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turdinthepunch 15 points ago +15 / -0

no fucking way am I beta testing Bill Gates's vaccine... no fucking way.

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Batmemejr3 10 points ago +10 / -0

Already beta-tested on African children. You know, the ones that already are immune thanks to HCQ? That's why it will be heralded as a rousing success. Vaccine = sugar water and tracking chip.

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tonightm89 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, sadly when it is rolled out children and the already ill will get it first. Then all the court battles of some parents refusing to let their kids take it. Then the court battles after that.

The death panels of doctors fighting patients and their families. Especially patients that can't speak for themselves.

A vaccine that will finally be given to healthy people is years away.

Then even if it kills one person you are going to have lawsuits up the ass for years.

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MikeInTallinn 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah, don't shoot me down here, but I spoke with a family member who is A. Not American, B. Indifferent to the politics of the USA C. Worked at the top levels of medicine In his home country (and previously very high up in the military world for medicine) D. Has enough letters after his name to fill 3 lines of his email signature.

He isn't convinced about the effectiveness of HCQ in elderly patients and infact, he believes it has long been the understanding that HCQ is dangerous to prescribe to people 65+. Considering this is where the at risk groups start he holds the view that HCQ is not the best solution for the prevention or treatment of Covid-19. He agreed that Zinc definitely plays a role in combating Covid-19 and said that the Dr who cured stomach ulcers in Australia is the one to watch for a treatment for Covid-19, which involves a 3 part solution, one of which is Zinc based.

Food for thought / something to watch.

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Diotima 4 points ago +6 / -2

He isn't convinced about the effectiveness of HCQ in elderly patients

Tell him to quit watching CNN then

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MikeInTallinn 9 points ago +9 / -0

He doesn't watch CNN, He doesn't even live in America or watch much TV at all.

Frankly, I don't care if you want to consider this information or not. I just thought I'd share it with the good people of the Donald, that outside of America and outside the sphere of influence of American media and politics, there are credible doctors without political motivation that are not complete supporters of HCQ citing the risks associated with giving it to elderly patients, which were known long before Covid-19.

You don't have to trust me, I'm just a stranger on the internet, but I trust this guy and his advice. Worth noting this isn't a binary argument I'm presenting, it's not HCQ vs Gates Vaccine, it's just simply saying HCQ might not be the best option when it comes to treating the elderly and that the work of an Australian doctor, once completed, might be the best all round solution.

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Jakethejackpot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Humour me. If I'm 70 and get the Rona and it's decided that hcq and zinc isn't going to be effective, why not? What are my options?

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southerndelight81 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm thinking they are trying to discredit it through with the use of a Zpac. Since back around 2010 Zpac was known to exacerbate congestive heart failure. But I'm not a Doctor.

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tonightm89 3 points ago +3 / -0

This issue isn't really what you family member is talking about. This issue is that if it is indeed dangerous why are people in government positions getting it why is everyone refused it? I know some doctors still give it out but it's not a widely issued drug that is known to work.

Your family member may be right. But as it stands its not a recommended treatment even for younger people that have been moved to an ICU.

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Jleinf 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your friend is uninformed. HCQ is safe in the population most at risk. I have hundreds of patients on it that I’ve followed for years and no one gets cardiotoxic at prescribed doses

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Sexysnakemonster 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm not even against the vaccine because of "sterilisation" or microchipping, or whatever. I'm against it because there's is so much potential money behind the first one to make a vaccine, and that shit is going to get rushed out and have so many side effects hidden so that it will be approved.

Guarantee that if a vaccine does come out, the president of whatever company that makes it is going to quietly retire so he can avoid being blamed when the eventual lawsuits come.

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BrokenMatrix 3 points ago +3 / -0

Where did this microchip stuff come from anyway? What are these hypothetical microchips going to supposedly do if they are just sitting in your general bloodstream?

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Sexysnakemonster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well most vaccines are intra muscular not intravenous, so if there was a microchip, it'd be sitting in your muscle? Idk I've just hear that "theory" a lot.

I just don't believe there's any malicious intent other than make lots of money before someone else does.

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2016TrumpMAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not taking it because I learned a long time ago, while working in IT, NEVER to use version X.0 of anything produced by Microsoft. Gates has a long history of using his paying customers as beta testers.

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sumgen7 1 point ago +1 / -0

The elites will never take it - they have big stashes of HCQ+AZI+Zinc

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Food4thought 1 point ago +1 / -0

You would think it was Thalidomide.

https://thalidomide.ca/en/what-is-thalidomide/