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Bruder 22 points ago +23 / -1

Why were the cops arresting her without knowing why? They literally had to call back into the station.

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itisoktowakeupnow [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

Good observation

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Bruder 8 points ago +9 / -1

Thanks, it was incredibly strange.

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readyIgnite 17 points ago +17 / -0

Finished Shadow Gate and have a few thoughts.


Background Viewing

I'd gone full autist during the NSA domestic spying story. Read through Snowden links. The story is difficult for being so complicated it takes too long to explain to the average American. Same challenge telling the Russia gate story. So many names and events and concepts that there's some barrier to entry to fully appreciated the scandal.

The documentary quickly skims through domestic spying twists and turns coming off as recap of prior seasons. Because I'm familiar with that content could follow allow. Friends who were oblivious to the NSA story when it broke lost attention span during this section, they had no clue what was happening with the documentary.

From that observation I'd recommend a dive into recapping the Snowden and NSA domestic spying story before watching this film. The background knowledge is necessary. I don't have a good recommendation right now for that role. As background viewing I'd probably recommend something like this.

  1. NSA domestic spying / Snowden story. Preferably from more than one perspective.

  2. Terms and Conditions May Apply

  3. Hoaxed

  4. Ukraine on Fire or some other documentary that introduces color revolutions, and what happened in Ukraine to tip the country.

Millie tends to talk on topics related to these day in day out. Many of the points made and highlighted are better appreciated for that background viewing.


What is off camera is often the story

Recall arguments that intel agencies feud. There's argument that both NSA domestic spying and Vault 7 hacking tools are examples of tit for tat wrestling for position.

I find the on camera whistleblowers surprising. One would expect anyone in that world is monitored at all times from then on out as price of admission. Expectation is that their interaction with anyone on the infowars team would be picked up quickly and by one means or another handled before a documentary could be produced of the content.

That argument isn't to say presentation does not hold merit. Entertain ideas. Push, probe, and pull on verification.

My point is that as part of that process keep in mind consulting films that aren't on camera. Suppose these firms are rolled up or access cut. What else is out there?


What now?

Ideas following are speculative draft form. Brainstorming for here on out to identify inaccuracies, holes in logic. Projecting forward how to pursue happiness and live life productively without getting crushed by the WMD giants in our midst is a challenge.

We can project from techniques described that big data machine learning attacks rely on massive mountains of data put into the machine learning big black box and what spits out is insights into how to manipulate a demographic. That frame tells more of the story of how Tik Tok and similar data flows into foreign countries may be used.

At the individual level to protect oneself, there does not exist perfect security. The best we can ever do is be a little bit more hardened than the next guy so time spent by bad actors are more productive going after the next guy. In this case the techniques all rely on data collection. Systematically feeding junk data into the system does the trick. Build yourself fake profiles and feed junk data into all social media as a habit. Pick up hobbies you don't particularly care for. React to something dumb. Can mess around with js fiddle and various testing tools to auto-click content and make a mess of the data flowing upstream. Yeah that data stream can be cleaned up but you can make it messy enough that it takes human time to do so. That makes it easier to push-pull other targets.

And scaling up nation wide. To protect a group from this form of mass manipulation, burn it out may be one approach. For example all the fake news is resulting in growing pockets who have walked through the fire of emotion manipulation and sniff out 'bullshit' ever quicker. That's one route. But unlikely to be able to pull all of society along for that ride.

As a national security project could purposefully generate junk data into the upstream collection. You lose the ability to make informed insights about your population. But upside is foreign countries would not be able to stir unrest or A/B test so rapidly with all the junk data flying around.

I think I'd argue to be consistent with Western legal or regulatory framework to look something like the following. The individual has a right to data inherent from God. That's not realistically going to be observed without a fight but worth noting. Protect law abiding citizens by offering automated garbage data pumped into the internet polluting effort to collect insights. Law abiding citizens can choose to turn off noise to select companies engage in services. Those with criminal record lose protections. This leaves problems not thought through such as those with criminal record are precisely a target demographic that create social unrest if manipulated.

We're again in the place where the WMD nuclear genie is out of the bottle. These big data techniques exist. How do we live with that without destroying ourselves in the process?

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PremiumPatriotPepe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good resource.

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FlimboFlongins 6 points ago +6 / -0

Brennan does not have an active Protective Security Detachment. He's literally just a man. Someone might find that useful, in case they were curious.

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SomeGuyOnTheInternet 3 points ago +5 / -2

Is this Millie stuff real or a scam? If her Shadowgate story was legit, wouldn't youtube have taken it down by now?

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readyIgnite 3 points ago +5 / -2

Too soon.

Consider the digital campaign that rolled out in the 2016 election. On reddit you felt as if protesters with megaphones poured into your small hobby clubhouse and shouted everything down in major subs. When an unexpected or new twist occurred you'd spot a window of 24 to 48 hours where normal conversation occurred, before the megaphones picked up a calibrated response again.

When NSA domestic spying Snowden story broke there was a day or two where conversation could take place. Then the attempt to clamp down on the information started trying to remove information.

Other consulting firms operating in this space may be a story. Suppose the tech giants themselves now offer their own competing service and allowing this story move forward knocks out the competition.

We don't really know and with this sort of thing often can't verify so have to sit watch and wait for more detail.

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pierettedelecto 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then why the streisand effect on millie?

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SomeGuyOnTheInternet 3 points ago +3 / -0

It isn't the Streisand effect because no one is trying to block you from seeing it. All the hype possibly could just be really good marketing resulting in the high number of views. I don't know if it is real or not, both are in the realm of possibility.

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Spez_Isacuck -3 points ago +4 / -7

It’s starting to look a lot like astroturfing.

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sunwolf87 3 points ago +3 / -0

THIS is why people think America isn't free...WHERE IS THE DUE PROCESS? WHY WASN'T SHE READ HER RIGHTS? WHY WASN'T SHE SERVED WITH A WARRANT? THIS IS BULLSHIT! THIS IS WHY CERTAIN PEOPLE WANNA BURN IT ALL DOWN, LOOK HOW FUCKING FAR UP THE CORRUPTION GOES!!!!

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rockytrumpoa 2 points ago +2 / -0

A reporter for infowars was arrested, the cops even didn't know why and had to call the station for the reason of the arrest. It's a bogus reason. There's cell phone video footage of the arrest. The reporter, Millie Weaver, was about to release a documentary about stuff which goes on, like Russia gate stuff (not the 5G interdimensional space vampire stuff).

The docmentary is named something like "what they don't want you to see" or similar. The release was rushed, it's out there, about 1h22min. Look for it.

Here's another discussion: https://thedonald.win/p/Guwyfnwg/-important-millie-weaver-wrongfu/c/

Spread the info far and wide to fight against the communists and globohomo centralists!