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Trump this morning (media.patriots.win)
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WiseToad 16 points ago +16 / -0

It was Newsweek who ran with the story about her possible being disqualified, not Trump. There is a legitimate debate, both of her parents were not citizens.

Trump also asked the same questions about Ted Cruz.

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Pleepleus 12 points ago +13 / -1

Its the language of 14th amendment "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Her parents were immigrants and if they did not have at least permanent residency then they and their daughter Kamala were not subject to full U.S. jurisdiction.

Anyone know if Kamala has duel citizenship?

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Pleepleus 9 points ago +9 / -0

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

Ya I know its wikipedia. Court case established birthright citizenship.... but the parents in this case were permanent residents fully subject to U.S. jurisdiction. Concept of automatically becoming citizen at birth to foreigners just became policy but was neither addressed by supreme court or passed laws. I dont have the full story but this stuff irks me.

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RexCollumSilvarum 0 points ago +1 / -1

Every legal immigrant, whether permanent or not, is subject to US jurisdiction. Actually every person on US territory is, whether legal or not, with a very small number of exceptions like diplomats who work at the UN (and who know that US law doesn't apply to them so they park their cars wherever they like; remember "scofflaws"?)

Back in the 1800s and before, Western countries would set up trading posts in countries that had brutal regimes where human rights weren't respected, and would arrange for extraterritoriality, which is a situation where the law of person's home country applies. One example is in 1800s Japan, where samurai could basically cut off the head of anyone they felt were disrespecting them. British and other merchants arranged to be subject to their own nations' jurisdiction rather than the host nation.

So even illegal immigrants can't claim that US law doesn't apply to them and run back to their home countries to escape judgment. Not anymore.

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DCdeplorable 2 points ago +3 / -1

Both parents were non citizens staying temporarily but could now get citizenship bc of her.

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alien_owl 1 point ago +2 / -1

It all depends on what the founding fathers meant by “natural born” citizen. They only use that language when talking about persons running to hold the executive office.