it really is often the other way around. Women rarely choose to get abortions, its the father and families who do the choosing for them. If abortions were not legal, they would not be able to pressure mothers into them. In the rare case that the woman has sufficient agency to get an abortion, yes, if the father says no she can say "well it's my choice and my body" etc. But it's mostly irrelevant and conceals the fact that abortions are not about a woman's choice, but about getting rid of inconvenient children.
Sometimes the couple agrees to have an abortion if the woman gets pregnant, but then once she is pregnant she changes her mind (he or his or her family doesn't, though.)
The fact of the matter is that abortions are mostly legal and most people are opportunistic and practical. This is why abortion must be illegal.
Well, if you'd like to find some statistics, this discussion could go on. I'm not motivated to. Otherwise, it doesn't matter if the woman 'has the final say'. It matters who has agency and in general women do not. Sorry.
it really is often the other way around. Women rarely choose to get abortions, its the father and families who do the choosing for them. If abortions were not legal, they would not be able to pressure mothers into them. In the rare case that the woman has sufficient agency to get an abortion, yes, if the father says no she can say "well it's my choice and my body" etc. But it's mostly irrelevant and conceals the fact that abortions are not about a woman's choice, but about getting rid of inconvenient children.
Sometimes the couple agrees to have an abortion if the woman gets pregnant, but then once she is pregnant she changes her mind (he or his or her family doesn't, though.)
The fact of the matter is that abortions are mostly legal and most people are opportunistic and practical. This is why abortion must be illegal.
Well, if you'd like to find some statistics, this discussion could go on. I'm not motivated to. Otherwise, it doesn't matter if the woman 'has the final say'. It matters who has agency and in general women do not. Sorry.