendship with a neighbor over HCQ but the neighbor is actually coming around. I’m not hoping for a Trump voter, but acknowledging that the media don’t have our best interests at heart is a big deal for someone like this. Feed them the never ending redpills.
Invite him over to shoot up Clorox, and swallow UV lamps whole.
Isn’t it funny how so many who loudly exclaim “western medicine” Doctors and Big Pharma are a scam and will try any holistic naturopathic homeopathic yoga crystal vegan vitamin cure are now championing Fauchi and “the experts”. I fart in their general direction, and I myself smell of elderberries.
Did he change his tune? Hopefully your dad is a little more grounded when than most people i run into. Its hard when its family. Ive been sending that to people and just get back the regurgitated narrative, "thats not a reputable source".
Mean while CNN is getting sued for hundreds of millions of dollars.
its their new tactic
Spout fake news.
Reject counter arguments by discrediting sources as "fake news".
Justify your reasoning by stating that fake news said so.
Lol I wish. No amount of reason logic or evidence will change his mind. Hes like the robots in that HBO show who can only see what they've been programmed to see
My dads the same, although he only watches local news (in Utah!) which shows you how bad the liberal bias has infiltrated all media if it can turn someone who was largely apolitical, in a conservative state, against trump.
But the past couple of weeks I decided to Inundate my dad 5-10 times a day with news, facts, etc. after he sent me a weak ass anti trump meme (I previously never sent him political shit)
he largely ignores everything I send, but sometimes he comes back with a weak ass rebuttal and I shut his shit down he goes quiet again
In addition to c19study.com I also recommend linking people to hcqtrial.com. It has a large amount of scientific evidence on the effectiveness of HCQ to combat the virus.
You just have to move on as if he has agreed with you, let him know that you know he agrees. If he freaks out, just say that if he disagreed he would have brought up a legitimate critique. If he keeps saying he "doesn't have time," insist that he says that because he knows you are right and he is wrong. Rinse repeat.
My TDS dad was so excited to tell me about kamala harris plan to lock us all inside for 6 months and force us to take thousands of our own Dollars to "stimulate the economy' as payment so I called him a socialist nazi and he went bonkers
I asked him how forcing all the healthy people who have a 99.9% survival rate inside is supposed to be "stimulating the economy" and his head nearly exploded. You could nearly see steam coming out of his ears
I remember when I figured out I was in a bubble. I had fun leaving it. Some people seem horrified to even think about possibly being in a bubble, while they spend all day browsing r/worldnews
You poor young men are being raised by weak men. We can't pick our parents but every man knows what it takes to be a man. Weak men pretend not to know so they can take the childish course of attempting to reason against it.
I work in a medically related field. I understand how studies are designed and what they say, and read the actual studies, not what CNN, Fox or the AP says about them. However my TDS family members smirk like I am brain washed when I try to explain why the studies of HCQ at toxic doses or late in Covid didn't work.
Ummm, yeah I am the one that is brainwashed. I readily admit it doesn't seem as useful in late Covid, but that was never the claim.
The same people think Cuomo did a great job but Florida and Texas botched response, even when shown numbers.
My sister is a huge democrat, former republican but her democrat husband flipped her left. Sent her 2 videos of Joe Biden's gaffes and racist history and she just said she was putting her kid to sleep so she couldn't watch it and never did.
I've lost all respect for someone close to me, under very similar circumstances. It's really sad to see. I hate to play the left's game of cutting off social connections based on politics, but I really cannot stand the nonsense this person sucks in and vomits out every day, every night. I think I'm doing them a favor by avoiding them because I know I would get worked up if I tried to confront their beliefs again.
Oh he has ignored it for two weeks and said he doesnt have time to look, of course
It sucks bad. My dad doesn't want to see his grandson or me and he keeps my mother hostage lately and this is something that has developed over the last few years. Also he has had my mother's cell phone disconnected. This is after I told him covid was over hyped bs 3 months ago and in the same conversation he tells me that my president is a tyrant and then I tell him he doesn't understand how government works. That is the last I will ever hear from him I am afraid.
This is the kind of shit where local authorities will often step in and give someone else power over your mother. Dad has NO LEGAL power to take or shut off mom's cell phone. This is abuse, and I say this as someone that doesn't like to get government involved.
I'm not sure how I would react to this situation. In my own family, I know I would tell dad what's up, and if he responded negatively, we would most likely throw down on the spot. She may be his wife, but she is also the person that gave you life. Watch out for her.
Edit: This is a big fucking deal.
Agreed you need to get your mom away from this psycho at this point. That's terrifying.
Man Pede, I'm sorry to hear this. I hope that truly isn't the last you'll hear from your dad, that he comes to see the truth, lets your mom free, and that she's happy and safe right now.
Damn that's crazy. Regardless of how you feel about politics, how can someone let it divide family. Hope it gets better for ya, pal.
How old's your father?
That's why you make your own family, and have little Trump cheerleaders at home
You can actually take the high road on this later. If he ever tries to debate you again, just tell him you're not going to because he isn't willing to educate himself. The shame of that will make him defensive and just point back to this moment. You couldn't have made it easier for him to revise his beliefs, but he's either (a) too stubborn to change his opinion in the face of massive evidence opposing his viewpoint or (b) too lazy or foolish to comprehend. He won't want to be either option. Maybe it'll open him up down the road to actually learn.
Keep going back to this every time he wants to debate or argue about his positions until he agrees to read the HCQ site and admit he was wrong.
Arguing with fools is not about logic, you have to appeal to their pride.
Never let them be correct. Never be cock sure unless you absolutely KNOW the answer.
I will say, don’t give up hope. I thought I had totally destroyed a friendship with a neighbor over HCQ but the neighbor is actually coming around. I’m not hoping for a Trump voter, but acknowledging that the media don’t have our best interests at heart is a big deal for someone like this. Feed them the never ending redpills.
Invite him over to shoot up Clorox, and swallow UV lamps whole.
Isn’t it funny how so many who loudly exclaim “western medicine” Doctors and Big Pharma are a scam and will try any holistic naturopathic homeopathic yoga crystal vegan vitamin cure are now championing Fauchi and “the experts”. I fart in their general direction, and I myself smell of elderberries.
Nice touch with the elderberries. Take and upvote.
Well duh it conflicts with his programming. You should probably send him something about orange man bad so he can agree. This is all your fault!
Does your dad know he is a fucking pussy?
I'm 60 and I have the opposite issue. My twenty something kids are freaked out. Weird.
Even if HCQ didn’t work, decadron has been proven to save lives.
Did he change his tune? Hopefully your dad is a little more grounded
whenthan most people i run into. Its hard when its family. Ive been sending that to people and just get back the regurgitated narrative, "thats not a reputable source".Mean while CNN is getting sued for hundreds of millions of dollars.
its their new tactic
Lol I wish. No amount of reason logic or evidence will change his mind. Hes like the robots in that HBO show who can only see what they've been programmed to see
I send my mom one of the more egregious Biden groping videos, she sent me a link to a list of republicans that are pedophiles too. Fucking clown world
Classic whataboutism. You should very clearly say to her "yeah, those guys are scum too. What does that have to do with Biden?"
“So you think I should vote for those guys?”
Two wrongs make a right? Or it could be that she's ok with pedos on the right and the left?
Even they broke through though...
My dads the same, although he only watches local news (in Utah!) which shows you how bad the liberal bias has infiltrated all media if it can turn someone who was largely apolitical, in a conservative state, against trump.
But the past couple of weeks I decided to Inundate my dad 5-10 times a day with news, facts, etc. after he sent me a weak ass anti trump meme (I previously never sent him political shit)
he largely ignores everything I send, but sometimes he comes back with a weak ass rebuttal and I shut his shit down he goes quiet again
In addition to c19study.com I also recommend linking people to hcqtrial.com. It has a large amount of scientific evidence on the effectiveness of HCQ to combat the virus.
Oh he has ignored it for two weeks and said he doesnt have time to look, of course
He's informed because he watches the news...
You just have to move on as if he has agreed with you, let him know that you know he agrees. If he freaks out, just say that if he disagreed he would have brought up a legitimate critique. If he keeps saying he "doesn't have time," insist that he says that because he knows you are right and he is wrong. Rinse repeat.
My TDS dad was so excited to tell me about kamala harris plan to lock us all inside for 6 months and force us to take thousands of our own Dollars to "stimulate the economy' as payment so I called him a socialist nazi and he went bonkers
I asked him how forcing all the healthy people who have a 99.9% survival rate inside is supposed to be "stimulating the economy" and his head nearly exploded. You could nearly see steam coming out of his ears
I remember when I figured out I was in a bubble. I had fun leaving it. Some people seem horrified to even think about possibly being in a bubble, while they spend all day browsing r/worldnews
Sad but fascinating. Amen. I just wish they'd quit trying to burn my favorite country to the ground because of the color of my skin tbh 😔
After your dad reviewed this site, what was his response?
Oh he has ignored it for two weeks and said he doesnt have time to look, of course
Has time to bitch though, right?
You poor young men are being raised by weak men. We can't pick our parents but every man knows what it takes to be a man. Weak men pretend not to know so they can take the childish course of attempting to reason against it.
Oh he has ignored it for two weeks and said he doesnt have time to look, of course
if masks save even 1 life they're totally worth it!
ok now do HCQ. reeeee
I'm sorry your dad is a moron. At least you dont need to feel bad when you dont take his advice or get in an argument with him.
I work in a medically related field. I understand how studies are designed and what they say, and read the actual studies, not what CNN, Fox or the AP says about them. However my TDS family members smirk like I am brain washed when I try to explain why the studies of HCQ at toxic doses or late in Covid didn't work.
Ummm, yeah I am the one that is brainwashed. I readily admit it doesn't seem as useful in late Covid, but that was never the claim.
The same people think Cuomo did a great job but Florida and Texas botched response, even when shown numbers.
You Can't use HCQ because there are no "acceptable" doubleblind studies on the effectiveness agains COVID19 specifically.
You Must use a mask even though there are no studies double blind or not that show its effectiveness against COVID19 specifically.
Yeah but the mask are science silly. You can have sex through a glory hole and you are keeping the community safe.
Thankful for based parents.
Every visit we re-watch election meltdowns as a family.
My dad and I make sure neither of us has missed anything on .win when we talk on Sundays.
My sister is a huge democrat, former republican but her democrat husband flipped her left. Sent her 2 videos of Joe Biden's gaffes and racist history and she just said she was putting her kid to sleep so she couldn't watch it and never did.
Now tell him about Sweden.
Hey, sorry about your idiot father.
I've lost all respect for someone close to me, under very similar circumstances. It's really sad to see. I hate to play the left's game of cutting off social connections based on politics, but I really cannot stand the nonsense this person sucks in and vomits out every day, every night. I think I'm doing them a favor by avoiding them because I know I would get worked up if I tried to confront their beliefs again.
You need to convince your dad to get covid—go to a college party or something..do it
Dang ur dads a cuck