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Sargentpilcher 33 points ago +33 / -0

There's 2 camps in anarchist philosophy, and they HATE each other. The people in the streets are anarcho communists, and we have fundamental disagreements about the definition of anarchy.

Anarcho communists define anarchy as: No hierarchies at all.

Anarcho capitalists define anarchy as: No rulers at all. Hierarchies are fine as long as they're voluntary.

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GoldenPotatoRequiem 25 points ago +25 / -0

Yeah I find that confusing. For my whole life I viewed anarchism as no government, but these "anarchists" want MORE government to force no hierarchies. It's delusional. It's like creating a whole new word, but instead of actually making a new word, forcing a new meaning onto an already existing word, and then pretending that's what it has meant all along.

Hmmm... The democrats haven't done that with any other word right? I'm pretty sure it stared with a g... Guh.. Gend - Forget it. Must have been my imagination.

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Sargentpilcher 18 points ago +18 / -0

I regularly get into arguments with people on twitter who tell me I don't know what anarchy means as the historical association of anarchy is with leftist communists. They're completely delusional because like you said, they need a government in order to enforce their no hierarchy, which will of course, create a hierarchy.

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GoldenPotatoRequiem 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's complete dissonance.

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shadows_of_the_mind 12 points ago +12 / -0

they want government to enforce lack of hierarchy

And that, my friends, is why anarchocommunism is literally a contradiction. You cannot have “anarchy” and total government control of society. That is not anarchy

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ausglitsch 4 points ago +4 / -0

it's almost as if marxism uses semi-organized chaos in order to appear as though they're anarchists. it's really 2 things, though: the average idiot sincerely believes that they're helping to speak truth to power and dismantle what they hold to be tyranny—the loosely defined "useful idiot" group, and the other are the relatively few- which incidentally includes the media, who believe that they stand to benefit from it somehow- who know that, to the untrained eye and with an unexercised critical reasoning faculty, most people will view it more as "dumb, angry kids doing dumb shit" rather than the violent insurrection in which they're cognizantly engaging

they're not anarchists. that's a misnomer. whether they mean to or not, they're fighting for something that couldn't be further from any reasonable definition of anarchism

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Valiazaner 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's not even no hierarchies at this point it is no hierarchies where they are not the top.

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Kolob 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hmmm, I never knew that, sounds more like me.