OP, people do not understand another massive way they cheat. I was told this by a woman at the Election Integrity Project which has done work with Judicial Watch.. In some states, mine for example, CA, illegals get a drivers license, are automatically registered to vote. Their license goes to their address, but the election docs and ballot are DIVERTED to other, unknown addresses, (DMV seems like it might be involved with this process to divert to other addresses, how else could it be done? Idk.) where operatives fill them out, sign and mail them in OR put in the drop boxes they have set up all over the state. The drop boxes must be so the operatives can mail a whole stack at one time and not have it look suspicious, like if you dropped off 100 at a time at the post office might attract attention and that is illegal to possess more that a certain small amount of ballots from other people, from what I heard). You can see if they re-route 50,000 and vote with them, and throw away an equal number of Republican ballots that were mailed in, they can flip any election. Especially when they tell us (like they did w/ my republican rep who lost her seat, along w/ many other in CA) that the election was won by the Dem candidate a WEEK AFTER THE ELECTION, when they finished counting the mailed in ballots. Voters can vote right up to the election with mailed in ballots, so officials have to wait till they receive them to count them. Of course they lied, and just replaced them with enough illegals', etc., ballots they had on hand, tossed the same amount of republcan ballots that were actually mailed in, and flipped the seat. THAT IS HOW THEY TOOK THE HOUSE.
And there are ads NOW on you tube BEFORE EVERY VIDEO, telling people now that they only need 4 seats to flip the senate right now, (ALONG WITH tons of Vote Biden ads) and that is their goal - to flip the Senate and impeach the President if he wins, and vote in whatever Hell they want on us.
They do have this all diabolically figured out "6 ways to Sunday," if we do not stop the mail in cheat-fest, and make it obvious how badly they have cheated all along, and they have. We were told this by a leak that they've always cheated, 4 years ago. He said Microsoft is on their "team" too, so does that mean electronic flipping? Call Election Integrity Project if you want further info. They'll call you back. People need to know it all. It's horrifying really.
No prob. We aren't the only state doing this either, where illegals get a license, and the whole scam starts ... someone ought to interview the people from Elect. Integrity Project on Tucker, etc.
You are too honest and normal. The Dems would actually enjoy, I think, cheating their way around this, and getting away with breaking the rules . . . They do not let rules and laws get in their way. But no worries, you're the better person for being the way you are.
No, they're not. Just because nobody does a damn thing to stop them doesn't mean they're smart. It just means they're brazen because nobody ever does a damn thing to stop them. Remember, one of these "smart" people had his email hacked and dumped on the American people because he used "password" as his password.
It doesn't take a smart person to brainwash people. It only takes enough people who are dumber than the brainwasher and are willing to be brainwashed.
They are professors, they are doctors, they are college educated, they know what they are doing.
"no one is advocating for universal mail-in voting (although 5 states do currently conduct 100% via mail and one is that liberal strong hold of Utah). Even if we did it wouldn’t affect their capacity to deliver, or it wouldn’t have before Trump decided to sabotage the process. But people should be able to vote by mail if they desire, just as Trump and a large portion of his staff have."
This is from a "libertarian", too. People are seriously delusional.
Did everyone in the country just go completely retarded these past few months?
People are already able to vote just like Trump if they want. He voted absentee, and every state in the country offers absentee voting. Most states even expanded their absentee ballots, basically getting rid of any requirements for them: all you gotta do is ask. All that's left, the only way to expand access to mail in voting any more, is to go to universal. If no one is advocating that (you know, except the Speaker of the House) then what the hell is he even suggesting we do?
Also, why would a "libertarian" care if the Post Office is sabotaged? It wasn't, but wouldn't that be a libertarian move? Does that guy know what libertarian means?
Is this one of those "left libertarians" who are really just socialists who like guns?
They forget states like Oregon which are 100% mail in ballot based update their voter rolls regularly and have a decent security process. (What I don't understand is WHY do they need the entire state to vote only by mail? If you're too lazy to go to the polls I don't want you deciding what happens in my life). Plus this is such a NON controversy. People who can't make it to the polls or are high risk for the China virus can just request an absentee ballot. This MASS mailing of ballots is fucking absolutely outrageous. What BOILS my blood is their attempt to eliminate the signature requirement! Are you kidding me?!
Only the ones in the big-leagues. The Politicians invented this with their own brand of genius. The little democrat didn't invent it, and probably can't understand it either.
That's whom I presume he is trying to persuade. I hope his target isn't the politicians. If so, there are bad things in his future.
Thank you for this. I remember when CA first started telling us they really didn't vote that way, it was cheating. Nobody believed them. We should have listened. They'll do this everywhere in November if we don't STOP it
Great call out. I didn't think about that. The issue then becomes cities which are heavily one party....ie LA having 50% of its ballots go missing for example.
Doesn’t even have to be marked, though. It’s public record how your district votes and men vote Trump more than women. So An envelope with a mans name from a red precinct is very likely a Trump ballot. And, of course, if your mail carrier knows you’ve got a Trump sign in your yard that is a pretty good indicator of what’s inside that envelope.
Here in Oregon the ballots aren't marked on the outside, but when they verify the signatures they use the registration database, which shows party affiliation. Unsurprisingly, many Republicans I know have had their ballots rejected because of claims that the signatures don't match. Democrat fuckery knows no bounds, and they will lie, cheat, and steal at every opportunity to gain power.
I fully expect them to mobilize like they never have before if Trump wins, which seems like a likely scenario considering how desperate they’ve become lately.
They have been hinting at claiming voter fraud already guy. They literally start a talking point in advance incase they need it down the road. Are you not paying attention?
Even when we win the election, they will claim Trump sabotaged the USPS to steal the election.
Even if on the immeasurably small chance that they do accept the results of the election, and hypothetically go, "Oh shit, our bad. Guess we'll go home now."
NO!!! It's too late for that. Things must change and they must change now.
No more affirmative action. Racism is wrong. Period. This is not hard to understand.
No more gender discrimination. I don't ever want to hear about ,"But muh wage gap" again. If chicks want equal money they can do some equal damn work.
Term Limits. We shot Brittish people to get rid of our ruling noble class and then let another one build itself on top of us. Being Senator similar to getting jury duty, i.e. "Hey honey, seems you got selected to be Representative for 4th district next year. Shit Baby tell them I can't, tell them I got an in grown toe nail or something. Do I need to get a doctors exscuse or something??"
SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT BE INDOCTRINATION CENTERS!!!!!
KEEP YOUR DEGENERACY OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW. We all have kinks that help us get our rocks off or whatever. Most of us don't need the general public to re-affirm how "brave" you are because of it. If you and your partner want to be freaks, be freaks in your own bedroom. Get it out of our streets.
NO MORE FUCKING THE KIDS!!! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST PEOPLE!!!
If militias are not already formed and at the ready there is no hope. Someone should take notes from Antifa/BLM and figure out how to organize underground like they do.
The militia considers itself "the last line of defense against a tyrannical government." It's not the federal government imposing tyranny. Militias haven't removed Governors under citizen's arrest so don't count on them doing anything at all. They're prepared for what's happened before over the last 100 years, not what's happening now. If you could make some local allies it would be worth the effort.
I'm not that familiar with the Civil War era. I'm thinking more along the lines of the creation of the Fed and IRS in 1913. They specifically told us we would know when that form of government they created had passed from the face of the earth because we'd be taxed in our food and our drink, our labor and our leisure, etc. It's a pretty lengthy passage, obviously modeled after the Pentateuch.
Being taxed on everything during time of war to pay for it is Constitutional. Before 1913 you can see the National debt accumulate and get paid off, in sync with war and peace. Did taxes get levied for the Civil War that never went away?
That’s not the plan. The plans is to make the election invalid so the congress picks the president. They don’t trust the people to make the right choice anymore
This is the gospel truth. We're the engine driving the machine because we're responsible, hard working, tax paying Americans supporting our own families first and the slackers by default. We don't have time to riot or loot and we're good people so we oppose that anyway. The best way we could revolt if there's election fraud would be to all band together and refuse to pay our taxes. They can't put half the country in jail. Especially when our half of the country comprise the only people contributing to the economy.
It’s not that they don’t trust us, it’s that they despise us. Pelosi, Inc. already KNOWS who the citizens will overwhelmingly vote for and that’s not acceptable. So they are going to literally destroy our right to choose a president in order to install their choice and regain power. This time around it’s a coup against the American people.
It's been that ever since the "resist" movement started. That's what every color revolution has been called. Just like Ukraine, Syria, Venezuela, etc. We have but one way out of this, and it's not the path the Allman Brothers chose
Imagine if somebody who has TDS and works at the post office gets a hold of a Republican ballot because of how its labeled. Do you think they'll turn it in, knowing it's a vote Trump?
I firmly believe that the completed ballots of entire neighborhoods, districts and counties will be re-routed, stolen or destroyed on the spot long before they ever get anywhere near their designated election tallying center. It’s no secret which way specific areas in this country tend to vote. Just look at who the federal congressman is for that district. Hmmm, had a R rep for the last 20 years...lots of American flags, MAGA signs, Trump bumper stickers - ooops! I could have sworn there were 10 bags of mail-in ballots, now there’s only 6 in the truck. Oh well...I must have miscounted. Well, damn! The sorting machine must have malfunctioned because most of the mail-in ballots from zip code 12345 got mangled! They’re completely unreadable. Sorry!
Don't have to imagine. That's how a State Supreme Court seat was stolen in WI. Wisconsin. Home of the cheesemakers! Wholesome as can be. Appleton. Door County cherries. Like stepping into a Norman Rockwell painting. If they'll do it here, they'll do it anywhere.
This is exactly it. You don’t even need to lay out hypothetical scenarios about mail in voting - you just need them to explain how having your vote handled by dozens of people over the course of a few days and trusting the person who receives the vote to register it correctly is more sEcUrE than going to a polling station and getting a receipt for your vote that only you touched and registered yourself.
We don't get that here. Other than that, our in-person voting is pretty good. Although I have no idea how the electronic counting works, and poll workers certainly have no oversight of that.
There have been no double-blind placebo-controlled studies which prove that systematic and widespread cheating have occurred. It's the gold standard, Drumpers!
If the left is ACTUALLY afraid trump will steal the election, they should demand voter ID.
If I was going to steal the election, I wouldn’t be clamoring for mail in ballots like the left, no siree. What I would do, is complain about it, make it LOOK like I’m super opposed to the idea of it, and then as president, use the criminal strategy to get reelected that way, nobody would suspect me.
Unfortunately there are more criminals registered Democrat than republican tho, but we should push this theory with headlines like
“Here’s why Trump is pretending to be against mail in votes, the reason will blow your mind!”
I like it- though maybe I would change the language- "criminal operative" is something of a term of art, maybe go with "Dishonest people" or "Election fraudsters" or even "Cheats".
Perhaps countersink with a simple panel showing ballots in a pile, with the dishonest ones indicated, and then a panel saying "Somebody could have the right to run this country, just because they were better fraudsters"
I'm in PA, and 3 people live in my house. We have received mail-in voting shit for two of us who live here, and four people who do not. One roommate who lived here a year ago but was registered to vote before moving back to NY (understandable, but still proof it is not a good system,) the guy who sold us the house. The woman who (I presume) lived here before him. And the mother of the family that lives as the same number on another street across town which begins with the same letter as the name as our street, whose mail we receive often.
Isn't there a secret ballot issue to be raised in the courts? They want ballots mailed in to them and they can be screened. With in person voting the ballot goes directly from a booth to a ballot machine or drop box. They also want cheat by mail because it is more difficult to furnish Pedro and Margarita an Anglo sounding name to use to request a ballot at a polling place. Furnish a name for a ballot to be mailed in and they could create millions of false Democrat votes.
THIS! I have tried to explain this to my parents and they called me one of those tin foil hat people. They said "why would criminals do this?" I Said "these criminals are no Dunuffins" They are Gov operatives who can easily harvest this stuff. Still didn't believe me.
I bet my life if I would have said Trump or Republicans then they would have believed it hook line and sinker.
It's even simpler in small towns where the mail workers know the residents. They will just literally throw ballots out. One of my regular mail men is an outspoken Trump hater.
I had a coworker years ago who always insisted on him and his wife voting absentee, so that he could make sure she voted for the people he wanted her to vote for. He also had a domestic-violence conviction against him, go figure.
Unfortunately this is only one of many ways of cheating by mail. There are also "wholesale" mass cheating scenarios such as interception/tampering within the logistical chain, mass printing, and so on.
Part 2: governor send ballots to everyone in the state. Criminals print up thousands of duplicate ballots and fill them out with legitimate voter information. They mail the ballots immediately so theirs arrives first and now your vote is invalid.
Part 3: postal worker in a swing state simply discards ballots if the from address is a male-sounding name from a district that leans Republican. That would eliminate 8 Trump votes for every 2 Biden votes they throw away.
It’s the “criminal operatives harvest unclaimed ballots from mailboxes or from vacant addresses” one that is the biggest problem. There is going to be a staggeringly large number of blank ballots floating out there since a good chunk of people don’t vote no matter what. That number would be more than enough for even a small group of dedicated people to collect enough ballots to shift the results in some congressional districts and maybe even whole states if the vote is close.
You forgot an even easier way to cheat by mail. Some states have your voter registration on the outside of your ballot. They can just throw Republican ones out.
This is what the electoral college is for—a kind of quarantining of states full of bad votes—to make sure those votes can't count above the actual amount of people there(what the census is really for, and also why illegals can't be counted in the census). Without the EC, Blue States's(BS) bad votes will "spill" over the state's totals which are not so corrupt(they don't have so many votes per person, maybe only 1 or 2 instead of twenty). Right now this sort of stuff doesn't actually influence the actual election—except a lot of so called blue states might actually be red (even California if you think about it).
It's worse than that. Mail-in ballots can include hidden indications of a voter's party registration so that partisan election officials can discard it.
You're forgetting the most important one: Vote-by-mail doesn't require an identity check or even a signature. Corrupt governments operatives can simply print more ballots to keep themselves or their masters in power.
I wonder how much organized criminal operatives are even necessary. All they have to do is mail out ballots to every registered voter. How many Democrats that receive a ballot for their cat, former resident, deceased relative, etc. would choose to do the right thing and not fill it out? I bet 90-something percent of them would send it in full of orange man bad votes.
You should add in there where mail carriers, whose union donates 85% to Democrats, can 'disappear' ballots from whole neighborhoods or even towns where they know overwhelmingly vote for Trump. A mail carrier could simply slip ballots between the seats when pulling them out of mailboxes with Trump signs or American flags in front, and dispose of them later.
Step 5 >> Trump passes an EO that invalidates all mail in ballots that aren't witnessed and notorized (absentee)
The left cries, calls for impeachment after Trump wins
Trump then mass arrests half of congress after publishing their blackmail control file with blurring on the juveniles being raped
Then well armed and full swat gear motorcycle patriots storm the jail where theyu're being held after swarming and disarming the capitol / dc police and detaining them, pull the congresspeople out, execute them on periscope and brik tok or whatever they will call it by then, because they know the judiciary is corrupt and won't prosecute them properly
So simple even Democrats might understand it.
They not only understand it but they're hoping we're too stupid to catch on.
Well, that didn't take long to be proven wrong. Unfortunately, our RINO "elected officials" are too busy hand-wringing to do anything about it.
This is how they have been winning elections in Oregon for decades.
Even the hermaphrodites.
But still only two genders!
Yes. There are an infinite amount of genders as long as you get to pick one of the two.
COnfused
Kek!
Kek!!! Do they get one ballot per gender, depending on mood?
OP, people do not understand another massive way they cheat. I was told this by a woman at the Election Integrity Project which has done work with Judicial Watch.. In some states, mine for example, CA, illegals get a drivers license, are automatically registered to vote. Their license goes to their address, but the election docs and ballot are DIVERTED to other, unknown addresses, (DMV seems like it might be involved with this process to divert to other addresses, how else could it be done? Idk.) where operatives fill them out, sign and mail them in OR put in the drop boxes they have set up all over the state. The drop boxes must be so the operatives can mail a whole stack at one time and not have it look suspicious, like if you dropped off 100 at a time at the post office might attract attention and that is illegal to possess more that a certain small amount of ballots from other people, from what I heard). You can see if they re-route 50,000 and vote with them, and throw away an equal number of Republican ballots that were mailed in, they can flip any election. Especially when they tell us (like they did w/ my republican rep who lost her seat, along w/ many other in CA) that the election was won by the Dem candidate a WEEK AFTER THE ELECTION, when they finished counting the mailed in ballots. Voters can vote right up to the election with mailed in ballots, so officials have to wait till they receive them to count them. Of course they lied, and just replaced them with enough illegals', etc., ballots they had on hand, tossed the same amount of republcan ballots that were actually mailed in, and flipped the seat. THAT IS HOW THEY TOOK THE HOUSE.
And there are ads NOW on you tube BEFORE EVERY VIDEO, telling people now that they only need 4 seats to flip the senate right now, (ALONG WITH tons of Vote Biden ads) and that is their goal - to flip the Senate and impeach the President if he wins, and vote in whatever Hell they want on us.
They do have this all diabolically figured out "6 ways to Sunday," if we do not stop the mail in cheat-fest, and make it obvious how badly they have cheated all along, and they have. We were told this by a leak that they've always cheated, 4 years ago. He said Microsoft is on their "team" too, so does that mean electronic flipping? Call Election Integrity Project if you want further info. They'll call you back. People need to know it all. It's horrifying really.
Thanks for the feedback! Very insightful and I had no idea, thank you for sharing!
No prob. We aren't the only state doing this either, where illegals get a license, and the whole scam starts ... someone ought to interview the people from Elect. Integrity Project on Tucker, etc.
I just had an idea that might partially solve this for both sides.
Make a new rule that the second the clock hits 12 on the night of the election any votes that weren't received yet are no longer valid.
Just make sure everyone knows: If they want to mail something in they better get it sent a week ahead of time to be sure.
If the Democrats protest then ask them them to go ahead and keep the voting stations open until the last mail in vote comes in then.
You are too honest and normal. The Dems would actually enjoy, I think, cheating their way around this, and getting away with breaking the rules . . . They do not let rules and laws get in their way. But no worries, you're the better person for being the way you are.
I'd like to introduce you to California Secretary of State and Hillary lackey, Alex Padilla:
Alex Padilla Sued Again Over California Election Fraud Claims Supported By Bernie Sanders Fans
too long.
Well how long is OK, or too long, living under a Marxist regimen?
About 7 centuries.
No. They don't give them votes at all. They are too unstable. They vote for them.
No, they're not. Just because nobody does a damn thing to stop them doesn't mean they're smart. It just means they're brazen because nobody ever does a damn thing to stop them. Remember, one of these "smart" people had his email hacked and dumped on the American people because he used "password" as his password.
It doesn't take a smart person to brainwash people. It only takes enough people who are dumber than the brainwasher and are willing to be brainwashed.
None of this is indicative of intelligence.
Excellent point. I'm not trying to reach those people, they are purposeful liars. I'm trying to reach the people they have duped.
I was told the following:
"no one is advocating for universal mail-in voting (although 5 states do currently conduct 100% via mail and one is that liberal strong hold of Utah). Even if we did it wouldn’t affect their capacity to deliver, or it wouldn’t have before Trump decided to sabotage the process. But people should be able to vote by mail if they desire, just as Trump and a large portion of his staff have."
This is from a "libertarian", too. People are seriously delusional.
Did everyone in the country just go completely retarded these past few months?
People are already able to vote just like Trump if they want. He voted absentee, and every state in the country offers absentee voting. Most states even expanded their absentee ballots, basically getting rid of any requirements for them: all you gotta do is ask. All that's left, the only way to expand access to mail in voting any more, is to go to universal. If no one is advocating that (you know, except the Speaker of the House) then what the hell is he even suggesting we do?
Also, why would a "libertarian" care if the Post Office is sabotaged? It wasn't, but wouldn't that be a libertarian move? Does that guy know what libertarian means?
Is this one of those "left libertarians" who are really just socialists who like guns?
Hasn’t spoken to Governor Murphy then?
You can vote in person but he’s massively limiting the number of polling places. AND you vote by provisional ballot.
Sounds pretty fucking universal to me.
They forget states like Oregon which are 100% mail in ballot based update their voter rolls regularly and have a decent security process. (What I don't understand is WHY do they need the entire state to vote only by mail? If you're too lazy to go to the polls I don't want you deciding what happens in my life). Plus this is such a NON controversy. People who can't make it to the polls or are high risk for the China virus can just request an absentee ballot. This MASS mailing of ballots is fucking absolutely outrageous. What BOILS my blood is their attempt to eliminate the signature requirement! Are you kidding me?!
They fucking invented it.
Only the ones in the big-leagues. The Politicians invented this with their own brand of genius. The little democrat didn't invent it, and probably can't understand it either. That's whom I presume he is trying to persuade. I hope his target isn't the politicians. If so, there are bad things in his future.
Thank you for this. I remember when CA first started telling us they really didn't vote that way, it was cheating. Nobody believed them. We should have listened. They'll do this everywhere in November if we don't STOP it
Also tossing any ballots marked with a R
This.
It's been demonstrated that the political affiliation, "R" or "D" is visually marked within a tracking code right on the packages.
Easier to 'accidentally lose' tens of thousands of them in every state that way.
But aren't those only in the primaries? There would be only one ballot for a general election
Ever notice how primaries are set up solely to offer one candidate? We dont choose anyone.
Great call out. I didn't think about that. The issue then becomes cities which are heavily one party....ie LA having 50% of its ballots go missing for example.
And considering the democratic party grows more nihilistic and morally bankrupt they're ever more likely to be ok with doing just that.
Doesn’t even have to be marked, though. It’s public record how your district votes and men vote Trump more than women. So An envelope with a mans name from a red precinct is very likely a Trump ballot. And, of course, if your mail carrier knows you’ve got a Trump sign in your yard that is a pretty good indicator of what’s inside that envelope.
Here in Oregon the ballots aren't marked on the outside, but when they verify the signatures they use the registration database, which shows party affiliation. Unsurprisingly, many Republicans I know have had their ballots rejected because of claims that the signatures don't match. Democrat fuckery knows no bounds, and they will lie, cheat, and steal at every opportunity to gain power.
Has anybody gotten one of these for independent?
OK come on, let's be realistic.
Antifa would burn down a city for 80 days, sure, but they wouldn't steal ballots from vacant addresses or unlocked mailboxes!
They are going to cheat, cheat extensively and still loose. I'm going to start a salt mining business.
this is true. The locks on the doors to my house are not locked for my protection.
I fully expect them to mobilize like they never have before if Trump wins, which seems like a likely scenario considering how desperate they’ve become lately.
For this to happen, we need to make sure the win is an uncontest
The military gets called in ASAP once fighting breaks out. If the first rush of early violence takes us by surprise, that's it, we lost.
It's called initiative. We need to take it, and finish it in one night. The military can't respond that fast.
buy more ammo.
They have been hinting at claiming voter fraud already guy. They literally start a talking point in advance incase they need it down the road. Are you not paying attention?
Even when we win the election, they will claim Trump sabotaged the USPS to steal the election.
Even if on the immeasurably small chance that they do accept the results of the election, and hypothetically go, "Oh shit, our bad. Guess we'll go home now."
NO!!! It's too late for that. Things must change and they must change now.
No more affirmative action. Racism is wrong. Period. This is not hard to understand.
No more gender discrimination. I don't ever want to hear about ,"But muh wage gap" again. If chicks want equal money they can do some equal damn work.
Term Limits. We shot Brittish people to get rid of our ruling noble class and then let another one build itself on top of us. Being Senator similar to getting jury duty, i.e. "Hey honey, seems you got selected to be Representative for 4th district next year. Shit Baby tell them I can't, tell them I got an in grown toe nail or something. Do I need to get a doctors exscuse or something??"
SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT BE INDOCTRINATION CENTERS!!!!!
KEEP YOUR DEGENERACY OUT OF PUBLIC VIEW. We all have kinks that help us get our rocks off or whatever. Most of us don't need the general public to re-affirm how "brave" you are because of it. If you and your partner want to be freaks, be freaks in your own bedroom. Get it out of our streets.
NO MORE FUCKING THE KIDS!!! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST PEOPLE!!!
Underrated comment
Fighting fraud NOW should be our focus. Do you have specific ideas?
We do have the option of fighting fraud now til November just as hard as we know we'll have to fight for our lives. It's worth trying
If militias are not already formed and at the ready there is no hope. Someone should take notes from Antifa/BLM and figure out how to organize underground like they do.
The militia considers itself "the last line of defense against a tyrannical government." It's not the federal government imposing tyranny. Militias haven't removed Governors under citizen's arrest so don't count on them doing anything at all. They're prepared for what's happened before over the last 100 years, not what's happening now. If you could make some local allies it would be worth the effort.
No one alive has ever seen anything remotely like what our founding Fathers created.
The right are lone wolves. We don't organize. It takes hundreds of them to take out a few of us. We have to have a 300:1 ratio. Then we win.
I'm not that familiar with the Civil War era. I'm thinking more along the lines of the creation of the Fed and IRS in 1913. They specifically told us we would know when that form of government they created had passed from the face of the earth because we'd be taxed in our food and our drink, our labor and our leisure, etc. It's a pretty lengthy passage, obviously modeled after the Pentateuch.
Being taxed on everything during time of war to pay for it is Constitutional. Before 1913 you can see the National debt accumulate and get paid off, in sync with war and peace. Did taxes get levied for the Civil War that never went away?
"The ONLY logical reason to oppose voter ID is to support voter fraud." -- Me, every conversation about it in the last 10 years.
Fucking India has voter ID
Even fucking bums have ID.
That’s not the plan. The plans is to make the election invalid so the congress picks the president. They don’t trust the people to make the right choice anymore
Its win win. They cheat, don't get caught. = Dem President The cheat, get caught, election invalid = congress votes = Dem President
The only way we can win is to get so many votes cheating doesn't matter.
No. This MUST not happen. This is the end game; there is no "next time."
This is the gospel truth. We're the engine driving the machine because we're responsible, hard working, tax paying Americans supporting our own families first and the slackers by default. We don't have time to riot or loot and we're good people so we oppose that anyway. The best way we could revolt if there's election fraud would be to all band together and refuse to pay our taxes. They can't put half the country in jail. Especially when our half of the country comprise the only people contributing to the economy.
Congress voting favors us.
How so? We're talking Nancy Pelosi here.
She can fraud the vote just as much? We do have a majority, but I forget how thin. Maybe as little as 1 State?
Yeah senate picks the vp.
House picks POTUS, and we have the majority of that vote.
It’s not that they don’t trust us, it’s that they despise us. Pelosi, Inc. already KNOWS who the citizens will overwhelmingly vote for and that’s not acceptable. So they are going to literally destroy our right to choose a president in order to install their choice and regain power. This time around it’s a coup against the American people.
It's been that ever since the "resist" movement started. That's what every color revolution has been called. Just like Ukraine, Syria, Venezuela, etc. We have but one way out of this, and it's not the path the Allman Brothers chose
Imagine if somebody who has TDS and works at the post office gets a hold of a Republican ballot because of how its labeled. Do you think they'll turn it in, knowing it's a vote Trump?
Or if they see a Trump flag.
My postman delivers packages under the shadow of my large Trump flag everytime he comes up to the house.
I firmly believe that the completed ballots of entire neighborhoods, districts and counties will be re-routed, stolen or destroyed on the spot long before they ever get anywhere near their designated election tallying center. It’s no secret which way specific areas in this country tend to vote. Just look at who the federal congressman is for that district. Hmmm, had a R rep for the last 20 years...lots of American flags, MAGA signs, Trump bumper stickers - ooops! I could have sworn there were 10 bags of mail-in ballots, now there’s only 6 in the truck. Oh well...I must have miscounted. Well, damn! The sorting machine must have malfunctioned because most of the mail-in ballots from zip code 12345 got mangled! They’re completely unreadable. Sorry!
Don't have to imagine. That's how a State Supreme Court seat was stolen in WI. Wisconsin. Home of the cheesemakers! Wholesome as can be. Appleton. Door County cherries. Like stepping into a Norman Rockwell painting. If they'll do it here, they'll do it anywhere.
This is exactly it. You don’t even need to lay out hypothetical scenarios about mail in voting - you just need them to explain how having your vote handled by dozens of people over the course of a few days and trusting the person who receives the vote to register it correctly is more sEcUrE than going to a polling station and getting a receipt for your vote that only you touched and registered yourself.
"Getting a receipt for your vote."
We don't get that here. Other than that, our in-person voting is pretty good. Although I have no idea how the electronic counting works, and poll workers certainly have no oversight of that.
There have been no double-blind placebo-controlled studies which prove that systematic and widespread cheating have occurred. It's the gold standard, Drumpers!
I'm pretty sure I'm still voting straight ticket democrat in California despite having moved out of that state 10 years ago.
If the left is ACTUALLY afraid trump will steal the election, they should demand voter ID.
If I was going to steal the election, I wouldn’t be clamoring for mail in ballots like the left, no siree. What I would do, is complain about it, make it LOOK like I’m super opposed to the idea of it, and then as president, use the criminal strategy to get reelected that way, nobody would suspect me.
Unfortunately there are more criminals registered Democrat than republican tho, but we should push this theory with headlines like
“Here’s why Trump is pretending to be against mail in votes, the reason will blow your mind!”
Democrats print millions of false ballots and post them in.
Some people will vote by mail and the ALSO vote in person!
I'm certain that there will be a ballot mailed to my old address in Virginia. They still have me registered there even after moving last year.
Yup same with me in CT even though I moved out 4 years ago. I’ve tried to cancel my registration and it’s pretty much impossible there too.
Exactly my fears with mail-in voting.
I like it- though maybe I would change the language- "criminal operative" is something of a term of art, maybe go with "Dishonest people" or "Election fraudsters" or even "Cheats".
Perhaps countersink with a simple panel showing ballots in a pile, with the dishonest ones indicated, and then a panel saying "Somebody could have the right to run this country, just because they were better fraudsters"
Wait.... 400 ballots shouldn’t have the exact same signature?
There is no signature requirement.
I'm in PA, and 3 people live in my house. We have received mail-in voting shit for two of us who live here, and four people who do not. One roommate who lived here a year ago but was registered to vote before moving back to NY (understandable, but still proof it is not a good system,) the guy who sold us the house. The woman who (I presume) lived here before him. And the mother of the family that lives as the same number on another street across town which begins with the same letter as the name as our street, whose mail we receive often.
Isn't there a secret ballot issue to be raised in the courts? They want ballots mailed in to them and they can be screened. With in person voting the ballot goes directly from a booth to a ballot machine or drop box. They also want cheat by mail because it is more difficult to furnish Pedro and Margarita an Anglo sounding name to use to request a ballot at a polling place. Furnish a name for a ballot to be mailed in and they could create millions of false Democrat votes.
I hate hate hate hate hate that stupid faceless globohomo art style. It's everywhere that that mindset has taken hold.
Which means it's perfect for this, since that's exactly the mindset this is meant for. You nailed it.
lmao! Thank you, thank you
Why can't we vote at the liquor store?!
This shit happened to me. I’m still registered to vote at my moms address in CT even though I moved out of the state years ago.
Who’s to say The Russians, Chinese CCP, Iranians, Pakistanis won’t print up counterfeit ballots and flood the zone?
Kek!!!!!
THIS! I have tried to explain this to my parents and they called me one of those tin foil hat people. They said "why would criminals do this?" I Said "these criminals are no Dunuffins" They are Gov operatives who can easily harvest this stuff. Still didn't believe me.
I bet my life if I would have said Trump or Republicans then they would have believed it hook line and sinker.
This is exactly what they want and they understand it perfectly. Fucking scumbags....we need a civil war if Trump does not win.
It's even simpler in small towns where the mail workers know the residents. They will just literally throw ballots out. One of my regular mail men is an outspoken Trump hater.
This happened in WI.
It can be even simpler than that.
OMG. That's absolutely hilarious. Didnt Billary blame her lost on women being intimidated by their fathers and husbands? lmao
I had a coworker years ago who always insisted on him and his wife voting absentee, so that he could make sure she voted for the people he wanted her to vote for. He also had a domestic-violence conviction against him, go figure.
Some states want to have automatic registration too
Unfortunately this is only one of many ways of cheating by mail. There are also "wholesale" mass cheating scenarios such as interception/tampering within the logistical chain, mass printing, and so on.
Here are my ideas for part 2 and part 3:
Part 2: governor send ballots to everyone in the state. Criminals print up thousands of duplicate ballots and fill them out with legitimate voter information. They mail the ballots immediately so theirs arrives first and now your vote is invalid.
Part 3: postal worker in a swing state simply discards ballots if the from address is a male-sounding name from a district that leans Republican. That would eliminate 8 Trump votes for every 2 Biden votes they throw away.
Mail in ballots are safe and secure. Also the in-person election of 2016 was hacked by the Russians. lol
They do understand it. That's why they want to do it!
It’s the “criminal operatives harvest unclaimed ballots from mailboxes or from vacant addresses” one that is the biggest problem. There is going to be a staggeringly large number of blank ballots floating out there since a good chunk of people don’t vote no matter what. That number would be more than enough for even a small group of dedicated people to collect enough ballots to shift the results in some congressional districts and maybe even whole states if the vote is close.
You forgot an even easier way to cheat by mail. Some states have your voter registration on the outside of your ballot. They can just throw Republican ones out.
This is what the electoral college is for—a kind of quarantining of states full of bad votes—to make sure those votes can't count above the actual amount of people there(what the census is really for, and also why illegals can't be counted in the census). Without the EC, Blue States's(BS) bad votes will "spill" over the state's totals which are not so corrupt(they don't have so many votes per person, maybe only 1 or 2 instead of twenty). Right now this sort of stuff doesn't actually influence the actual election—except a lot of so called blue states might actually be red (even California if you think about it).
Illegals are counted in the census.
It's worse than that. Mail-in ballots can include hidden indications of a voter's party registration so that partisan election officials can discard it.
You're forgetting the most important one: Vote-by-mail doesn't require an identity check or even a signature. Corrupt governments operatives can simply print more ballots to keep themselves or their masters in power.
I wonder how much organized criminal operatives are even necessary. All they have to do is mail out ballots to every registered voter. How many Democrats that receive a ballot for their cat, former resident, deceased relative, etc. would choose to do the right thing and not fill it out? I bet 90-something percent of them would send it in full of orange man bad votes.
You should add in there where mail carriers, whose union donates 85% to Democrats, can 'disappear' ballots from whole neighborhoods or even towns where they know overwhelmingly vote for Trump. A mail carrier could simply slip ballots between the seats when pulling them out of mailboxes with Trump signs or American flags in front, and dispose of them later.
Step 5 >> Trump passes an EO that invalidates all mail in ballots that aren't witnessed and notorized (absentee)
The left cries, calls for impeachment after Trump wins
Trump then mass arrests half of congress after publishing their blackmail control file with blurring on the juveniles being raped
Then well armed and full swat gear motorcycle patriots storm the jail where theyu're being held after swarming and disarming the capitol / dc police and detaining them, pull the congresspeople out, execute them on periscope and brik tok or whatever they will call it by then, because they know the judiciary is corrupt and won't prosecute them properly
Radical action is needed. There are many flaws with this plan:
we don't organize
DC is a fortress. Feds won't hesitate to mow down a frontal assault, or so I've been told by more than one person who should know
If DJT goes that far, we might do more good by acting beginning at our State Capitols
The swamp is unelected bureaucrats. Those in the DC area might do more good with them
What if you have access to the Xerox machine?