They have it all documented out. They mail you a verification code. You log in to a pc, verify your identity, and cast your vote. I’m not sure of the details but have a look. They have it tamperproof. If this works, fire the government and let us vote on what we want for our country ourselves. Fire congress.
At first glance, this appears to be as secure as voter ID. I'm sure there are scattered instances of people voting with forged IDs. One advantage of this system is that each hash only gets one vote, which isn't necessarily true with voter ID and is certainly not true with states that don't require voter ID.
On the other hand, how hard would it be to create false hashes? Would this be as secure as bitcoin which has virtually no chance of counterfeit BTC being produced? What's the underlying structure of the proposed system? Who administers it?
It's certainly something to be explored, but I agree that caution is required.
Ok, someone with more computer nerd points than me, is this good?
"A registered voter receives a computer readable code in the mail and confirms identity and confirms correct ballot information in an election. The system separates voter identification and votes to ensure vote anonymity, and stores votes on a distributed ledger in a blockchain."
Every time. Extra votes in an election a few years ago? Ok, thanks for letting us know so we can fix it for next time. Extra votes in an election a few years ago? Ok, thanks for letting us know again. We're working hard to make sure it won't happen again.
It technically could work - but we’ll run similar problems and some new problems. The Distributed ledger is corruptable if you have enough bad actors. There are still similar problems... The ineligible voter status being one. And having to update those records accordingly. And making sure that people aren’t spoofing bad-actor nodes which is a problemset unto itself. At the end of the day, you have logical paradigms that need to exist for voting. Some people don’t “believe in“ those logical paradigms.
You need people with exceptional ethics that are above “above board” and fundamentally understand the value and sanctity of a vote. You also must have sufficient data processing systems, custodianship protocols, and datalogical standards for maintaining a third party secure system.
All of the human elements remain the same, but now you’re able to better track and verify.
They’ll think of a way to hack blockchain, if they haven’t already. Is it possible to create a face blockchain that isn’t actually distributed, for instance?
Blockchain operates securely with money because the public doesn't know who is sending it and no one cares. Blockchain does not operate securely with voting because we have to know the identity of every single person who is voting and who is doing the searching matters. Can they even conduct a recount through blockchain voting? They'd almost surely have to redo the entire election. That does not even include dangers like post-processing tampering and intentionally false statements on the form. whether someone has committed perjury on a form still has to be checked manually no matter how sophisticated the system.
does nothing to protect the secret ballot. if you've got 2 illegal immigrants knocking on your door to "help" you vote online, it doesn't matter how secure that online system is.
the secret ballot is most important part of the voting system, without it, everyone is susceptible to threats and reprisals.
Nope, still won’t do it. In person, or not at all
It will work. Blockchain stores the vote information in multiple locations that cant be tampered with from a single location.
How do you prevent fake accounts casting fake votes? Who controls the creation of accounts?
They have it all documented out. They mail you a verification code. You log in to a pc, verify your identity, and cast your vote. I’m not sure of the details but have a look. They have it tamperproof. If this works, fire the government and let us vote on what we want for our country ourselves. Fire congress.
A complete democracy would be a disaster
It mentions an approval process. Im guessing social, signature, driver id, address? Trump lent them 10 billion for this very one thing it seems.
Thanks. I hadn't heard about any of this until today.
It doesn't guarantee the person voting has the right to vote. Garbage In Garbage Out.
At first glance, this appears to be as secure as voter ID. I'm sure there are scattered instances of people voting with forged IDs. One advantage of this system is that each hash only gets one vote, which isn't necessarily true with voter ID and is certainly not true with states that don't require voter ID.
On the other hand, how hard would it be to create false hashes? Would this be as secure as bitcoin which has virtually no chance of counterfeit BTC being produced? What's the underlying structure of the proposed system? Who administers it?
It's certainly something to be explored, but I agree that caution is required.
Ok, someone with more computer nerd points than me, is this good?
Every time. Extra votes in an election a few years ago? Ok, thanks for letting us know so we can fix it for next time. Extra votes in an election a few years ago? Ok, thanks for letting us know again. We're working hard to make sure it won't happen again.
It technically could work - but we’ll run similar problems and some new problems. The Distributed ledger is corruptable if you have enough bad actors. There are still similar problems... The ineligible voter status being one. And having to update those records accordingly. And making sure that people aren’t spoofing bad-actor nodes which is a problemset unto itself. At the end of the day, you have logical paradigms that need to exist for voting. Some people don’t “believe in“ those logical paradigms.
You need people with exceptional ethics that are above “above board” and fundamentally understand the value and sanctity of a vote. You also must have sufficient data processing systems, custodianship protocols, and datalogical standards for maintaining a third party secure system.
All of the human elements remain the same, but now you’re able to better track and verify.
emphasis on Registered Voter. They can't determine if the person is alive, dead, moved on or illegal.
"Confirms identity"
They key question being -- does this include confirming eligibility to vote?
They’ll think of a way to hack blockchain, if they haven’t already. Is it possible to create a face blockchain that isn’t actually distributed, for instance?
Blockchain operates securely with money because the public doesn't know who is sending it and no one cares. Blockchain does not operate securely with voting because we have to know the identity of every single person who is voting and who is doing the searching matters. Can they even conduct a recount through blockchain voting? They'd almost surely have to redo the entire election. That does not even include dangers like post-processing tampering and intentionally false statements on the form. whether someone has committed perjury on a form still has to be checked manually no matter how sophisticated the system.
That is factually incorrect.
If you register a specific person to a specific BlockCode. You can track 1 transaction. (Vote)
However that will only work once.
Once you get the illegals and other non eligible masses in, you won’t be able to remove them.
Just like any bureaucracy, it will take a lawsuit to correct or make changes to erroneous data
does nothing to protect the secret ballot. if you've got 2 illegal immigrants knocking on your door to "help" you vote online, it doesn't matter how secure that online system is.
the secret ballot is most important part of the voting system, without it, everyone is susceptible to threats and reprisals.