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ziplockbag 13 points ago +15 / -2

From the equipment manual -

LUCAS Chest Compression System is to be used for performing external cardiac compressions on adult patients who have acute circulatory arrest defined as absence of spontaneous breathing and pulse, and loss of consciousness.

So - Can I assume that he had cardiac arrest at that time?

I don't know what ALS protocol is in MPLS but is it safe to assume that all transport patients with Cardiac Arrest would receive this procedure on the chance that they could recover? would it be prudent to assume this is standard protocol

From the equipment manual -

LUCAS must be used in instances where chest compression is likely to help the patient.

I don't think we can assume much of anything in either case.

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LibertyisYuge 13 points ago +13 / -0

Sounds like a civil discussion among pedes to me.

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TrumpKnowsKungFu 9 points ago +9 / -0

EMT-B here - likely he'd already had a cardiac event, thus the machines' presence. They're not likely going to remove it until he's stable.

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ziplockbag 1 point ago +2 / -1

We're not. The manual affirms your post. I don't know how to say this but if he were stone cold. they wouldn't use it. Only if it were "likely" to help the patient. MPLS may still use it on every transport with cardiac arrest. The attending physician is the only one that can pronounce death I assume.

Either way, I'll bet a dime that the officers walk if they overcharge unless they drag up Stone's jury and judge. LOL.

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bellcurvestrikesback 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree. Also when the cops felt for pulse in the made bodycam footage when chaucin was still on his neck, there was no pulse

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KaliforniaX [S] 0 points ago +4 / -4

Just because the machine is on his chest, doesn’t mean the it’s applying chest compression. Or it’s Pulseless Electrical Activity. But the heart muscle is still electrically active.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK513349/

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