He left in the ambulance by 8:30. Probably got to the hospital within 10 minutes or less. At 9:00 they took blood samples. At 9:30 he was pronounced dead. Why would they take blood samples from a man they thought was dead? Autopsy wasn't until the next day. And why would it take them a full hour to declare him dead? Even taking a half hour to declare him dead seems out of the realm of possibility. A doctor had to order those blood tests, which means a doctor would have declared him dead when the blood tests were ordered. Why did they order blood tests?
I think the logical course of events is this: They had a pulse, they treated him as a potential heart attack. But he was still not responding well to the treatment, so they figured something else must have been going on. Ordered blood work. Blood work can take anywhere from 15 minutes to over an hour in the emergency room. Before they even got the blood results back, he lost a pulse and was declared dead.
The reason why we aren't seeing all of this information, is because they are selectively hiding it behind medical information privacy laws.
It's also important to note that he had more than enough fentanyl in his system for OD. 5g/ml is typically in the lower registers of overdose deaths. He had 11ng/ml in his blood, but he also had 5.6ng/ml of fentanyl metabolites, meaning that's fentanyl his body already processed. Clearly the 5.6ng/ml is what killed him, and the rest was just the remaining fentantyl in his blood stream that wasn't yet processed by his body. On top of that, he had over 86ng/ml of free morphine in his urine, which is again stuff that had already been processed. Floyd was high as a kite for at least the whole day before he was arrested. And that's not even counting all the other stuff he had in his system, like meth and caffeine and weed.
You don’t do compressions on an adult with a pulse. You don’t use an extraglotic airway on someone with a gag reflex unless he has been sedated and paralyzed. If we had an airway put in during an arrest, it means he wasn’t conscious and was in a full arrest. Now, during a full Advanced Cardiac Life Support event, the paramedic along with providing intravenous medications, defibrillation (if indicated by the rhythm on the monitor), providing ventilatory support also has to find out what was the cause of the arrest. There are some things that can’t be found out in the field. Being taken to an ER where lab draws are standing orders during a traumatic event or an arrest event like this is completely normal. And blood tests can come back way faster than 15 mins.
He left in the ambulance by 8:30. Probably got to the hospital within 10 minutes or less. At 9:00 they took blood samples. At 9:30 he was pronounced dead. Why would they take blood samples from a man they thought was dead? Autopsy wasn't until the next day. And why would it take them a full hour to declare him dead? Even taking a half hour to declare him dead seems out of the realm of possibility. A doctor had to order those blood tests, which means a doctor would have declared him dead when the blood tests were ordered. Why did they order blood tests?
I think the logical course of events is this: They had a pulse, they treated him as a potential heart attack. But he was still not responding well to the treatment, so they figured something else must have been going on. Ordered blood work. Blood work can take anywhere from 15 minutes to over an hour in the emergency room. Before they even got the blood results back, he lost a pulse and was declared dead.
The reason why we aren't seeing all of this information, is because they are selectively hiding it behind medical information privacy laws.
It's also important to note that he had more than enough fentanyl in his system for OD. 5g/ml is typically in the lower registers of overdose deaths. He had 11ng/ml in his blood, but he also had 5.6ng/ml of fentanyl metabolites, meaning that's fentanyl his body already processed. Clearly the 5.6ng/ml is what killed him, and the rest was just the remaining fentantyl in his blood stream that wasn't yet processed by his body. On top of that, he had over 86ng/ml of free morphine in his urine, which is again stuff that had already been processed. Floyd was high as a kite for at least the whole day before he was arrested. And that's not even counting all the other stuff he had in his system, like meth and caffeine and weed.
You don’t do compressions on an adult with a pulse. You don’t use an extraglotic airway on someone with a gag reflex unless he has been sedated and paralyzed. If we had an airway put in during an arrest, it means he wasn’t conscious and was in a full arrest. Now, during a full Advanced Cardiac Life Support event, the paramedic along with providing intravenous medications, defibrillation (if indicated by the rhythm on the monitor), providing ventilatory support also has to find out what was the cause of the arrest. There are some things that can’t be found out in the field. Being taken to an ER where lab draws are standing orders during a traumatic event or an arrest event like this is completely normal. And blood tests can come back way faster than 15 mins.
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Edit: Trying not to church things up is all.