Just reuse old decorations. If it isn't made of foam and plastic it will last for a long time. The only real problem with christmas deco is that the christmas light strings are so cheaply made they can't last longer than 2 years without burning out. Still looking for decent lights.
That's deep, hadn't really thought of it like that! Chintzy trinkets, fake trees, string lights, game consoles, novel useless gifts, lame toys and stocking stuffers, electronics, phones/accessories, etc... How much revenue funnels directly to china between black Friday and Christmas day?
I get that you're being ironic. But it may be of interest that for most of the prewar 20th century, the source of most glass Christmas ornaments was a small town in Eastern Germany called Lauscha.
It's not a quaint little town full of Old World craftsmen turning out ornaments in their basements any more, but Lauscha still sells Christmas decorations:
Nowadays, of course, the cheap Chinese slave-labor knockoffs dominate the market. But you can still find the old German glass ornaments at antique shops, if you know what to look for.
Interest accrued over that amount of time could account for such a high number. Of course, the CCP will claim it was borrowed by the Nationalist Government and tell us to get it form Taiwan...but then they would have to acknowledge the existence of the Nationalist government...WOW, what a predicament.
Until you think about the fact that China can use this to prove the legitimacy of their ownership of Taiwan.
What this really is is acknowledging China's legitimate claim to Taiwan in return for their re paying the debts for the Taiwanese government that they claim as theirs.
Trump could propose a bill to buy up all the privately owned debt with US Treasury Bonds. Then the administration could use it as a HUGE bargaining chip.
1.) Recognise Taiwan
2.) Forgive all our current debt with them
3.) etc...
Well, Obama paid $1.2B in interest to Iran (about 9% annual interest) on a non-interest bearing account, so we should tack on an additional 9% to whatever interest we were actually owed.
So a 200-350 Mile long Mass Driver that can shoot 2 tons an hour for 230 days of the year investment for space?(Just to mention it does get higher the longer it works since experience and techniques can be developed)
It is more complicated than that because China owes it to US bondholders, not the US government, so the best we could do is cancel China's debt and have the US pay these bondholders instead. Repatriating that much debt would probably destroy the dollar.
Doesn't really matter. If they have half a trillion, they would mobilize it from the entire country and buy more from others. If they manipulate currency, other countries are stuck with the bill.
It would actually be better for us if they don't have it because they would need to make deals with other countries ane lose money along the way. We can verify if the gold is not real.
We did NOT owe billions to the Shah of Iran. We owed $400 million. And that was BEFORE any payout for the hostages Iran took (which is still in litigation because the World Court are anti-American bastards). That money was, even back with the Shah, in a non-interest bearing account. But your logic is completely sound.
The Chinese will likely say that they don't have to because they're not the same government that took the debt.
They of course expected the UK to honour the agreement that was signed with the government before communist China.
The UK should've torn up that treaty once the communists took over, no quarter for communists.
That could actually be an extremely important arguement. Im wondering if the UK had debt and trapped them into paying it at some point by honouring the agreement.
Our government should then use that money to pay off debt as we sever all market ties with China.
I believe it was very foolish for Richard Nixon to open up trade relations with a hostile power, which is the same as enriching Al Quaeda or even the Nazis during WWII.
If American corporations desire cheap labor, then they should invest in India or Mexico, IMHO.
I can see why Nixon did it, though. China was infinitely weaker compared to today, and turning them against the Soviet Union was one of the keys to breaking the Eastern Bloc. The real problem came when Bush and Clinton tried to bring them into the "global community" and the WTO. After the USSR collapsed, we should have turned the screws on China right away.
I can see why Nixon did it, though. China was infinitely weaker compared to today,
China was weaker back then, but still very, very strong. And if they were infinitely weaker, then they have grown infinitely stronger, no thanks to us enriching them in trade.
turning them against the Soviet Union was one of the keys to breaking the Eastern Bloc.
We allied with China against the Soviet Union? That seems prudent and not unheard of, as we allied ourselves with the Soviets against the Nazis during WWII.
Bush and Clinton tried to bring them into the "global community" and the WTO.
Yet, the first step to make that possible appears to have been taken by Nixon.
Look, I'm not someone who hates on Nixon. In fact, this is my only grievance with him, honestly.
He is a hero to Israelies and saved that sacred and holy nation.
And as the lyrics are sung,
🎵Watergate does not bother me, does it bother you?🎵
—Lynyrd Skynyrd, Sweet Home Alabama
After the USSR collapsed, we should have turned the screws on China right away.
If you are correct in that we allied ourselves with China in order to help collapse the USSR—in the same principle as our Navy allying herself with the Italian Mafia during WWII—then
turning the screws on China right away
logically follows as the alliances purpose has been fulfilled and new principles then govern.
That is an intriguing take on history that I have not heard of before. Fascinating.
And, if you're interested, then these are sources on the alliance between our Navy and the Mafia during WWII:
As punishment for bringing COVID to the world you can sell all US Treasury debt you hold back to us at an 80% discount. We will borrow money at negative rates from the fed to pay it back. 🤑
We could just cancel $1.6T of the debt the US has borrowed from them and say, "There, we did it for you." I'd be fine with that. Then refusing to pay the rest of the debt to them as Wu Flu reparations.
She talks about why this debt swap should've already occurred under US law, and if not due to influence from Wall Street and DC they'd have already pulled the trigger.
Just to get your blood boiling, the Chinese have never paid a penny to US bondholders, while simultaneously paying interest on their bonds held by other countries. We've, the US taxpayer, been paying China interest the entire time, on-time, every time.
I had no idea we held so much Chinese debt, and I consider myself pretty fiscally literate on such matters.
Goes to show how dangerous a country without a free press really is and how fast it can go sideways.
"ModernKnight 1 point 8 minutes ago +1 / -0
We could just cancel $1.6T of the debt the US has borrowed from them and say, "There, we did it for you." I'd be fine with that. Then refusing to pay the rest of the debt to them as Wu Flu reparations."
I have a strong 💪 Feeling that is what is being set up. And before the election also.
It's insane that people don't realize China owes the US more debt than the US owes China. And that's outside of the intellectual property theft and one sided trade deals. China has literally siphoned tens of trillions of dollars of wealth from America, their whole country is built and modernized on American backs.
Despite China’s hatred of the US, of all the old world empires during last years of imperial China, America was the one who was most merciful towards them. All the European nations such looted and pillaged the wealth but the US actually just held them in debt.
How about they repay is for the chinese aids and every future kung flu that comes from the country . Better yet we should just turn that whole dirty ass country into glass
Unfortunately, woodblock art from long before Hiroshima and Nagasaki shows that it is a longstanding fetish under the Rising Sun. The bombings are probably the closest any nation has come to deliberately nuking furries.
GOP senator talks shit , looking for more street cred.
"The measure is co-sponsored by Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R.-Tenn, and a House measure led by Rep. Mark Green, R-Tenn. is forthcoming. Resolutions lack the force of law held by a bill, though they reflect the will of lawmakers."
China will probably repay it in fake gold bars.
Fake $20 bill
Dollar tree toys
Well, Santa Clause had a partner that ate children, Krampus..right there infront of your face the entire time.
SHE IS ON THE COMMUNIST PARTY LIST ALONG WITH THE REST Of THEM.
Dude, Santa is not a lie!
"Santa" is a lie.
St. Niklaus was remembered for making a personal sacrifice to save innocents from injustice.
Commercialized "free" consumer goods is basically the polar opposite of what he was remembered for.
Created to market cocaine to children
Saturnalia? Gross.
Just reuse old decorations. If it isn't made of foam and plastic it will last for a long time. The only real problem with christmas deco is that the christmas light strings are so cheaply made they can't last longer than 2 years without burning out. Still looking for decent lights.
I buy them on sale after Christmas. I plug in last years lights if they don’t work I toss them and open another 75% off box.
My dad used to throw them away with the tree and buy them after xmas at 75 off when I was a kid.
That's deep, hadn't really thought of it like that! Chintzy trinkets, fake trees, string lights, game consoles, novel useless gifts, lame toys and stocking stuffers, electronics, phones/accessories, etc... How much revenue funnels directly to china between black Friday and Christmas day?
I know a lot of dumb cucks who spent their stimulus checks on propaganda boob-toob big screen 4k upgrades...
Oddly enough, those stimie checks are about right on the money for an entry level ar10/15... Hmmm
RIGHT ON.
I get that you're being ironic. But it may be of interest that for most of the prewar 20th century, the source of most glass Christmas ornaments was a small town in Eastern Germany called Lauscha.
It's not a quaint little town full of Old World craftsmen turning out ornaments in their basements any more, but Lauscha still sells Christmas decorations:
https://www.krebslauscha.de/christmas-ornaments/home
Nowadays, of course, the cheap Chinese slave-labor knockoffs dominate the market. But you can still find the old German glass ornaments at antique shops, if you know what to look for.
dollar tree vaccines
Rubber dog shit from Hong Kong
KEK
Chocolate coins.
Chyna ain't that kinda guy
He ain't trynta win!
And you must be the Monopoly guy....
I already got my payment in the mail, some pretty sweet looking seeds. They smell like bat shit though...
Fake iPhones
Fake IDs
Fake ballots
Fake $20s
Real full-auto conversions for Fully-Semi-automatic guns.
Man, I put a 1 round mag mod on my 30 rounder yesterday. Yuge improvement! /s
GOOGLE and facebook sends all your comments to the dnc and china daily. also apple phones are worthless. everythimg goes to the dems and china. .
We should be so lucky. They intend to repay it by conquering us entirely.
Fire up the old internment camps! Let the japs run them this time as reparations!
Lol, Yes!
AND NP PEE.biden is sleeping so is harris.
Has to be adjusted for inflation. 1 trillion is a crazy amount of money a century ago.
Interest accrued over that amount of time could account for such a high number. Of course, the CCP will claim it was borrowed by the Nationalist Government and tell us to get it form Taiwan...but then they would have to acknowledge the existence of the Nationalist government...WOW, what a predicament.
That is a hilarious predicament. I hope it's a moot question and we just glass them, tbh. Communists need to be sent straight to hell.
Brother, commies don’t have souls. They just get decommissioned like a park bench
It's a crazy amount now.
Thank the Communist Federal Reserve for that inflation too.
ladies and gentleman...that is adjusted to a payback today. Interest and current dollars.
This has been picking up steam for 6 months. Some speculate it is part of the Trump plan for dealing with Chyna and debt.
He's been taking on debt willy-nilly lately, and I agree with you that I think this is the play.
This is the way
Until you think about the fact that China can use this to prove the legitimacy of their ownership of Taiwan.
What this really is is acknowledging China's legitimate claim to Taiwan in return for their re paying the debts for the Taiwanese government that they claim as theirs.
But that begs the question, can a people get rid of their national debt simply by replacing their government?
No, as the Senator points out, it begs the question of whether a nation assumes the debt of a country they take over.
Trump could propose a bill to buy up all the privately owned debt with US Treasury Bonds. Then the administration could use it as a HUGE bargaining chip.
1.) Recognise Taiwan 2.) Forgive all our current debt with them 3.) etc...
Lots of possibilities.
It's more than we owe them, so even if we could make them a "deal" and cancel out all of the debt they are trying to hold over us it would be a win.
right on. see how smart our president is. the dems are out to destroy this great country.
That’s why it’s so high. UK collected theirs under Thatcher, our POS politicians have been letting them slide.
RIGHT ON. DON'T WAKE UP OUR pos politicians. we need to vote out every pos dem in the senate , and governors.
Well, Obama paid $1.2B in interest to Iran (about 9% annual interest) on a non-interest bearing account, so we should tack on an additional 9% to whatever interest we were actually owed.
obama made enough money off of each of us to paYcash for his 18 million home in CALIFORNIA.
They had gold and borrowed cash against it. They owe us bigtime.
Just cancel our debt by that amount, it doesn't get simpler than that.
Yeah but then we couldn’t pull it out of the bank in all cash and swim in it like Scrooge mcduck
Or turn it into quarters and fill up a lake and swim in it, a la South Park and “Kyle’s Money”
So a 200-350 Mile long Mass Driver that can shoot 2 tons an hour for 230 days of the year investment for space?(Just to mention it does get higher the longer it works since experience and techniques can be developed)
Using these numbers, China owes more than USA owes them. 1.6T to 1.1M respectively, so they'd still owe another 500B after that
drowning in debt and drowning in floods. tough year for china
they've already liquidated their bonds. China is out of assets! The Yuan is worthless!
china and the dems are both trying to destroy this country.
It is more complicated than that because China owes it to US bondholders, not the US government, so the best we could do is cancel China's debt and have the US pay these bondholders instead. Repatriating that much debt would probably destroy the dollar.
I just looked up how much we owe China (guessing the last 20 years) and it's $1.1 Trillion. Guess another decade and we will call it even?
US bonds held by China
I think that’s the plans
Currency manipulator. Make sure it's all in gold.
Even their gold can’t be trusted.
Sure, but we can verify it. It's the best way to take their physical assets and keep them valuable.
Foors Gord
BIDEN CAN'T BE TRUSTED. LIES AND MORE LIES HIM AND OBAMA.
Doesn't really matter. If they have half a trillion, they would mobilize it from the entire country and buy more from others. If they manipulate currency, other countries are stuck with the bill.
It would actually be better for us if they don't have it because they would need to make deals with other countries ane lose money along the way. We can verify if the gold is not real.
just like the obama 8 years of nothing .obama care what a joke. they forgot to pay the doctors.
NO IS THE ANSWER,
I'd agree with you, but their military assets are near-worthless.
Or spaghetti!
Edit. RIP OP 😢
It'll depend on the outcome of the election. If China Joe wins we're going to shrug our shoulders and surrender all of our wealth to them.
"Here, just take our military technology, our corporate IP and all of our jobs. Also, can you help my son out?" -Joe Biden
Literally what happened in the 90's with Bill "Slick Willy" Clinton.
If Bill had an adult son or daughter back then, they would have been filthy rich and sitting on some corporate board.
Too bad Bill is infertile and needed some scumbag to impregnate his wife to pretend like he had a spawn.
I wish I had your optimism
Money first, cheap garbage and weak colds second.
— —
Britain made good on the Hong Kong lease so China can pay us.
That was such a stupid, short-sighted bargain.
We owed a debt to the Shah of Iran. Billions. We paid them in spite of the muzzies overthrowing that government.
By that same logic this senator is correct in affirming this.
We did NOT owe billions to the Shah of Iran. We owed $400 million. And that was BEFORE any payout for the hostages Iran took (which is still in litigation because the World Court are anti-American bastards). That money was, even back with the Shah, in a non-interest bearing account. But your logic is completely sound.
Right I’ve heard about this a bunch and it’s still not clear if it’s individuals that are actually getting repaid.
Bonds must have been hot shit 30 years ago.
The Chinese will likely say that they don't have to because they're not the same government that took the debt. They of course expected the UK to honour the agreement that was signed with the government before communist China.
The UK should've torn up that treaty once the communists took over, no quarter for communists.
That could actually be an extremely important arguement. Im wondering if the UK had debt and trapped them into paying it at some point by honouring the agreement.
Damn... people really want their trillions today. lmao
yah some days I'm all relaxed and shit but then some days I just want my trillions and you can't talk me out of it lol
Our government should then use that money to pay off debt as we sever all market ties with China.
I believe it was very foolish for Richard Nixon to open up trade relations with a hostile power, which is the same as enriching Al Quaeda or even the Nazis during WWII.
If American corporations desire cheap labor, then they should invest in India or Mexico, IMHO.
I can see why Nixon did it, though. China was infinitely weaker compared to today, and turning them against the Soviet Union was one of the keys to breaking the Eastern Bloc. The real problem came when Bush and Clinton tried to bring them into the "global community" and the WTO. After the USSR collapsed, we should have turned the screws on China right away.
China was weaker back then, but still very, very strong. And if they were infinitely weaker, then they have grown infinitely stronger, no thanks to us enriching them in trade.
We allied with China against the Soviet Union? That seems prudent and not unheard of, as we allied ourselves with the Soviets against the Nazis during WWII.
Yet, the first step to make that possible appears to have been taken by Nixon.
Look, I'm not someone who hates on Nixon. In fact, this is my only grievance with him, honestly.
He is a hero to Israelies and saved that sacred and holy nation.
And as the lyrics are sung,
—Lynyrd Skynyrd, Sweet Home Alabama
If you are correct in that we allied ourselves with China in order to help collapse the USSR—in the same principle as our Navy allying herself with the Italian Mafia during WWII—then
logically follows as the alliances purpose has been fulfilled and new principles then govern.
That is an intriguing take on history that I have not heard of before. Fascinating.
And, if you're interested, then these are sources on the alliance between our Navy and the Mafia during WWII:
https://www.worldwars.com/unlikely-allies-cooperation-between-the-american-mafia-the-u-s-military-during-wwii/
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2017/01/13/project-underworld-the-u-s-navys-secret-pact-with-the-mafia/
https://www.history101.com/lucky-luciano-us-government-wwii/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/project-underworld-when-navy-and-mafia-joined-forces-fight-hitlers-saboteurs-157221
As punishment for bringing COVID to the world you can sell all US Treasury debt you hold back to us at an 80% discount. We will borrow money at negative rates from the fed to pay it back. 🤑
As of May 2020, the Asian nation owns $1.08 trillion in US treasury bonds. There's most of it. Recall the bonds. Easy peasy.
Or recognize Taiwan and they can pay it back.
^__^
Let Taiwan offer to pay it, that'll only offer more legitimacy to the real China
libs will vote against this since they are owned by china
and the gop is owned by israel
Wait till we bill them 1 Gorillion for chyna virus!
4-D Chess!- as long as we are playing 'crimes of my forefather's need to be dealt with game' with globalists...
We could just cancel $1.6T of the debt the US has borrowed from them and say, "There, we did it for you." I'd be fine with that. Then refusing to pay the rest of the debt to them as Wu Flu reparations.
I have a strong feeling that is what going to happen. And before the election.
Less than 50 years ago it was illegal to trade with China. Thanks, Nixon.
Here is a good interview I just watched on this with Jonna Bianco, the Director of the United States Bondholders Foundation, interviewed by Joshua Philipp for the Epoch Times.
She talks about why this debt swap should've already occurred under US law, and if not due to influence from Wall Street and DC they'd have already pulled the trigger.
Just to get your blood boiling, the Chinese have never paid a penny to US bondholders, while simultaneously paying interest on their bonds held by other countries. We've, the US taxpayer, been paying China interest the entire time, on-time, every time.
I had no idea we held so much Chinese debt, and I consider myself pretty fiscally literate on such matters.
Goes to show how dangerous a country without a free press really is and how fast it can go sideways.
Just cancel the debt the US owes China and call it even
1.5T divided by 330M Americans equals 4,545.45454545. Coincidence? I think not
1.6T divided by 330M Americans equals 4,848.48484848. Coincidence? I think not
I like my math better
It's seems a lot of people feel that way recently.
Nice McSally ftw. Bout time to see some good legislation from her office.
Senator McSally can ride herd on them from a sky perch.
"ModernKnight 1 point 8 minutes ago +1 / -0 We could just cancel $1.6T of the debt the US has borrowed from them and say, "There, we did it for you." I'd be fine with that. Then refusing to pay the rest of the debt to them as Wu Flu reparations."
I have a strong 💪 Feeling that is what is being set up. And before the election also.
CORONA REPARATIONS
It's insane that people don't realize China owes the US more debt than the US owes China. And that's outside of the intellectual property theft and one sided trade deals. China has literally siphoned tens of trillions of dollars of wealth from America, their whole country is built and modernized on American backs.
Time for China pay ass hoe tax.
Fa ra ra ra, ra ra ra
If you won't pay the money back, then take our communists into your country.
Despite China’s hatred of the US, of all the old world empires during last years of imperial China, America was the one who was most merciful towards them. All the European nations such looted and pillaged the wealth but the US actually just held them in debt.
Debt swap and cancel all debt owned by China plz.
That’s about 1% of what they owe for the damage their COVID virus they engineered did, but hey, it’s a start.
I'll start holding my breath now.
China says they already paid and to check with Joe Biden and Diane Cheinstein.
DEBT SWAP! We pay China millions everyday on the debt but China doesn’t.
How about they repay is for the chinese aids and every future kung flu that comes from the country . Better yet we should just turn that whole dirty ass country into glass
So Japan It?
Yes ... hit them with so many rads they start drawing high school girls getting fucked by octopuses and shit
Unfortunately, woodblock art from long before Hiroshima and Nagasaki shows that it is a longstanding fetish under the Rising Sun. The bombings are probably the closest any nation has come to deliberately nuking furries.
With interest.
Obviously. When it does happen, the headline is "Trump signs racist bill against Chinese people, demands money from them."
China wants to know if they can pay that in Clash of Clans currency