That ain’t true. Not being able to vote and not being able to look at someone the wrong way lest you get beaten to a bloody pulp are two different things. A whole lot of people couldn’t vote before the 20th century.
Wemon were force to have kids, couldn't get devorces, couldn't work, couldn't wear certain clothes, couldnt own buisness, couldn't see a doctor on her own accord, and basically, couldn't exsist without a man and couldn't do anything without a man's concent.
But!
I'm not complaining. We're free now. I'm mostly joking.
Edit: I'm not downplaying black suffering either. I'm saying civil rights laws and racial equality laws were passed before wemon rights laws.
Wemon were treated like property for a long time too.
Forced to have kids? You mean forced to be responsible for something they brought into this world? Couldn’t work? They could, so that isn’t true. Couldn’t see a doctor on their own? What evidence do you have of that? Couldn’t wear certain clothes? Neither could anyone else back in those days. They had different clothes for the time of day for a reason.
And even after all of that it was hard to prosecute women for crimes, they didn’t have to sign up for the draft, they along with children got to be saved first in the event of a disaster. Custody almost always went to women. . .
Meanwhile during all those times black men were getting hanged for stupid crap and a whole town of black people was raided because nearby people were jealous. This happened in Tulsa btw. Not the Deep South.
I’m not down with the oppression olympics, but what you said isn’t true. You’re talking about a time we’re everyone was messed up. Where no one could do exactly what they wanted. But it was also a time where having a black kid as a lead character in a movie was grounds for censorship. Just look at the history of Our Gang.
They were legally forced to bare kids. You couldn't deny your husband sex or the right to procreation. You couldnt buy contraceptives wothout a man either.
Your husband controlled your life.
Iv heard stories of wemon trying to wear pants and being treated like "witches"
Their were also dress codes placed on wemon in more modern times. (20s era)
I mean, wemon were basically property up till a certain point in history.
A husband could drag you around, rape and beat you. Keep you at home barefoot and pregnant, legally, for a good long time.
Up till the 30s I believe.
I'm not saying it was a common occurrence, just that it did happen and it was legal.
I get the draft thing and I wholly agree that, even now, men hold the heavier burdens of society on their backs.
I'm not here for a oppression olympics either.
It was bad wording to say "treated worse," and I apologize.
I just meant, at one, small point in history, after civil rights. Wemon didn't have 100% equall rights as a man. They had to have a separate movment.
That it would be a good tactic to bring it up simply to cause chaos in the Opression Olympics the left is having.
This is not true at all. In terms of having kids, certainly the kinds of birth control we have today had not been invented, but there were still methods of preventing pregnancy - how do you think prostitutes kept themselves from being pregnant all the time? They used some kind of "cleaning" method with a sponge and vinegar or some such thing. There were also various herbs one could purchase on the sly from the local "wise women" that might induce abortion, plus back-ally abortions - some even done by husbands. Women have always had ways of preventing pregnancy or killing their own babies.
Divorce was more difficult for both men and women, it couldn't be done on a whim. But if you read books, it was still possible (for those with financial means) to simply abandon their spouse and live elsewhere with their lover, which might induce the spouse to agree to divorce.
Poor and lower class women have always had to work, as you should know - who do you think housemaids, laundry women, housekeepers, dressmakers were? Women (and children) even worked in coal mines, plus factories of course. There were jobs that either barred women, or they couldn't easily access because they were seldom educated for it, but that also applied to most poor men too. They could also own businesses - the most common were probably dressmaking/milliner's shops, or boarding houses.
Depending on where she lived, there were things a woman couldn't do, or couldn't easily have access to, but these history myths are a gross exaggeration. There is a strange tendency with feminists to keep parroting these myths about downtrodden, enslaved women in comparison to privileged men. They're comparing myths about women to the top ranks of men - the vast majority of men didn't have choices in education or jobs, the majority of them had dangerous low-paying jobs, and no money for education to get a better one, and weren't "in charge" of anyone, just had a supervisor yelling at them for their 8 or 10 or 12 hour shift.
It's not a bad thing to do, it doesn't hurt and it probably should have been done. People are just disappointed because a pardon for Assange, Flynn or Snowden would have been much more impactful to anything relevant to today
I think it's a good move. Wemon were more opressed than black men at one point.
Lol not that I care, but steer the victimhood lenses this way. Throw a wrench in their games.
That ain’t true. Not being able to vote and not being able to look at someone the wrong way lest you get beaten to a bloody pulp are two different things. A whole lot of people couldn’t vote before the 20th century.
I'm fairly sure we can all still get beaten to a bloody pulp for looking at someone the wrong way.
Excuse me. I mean looking at the wrong person at all.
Yeah I figured that much, that also still happens. Well, with different demographics these days, but still.
Wemon were force to have kids, couldn't get devorces, couldn't work, couldn't wear certain clothes, couldnt own buisness, couldn't see a doctor on her own accord, and basically, couldn't exsist without a man and couldn't do anything without a man's concent.
But!
I'm not complaining. We're free now. I'm mostly joking.
Edit: I'm not downplaying black suffering either. I'm saying civil rights laws and racial equality laws were passed before wemon rights laws.
Wemon were treated like property for a long time too.
Forced to have kids? You mean forced to be responsible for something they brought into this world? Couldn’t work? They could, so that isn’t true. Couldn’t see a doctor on their own? What evidence do you have of that? Couldn’t wear certain clothes? Neither could anyone else back in those days. They had different clothes for the time of day for a reason.
And even after all of that it was hard to prosecute women for crimes, they didn’t have to sign up for the draft, they along with children got to be saved first in the event of a disaster. Custody almost always went to women. . .
Meanwhile during all those times black men were getting hanged for stupid crap and a whole town of black people was raided because nearby people were jealous. This happened in Tulsa btw. Not the Deep South.
I’m not down with the oppression olympics, but what you said isn’t true. You’re talking about a time we’re everyone was messed up. Where no one could do exactly what they wanted. But it was also a time where having a black kid as a lead character in a movie was grounds for censorship. Just look at the history of Our Gang.
They were legally forced to bare kids. You couldn't deny your husband sex or the right to procreation. You couldnt buy contraceptives wothout a man either.
Your husband controlled your life.
Iv heard stories of wemon trying to wear pants and being treated like "witches"
Their were also dress codes placed on wemon in more modern times. (20s era)
I mean, wemon were basically property up till a certain point in history.
A husband could drag you around, rape and beat you. Keep you at home barefoot and pregnant, legally, for a good long time.
Up till the 30s I believe.
I'm not saying it was a common occurrence, just that it did happen and it was legal.
I get the draft thing and I wholly agree that, even now, men hold the heavier burdens of society on their backs.
I'm not here for a oppression olympics either.
It was bad wording to say "treated worse," and I apologize.
I just meant, at one, small point in history, after civil rights. Wemon didn't have 100% equall rights as a man. They had to have a separate movment.
That it would be a good tactic to bring it up simply to cause chaos in the Opression Olympics the left is having.
Not that I actually feel that way.
I'm sorry if I offended you fren.
This is not true at all. In terms of having kids, certainly the kinds of birth control we have today had not been invented, but there were still methods of preventing pregnancy - how do you think prostitutes kept themselves from being pregnant all the time? They used some kind of "cleaning" method with a sponge and vinegar or some such thing. There were also various herbs one could purchase on the sly from the local "wise women" that might induce abortion, plus back-ally abortions - some even done by husbands. Women have always had ways of preventing pregnancy or killing their own babies.
Divorce was more difficult for both men and women, it couldn't be done on a whim. But if you read books, it was still possible (for those with financial means) to simply abandon their spouse and live elsewhere with their lover, which might induce the spouse to agree to divorce.
Poor and lower class women have always had to work, as you should know - who do you think housemaids, laundry women, housekeepers, dressmakers were? Women (and children) even worked in coal mines, plus factories of course. There were jobs that either barred women, or they couldn't easily access because they were seldom educated for it, but that also applied to most poor men too. They could also own businesses - the most common were probably dressmaking/milliner's shops, or boarding houses.
Depending on where she lived, there were things a woman couldn't do, or couldn't easily have access to, but these history myths are a gross exaggeration. There is a strange tendency with feminists to keep parroting these myths about downtrodden, enslaved women in comparison to privileged men. They're comparing myths about women to the top ranks of men - the vast majority of men didn't have choices in education or jobs, the majority of them had dangerous low-paying jobs, and no money for education to get a better one, and weren't "in charge" of anyone, just had a supervisor yelling at them for their 8 or 10 or 12 hour shift.
It's not a bad thing to do, it doesn't hurt and it probably should have been done. People are just disappointed because a pardon for Assange, Flynn or Snowden would have been much more impactful to anything relevant to today
Well I guess it all worked out in the end. Lol
I cant belive they went this route.