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endthefed11 -20 points ago +22 / -42

Churchill destroyed Germany and incinerated entire cities of civilians thus opening the door for the Soviets to conquer half of Europe. Hitler could have annihilated the Brits at Dunkirk but he issued the halt order for which he is given zero credit. He just wanted German lands taken in the Versailles treaty back, and the humiliation of Germans to stop.

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I_Used_to_be_me 16 points ago +17 / -1

Battle of Britain was also a major strategic success (for the Allied Forces) that should have been a major victory for Germany ending with their occupation of the UK. They didn't retreat or stop bombing out of some kind of sympathy or anything, they retreated because they thought they didn't have enough airpower to continue. What they didn't realize, was that Britain was down to their last few planes, and all the planes rolled out onto the runways were dummy planes -- completely inoperable -- in the hopes that it would trick the Nazis into thinking the Brits had far more than they did. It worked. Had the German's continued, they were mere inches away from taking Britain, and it would have effectively ended the war, at least on that front

As for North Africa -- Mussolini totally fucked up everything for Hitler over there. His invasion basically forced Hitler to divert forces there to bail him out, at a very strategic time, no less.

And for Russia? Well... Hitler should have studied his history a bit more before invading there... but even still, he could have easily won there, too, but even Hitler's strategic genius got overclouded by his desires when he split his troops into two. He'd have taken Stalingrad, and eventually all of Russia, if not for that

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endthefed11 -2 points ago +14 / -16

He invaded Poland for Danzig and repeatedly made peace overtures to the Brits and Poles who refused. He had no choice but to continue at that point. He continued peace offers for years until the Brits started doing bombing runs on civilians which is when things got really ugly.

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endthefed11 4 points ago +9 / -5

He read some of his letters to Churchill in his nationally broadcasted speeches.

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endthefed11 -4 points ago +7 / -11

You refer to actions taken much later in the war when peace was totally off the table, and the NAZI propaganda machine was put into high gear.

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ripturntle -3 points ago +2 / -5

Germany deserved Dresden.

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endthefed11 1 point ago +2 / -1

All those innocent people burned alive? Thats sick. You have been drinking too much of the Allied cool-aid. It was wrong and attacks on civilians were unprecedented at the time.

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JohnWickParabellum -3 points ago +6 / -9

Move to Germany and then start talking like that to people on the street.

I dare you. You will end up serving a long prison term, if you survive.

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JohnWickParabellum 13 points ago +18 / -5

You are a Nazi apologist, get out of here with that rhetoric.

Operation Sea Lion, look it up.

Hitler frothed at the idea it had to be abandoned.

He wanted complete control of Europe and wished it to become entirely blonde hair and blue eyed GERMAN, the U.K. and others made their slaves like in France.

Their was nothing about the Third Reich that should ever be defended. Just like the U.S.S.R.

Both were totalitarian regimes that killed millions of their own people.

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endthefed11 -7 points ago +8 / -15

That was a contingency plan if peace did not work. At a certain point it was destroy or be destroyed. Remember the Brits declared war on Germany and refused peace for years.

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JohnWickParabellum 7 points ago +11 / -4

Your history is absolutely incorrect.

Sea Lion was well underway and only was abandoned once it was made clear that the Luftwaffe would not be able to establish air supremacy any time in the near future, after they lost the Battle of Britain.

These are established facts and the reason Goering fell out of favor with Hitler, he failed to deliver what was promised... the destruction of the RAF.

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endthefed11 -6 points ago +4 / -10

It absolutely was a contingency, and was not intended from the getgo. That is not "my history." It did become the plan when it became clear the war would continue.

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endthefed11 -7 points ago +3 / -10

Where are you getting this enslavement theory?

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JohnWickParabellum 3 points ago +8 / -5

Germans enslaved the French to fight in their military. They refused to return POWs after France surrendered unless they were replaced man for man with French "volunteers". Slavery, but with more steps.

Germans historically, are not a virtuous people, don't ever forget it. They were cold hearted and calculating, viscous and blood thirsty.

Hitler ordered his retreating troops in Germany to destroy all the infrastructure, not to slow the Allies, but to punish the German people for failing him.

Remember all the hangings the SS did for those that refused to pick up arms and fight for Germany? The people of Europe sure do.

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endthefed11 -6 points ago +4 / -10

I'm not denying that happened.

You seem to harbor racist views against Germans.

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Viewer01 4 points ago +7 / -3

Mmmmm hitler did nothing wrong, eh?

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endthefed11 -6 points ago +4 / -10

You said it, not me.

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Viewer01 4 points ago +7 / -3

I asked you if you agreed.

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endthefed11 2 points ago +5 / -3

I think that he underestimated his opponents and was too much of a fanatic. He thought of himself as a liberator of the occupied German lands, but the ends did not justify the means. He thought the war could end peacefully and quickly with the full restitution of enemy lands minus the Versailles territories and that was his fatal mistake. He did perform an economic miracle in Germany which is why he had such high support from the people. On the plus side he really fucking hated communists and had a sincere concern that communism would spread through Europe. Ironically he may have contributed to the spread of communism.

His views on Darwin's theory of natural selection were totally misguided to say the least.

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