Sadly it looks like they were stopped, but if anyone else decides to do the same it's not enough to lock your kid in a basement. You need to deprogram them. I'm not sure what the best method is, but I'm sure it involves discussing the issue in an accepting and loving way.
It's OK to act masculine or feminine regardless of sex. They don't need other people to force them into gender norms. They can love and be in a relationship with who they please. They can't force others to accept them, and just changing their body won't make their pain go away. One must love themselves before expecting anyone else to.
Watch videos together like this interview with Dr. Debra Soh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9NeQTkJjIs Read the comments. There are several people who may have gone through the same emotional roller-coaster as your son or daughter.
Show them the horror stories and results of "reassignment surgery" (only a google search away - lots of them on 4chan) Even if they aren't doing the full surgery yet, taking hormone blockers at such a young age will irrevocably damage their body. (some stories mentioned in those comments above) Everything about it is "experimental". It isn't a routine, commonly accepted procedure.
Point out logical flaws in their thinking. The kinds of things talked about here regularly when we make fun of these weirdos. You'll need to ask questions and understand the child to know how to respond, but they need to know that their biological sex will never change. If you surgically grafted a trunk on, you wouldn't become an elephant would you?
Let them know about the detrans movement. There are discussion forums out there like "/r/detrans/" on reddit. That forum specifically is very controlled, like all of reddit, so it's very pro-LGBT. I don't know the best place so this is something you'll want to review ahead of time, but it should help to know there are other people out there who feel the way they do but DON'T need to transition, or did and want to go back. (it's not like removing a tattoo...)
Possibly explain to them the origin of the trans movement, reassignment surgery, and it's connections to pedophilia.
Of course all this depends on how much time you have with them, and what is age appropriate. (it's ridiculous that this has to be pointed out, yet the kid can go through with such a procedure)
I have heard that people have helped understand the illogicality of progressive-ism after reading this. There's a human spirit that we are all created equal in. Making debates about things unrelated are how they win. As Max Weber coined, people need to gain verhesten to understand another person's conception fully
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. Any Doctor who mutilates children's genitals, is therefore subject to genital mutilation. The nice house, the cars, all that money being made off this insanity, matters very little if they're permanently maimed. Pay attention to that possibility Medical Professionals.
Eye for an Eye. This has long, long, long been the way.
Oh it was sir. I once supported it, now I have done a complete 180.
What you do in the privacy of your own home is your business. That is where the line should have been draw. Don't ask don't tell. Perfect policy.
Homosexuals are not bad people, but they are deviants, deviancy should not be supported nor promoted. They could make any private contract they wanted, but to give them legal status as married has hurt our society.
At some point, some family member will. Maybe even some of the victims of these tragedies when they grow up. Many will suicide. It's a foregone conclusion that statically, some will go the other route and turn the rage in the other direction, with the outcome being targeted murder.
GTFO, they were fixing to butcher a minor's genitals for "muh feelings and stuff". If you want your franks and beans rearranged when you turn 18 so be it, this should in no way be allowed on minors.
I dunno about even then. Granted I'm in the single most shittiest state, but literally everything to do with adulting here requires age 21.
Everything to do with vices that is. You can invest, buy a home, get married, sign up to go to war and all that, but you can't buy a beer or smokes or a gun.
Wait a tick. I hadn't even thought about that. You can enlist in the military ... but can't buy a gun on your own? God this state has gone full retard.
There are probably exceptions but meh. Just put everything back to age 18 if you're gonna do something like this.
It's medical barbarism. Shouldn't ever be allowed by a practicing doctor. Of course if they really want to cut themselves up or fly to Sweden to have it done, they'll be able to do that once they're an adult.
Do I support pointing a gun at the people who waste time and money for choreographed tiktok dances, have no issues with physically and chemically altering minors for woke points, and want to tell me I have to take a vaccine and wear a mask? Jesus tittyfucking, I thought you'd never ask!
I don't see this as any different then saving someone from being euthanized. Given the transgender suicide rate is 50%, that is basically what is happening here.
We support logic, liberty and equality under law (not outcome). This shit with elective gender surgery should not even be a discussion point for ANYONE that is under 18. Why? Choices have consequences, and this is a choice that forces terrible consequences not realized by children, liberal adults, or mentally ill. This kid might be asking for it, I don't care-not ready to make this decision at this age. Adults should know better than to enable it.
Hope they make it to a non extradition country, or annihilate anyone attempting to carry out this barbaric act in their path.
Nonsense! if there are parents who push this on their kids then certainly there are doctors who push it too. All of the participants are ready, willing and able to permanently disfigure that child victim.
I met a doctor who did trans surgery. This was your stereotypical crazy leftie "woke" person. I met him through my cousin, who is gay, and hangs with that kind of crowd. But ya, the person was insane and advocating for a lot of disgusting things. It even once centered on the conversation that the age of consent for sex with an adult should be dropped to 12.
So ya, this disgusting human filth is a doctor that both advocates and performs transgender surgery, and is widely praised by his circle of friends and the media, as almost being a hero among these people. It's like they want to reinforce and reward disgusting people.
God bless this woman. The fact that doctors would mutilate a child like this is so filthy and abominable it literally makes me angry. But this is what happens when you allow degenerate reprobates to do whatever they want with no pushback. First it was just let the faggots be faggots. Then it was let the faggots parade down the streets. Now its let these filthy animals indoctrinate your kids and prey on them and molest them, and brainwash them into thinking they can somehow change their gender.
Same thing happened with abortion. If you allow any sinful and evil behavior to happen, it will only progress further down the rabbit hole until there is nowhere else to go with it. You allow abortion for any reason, and it ends up coming to the point where you can abort a baby right up until birth, and soon it will be even AFTER they are born.
The so-called "Slippery Slope fallacy" is itself the argumentative fallacy. It's utterly ignorant to think that a group that literally calls themselves Progressives wouldn't progress from one degeneracy to the next every time you give them an inch.
You are the only person I've seen that realizes this. Slippery slope fallacy stops at "Will happen." It is not a counter to "could happen" or even "Is likely to happen."
But internet understanding of the fallacies is almost as bad as if people didn't know them at all. No one uses any of them correctly and no one that I've witnessed actually understands logic.
I guess... I see too many ideas get stretched, pushed, and\or expanded too frequently to believe slippery slope is a fallacy. I usually assume its going to happen especially when acquiring power is involved
It's a fallacy in the sense that there are behaviors in human nature that create negative consequences, and the fallacy in the slippery slope argument is that those negative consequences will not eventually be self correcting.
The problem here is that we stopped teaching values. Abstinence and values could easily be applied to gay relationships as they are hetero. It has been my lifetime experience that as gay has become normalized, the value of monogamy let's say, has become easier to adopt.
IOW, truck stop sex and bath houses become less appealing as you can find a same sex person and have a societally normal monogamous relationship. It doesn't mean promiscuity or deviancy goes completely away, but the need to engage in risky behavior is reduced, and the value of good behavior brought back into play.
Behaviors are naturally good or bad due to human nature being immutable, we just need the courage to promote the good ones in any framework. Like mental illness cannot be addressed with surgery, just as loneliness cannot be addressed with truck stop gay sex.
I am not gay btw, and never had truck stop sex. It's just the best example that springs to mind. :)
Yes. Smoking pot is a very good example of it. Most potheads I knew in college stopped at some point. But for those with addictive personalities... They didn't graduate and I lost track of them. I can only guess at where they are now, but my best guess would be that they slid down a slippery slope. Yes, I went to a very liberal school and no, I'd never be able to stand it today. I'm sure it's much worse.
If I chose to identify as Batman and wore the fucking suit to work every day, no one would question my firing. How the fuck we let trannies get away with demanding we play along with their delusion will never make sense to me.
It's because the left has intentionally combined several distinct phenomena into a single category to intentionally confuse discussion and debate.
First, a tiny fraction of people are actually born "intersexed," as in they have some combination of genetics or sexual organs which make them not strictly male or female. These people legitimately must choose whether to live as a man or as a woman.
Then, there are people with a real mental illness which makes them think they are in the wrong body.
Finally, there are teenage loser weirdos who think that because they're not the epitome of masculinity or femininity, they must be a non-binary pansexual lizardkin.
By labeling all of these as just "trans", they get to constantly move the goalposts in arguments about trans rights. If you don't want to hire the non-binary lizardkin, it's because you hate intersexed people.
Correct. That is what sin is, what human nature is. That is why we have The Bible. It is a guide to creating a successful and flourishing nation. Christ is the personification of Logos, reason. When you look at myths from other religions, most notably monotheistic ones, and compare them to paganism and atheism, it is obvious why only 1 religion has been so successful in the West that has resulted in the founding of so many great nations. Paganism suggests that sins and emotions are due to the pantheon of gods, represented by the planets or unseen forces.
Judaism and monotheism acknowledged original sin and the worship of one God, a God of logic and reason above all else. Christianity took it even further to recognize empathy and dispose of the mistaken ideas of an earthly reward in favor of a divine one. It provides purpose, rejects wickedness and sin, and establishes that ANYBODY is capable of achieving because we are all created with equal rights in the image of God. Even in the times of Christian monarchy, in the Merovingian and Carolingian eras, the king was never treated as divine like the pharaohs, but rather divinely chosen due to the circumstance of birthright- something only God could control. What is most important for a society is to have concrete moral virtues and to worship God, otherwise we destroy ourselves. God is the personification of reason and our collective conscience, worship of him will always result in the common good. The problem is that this idea has been coopted by corrupt earthly organizations.
We are truly witnessing the last days. This is a type of evil never seen on this earth. I wish somewhere out there was a sanctuary this grandma could go to that was safe.
No. We've seen this exact perversion and depravity before, started by the SAME people. What was the The Weimar Republic? What books did the German's burn?
The "swing-back" was a bitch. It's important to study history, so we don't repeat it.
Clean up our ethics. Let's weed out the Republicans who are like: "Gosh, man, like, 5 justices said that the amendment to free the slaves really means men gotta marry men, and it's no point resisting no more. Like, like, they 5-4 in the court, so we gotta give up. If we don't, like, Twitter might block us."
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Overturn Obergefell.
A man is a man, even if he can look convincingly as a girl.
A woman is a woman, even if she can look convincingly as a boy.
Its not kidnapping if you are protecting human life. In some states you can even use lethal force to protect someone from bodily harm. I'm not saying go shoot up a hospital. What I'm saying is that some point, you snap, and morally you have to do something regardless of what happens to you. This country literally dies for people like this every day and if we don't make a stand for other people there won't be anybody left to do it for us. Just imagine the emotional state of that grandmother. The jury would have a hard time reconciling this fact with the law.
I'm rooting for granny, all day and night. Trans surgery for children is 100% fucking nuts. I just worry that parts of our idiot society have so bought into this bullshit that they will make her life hell for doing what every sane granny should do for their endangered grandchild.
Isn't it interesting how it's ALWAYS male to female? I have a nephew this happened to. His mother convinced him he was a girl at a very young age and now I'm supposed to call him my niece.
They will do anything to end family trees, especially when they come from conservative families.
I feel for this woman. I couldn’t imagine being in her shoes. These nut jobs are about to let a twelve year old castrate himself and be left with a gaping festering wound that will reek of feces.
What sane person wouldn’t want to prevent this from happening to their grandchild? And these psychopaths are claiming SHE is endangering the child!
It’s just pure craziness. I can’t even fucking comprehend this lunacy. I’d most likely go off the deep end if I were put in a situation like this.
This garbage needs to stop. What fucking 12 year old is responsible enough to make a decision like this? If a grown adult wants to mutilate themselves then fine, fucking mutilate yourself and live with the consequences. But this shit is disgusting, fucking CHILDREN.
Every commie piece of filth that thinks this crap is okay needs put in an asylum.
I am in no way endorsing violence but it's my opinion that doctors who perform that kind of surgery on a child should be covered in honey and burried in anthills.
I don’t normally condone violence either. I would only ever kill someone who endangers me or my family. Clearly the authorities are endangering her family
You should. Or this shit will continue. Violence is always the answer when it comes to making things right. This evil must be stopped by any means necessary. Including stacking bodies high and deep.
So heart breaking to imagine what that grandmother must be going through. Just wait until the liberals stop caring about transgendered people (like they do all the groups they initially pretend to support) and all these people are left lost to figure out what they’ve done to their life.
They're not gonna figute out shit, coz they're gonna eat lead. They kill themselves when they realize the gaping wound in their crotch wont make them a woman. The parents should be executed
She said her mother brought the 12-year-old to Ochsner's ER on the recommendation of the child's neurologist.
"She's just being sad lately and just has a couple of depression problems and that's the reason we brought her in," Miller said.
Miller said hospital staff wanted to send her daughter to a mental health facility for observation.
This happened 6 months ago and there are no sources mentioning transgender bullshit. Pedes, you need to step up your research or we look as stupid as leftist scum.
There isn't one that I could find. This story was posted about a ago with a similar title about trans surgery but the attached article didn't mention it.
She said her mother brought the 12-year-old to Ochsner's ER on the recommendation of the child's neurologist. "She's just being sad lately and just has a couple of depression problems and that's the reason we brought her in," Miller said. Miller said hospital staff wanted to send her daughter to a mental health facility for observation.
If they're at the point of surgery, then they've probably already subjected this poor kid to puberty blockers, meaning he'll likely never 'develop' properly, might be incapable of having kids, and even if they go through with the surgery, will have ... Little to work with, if you know what I mean.
Basically, they've already permanent damaged this kids life. No matter what happens at this point. Not even getting into the psychological damage.
I don’t think they’ve done that much harm at twelve. If he was 16 that would be a different story but twelve is just the beginnings of puberty so not much to block yet.
Though it doesn't mention why she was in the hospital. So your concern is valid. Best I could find is information that Ochsner Hospital does do trans surgery and is very supportive of it all: https://blog.ochsner.org/articles/transgender-patients.
Rescuing the child FROM a horrific mutilation is "CHILD ENDANGERMENT"?
The left is beyond insane. At least insane people sometimes have brief moments of lucidity where the sky is blue, water is wet, and mutilating children's sex organs is kinda dangerous to them.
Give her a medal. Grand mother of the year.
We should start a fund to pay for her future legal bills. This woman is an inspiration. "Walk towards the fire.."
Time to fight back
Sadly it looks like they were stopped, but if anyone else decides to do the same it's not enough to lock your kid in a basement. You need to deprogram them. I'm not sure what the best method is, but I'm sure it involves discussing the issue in an accepting and loving way.
It's OK to act masculine or feminine regardless of sex. They don't need other people to force them into gender norms. They can love and be in a relationship with who they please. They can't force others to accept them, and just changing their body won't make their pain go away. One must love themselves before expecting anyone else to.
Watch videos together like this interview with Dr. Debra Soh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9NeQTkJjIs Read the comments. There are several people who may have gone through the same emotional roller-coaster as your son or daughter.
Show them the horror stories and results of "reassignment surgery" (only a google search away - lots of them on 4chan) Even if they aren't doing the full surgery yet, taking hormone blockers at such a young age will irrevocably damage their body. (some stories mentioned in those comments above) Everything about it is "experimental". It isn't a routine, commonly accepted procedure.
Point out logical flaws in their thinking. The kinds of things talked about here regularly when we make fun of these weirdos. You'll need to ask questions and understand the child to know how to respond, but they need to know that their biological sex will never change. If you surgically grafted a trunk on, you wouldn't become an elephant would you?
Let them know about the detrans movement. There are discussion forums out there like "/r/detrans/" on reddit. That forum specifically is very controlled, like all of reddit, so it's very pro-LGBT. I don't know the best place so this is something you'll want to review ahead of time, but it should help to know there are other people out there who feel the way they do but DON'T need to transition, or did and want to go back. (it's not like removing a tattoo...)
Possibly explain to them the origin of the trans movement, reassignment surgery, and it's connections to pedophilia.
Of course all this depends on how much time you have with them, and what is age appropriate. (it's ridiculous that this has to be pointed out, yet the kid can go through with such a procedure)
OP is FAKE. There's more than enough REAL stuff to post about without polluting this site with supermarket-tabloid Fakery.
She went to hospital for treatment of Depression. Nothing to do with "transgender surgery"
[https://www.wwltv.com/mobile/article/news/local/jefferson/mom-arrested-grandmother-remains-in-jail-after-child-abducted-from-hospital-at-gunpoint/289-94014a39-790c-4832-8d15-7a538723be1c]
She said her mother brought the 12-year-old to Ochsner's ER on the recommendation of the child's neurologist.
"She's just being sad lately and just has a couple of depression problems and that's the reason we brought her in," Miller said.
Miller said hospital staff wanted to send her daughter to a mental health facility for observation.
Her daughter has autism and a severe seizure disorder.
She feared being separated from her family could be detrimental to her child's health.
"Anytime we're away from her she has a seizure, stressed induced seizures," Miller said.
Evelyn Miller is now facing some pretty serious charges including aggravated assault with a firearm and simple kidnapping.
That's great news.
It's still a real issue people with kids need to be prepared for.
Yep.
Thanks for the heads up, pede. The post has been removed. We'll keep an eye out for this one in the future.
Hey, thank you.
And not only that, this is the second or third time this article and fake headline have been near the top with a shit ton of upvotes.
What the fuck. How have mods allowed this fake news to grow?
Yeah I think we sometimes get people coming here to intentionally salt thedonald with bullshit.
We have others who aren't doing it on purpose, but they just are way too eager to believe any shit they see without checking it out first.
I know this sounds harsh but I'm amazed at how many people of that generation are completely non-functioning human beings.
https://seanald.ca/john-howards-tone-deafness-in-black-like-me/
I have heard that people have helped understand the illogicality of progressive-ism after reading this. There's a human spirit that we are all created equal in. Making debates about things unrelated are how they win. As Max Weber coined, people need to gain verhesten to understand another person's conception fully
You have heard of Tim Ballard, correct?
All for this, but where do we take them? Canada? Ha!
lulz
Set it up Jimmy, and give us the link ASAP.
do it!
God bless this woman, and fuck you to the hospital willing to do this shit!
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. Any Doctor who mutilates children's genitals, is therefore subject to genital mutilation. The nice house, the cars, all that money being made off this insanity, matters very little if they're permanently maimed. Pay attention to that possibility Medical Professionals.
Eye for an Eye. This has long, long, long been the way.
It's funny how children trans surgeries suddenly became ok, yet we still oppose girl circumcision in Nigeria.
Gay marriage might have been a mistake
Oh it was sir. I once supported it, now I have done a complete 180.
What you do in the privacy of your own home is your business. That is where the line should have been draw. Don't ask don't tell. Perfect policy.
Homosexuals are not bad people, but they are deviants, deviancy should not be supported nor promoted. They could make any private contract they wanted, but to give them legal status as married has hurt our society.
Every compromise with the left has been a mistake.
Slavery is a leftist concept. They're still at it on various ways. Notably industrialized prisons. Just look at their VP candidate.
Slavery is what we get when commies take over and everything is 'equal.'
Q: How would you like it prepared Sir? A: Spicy Please.
Kill those doctors. Fucking behead them.
At some point, some family member will. Maybe even some of the victims of these tragedies when they grow up. Many will suicide. It's a foregone conclusion that statically, some will go the other route and turn the rage in the other direction, with the outcome being targeted murder.
More effective way to stop this is to pay a visit to the guys with scalpel.
GTFO, they were fixing to butcher a minor's genitals for "muh feelings and stuff". If you want your franks and beans rearranged when you turn 18 so be it, this should in no way be allowed on minors.
Lots of those over 18 regret it, too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/
They all do
They regret if they get it and if they don't, which is why they have the 40%+ suicide rate.
These people need psychological help, not hormones.
I'm surprised that subreddit's still allowed.
Looks like they were forced to change rules recently to water it down.
I'm surprised that sub isn't banned.
I dunno about even then. Granted I'm in the single most shittiest state, but literally everything to do with adulting here requires age 21.
Everything to do with vices that is. You can invest, buy a home, get married, sign up to go to war and all that, but you can't buy a beer or smokes or a gun.
Wait a tick. I hadn't even thought about that. You can enlist in the military ... but can't buy a gun on your own? God this state has gone full retard.
There are probably exceptions but meh. Just put everything back to age 18 if you're gonna do something like this.
It's medical barbarism. Shouldn't ever be allowed by a practicing doctor. Of course if they really want to cut themselves up or fly to Sweden to have it done, they'll be able to do that once they're an adult.
Exactly. once they are in fact an adult of sound mind
I could definitely agree to that on an in general basis. Some exceptions but they don't disprove the rule.
I agree 100% with Rooster.
Heroes are hard to find.
We Salute This Woman!
If it saves their life, then yes.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-man-released-jail-siege-save-son-life-article-1.2474678
Do I support pointing a gun at the people who waste time and money for choreographed tiktok dances, have no issues with physically and chemically altering minors for woke points, and want to tell me I have to take a vaccine and wear a mask? Jesus tittyfucking, I thought you'd never ask!
They got Bill Gates on video saying "you don't have a choice" when asked about vaccines. They really do want to do it folks. Fuck all that noise.
I don't see this as any different then saving someone from being euthanized. Given the transgender suicide rate is 50%, that is basically what is happening here.
We support logic, liberty and equality under law (not outcome). This shit with elective gender surgery should not even be a discussion point for ANYONE that is under 18. Why? Choices have consequences, and this is a choice that forces terrible consequences not realized by children, liberal adults, or mentally ill. This kid might be asking for it, I don't care-not ready to make this decision at this age. Adults should know better than to enable it.
Hope they make it to a non extradition country, or annihilate anyone attempting to carry out this barbaric act in their path.
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Maybe that’s the “Very important person” Trump plans on pardoning today.
That'd be AWESOME
At least she's trying to make up for her own child rearing failures.
HOW IS THIS LEGAL to do to a 12 year old???? Transgender surgery at 12?!?
Brainwashed kid, manipulative attention seeking mother and liberal nutcase doctors trying to get paid while also publishing "woke" papers for funding.
I think it’s doctors too afraid to resist the dogma at the risk of losing their jobs.
The "doctors" who perform this type of surgery are specifically trained for it, they are messed up to begin with and go along with it gleefully.
Doctors arent taught how to do transgender surgery. It's more like a human experiment.
Indeed, most of these type of doctors are sociopaths.
Like when they used to perform lobotomy on kids. Monsters.
people need to wake up to the idea that many doctors are sociopaths (why they attained a position of esteem to begin with)
And now that most insurance companies cover gender reassignment surgery they can charge big money for the procedure.
They're sickos
Nonsense! if there are parents who push this on their kids then certainly there are doctors who push it too. All of the participants are ready, willing and able to permanently disfigure that child victim.
I met a doctor who did trans surgery. This was your stereotypical crazy leftie "woke" person. I met him through my cousin, who is gay, and hangs with that kind of crowd. But ya, the person was insane and advocating for a lot of disgusting things. It even once centered on the conversation that the age of consent for sex with an adult should be dropped to 12.
So ya, this disgusting human filth is a doctor that both advocates and performs transgender surgery, and is widely praised by his circle of friends and the media, as almost being a hero among these people. It's like they want to reinforce and reward disgusting people.
If your job entails mutilating children's genitals, maybe it's okay to lose that job.
The mother was arrested as an accessory. I dont know who did it. Im guessing the father signed off
No shit, i would have never thought they could do that. Fucking sick.
Agree. Sickos
Setting precedence.
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Your favorite President
MAGA
The doctors and hospitals should be brought up on ethical charges!
she saved her grandchild from the endangerment she was in
"Found un-harmed".
God bless this woman. The fact that doctors would mutilate a child like this is so filthy and abominable it literally makes me angry. But this is what happens when you allow degenerate reprobates to do whatever they want with no pushback. First it was just let the faggots be faggots. Then it was let the faggots parade down the streets. Now its let these filthy animals indoctrinate your kids and prey on them and molest them, and brainwash them into thinking they can somehow change their gender.
Same thing happened with abortion. If you allow any sinful and evil behavior to happen, it will only progress further down the rabbit hole until there is nowhere else to go with it. You allow abortion for any reason, and it ends up coming to the point where you can abort a baby right up until birth, and soon it will be even AFTER they are born.
The so-called "Slippery Slope fallacy" is itself the argumentative fallacy. It's utterly ignorant to think that a group that literally calls themselves Progressives wouldn't progress from one degeneracy to the next every time you give them an inch.
You are the only person I've seen that realizes this. Slippery slope fallacy stops at "Will happen." It is not a counter to "could happen" or even "Is likely to happen." But internet understanding of the fallacies is almost as bad as if people didn't know them at all. No one uses any of them correctly and no one that I've witnessed actually understands logic.
Ive never understood why its a logical fallacy. No one that stands by it could explain it to me either. All the other fallacies make sense
I guess... I see too many ideas get stretched, pushed, and\or expanded too frequently to believe slippery slope is a fallacy. I usually assume its going to happen especially when acquiring power is involved
It's a fallacy in the sense that there are behaviors in human nature that create negative consequences, and the fallacy in the slippery slope argument is that those negative consequences will not eventually be self correcting.
The problem here is that we stopped teaching values. Abstinence and values could easily be applied to gay relationships as they are hetero. It has been my lifetime experience that as gay has become normalized, the value of monogamy let's say, has become easier to adopt.
IOW, truck stop sex and bath houses become less appealing as you can find a same sex person and have a societally normal monogamous relationship. It doesn't mean promiscuity or deviancy goes completely away, but the need to engage in risky behavior is reduced, and the value of good behavior brought back into play.
Behaviors are naturally good or bad due to human nature being immutable, we just need the courage to promote the good ones in any framework. Like mental illness cannot be addressed with surgery, just as loneliness cannot be addressed with truck stop gay sex.
I am not gay btw, and never had truck stop sex. It's just the best example that springs to mind. :)
Yes. Smoking pot is a very good example of it. Most potheads I knew in college stopped at some point. But for those with addictive personalities... They didn't graduate and I lost track of them. I can only guess at where they are now, but my best guess would be that they slid down a slippery slope. Yes, I went to a very liberal school and no, I'd never be able to stand it today. I'm sure it's much worse.
If I chose to identify as Batman and wore the fucking suit to work every day, no one would question my firing. How the fuck we let trannies get away with demanding we play along with their delusion will never make sense to me.
It's not supposed to make sense
Bake the cake, bigot.
Don't give them any ideas. They are always looking for self delusions to turn into human rights.
But what if I want to be Batman? Aside from having no parents it all sounds pretty cool.
It's because the left has intentionally combined several distinct phenomena into a single category to intentionally confuse discussion and debate.
First, a tiny fraction of people are actually born "intersexed," as in they have some combination of genetics or sexual organs which make them not strictly male or female. These people legitimately must choose whether to live as a man or as a woman.
Then, there are people with a real mental illness which makes them think they are in the wrong body.
Finally, there are teenage loser weirdos who think that because they're not the epitome of masculinity or femininity, they must be a non-binary pansexual lizardkin.
By labeling all of these as just "trans", they get to constantly move the goalposts in arguments about trans rights. If you don't want to hire the non-binary lizardkin, it's because you hate intersexed people.
Brilliant comment!
Correct. That is what sin is, what human nature is. That is why we have The Bible. It is a guide to creating a successful and flourishing nation. Christ is the personification of Logos, reason. When you look at myths from other religions, most notably monotheistic ones, and compare them to paganism and atheism, it is obvious why only 1 religion has been so successful in the West that has resulted in the founding of so many great nations. Paganism suggests that sins and emotions are due to the pantheon of gods, represented by the planets or unseen forces.
Judaism and monotheism acknowledged original sin and the worship of one God, a God of logic and reason above all else. Christianity took it even further to recognize empathy and dispose of the mistaken ideas of an earthly reward in favor of a divine one. It provides purpose, rejects wickedness and sin, and establishes that ANYBODY is capable of achieving because we are all created with equal rights in the image of God. Even in the times of Christian monarchy, in the Merovingian and Carolingian eras, the king was never treated as divine like the pharaohs, but rather divinely chosen due to the circumstance of birthright- something only God could control. What is most important for a society is to have concrete moral virtues and to worship God, otherwise we destroy ourselves. God is the personification of reason and our collective conscience, worship of him will always result in the common good. The problem is that this idea has been coopted by corrupt earthly organizations.
Based AF.
We are truly witnessing the last days. This is a type of evil never seen on this earth. I wish somewhere out there was a sanctuary this grandma could go to that was safe.
No. We've seen this exact perversion and depravity before, started by the SAME people. What was the The Weimar Republic? What books did the German's burn?
The "swing-back" was a bitch. It's important to study history, so we don't repeat it.
MAGA 2020!
And then one day, for no reason at all...
Clean up our ethics. Let's weed out the Republicans who are like: "Gosh, man, like, 5 justices said that the amendment to free the slaves really means men gotta marry men, and it's no point resisting no more. Like, like, they 5-4 in the court, so we gotta give up. If we don't, like, Twitter might block us."
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Overturn Obergefell.
A man is a man, even if he can look convincingly as a girl.
A woman is a woman, even if she can look convincingly as a boy.
Stating the truth is not bigotry.
They misspelled rescued.
This actually looks fake.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/grandmother-charged-after-snatching-12-year-old-granddaughter-hospital-gunpoint-police-say/WFIL3I2GMNDPTNGU7N6R2S5EKA/
Thank you!
Thanks for source. Could still be MSM spin. It looks like just how they would frame it if the above original post was true.
How dare they cut up a twelve year old?
Stealth Islam
What about male genital mutilation?
Downvoting this wont bring your foreskin back folks
That's an important part of the Judeo-Christian Values that America was founded on. /s
The Bible literally says if you get circumcised that Christ profits you nothing.
You mean Jewish.
you missed the /s lol
Seven Jews disliked this post. ^
Circumcision is not make genital mutilation.
Would you mind explaining? Cutting off parts of your penis for no reason at all is 100% mutilation.
Then what is it, Rabbi Sholomo Shekelstein?
She's a hero, and they'll toss her in prison forever for it.
Good luck finding a jury of her peers that ALL believe in this bullshit. Even liberals are put off by the trans movement.
Kidnapping at gunpoint is kidnapping at gunpoint, I'm afraid.
They'll find a way to fuck her life up.
I pray there will be at least one juror who knows about this and uses it in this case.
Its not kidnapping if you are protecting human life. In some states you can even use lethal force to protect someone from bodily harm. I'm not saying go shoot up a hospital. What I'm saying is that some point, you snap, and morally you have to do something regardless of what happens to you. This country literally dies for people like this every day and if we don't make a stand for other people there won't be anybody left to do it for us. Just imagine the emotional state of that grandmother. The jury would have a hard time reconciling this fact with the law.
I'm rooting for granny, all day and night. Trans surgery for children is 100% fucking nuts. I just worry that parts of our idiot society have so bought into this bullshit that they will make her life hell for doing what every sane granny should do for their endangered grandchild.
Yep. I would not convict her.
Grandmother of the year. A regular John Q
I think it's a boy. She loves her grandson. The media refers to the person as their preferred pronoun.
This. 100% a boy. Look at the picture. It's a boy. And his name is probably Andrew.
Isn't it interesting how it's ALWAYS male to female? I have a nephew this happened to. His mother convinced him he was a girl at a very young age and now I'm supposed to call him my niece.
They will do anything to end family trees, especially when they come from conservative families.
Do the world a favor. Make that bitchs death look like an accident.
I feel for this woman. I couldn’t imagine being in her shoes. These nut jobs are about to let a twelve year old castrate himself and be left with a gaping festering wound that will reek of feces.
What sane person wouldn’t want to prevent this from happening to their grandchild? And these psychopaths are claiming SHE is endangering the child!
It’s just pure craziness. I can’t even fucking comprehend this lunacy. I’d most likely go off the deep end if I were put in a situation like this.
This garbage needs to stop. What fucking 12 year old is responsible enough to make a decision like this? If a grown adult wants to mutilate themselves then fine, fucking mutilate yourself and live with the consequences. But this shit is disgusting, fucking CHILDREN.
Every commie piece of filth that thinks this crap is okay needs put in an asylum.
Grandma stops child abuse.
An 18 year old is too young to own a gun according to a Democrat but a 12 year old can decide their gender and mutilate their own organs.
What f’d up doctor would do this surgery
I am in no way endorsing violence but it's my opinion that doctors who perform that kind of surgery on a child should be covered in honey and burried in anthills.
I don’t normally condone violence either. I would only ever kill someone who endangers me or my family. Clearly the authorities are endangering her family
You should. Or this shit will continue. Violence is always the answer when it comes to making things right. This evil must be stopped by any means necessary. Including stacking bodies high and deep.
Dr. Goldstein
So heart breaking to imagine what that grandmother must be going through. Just wait until the liberals stop caring about transgendered people (like they do all the groups they initially pretend to support) and all these people are left lost to figure out what they’ve done to their life.
They're not gonna figute out shit, coz they're gonna eat lead. They kill themselves when they realize the gaping wound in their crotch wont make them a woman. The parents should be executed
Yeah this is the most sick type of child abuses one can imagine. The judge should be removed also.
Like climbing trees?
Time to cut off your breasts
I'm seeing multiple stories about this woman and child, but nothing related to transgender surgery.
https://www.wwltv.com/mobile/article/news/local/jefferson/mom-arrested-grandmother-remains-in-jail-after-child-abducted-from-hospital-at-gunpoint/289-94014a39-790c-4832-8d15-7a538723be1c
From the article:
This happened 6 months ago and there are no sources mentioning transgender bullshit. Pedes, you need to step up your research or we look as stupid as leftist scum.
who cares
I'm confused. If it was child endangerment at the hospital why are they saying the grandmother rescuing the child is putting the child in danger?
Because they put a comma between the honks.
Heroic.
Arrest the parents.
Outlaw this procedure.
Arrest offending physicians.
Change Arrest to Draw and Quarter.
Level 10 Hero Alert more like it
Thank goodness
Fake News, the grand mother prevented Level 2 child endangerment.
Based Maamawwww
There isn't one that I could find. This story was posted about a ago with a similar title about trans surgery but the attached article didn't mention it.
Source info: https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/grandmother-charged-after-snatching-12-year-old-granddaughter-hospital-gunpoint-police-say/WFIL3I2GMNDPTNGU7N6R2S5EKA/
Badass grandma
Wow
https://www.wwltv.com/mobile/article/news/local/jefferson/mom-arrested-grandmother-remains-in-jail-after-child-abducted-from-hospital-at-gunpoint/289-94014a39-790c-4832-8d15-7a538723be1c
This doesn’t appear to be an accurate story.
From the article:
It's also from February. People need to be a little less credulous here.
So that "Endangerment Alert" is for the hospital, right? Don't go to this hospital because it will put children at risk....
If they're at the point of surgery, then they've probably already subjected this poor kid to puberty blockers, meaning he'll likely never 'develop' properly, might be incapable of having kids, and even if they go through with the surgery, will have ... Little to work with, if you know what I mean.
Basically, they've already permanent damaged this kids life. No matter what happens at this point. Not even getting into the psychological damage.
I don’t think they’ve done that much harm at twelve. If he was 16 that would be a different story but twelve is just the beginnings of puberty so not much to block yet.
https://www.wdsu.com/article/lsp-jpso-looking-for-girl-12-taken-from-ochsner-hospital-at-gunpoint-by-grandmother/30939627
So she already got caught. Sigh.
Ugh, if I wanted fake news, I would watch CNN. Stop upvoting this stuff if it can't be verified.
Deport this fake new bullshit
https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson/mom-arrested-grandmother-remains-in-jail-after-child-abducted-from-hospital-at-gunpoint/289-94014a39-790c-4832-8d15-7a538723be1c
You're right - OP's post is FAKE.
She said her mother brought the 12-year-old to Ochsner's ER on the recommendation of the child's neurologist.
"She's just being sad lately and just has a couple of depression problems and that's the reason we brought her in," Miller said.
Miller said hospital staff wanted to send her daughter to a mental health facility for observation.
Her daughter has autism and a severe seizure disorder.
She feared being separated from her family could be detrimental to her child's health.
"Anytime we're away from her she has a seizure, stressed induced seizures," Miller said.
Yeah this is fake news. There is no mention anywhere of the grandchild going in for trans surgery. OP can you show evidence of your claim?
Here's an article: https://www.katc.com/news/covering-louisiana/lsp-12-year-old-girl-abducted-at-gunpoint-by-grandmother-from-jefferson-parish-hospital
Though it doesn't mention why she was in the hospital. So your concern is valid. Best I could find is information that Ochsner Hospital does do trans surgery and is very supportive of it all: https://blog.ochsner.org/articles/transgender-patients.
When I was 12 I wasn’t allowed to pick what I wanted for dinner.
If my wife and I were dead, I would hope my mother would be based as fuck enough to do this for my kids.
The hero we deserve
Hero grandmother saves granddaughter from being butchered.
Wanted: Evelyn Miller... at a party in her honor, celebrating her acts of bravery.
If someone was trying to do unneccesary surgery on one of my kids, I'd like to think I'd have the guts to do the same thing.
How is this even legal for someone so young to get this type of surgery?
... I mean ... it's not rocket science someone this young hasn't formed a fully clear functioning mature mental state yet ...
Rescuing the child FROM a horrific mutilation is "CHILD ENDANGERMENT"?
The left is beyond insane. At least insane people sometimes have brief moments of lucidity where the sky is blue, water is wet, and mutilating children's sex organs is kinda dangerous to them.
We The People: We the jury find the defendant: NOT GUILTY.
liberal judge: BUT IT'S ON VIDEO!!!!
Why so serious?