Disagree. The federal government post civil war was fundamentally different than before the war. It was no longer a union of self governed states that worked out their differences via a weak Federal government, it became a Union of weak client states to a powerful Federal government.
We are not living under the government the founding fathers designed for us by way of the Constitution, that country ended when Lincoln went to war
Don’t get me wrong—I agree with what you’re saying here 100%.
It’s just that Lincoln didn’t set out to destroy the union. And States were already seceding as he made his way to Washington.
In the Lincoln / Douglas debates, he was pretty clear about not wanting to admit another slave state into the union—but to leave the existing ones. It was only later with the emancipation proclamation that really started to push back on that.
But I do 100% agree with what you said in your response. It was “these United States” before the war and it became “the United States” after. And you are very much right about us living under the giant monster government we live under today. It was a different country when Lincoln took office for sure.
Disagree. The federal government post civil war was fundamentally different than before the war. It was no longer a union of self governed states that worked out their differences via a weak Federal government, it became a Union of weak client states to a powerful Federal government.
We are not living under the government the founding fathers designed for us by way of the Constitution, that country ended when Lincoln went to war
Don’t get me wrong—I agree with what you’re saying here 100%.
It’s just that Lincoln didn’t set out to destroy the union. And States were already seceding as he made his way to Washington.
In the Lincoln / Douglas debates, he was pretty clear about not wanting to admit another slave state into the union—but to leave the existing ones. It was only later with the emancipation proclamation that really started to push back on that.
But I do 100% agree with what you said in your response. It was “these United States” before the war and it became “the United States” after. And you are very much right about us living under the giant monster government we live under today. It was a different country when Lincoln took office for sure.