The Clintons through their Clinton Global Initiative have run a pay for play deal for years. High-price speaking fees for Slick Willy translate to uranium deals and pretty much a hands-off approach on Russia in general.
The Russia Reset Button thing was a complete joke because the Russians know that the Clinton's always talk out of both sides of their mouths which means that their false olive branch to Russia did not mesh well with Hillary's support for Syrian rebels starting back in 2011. (As well as the Arab spring in general)
Russia moved on Crimea, because Russia needs a buffer zone. Peter Zeihan covers it well. https://youtu.be/MIdUSqsz0Io
This is probably the best we could actually get. As corrupt and criminal Obama was, I really don’t see a timeline where he is arrested.
But it would be epic. Just list each of his crimes on TV one by one, slowly, and include evidence for each. And then repeat “For the crime of XYZ, I hear by pardon Obama”
Much love fellow pede. Good times are coming. Especially if you took a second to read Robert Trump’s twitter feed before his untimely passing...
-Where We Go One, We Go All!
They won’t arrest a former president. That will set a not good precedent that will result in one side (we all know who) charging and attempting to jail the presidents from the other side every four years.
There is no way they can avoid it really. Trump offered an olive branch at the start and the spit on it. The Country will not survive if we let them slide.
If Donald "Literally Hitler" Trump arrests the hallowed king of black people, what happens will make the Floyd riots look civil by comparison. He should still do it, though!
I would fucking love him to pardon Obama. It would be the biggest fuck you to him because we all know they ain't ever going after Obama so giving him a pardon now would make it look like he was forgiven for all his crimes by Trump
Dude look what the left is doing to our country right now with their excuse being some low life junkie criminal being killed while resisting arrest.
Imagine the fake news spin if they actually go after Obama?There's too many idiot retards in our country that would eat up the fake news going crazy for Obama being punished for his crimes.
As much as I'd like to see it, it's not going to fucking happen. Honestly, that commie muslim bastard isn't worth a civil war, which is what it would result in.
As much as I'd like to see it, it's not going to fucking happen. Honestly, that commie muslim bastard isn't worth a civil war, which is what it would result in.
It sure is, if the alternative is to continue to live under a globalist tyranny.
You're honestly saying we should be happy to live passively under the rule of an elite who are not subject to laws? One who will use the power of the state to crush the people's right to democracy and self-determination?
You realize that they are not going to stop there, right? They won't stop until they are stopped. If you lie down and cower to them, you're condemning your children to live as slaves or fight to re-take their birthright gift that our forefathers paid for in blood and handed down to us, and we decided to give away to our enemies in return for nothing.
You're honestly saying we should be happy to live passively under the rule of an elite who are not subject to laws? One who will use the power of the state to crush the people's right to democracy and self-determination?
As long as we have Trump in power, there is a chance we can get out of this thing without a large number of us and our children giving up our lives. If they JFK Trump, or steal the next election and actually cheat Biden/Harris into office - those would be triggers.
But a muslim commie who we somehow survived 8 years of going to prison? Obama is a figurehead and mouthpiece, yea he's a piece of shit but he's not the root of the problem. Obama's entire admin was hand picked for him, he was placed in the presidency. I hate the guy as well but the pleasure of seeing him tried and punished for treason isn't worth even one American childs life.
On a more serious note, if he pardoned some of the low-level marijuana offenders that Harris locked away it could be a huge slap in the face to their shitty campaign
I’m not sure if weed charges count as state offenses. You could argue that all weed laws exist because of the federal government’s regulation of it.
So if Trump says “Weed is no longer a federal offense, anyone charged with weed is hereby pardoned.” That may hold water.
Idk how I feel about weed being decriminalized. I’m leaning in the direction of treating it like booze. Tax it, can’t do it in public, can’t operate a vehicle while on it, etc.
For those of us who misunderstand, can you please cite the passage of law which states he cannot do this? I thought the president could pardon anyone for any reason.
See Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution and interpretation thereof. "Crimes against the United States" appears to be the magic language putting only federal charges/crimes in that bucket.
That scene was always so awkward to me. But in all seriousness, it's a state vs feds issue. While it would be cool to give Trump that authority, it's for the best that that much power not be vested in just one office. Imagine the corrupt bullshit that could ensue.
This, and have Kanye and A$AP Rocky perform at the RNC, if for no other reason than to leave all the boomercon National Review types completely apoplectic.
Don't fool yourself that there are two sides as there isnt. Trump is the outsider here to wreck their fucking falsehood of two sides why everyone hates him.
Not wallowing in shit, I tell every person I know to get their ass out to vote even friends in shithole deep blue states. Balls to the wall this election.
Because he is a whistleblower. He had no recourse in the Obama administration through proper channels. He would have been silenced or killed. The NSA was/is spying on American citizens.
I think his options were: 1) say nothing and let the spying/trampling of rights continue 2) say something through official channels and be ignored (which he did) 3) flee the country, pass along info to reporters, and kill himself 4) flee the country, say something, and hide out in another country (eventually becoming their pawn to survive)
All along the way, the Obama administration had options too. 1) not be corrupt 2) have legitimate protections for whistleblowers 3) immediately pardon and bring him home. They willfully chose to ignore these options and let the situation play out. Because in the end, the government cared more about spying on their own citizens than protecting US assets or Snowden.
Well the whole reason we have intelligence assets and whatnot is supposedly to protect our freedoms. So if those are being infringed in secret by the government, then I'd say the death of government assets is a necessary trade.
I'm sorry for any US agents that were harmed; but Snowden is an absolute hero in my book.
Looking around I can't find information that says he disclosed anything to China or Russia. The best I can find is theories that whatever reporters had might of leaked. Supposedly when he fled he no longer had access to the information.
Other articles I found mention lots of US assets killed there but because of other leaks, moles, and them meeting at places that were being monitored in China?
Snowden showed us how the current US Govt is trampling our 4th amendment rights, giving us at least a chance to try to make some reforms. The best thing Hillary ever did was to not have an abortion so we could have lots of Chelsea Clinton/Webb Hubbel memes.
Trump's releasing an Afghan soldier who killed three Australians in cold blood, Heck Matoola or whoever you spell it (unless I've been lied to), he can release an Australian who has actually been a benefit to the world.
I would be surprised if it's Assange. They probably want him to enter evidence in court and then have him found not guilty. Flynn is probably going to get the case dismissed. Snowden would probably have the biggest impact right now.
Attempting to stay true to his credo that he/Wikileaks will never name their sources, I assume. But they were basically torturing him at one point after his arrest and Seth Rich is dead so I’m not really sure what he’s hanging onto at this point, unfortunately.
Assange was the main guy behind wikileaks. He leaked something that really pissed off the deep state so they framed him for a rape accusation in Sweden or something (it was a northern European country). He fled to London and the Ecuadorian embassy gave him amnesty but he had to stay in the embassy. Couldn’t even risk being near a window. Then the gov changed and he got kicked out of the embassy, ended in solitary confinement in a brit prison. His health ain’t good at this point.
The rape charge in Sweden was eventually dropped, but the US charged him with some shit. Conspiracy to access classified documents or some such. For murky reasons he's still being held in UK rather than extradited.
But in the context of the year 2020, it's arguable he's as important right now as Susan Anthony, although historically Susan Anthony was much more important.
Could you imagine if he preemptively pardoned Obama before all of the findings in regard to Obamagate were spilled to the public? Heads would literally explode
It would be such a brilliant move actually. Trump has been sounding the alarm on Obama for years and the MSM ignores it. If he pardons him, then they HAVE to cover the crimes he may have committed in order to report on the pardon of a past president.
Obama will forever be untouchable. Sad truth but a truth nonetheless. We can prove he committed Water Gate x 1000 but there’s an army of fall guys ahead of him.
I would love to be proven wrong though, if Obama gets put in handcuffs I wouldn’t know how to contain my excitement. Can you imagine?
Bush will forever be untouchable. Sad truth but a truth nonetheless. We can prove he committed warcrimes but there’s an army of fall guys ahead of him.
I would love to be proven wrong though, if Bush gets put in handcuffs I wouldn’t know how to contain my excitement. Can you imagine?
Media: "Racist orange man accuses literal black savior of fictitious, delusional list of crimes. Believes all black men are criminals. #BLM #Commies4Life"
Actually it would be the worst move in the history of mankind and Trump would lose reelection. I sure as hell wouldn't vote for him again if he refused to drain the Swamp. Obama has to be in jail at the end of this.
Okay, bear with me here, I'm heading into the weeds here...
The US lodged a new "11th hour" request for extradition, last week, at the last minute. The UK courts and the EU press are NOT happy about it.
Trump is the kind of 5d chess player, that they know if Assange stays in the EU/UK, he's fucked. So extradite him here - and then pardon him. Then he's out of reach of the EU, and they can give him immunity from extradition.
Interesting is the US Attorney who filed the new complaint is a lawyer who was under heavy fire in 2008 for jailing muslim shithead terrorists. So def not a liberal. And, he operates out of Virginia.
The US lodged a new "11th hour" request for extradition, last week, at the last minute.
Because Sundance, from conservative tree house, is basically blackmailing them into telling the truth. He's briefed them on his evidence and knows things he isn't supposed to. I think the rushed cliensmith announcement was to buy time, and he says tomorrow will be "epic".
Not to get too hyped but it totally could be Julian.
I get that we’re all impatient for it to happen, and I love Conservative Treehouse, but I don’t like Sundance messing with GEOTUS’ timetables. If this was an October surprise and Sundance is making us blow our load in August, that is NOT cool man. I just hope it doesn’t cost us the election
Unfortunately if Trump pardons Assange then Sweden will probably renew their charges and extradition request.
As long as Assange is held outside the U.S. then he can't help Trump.
What o don't get is why Assange didn't just agree to extradition. Trump couldn't in any way indicate a willingness to pardon -- they dems would impeach again, they Swedes would renew their charges...
But this close to the election Assange can't help much anyways, so just pardon him.
Kromberg's name is there, but just far down the list. He seems trapped in swamp soup there. Terwilliger is swamp, nominated by Tim Kaine.
John C. Demers, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, G. Zachary Terwilliger, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, and James A. Dawson, Special Agent in Charge, Criminal Division, FBI Washington Field Office, made the announcement. First Assistant U.S. Attorney Tracy Doherty-McCormick, Assistant U.S. Attorneys Kellen S. Dwyer, Thomas W. Traxler, Alexander P. Berrang, and Gordon D. Kromberg, and Trial Attorneys Adam L. Small and Nicholas O. Hunter of the Justice Department’s National Security Division are prosecuting the case.
Shkreli back in the day was the straw that broke the camels back for my trust in the media. I use his story as a way to show regular/inattentive folk how the media can make a good guy into public enemy number 1.
Loads of regular people can either vaguely remember him or default to “yeah he’s that douchebag evil pharma guy”
Bring him into the spotlight again and you have some nice new vehicles for the red pill
It has to be Assange. No one is more astute than PDJT. Who would have the most traction for him? Assange could put the final nail in the coffin of Muh Russia hacked the Dementia National Committee, and shed some light onto the fate of Seth Rich, may he Rest in Peace.
I disagree.. pardoning Flynn would rile up the Dems.. but in the middle of their convention they would be hard-pressed to really go off about it at risk of ruining their messaging.
Plus.. having Flynn open to speak at the RNC convention would be unbelievable. The media would be forced to air his speech and i imagine it would be the most devastating for them if he talked about how his family was threatened
Manafort would be political suicide. They distanced themselves from him early on for a reason.
The Russia charges were certainly shit and I dont believe he should rot in jail, but he'd be an after-reelection choice. He's not a good guy. Shouldn't be in jail, but not necessarily deserving of a pardon just yet.
wonder if its that c murder rapper guy? ..this is genius by trump though..commie convention is this week and hes doing things to stay in the headlines during it
How wonderful to know that Cosby is demanding to remain locked up as if to prove his innocence when pretty much everyone assumes he is guilty and rightfully imprisoned.
People on this board delude themselves that Snowden will ever pardoned or forgiven. He never will be any US administration, since he engaged in legit treason that resulted in CIA assets being murdered by the Chinese.
The intelligence community has a long memory. Snowden is personne non grata forever.
Because Snowden doesn't have your back either. He's a traitor, whose treason only coincidentally coincided during Obama's term. If he meant well, he was incompetent. Otherwise, he was malicious. He got better and braver people killed.
Supporting him, is no different from being an antifag. But it's worse, because you're writing fan fiction in your head to try and paint him as a hero, when he wasn't.
My respect for our intelligence agencies ran out the day they tried to railroad Trump and his associates while allowing Hillary and Obama to walk free. When they demonstrate there are still patriots within their ranks, I may be swayed to care about Snowden's pardon.
Regardless. Snowden holds no more claim to sympathy than Bergdahl. Both lied. Both got better people killed. But Snowden was flipped by two enemy services, whereas Bergdahl only betrayed us to the Taliban.
It's sad that the bad actors of those who wormed their way to the top of the FBI food chain during the 8 years of the Obama presidency, have lead pedes to build a fantasy narrative that incorporates Snowden as a hero.
The US Intelligence agencies need a house cleaning. But they're still light years better than the Chinese or Russians.
Snowden isn't a hero. A hero in his situation would have fallen on the sword. Instead, he got some people killed trying to save his own ass. If you want to hold that against him, fair enough. I won't defend it.
But my disgust with our media, educational institutions, and government is much greater than what I have for Snowden. Snowden is one man and we're surrounded by enemies. I consider a pardon a fair exchange if it causes the deep state even the least bit of inconvenience.
I would like to think any patriots within the FBI, CIA, ect. are on board and would understand that. What is honor worth in a field that has already been sullied beyond recognition? Brennan, Comey, Strzok, Page, etc. If I were an agent, I'd feel much more dishonor serving along side them than if Snowden was pardoned.
You're not wrong. But as I said elsewhere, it's important to realize that the 'Snowden is a hero virus' began in the anti-American European media.
Antifa serves as a major conduit for leftist eurotrash media, which is how it filtered over here.
Those on the alt right only began to try and re-imagine Snowden as a hero (someone Trump said should be 'executed') because of like you said, all the FBI corruption.
But Snowden remains an antifa icon, and those who celebrate him are America's enemies.
That's why his fanboying needs to be squashed when it pops up here. We shouldn't cross pollinate with Antifa memes.
But that's not to say his treason/idiocy didn't expose other stuff going on. He just exposed it in the way that would hurt us most and help Russia/China the most.
Ironically, Kaczynski's rants on the dangers of artificial intelligence are actually becoming valid. Google, Amazon, and Facebook are using AI to shape behavior, drive spending, and to suppress dissenting opinions.
It was nutty in the 90s but that guy was in academia and he saw this train long before it rolled up on us. It's too bad that he became a mostly unsuccessful bomber and not a vocal and well-known activist instead.
Nothing ironic about it. Dr Ted is ahead of his time. He should be pardoned and released into society without any monitoring because of covid concerns.
Assange? Snowden? Flynn?
EDIT: IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE HEELS UP HARRIS KEPT IN JAIL ON FALSE DNA!
Obama
Specify the crimes she's not pardoned for
Being an ugly dumb bitch
Ayooo
Having an undeserved sense of accomplishment and contempt for our nation.
Pedophilia
He's pardoning Stacey Abrams for cutting in line at the Golden Corral buffet.
Some crimes are unpardonable
"DEE-UD DEY JUZ BRINGUMS OWT DUH FREE-USH MEATLOAFUMS?"
~Stacey Abrams
Cakes and pies!
Cakes 👏 and 👏 pies 👏 !!!
The DNC is one giant mistake.
Can’t leave out John and Tony Podesta if you pardon the side of beef.
You mean Chester Bennington's father
Yeah Bathhouse Barry and Hillary's previous Russian reset button stupidity led to the invasion of Crimea.
Can you elaborate on how the reset led to Crimea? I haven’t heard or thought about this angle at all but You got me interested.
The Clintons through their Clinton Global Initiative have run a pay for play deal for years. High-price speaking fees for Slick Willy translate to uranium deals and pretty much a hands-off approach on Russia in general.
The Russia Reset Button thing was a complete joke because the Russians know that the Clinton's always talk out of both sides of their mouths which means that their false olive branch to Russia did not mesh well with Hillary's support for Syrian rebels starting back in 2011. (As well as the Arab spring in general)
Russia moved on Crimea, because Russia needs a buffer zone. Peter Zeihan covers it well. https://youtu.be/MIdUSqsz0Io
You don't need to be pardoned if you're never tried.
This is probably the best we could actually get. As corrupt and criminal Obama was, I really don’t see a timeline where he is arrested.
But it would be epic. Just list each of his crimes on TV one by one, slowly, and include evidence for each. And then repeat “For the crime of XYZ, I hear by pardon Obama”
Not only is Obama getting arrested, he will be tried for Sedition and Treason. January will be legendary.
Dude no way...I just typed that Trump will get more than even with Fauxbama, it will be legendary
Then I saw yours
Up. Voted.
Much love fellow pede. Good times are coming. Especially if you took a second to read Robert Trump’s twitter feed before his untimely passing... -Where We Go One, We Go All!
I saw that, but I wasn’t sure if it was his legit twitter or just an imposter.
Definitely suspicious timing.
I never heard of him until he died
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They won’t arrest a former president. That will set a not good precedent that will result in one side (we all know who) charging and attempting to jail the presidents from the other side every four years.
There is no way they can avoid it really. Trump offered an olive branch at the start and the spit on it. The Country will not survive if we let them slide.
Trump always gets even
Fauxbama fucked him hard
He will get even--and then some
It's going to be legendary
I love your optimism, I need some of that!
If Donald "Literally Hitler" Trump arrests the hallowed king of black people, what happens will make the Floyd riots look civil by comparison. He should still do it, though!
Joe Biden?
And this is why we should have shot out the tires before the car got rolling.
"My fellow Americans, it is an honor to be the first black pres-"
"MOTHER WAS WHITE! DIBS!"
"... uh, uh, uh, uh, now look here, uh... goddamnit. Alright, fine, look, can I at least be the first half-black president?"
"We'll compromise. You can be the first half-white president."
Republicans are controlled vy the media. The had McCain and Romney to fight Barry...
Good, time to stock up on ammunition, trees and ropes! More terrorists on the streets, more shooting practice
"If he accepts it"
Or Hillary for her Emails since she just got away with it again.
Conservatives seek justice cue Yakkity Sax, the Democrat theme.
Can't get that song outta my head now.
How can the 1965 immigration act be reversed?
Could Obama refuse the pardon? This would be hilarious.
that would be epic
Lol or pardon Joe because "he probably didnt know what he was doing anyway"
I would fucking love him to pardon Obama. It would be the biggest fuck you to him because we all know they ain't ever going after Obama so giving him a pardon now would make it look like he was forgiven for all his crimes by Trump
Dude look what the left is doing to our country right now with their excuse being some low life junkie criminal being killed while resisting arrest.
Imagine the fake news spin if they actually go after Obama?There's too many idiot retards in our country that would eat up the fake news going crazy for Obama being punished for his crimes.
As much as I'd like to see it, it's not going to fucking happen. Honestly, that commie muslim bastard isn't worth a civil war, which is what it would result in.
Hide in your mom's basement, coward. Justice must be served. If the legions of soy want to attack, I have enough lead for them all.
It sure is, if the alternative is to continue to live under a globalist tyranny.
You're honestly saying we should be happy to live passively under the rule of an elite who are not subject to laws? One who will use the power of the state to crush the people's right to democracy and self-determination?
You realize that they are not going to stop there, right? They won't stop until they are stopped. If you lie down and cower to them, you're condemning your children to live as slaves or fight to re-take their birthright gift that our forefathers paid for in blood and handed down to us, and we decided to give away to our enemies in return for nothing.
Nope. I said nothing of the sort.
Oh it sounded for a minute like you're a cowardly cuck who didn't want to bring tyrants to justice but if you didn't say that then my mistake.
"isn't worth a civil war"
Then tell us what IS worth it.
As long as we have Trump in power, there is a chance we can get out of this thing without a large number of us and our children giving up our lives. If they JFK Trump, or steal the next election and actually cheat Biden/Harris into office - those would be triggers.
But a muslim commie who we somehow survived 8 years of going to prison? Obama is a figurehead and mouthpiece, yea he's a piece of shit but he's not the root of the problem. Obama's entire admin was hand picked for him, he was placed in the presidency. I hate the guy as well but the pleasure of seeing him tried and punished for treason isn't worth even one American childs life.
I’d prefer civil war and a republic I believe in. sometimes the tree of liberty has to be watered
Kek
I think this could be it.
SOMEONE GET THIS TO TRUMP ASAP
Were these federal or state charges? If federal he can do it...state charges are in the respective governor's court.
I’m not sure if weed charges count as state offenses. You could argue that all weed laws exist because of the federal government’s regulation of it.
So if Trump says “Weed is no longer a federal offense, anyone charged with weed is hereby pardoned.” That may hold water.
Idk how I feel about weed being decriminalized. I’m leaning in the direction of treating it like booze. Tax it, can’t do it in public, can’t operate a vehicle while on it, etc.
Please stop, I can only get so erect.
It may also catapult him to a third term
Jk but the 2020 election would be over within seconds of that pardon if it were a thing.
Seconds
Crossing fingers he read my post here:
https://thedonald.win/p/GcCKpyls/x/c/15IETIOCaD
Decriminalization is not necessarily strictly legalizing it, but it would mean you wouldn't get fined or thrown in prison for using.
But any drug legalization needs to have those regulations, yes.
For those of us who misunderstand, can you please cite the passage of law which states he cannot do this? I thought the president could pardon anyone for any reason.
See Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution and interpretation thereof. "Crimes against the United States" appears to be the magic language putting only federal charges/crimes in that bucket.
Surely something can be done. Forrest Gump's mom fucks the superintendent
That scene was always so awkward to me. But in all seriousness, it's a state vs feds issue. While it would be cool to give Trump that authority, it's for the best that that much power not be vested in just one office. Imagine the corrupt bullshit that could ensue.
For real, that would be super fucking spicy.
https://i.imgur.com/kcX5xIf.jpg
Sadly the lefty media news wouldn’t report
We need something like gilding here that represents "for the love of God someone get this to DJT"
Source?
This, and have Kanye and A$AP Rocky perform at the RNC, if for no other reason than to leave all the boomercon National Review types completely apoplectic.
Lmao
No ASAP Rocky, but yeah get Kanye doing his Christian stuff!
In my dreams! Assange has so much dirt on the dems...
Dems = Republicans = UniParty
Don't fool yourself that there are two sides as there isnt. Trump is the outsider here to wreck their fucking falsehood of two sides why everyone hates him.
When I think Assange, I'm thinking justice for Seth Rich...
Uniparty talk discourages and demotivates voting for House and Senate Republicans
Want Trump to stay in office? Then you want Republicans to score MASSIVE WINS in house and senate.
Wallow in uniparty after we save the Republic, please
Not wallowing in shit, I tell every person I know to get their ass out to vote even friends in shithole deep blue states. Balls to the wall this election.
Great! Are you telling them to vote Republican, or "uniparty"?
In case it's the former, that's my whole point. MUST. WIN.
Trump and Republican even if its some swamp ass Rino better than a Dem winning a seat!
Breaking News, Graham endorses Biden.
CAROL FUCKIN BASKINS
That bitch
Please, oh please, all three.
Please warn me in advance, I need to don my double hearing protection. The "REEEEEEs!" would be loud enough to bring down mountains.
Same, need to make sure I got batteries for my Peltors
Pardoning Flynn would be a bad thing. He's innocent and he's already winning. Less than full dismissal would be a disappointment.
Plus he’s not officially been convicted, only charged.
He said it's not snowden or flynn.
Fair point.
Well when you need to blow the whistle on intelligence corruption and arent given real channels then you cant really do it in a perfect manner.
Not saying I totally trust him because he was intel too, but fuck the cia they use pedos as assets.
The only reason he did more harm than good is because our shit govt did fuck all about NSA invading our lives. So it was mostly for naught. Thats it.
Didnt ex cia just get busted spying for China this week?
Strawman I know but like I said I dont trust any intelligence or their assets.
Because he is a whistleblower. He had no recourse in the Obama administration through proper channels. He would have been silenced or killed. The NSA was/is spying on American citizens.
Show me where the spying program on American citizens is debunked. I'll read it...if it exists.
I think his options were: 1) say nothing and let the spying/trampling of rights continue 2) say something through official channels and be ignored (which he did) 3) flee the country, pass along info to reporters, and kill himself 4) flee the country, say something, and hide out in another country (eventually becoming their pawn to survive)
All along the way, the Obama administration had options too. 1) not be corrupt 2) have legitimate protections for whistleblowers 3) immediately pardon and bring him home. They willfully chose to ignore these options and let the situation play out. Because in the end, the government cared more about spying on their own citizens than protecting US assets or Snowden.
This is where you lost all credibility. Fucking shill
Damn you're an ignorant and insufferable cunt. Brainwashed by pop leftist ideas. Go back to reading your fake news horseshit.
So you're saying there's a chance....😂😂
My fun theory: He said he wouldn't pardon Snowden or Assange, but he will pardon Snowden AND Assange.
This guy booleans.
No problem there
Snowden will never be pardoned or forgiven by an US administration. He got intelligence assets killed in China.
Well the whole reason we have intelligence assets and whatnot is supposedly to protect our freedoms. So if those are being infringed in secret by the government, then I'd say the death of government assets is a necessary trade.
I'm sorry for any US agents that were harmed; but Snowden is an absolute hero in my book.
Looking around I can't find information that says he disclosed anything to China or Russia. The best I can find is theories that whatever reporters had might of leaked. Supposedly when he fled he no longer had access to the information.
Other articles I found mention lots of US assets killed there but because of other leaks, moles, and them meeting at places that were being monitored in China?
This article is a decent summary, and was written around the last time anyone took the notion of a Snowden pardon seriously: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fable-of-edward-snowden-1483143143
Since then it's been a settled question, kept alive only by the crackpot fringe, extremists of which have adopted him on both the left and the right.
McCain is that you?
Well, Hillary Clinton got all of our remaining China assets killed, so if she' not hiding in Russia, then neither should Snowden.
Snowden showed us how the current US Govt is trampling our 4th amendment rights, giving us at least a chance to try to make some reforms. The best thing Hillary ever did was to not have an abortion so we could have lots of Chelsea Clinton/Webb Hubbel memes.
PLEASE BE JULIAN ASSANGE!!!!!!
We need the White Wizard to testify and then get back to his life(with a large security detail).
Then the White Wizard
Could be a joint statement with UK on Assange in exchange for Seth Rich info right at start of DNC convention.
Edit: Or Susan B Anthony....
Stop, I can only get so erect
Bahahaha legend !
Lol that would be epic.
Assange. Let's go
Yes. Free the grey bread. Julian Assange has been a political prisoner for far to long.
Fingers crossed for Assange. The damage that man could do to the Dem's would be epic!
He did it to himself
If it’s Assange, I expect people to board planes because the pain is here.
You mean deep stagers boarding planes to flee? Am I reading you right?
Justice demands it
Trump's releasing an Afghan soldier who killed three Australians in cold blood, Heck Matoola or whoever you spell it (unless I've been lied to), he can release an Australian who has actually been a benefit to the world.
I would be surprised if it's Assange. They probably want him to enter evidence in court and then have him found not guilty. Flynn is probably going to get the case dismissed. Snowden would probably have the biggest impact right now.
I agree. It’s hard to read anything about him at this point :/
Why is he refusing to just say Seth Rich’s name?????? Would have Saved so much time JEZUS!!
We all know Crowdstrike CEO is scum and Crowdstrike is in on the scam. Hillary emails were taken out on a thumb drive. It was not the Russians.
Assange just needs to name his source!!!
Attempting to stay true to his credo that he/Wikileaks will never name their sources, I assume. But they were basically torturing him at one point after his arrest and Seth Rich is dead so I’m not really sure what he’s hanging onto at this point, unfortunately.
Only theory I have is that he's waiting for the opportune moment to do the most damage. Julian Assange is the master of that.
He already did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MNNX3IxTxM
tldr on him?
On ASSANGE? Have you been living in a cave, dude?
For 20 years.
"axechully..."
"PODESTA, WE HAVE YOUR EMAILS!"
Ever heard of Wikileaks and, you know, the thing?
The matter. Lol
C’mon man...
Listen wizard, you wanna do torrent uploads? I'll upload 20 mega bytes, c'mon man.
Like, with a cloth?
The official piñata of the global deep state ever since he published Podestas emails and exposed pedogate in the process
Assange was the main guy behind wikileaks. He leaked something that really pissed off the deep state so they framed him for a rape accusation in Sweden or something (it was a northern European country). He fled to London and the Ecuadorian embassy gave him amnesty but he had to stay in the embassy. Couldn’t even risk being near a window. Then the gov changed and he got kicked out of the embassy, ended in solitary confinement in a brit prison. His health ain’t good at this point.
The rape charge in Sweden was eventually dropped, but the US charged him with some shit. Conspiracy to access classified documents or some such. For murky reasons he's still being held in UK rather than extradited.
Ah, thanks.
I’ll to look into it, damn.
Thanks, I’ll add it to my research list.
its snowden, he said he would
The (body double of) the white wizard returns!
I'm voting Trump 2020 no matter what (Not that it matters in California), but Assange makes me feel a burden of guilt to do it.
All votes matter
Not if theyre for Jo Jorgenson
If she wants to make any impact at all she should start pushing JoJo memes now.
We shouldn’t criminalize journalism
There's a scenario in my fantasy dream world in which Durham/Barr are about to drop the hammer and he pardons Obama right before they do
Trump pardons -
Democrats and RINO’s impeach -
Trump and Pence must step down -
Pelosi refuses the job accidentally due to absurd amounts of alcohol -
In comes...
JEB!
Somehow clock resets and trump becomes eligible for another 2 terms
Please clap for the guac. 😕👏
It always ends with Jeb. That’s how we’ll know when the prophecy is complete.
We call him a joke now — but when he ultimately wins 538 electoral seats in November, will we be laughing then?
ROGER STONE AGAIN FOR THE LULZ!
Stone wasn't pardoned, his sentence was commuted. So this could be it, but I doubt it.
That way Stone gets to appeal and expose the corruption.
Stone reportedly dropped his appeal Monday. Hmmmm.
Interesting. I don't think he really counts as someone very, very, important though.
But in the context of the year 2020, it's arguable he's as important right now as Susan Anthony, although historically Susan Anthony was much more important.
Ah good point. There is a difference.
My first thought after watching shadow gate.
When did he say this?
Could you imagine if he preemptively pardoned Obama before all of the findings in regard to Obamagate were spilled to the public? Heads would literally explode
It would be such a brilliant move actually. Trump has been sounding the alarm on Obama for years and the MSM ignores it. If he pardons him, then they HAVE to cover the crimes he may have committed in order to report on the pardon of a past president.
Might as well. They’ll never throw the former President in prison.
So does Obama decline to accept the pardon, and take the chance he is prosecuted? That's a ballsy gamble.
Obama will forever be untouchable. Sad truth but a truth nonetheless. We can prove he committed Water Gate x 1000 but there’s an army of fall guys ahead of him.
I would love to be proven wrong though, if Obama gets put in handcuffs I wouldn’t know how to contain my excitement. Can you imagine?
Media: "Racist orange man accuses literal black savior of fictitious, delusional list of crimes. Believes all black men are criminals. #BLM #Commies4Life"
They're not capable of change.
Actually it would be the worst move in the history of mankind and Trump would lose reelection. I sure as hell wouldn't vote for him again if he refused to drain the Swamp. Obama has to be in jail at the end of this.
It would also remove 5th Amendment Protections for Obama.
Yeah hopefully not Obungo, I want to see him in court
Nah, it would be funnier if everyone he knows goes to jail and it's just him watching Netflix alone on the couch for next 40 years.
I'm leaning towards Biden.
We're not getting any justice out of him; by the time the trials finish he'll be going straight into hospice. If he even lives that long.
And bringing criminal charges against your most prominent political rival weeks before an election looks bad.
"Serving Justice looks bad."
No, no it doesn't. If it's a legit arrest politics don't mean shit and anyone that is outraged has a worthless opinion.
I would save that for an October Surprise.
Assange
Pardon Corn Pop
HIS NAME WAS CORN POP
COME ON MAN
CORN POP WAS A BAD BOY WHO RAN WITH SOME BAD BOYS..
You know.... the thing!
PARDON JEB
WILL TRADE GUAC BOWL FOR PARDON
WHAT ABOUT THE TURTLES
That made me laugh way harder than it should have.
JEB !
Jeb is a nasty guy
Nipples protruding
EVERYDAY IS LIKE CHRISTMAS WITH TRUMP!!!
REE STOP IMPOSING YOUR RELIGION ON OTHERS, BIGOT!~!!
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looks into forest
only sees tREEEEEEs
Do Dread Pirate Roberts after
He needs a commutation. He did do some really shitty things. But the sentence was draconian.
I’ll take it
Which one? Nobody knows who the original Dread Pirate Roberts is!
I think this one is the Silk Road guy.
Pirate Bay, not Silk Road.
Silk Road was the dark web drug market site run by Ross Ulbricht.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht
...also know as the Dread Pirate Roberts
The Dread Pirate Roberts leaves no survivors
Can't believe he got fucked as hard as he did.
I'm changing my answer. I think it will be Steve Stockman:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/08/stockman_conviction_a_roadmap_for_bidenharris_to_jail_conservative_activists.html
The jail refused to honor his doctors prescription for HCQ since he has Covid19..... WTF.
That's one you do after the election. Nobody outside politics knows who the fuck he is.
They will when Trump has a presser highlighting that bullshit
Interesting prediction, much better than everyone saying flynn/snowden after they specifically say its NOT them
He could tie this pardon in with some new revelation from the Obamagate investigation
There's supposed to be big developments on it today according to Sundance so it could be related!
Derek Chauvin.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Funny idea but would be political suicide
Funny because he’s also innocent
"Serving Justice is political suicide"
Those were state charges, not federal, so not in Trump's court.
Okay, bear with me here, I'm heading into the weeds here...
The US lodged a new "11th hour" request for extradition, last week, at the last minute. The UK courts and the EU press are NOT happy about it.
Trump is the kind of 5d chess player, that they know if Assange stays in the EU/UK, he's fucked. So extradite him here - and then pardon him. Then he's out of reach of the EU, and they can give him immunity from extradition.
Interesting is the US Attorney who filed the new complaint is a lawyer who was under heavy fire in 2008 for jailing muslim shithead terrorists. So def not a liberal. And, he operates out of Virginia.
Things that make you go "hmmmmm".
Dude - can you imagine if it was Assange - and he revealed his source in a public, congressional hearing.
"You know who got the files from the DNC Server, are you prepared to tell the world who gave them to you and if so would you do it now?"
"Yes, I am... HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!"
The Internet would form a singularity.
Even better he appears on white house livestream with GEOTUS minutes before they do the whole official nomination of Biden as dem candidate thing.
"We interrupt this broadcast with an important message from the President of the United States"
ROFLMAO - National Emergency Tweet "Assange just told us that Seth Rich gave him the DNC emails and he has proof Hillary Clinton had him murdered!"
True that.
I RECLAIM MY TIME
Because Sundance, from conservative tree house, is basically blackmailing them into telling the truth. He's briefed them on his evidence and knows things he isn't supposed to. I think the rushed cliensmith announcement was to buy time, and he says tomorrow will be "epic".
Not to get too hyped but it totally could be Julian.
I get that we’re all impatient for it to happen, and I love Conservative Treehouse, but I don’t like Sundance messing with GEOTUS’ timetables. If this was an October surprise and Sundance is making us blow our load in August, that is NOT cool man. I just hope it doesn’t cost us the election
Unfortunately if Trump pardons Assange then Sweden will probably renew their charges and extradition request.
As long as Assange is held outside the U.S. then he can't help Trump.
What o don't get is why Assange didn't just agree to extradition. Trump couldn't in any way indicate a willingness to pardon -- they dems would impeach again, they Swedes would renew their charges...
But this close to the election Assange can't help much anyways, so just pardon him.
AG Demers? Swamp, he hired Mueller prosecutors to push the charges on Flynn, and now is going after Assange.
No, Kromberg.
I was thinking of this indictment when I mentioned Demers https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-superseding-indictment
Kromberg's name is there, but just far down the list. He seems trapped in swamp soup there. Terwilliger is swamp, nominated by Tim Kaine.
Pardon that boner. Taping it down is cruel and unusual.
Flacid.
The McCloskey's!!!!!! It's a 2A power move!!!!
Ah damn, I saw Mark McCloskey's slated to speak at the RNC, thought I put it together
Assange is being held by the Brits, so it won't be him.
He said it's not Snowden or Flynn.
Martin Shkreli!? We should be so lucky
Arent they holding him because of charges in the US, as his lawyers fight extradition?
Yes - he is not under British charges, to my knowledge.
All charges are resolved except the US charges.
Make Shkreli the generic drug czar of domestic production. He knows a thing or two about shaving costs.
Holy fuck this would be hilarious but probably terrible PR.
Shkreli back in the day was the straw that broke the camels back for my trust in the media. I use his story as a way to show regular/inattentive folk how the media can make a good guy into public enemy number 1.
Loads of regular people can either vaguely remember him or default to “yeah he’s that douchebag evil pharma guy”
Bring him into the spotlight again and you have some nice new vehicles for the red pill
Omg Shkreli would be like a troll move to pardon an actual troll. Troll inception.
Unless it's Julian Assange it won't be worth it.
The further I read down this string, the more excited I get about the possibility of Assange actually being logical. Assange or bust!
Watch it be that Tiger King guy, lol.
I love it, that’s great!
Pardon Snowden and say he was helping to expose the deep state and stop the gobalists!
It has to be Assange. No one is more astute than PDJT. Who would have the most traction for him? Assange could put the final nail in the coffin of Muh Russia hacked the Dementia National Committee, and shed some light onto the fate of Seth Rich, may he Rest in Peace.
Please don't be Flynn. If you pardon him they will treat him as proven guilty. You CANNOT pardon an innocent man.
That said, pardon Assange who is also innocent but who is near death and who already has been punished for many years. #FreeAssange.
He says its not Flynn
I disagree.. pardoning Flynn would rile up the Dems.. but in the middle of their convention they would be hard-pressed to really go off about it at risk of ruining their messaging.
Plus.. having Flynn open to speak at the RNC convention would be unbelievable. The media would be forced to air his speech and i imagine it would be the most devastating for them if he talked about how his family was threatened
Manafort would be political suicide. They distanced themselves from him early on for a reason.
The Russia charges were certainly shit and I dont believe he should rot in jail, but he'd be an after-reelection choice. He's not a good guy. Shouldn't be in jail, but not necessarily deserving of a pardon just yet.
Ya it's going to be an obscure black civil rights warrior type dude
Trump taking over the news cycle during their convention. He’s so good at this.
Can’t beat the trump bump
I will be so sad if it's not Assange. The man is being tortured to death in Britain for doing the actual work all our phony journalists claim to do.
Has he been convicted in US courts? If not then its too early. Would love to get him to talk about Seth tho
Pre-emptive pardons exist. Nixon was pardoned before ever being charged.
I saw this a few months ago. Timing would be good.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/483833-rohrabacher-tells-yahoo-he-discussed-pardon-with-assange-for-proof
The executive can pardon anyone, even preemptively before they are charged.
Joe Exotic?!?!
So we will be ddos'd again tomorrow at about that time. That seems to be how this works. Unless, of course, we are the ddos :)
MAN THE MEME CANNONS!
0bama, right after the indictment is announced.
Proud Boys?
Said someone important.
Fucking rekt
wonder if its that c murder rapper guy? ..this is genius by trump though..commie convention is this week and hes doing things to stay in the headlines during it
Pardons Pence as Pence decks Biden
"I told you we were cracking down on pedophiles"
LOL!
Gold.
Blanket pardon Obama and Biden for their part in unmasking Flynn and Flynn only.... and force them to accept it before the DNC nomination... .
Either accept it and its news or refuse it and its news because the media would then be forced to ask them about it
Well, he said not Snowden or Flynn, so I'm hoping for Assange.
Very, very important person is Obama according to Paul Combetta, aka u/stonetear.
https://observer.com/2016/09/hillary-clintons-network-host-asked-reddit-how-to-delete-very-vip-emails/
That would be a nuke
Woah
Bill Cosby enters the chat...
How wonderful to know that Cosby is demanding to remain locked up as if to prove his innocence when pretty much everyone assumes he is guilty and rightfully imprisoned.
Morning Joe Scarborough??? Haha
Lol this would be the greatest troll ever
Media would lose their collective shit in spades.
TheWhiteWizard
“And I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide...”
James Comey for turning states evidence against Brenan, Clapper, Biden, Rice, Obama, Clinton, etc......
Or
Ghislaine Maxwell for turning over states evidence and tapes of worldwide pedos....
Or
Assange for turning evidence that Seth Rich was his source and was murdered.
I sincerely hope it's Assange.
He's going to pardon Biden so the election can move forward unimpeded.
He's not that kinda guy mistah officeuh
Not Assange, we need his testimony soon.
Why can't he testify after a pardon?
I guess Trump could use the pardon as leverage to get a full testimony
aha...
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/483833-rohrabacher-tells-yahoo-he-discussed-pardon-with-assange-for-proof
IIRC, I think I read somewhere that was a condition for him testifying, as relayed from his lawyers?
Wish I could remember where I found that... will have to search, which will send me down a rabbit hole..
Because he isn't legally obligated too...
Garrett Foster......oh hang on a second
Ouuuuch. Sucks to be him.
WikiLeaks is coming home.
And with Veritas on the stage, the veil will be torn from across the board
Not Snowden, he's getting treason charges.
Not Flynn, it must be thrown out to be fruit of the poisonous tree.
Assange? 👀
From Feb 2020 - Rohrabacher tells Yahoo he discussed pardon with Assange for proof Russia didn't hack DNC email
I'm praying it's Assange.
People on this board delude themselves that Snowden will ever pardoned or forgiven. He never will be any US administration, since he engaged in legit treason that resulted in CIA assets being murdered by the Chinese.
The intelligence community has a long memory. Snowden is personne non grata forever.
Nothing Snowden revealed hadn't been revealed before - you're confusing him with Manning's just dump everything approach.
Who cares what the intelligence community thinks at this point? They don't have our back. They're too busy trying to jam a knife in it.
Because Snowden doesn't have your back either. He's a traitor, whose treason only coincidentally coincided during Obama's term. If he meant well, he was incompetent. Otherwise, he was malicious. He got better and braver people killed.
Supporting him, is no different from being an antifag. But it's worse, because you're writing fan fiction in your head to try and paint him as a hero, when he wasn't.
My respect for our intelligence agencies ran out the day they tried to railroad Trump and his associates while allowing Hillary and Obama to walk free. When they demonstrate there are still patriots within their ranks, I may be swayed to care about Snowden's pardon.
Regardless. Snowden holds no more claim to sympathy than Bergdahl. Both lied. Both got better people killed. But Snowden was flipped by two enemy services, whereas Bergdahl only betrayed us to the Taliban.
It's sad that the bad actors of those who wormed their way to the top of the FBI food chain during the 8 years of the Obama presidency, have lead pedes to build a fantasy narrative that incorporates Snowden as a hero.
The US Intelligence agencies need a house cleaning. But they're still light years better than the Chinese or Russians.
Snowden isn't a hero. A hero in his situation would have fallen on the sword. Instead, he got some people killed trying to save his own ass. If you want to hold that against him, fair enough. I won't defend it.
But my disgust with our media, educational institutions, and government is much greater than what I have for Snowden. Snowden is one man and we're surrounded by enemies. I consider a pardon a fair exchange if it causes the deep state even the least bit of inconvenience.
I would like to think any patriots within the FBI, CIA, ect. are on board and would understand that. What is honor worth in a field that has already been sullied beyond recognition? Brennan, Comey, Strzok, Page, etc. If I were an agent, I'd feel much more dishonor serving along side them than if Snowden was pardoned.
You're not wrong. But as I said elsewhere, it's important to realize that the 'Snowden is a hero virus' began in the anti-American European media.
Antifa serves as a major conduit for leftist eurotrash media, which is how it filtered over here.
Those on the alt right only began to try and re-imagine Snowden as a hero (someone Trump said should be 'executed') because of like you said, all the FBI corruption.
But Snowden remains an antifa icon, and those who celebrate him are America's enemies.
That's why his fanboying needs to be squashed when it pops up here. We shouldn't cross pollinate with Antifa memes.
But that's not to say his treason/idiocy didn't expose other stuff going on. He just exposed it in the way that would hurt us most and help Russia/China the most.
Dr Theodore Kaczynski, welcome back to freedom to the coolest headed logician!
Ironically, Kaczynski's rants on the dangers of artificial intelligence are actually becoming valid. Google, Amazon, and Facebook are using AI to shape behavior, drive spending, and to suppress dissenting opinions.
It was nutty in the 90s but that guy was in academia and he saw this train long before it rolled up on us. It's too bad that he became a mostly unsuccessful bomber and not a vocal and well-known activist instead.
If you believe the media...I think he was Richard Jeweled but didn't know how to fight it, an easy target to frame due to his isolationism.
Nothing ironic about it. Dr Ted is ahead of his time. He should be pardoned and released into society without any monitoring because of covid concerns.
I’m scared of that guy, he could go on a killing spree again.
OMG WHAT IF HE PARDONS MAXWELL AND SHE SPILLS EVERYTHING
Why would she have any reason to after getting pardoned?