This is so tiresome. Your BS that somehow the NSA are the good guys and the CIA are the bad is so childish. Both agencies were required to share information and collections by the Obama admin. It doesn’t matter if one is good or not. The CIA has full access. Both Intel agencies lied to congress and to America. Both betrayed our Constitution.
Snowdens leak is directly tied to Brennan and Clapper, independently, lying to Congress. He did the right thing.
Nope. You forgot to mention the Verizon illegal warrant to collect cell logs and location history of ALL verizon wireless customers. In addition, it was confirmed that an identical warrant was issued to the other cell providers. All americans with cell phones were being logged.
Companies were not allowed to challenge the warrant as FISC was a roberts rubber stamp. They never turned down a request.
Also parallel construction. Im amazed, but not surprised, you left this out.
Snowden swore an oath (same one I swore) to uphold and defend the Constitution. The government can’t conduct surveillance on American citizens without a warrant, and the issuance of that warrant must be determined based on due process. Deep State traitors are conducting surveillance on citizens based on politics, not criminality, and they are using outright fabrications or the flimsiest of process crimes to do so. You should be against this, and Barr should be against this. But I fear that both of you are not.
He wasn't smart enough to filter out specific NSA programs he was so concerned with. He fucking copy pasta'ed the entire fucking NSA sharepoint folder and published it to the public domain. He is a retard glory whore who needs to die in prison or by firing squad.
I swore that oath twice, in the military. But when I worked as a contractor, we did not swear any oaths. We signed a document about not divulging classified information. He likely did the same.
There is no question he committed a crime. The question is whether he was forced to commit that crime due to criminal acts by his superiors preventing him from whistle blowing, and whether that justifies pardon or even dropping his charges in an effort to prosecute bigger fish.
I now lean towards dropping or lessening charges and getting his assistance in going after the worse criminals in our government and its many contractors.
But this isn't a simple black and white issue. Just because there is a positive outcome of committing a crime, doesn't necessarily excuse the crime. You don't want to set a precedent where any political idiot thinks it's ok to leak out classified information.
So it's an entirely valid argument with good points on both sides. Acting as if anyone who isn't 100% on board with your view of it is pretty lame.
I suspect as much, which is why I have come around to the idea of dropping charges. But there also needs to be a reckoning for those involved in forcing his hand.
Snowden was a fucking contractor. He was not a federal employee // GS // GG grade government civilian. He swore no oath. He dropped MILLIONS of TOP SECRET documents into the public domain without knowing what was contained in it all. You can't swear an oath to protect something while at the same time taking actions to fucking crush it. He is a scum, Barr is correct.
But Barr never said that he was for it. Snowden did expose intelligence running roughshod over the constitution, but he could have done it differently instead of leaking to the press and escaping to Russia. Heroes don’t hide in enemy territory.
You live in a country where the Secretary of State had her housekeeper print out classified material and smashed subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and walked away scot-free while a submariner took a selfie and got thrown in the clink for years and would have stayed there if Trump hadn't pardoned him.
And you think Snowden would have been protected by his government after exposing that same government's unconstitutional surveillance?
You're fucking delusional if you really believe that, dude.
Thank God Snowden did what he did.......DOJ and other agencies are upset because somebody spilled the beans on their illegal snooping, intelligence gathering on the American people.
He had no choice. He swore an oath and watched as James Clapper betrayed his nation in congressional testimony on live TV. Then we all watched as DOJ turned a blind eye towards this felony until the statute of limitations ran out.
the fact that coup plotters are hailed as "whistleblowers" and a hero like Snowden is portrayed as the scum of the Earth is all the reason I need to utterly despair of the sickness that is the federal government healing itself
Snowdens leak can be directly tied to Clappers testimony to congress, when he brazenly lied and said that the NSA was not collecting information on millions of Americans. Snowden saw Clappers lie, and believed he had no choice but to leak the truth. He was right. The IC betrayed our Constitution, and Bush and Obama were complicit.
I mean, not really... He exposed shit that makes the US look bad, no surprise he could make bank doing speeches in Russia. Doesn't matter if he was justified or not.
What exactly do you think Snowden did that exhibits an intent to harm the country?
Snowden exposed that our own intelligence services were illegally surveilling us and then lying about it in front of congress.
He's not a traitor. He's a criminal, but only because he didn't follow the proper channels and he only did that because he couldn't be sure they wouldn't kill him and bury it all if he did.
Snowden deserves to be pardoned, he is a legit whistleblower. My guess is Barr doesn't want to encourage people to do what Snowden did because of how damaging it was to the reputation of the intel community.
That's what I've read. He worked with them before any leaks occured. Then left for Russia. It's a two sided coin type of issue. Letting us know the deets is one thing, but he had the chance to tell us all of this through other methods. Not to mention the fact it could be all orchestrated anyway.
Snowden should be executed for treason. The issue he was whistleblowing on publications had proven and he should have added his voice to that. You don't get to steal other things on the way out the door, and you don't go giving that to Russia for protection.
Actually, it's the other way around. If he was 'for' pardoning Snowden, he should be for letting Clapper/Brennan get away with it. He doesn't want Snowden to get away with his crimes. Therefore, Clapper/Brennan shouldn't either. Make sense?
He can agree on some things and disagree on others. That's normal... He is a strong ally to Trump in the administration and has done well. He can have his opinion. Good leaders listen to the opinions of people they trust, take it into account with what they have seen and believe, then make their own decision!
Very divisive issue. Even here we can debate this issue. I'll support Trump's judgement. But I would be cautious if I were him since the people I know who hate Snowden the most are military and veterans. Doesn't mean they are right just something to consider.
There's a lot of crazy stuff being posted here about Snowden. I might be able to help you sift aside the conspiracies and platitudes. On two levels I can help you understand him; I'm in his field of work and I blew the whistle on a bad government agency practice. What "I" didn't do is sell the information to media outlets and enemies of The United States. I went through proper channels. When I see the media that calls him a "genius programmer" I kek. He was a flunky in charge of data backups. What he found was of concern, but he could have gone through the proper channels and had the same effect without compromising our security. You might say "but waitasecond pede!.. if he went through proper channels it would have caused a cover up!"... you really need to turn off your TV if you believe that. The checks and balances aren't weighted at both ends with unpatriotic megalomaniacs. General Jack Nicholson isn't going to clear out his wall safe to hire Jason Borne to take out the whistleblower. Seriously... these are normal people doing normal jobs... most of which love their country. Another thing he conveniently left out is that the data backups he snooped had no PII data attached... like names or phone numbers. It was de-identified metadata, protected at row level. All you could see was connections from one unnamed record to another... you need a serious court order to attach names and phone numbers to those records.. or open any files. Do I disagree with collecting the information of American Citizens? You're damned strait I do.
Not because I think it was being misused, but because I think it could be misused by future bureaucrats. Anyone who wants to use second hand knowledge and talking points to argue with me... just please... don't make yourself look silly.
He’s said he would if he was guaranteed a fair public trial. Espionage laws say he wouldn’t be.
And from Hawaii, Hong Kong was the closest place with no extradition. You’d have to provide some evidence China or Russia got their hands on any of his material if you want to claim he’s a traitor.
He’s said he would if he was guaranteed a fair public trial. Espionage laws say he wouldn’t be.
He will have a public trial with portions that are not public to protect national secrets. When you get secret clearance you know that is part of the deal. The government is not gonna give away more secrets to put you in jail.
And from Hawaii, Hong Kong was the closest place with no extradition
First, he worked in DC. Second I don't care. Take your lumps if you think this is a noble cause.
You’d have to provide some evidence China or Russia got their hands on any of his material if you want to claim he’s a traitor.
I don't. China's aggressive espionage tactics against people in their country are well known.
There are probably reasons for this decision we won't know about for many years to come. Think about how fucking crazy our intel community has been the past decade. Who the hell knows the truth anymore.
Snowden is a traitor. No one can deny that. You can say the same about Brennan too. Barr did not link the two.
There was 100 different ways Snowden could have done what he did without compromising millions in tech and human capital. He is living in Russia ffs because he is a coward, and a traitor to his country.
You can choose to not give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he’s lying about everything, but just remember that you will then be in alignment with talking heads on CNN and MSNBC.
An “intelligent” person might see that as cause to question what you think you know about a topic.
Just a quick reminder for the Snowden lovers in this thread. That jackass dropped MILLIONS of highly classified documents that had nothing to do with NSA spying. There is NO WAY he could, in his entire lifetime, know what was in all of the TS/SCI documents he handed over to China / Russia. He is a scumbag traitor that should never set foot on US soil unless it is for his trial for Treason.
To the concern fags whom will inevitably cry out in rage, "Well how else should he have let the world know the NSA was spying on American metadata?"
The answer is easy, if you don't let your estrogen based emotional rage get in the way.
He could have and should have blown the whistle on the specific subject of NSA spying, rather than dump a metric shit ton of classified documents that will, by definition, cause irreparable damage to the US national security apparatus.
You are either completely misinformed with lies about the situation, or intentionally spreading lies. He released a small number of documents to a newspaper to get the information out there. You are spreading lies and misinformation.
Do you have the evidence that points to him only releasing a few specific documents? It sounds like you are spreading lies because it's very easy to find sources contrary to your point of view.
"The declassified security review was conducted following the leak of over one million NSA files by Edward Snowden between 2012 and 2013. "
Bullshit. Trump gave Barr declass authority 2 years ago and we aint seen jack shit from him. Barr is swamp. THREE MONTHS TO GO AND BARR HAS GIVEN US JACK SHIT.
Ok armchair general, lets say he declassifies the TREASON and PROSECUTES APPROPRIATELY. How do you think that will be seen by normies who couldn't point to DC on a map? Political Suicide.
THINK PEOPLE! I KNOW IT HURTS BUT HE IS BEHOLDEN TO THE SYSTEM UNTIL HE IS NOT
Why so? Snowden is a traitor, makes no sense to consider offering him a pardon. If you pardon him you might as well pardon hillary and obama the Usurper.
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I don't know how anyone thinks Snowden was the good guy. It goes without saying that the NSA and CIA watch us, they literally have to do that to perform their duty. The soviets have been planting people in our midst since the KGB's inception and there is no way to find an insider threat before they act without doing that.
If Snowden wanted to come out publicly and say "hey America, the USA is watching its own citizens." That's at least remotely defensible from a liberty point of view, but to reveal in detail the technologies and methods that our intelligence agency uses both domestically and abroad to monitor and disrupt terror activity and foreign subversion attempts only enables those entities to act more efficiently. You might think I'm full of shit bootlicking the CIA/NSA but I bet they haven't changed their monitoring of us, but he definitely has helped foreign governments evade and outmaneuver their monitoring.
Hell, I would be inclined to believe conspiracies that Snowden's actions are a significant reason why the Russians and Chinese have been able to meddle so capably in American society like they are today. We weren't flooded with racial tension, social corruption, and Marxist revolts until after he revealed to our biggest enemies the capability and function of our intelligence services. The man is an oath breaker, and I say fuck him.
You might be okay with surrendering your constitutional rights and freedom to an Orwellian government all seeing eye.
But I am not. The people have a right to know what their government is doing, with respect to our rights.
We didn’t know before Snowden.
And no, it is not the job of the NSA and CIA to “watch us.” The CIA, in particular, is a foreign intelligence service. The NSA is more nebulous, but it is centered around signals intelligence. There is plenty of SIGINT outside of the US, for them to focus on.
It would be one thing if it was only used on foreign targets, but that is not the case
What happened to Trump proves that Snowden was right. The government used these spying capabilities to spy on Americans, not foreign threats. And the FISA court was little more than a rubber stamp.
And the Chinese were hacking before Snowden did what he did. The Russians were doing influence ops before Snowden.
The biggest fallout was that the Chinese threatened to fragment the internet.
DOJ looks out for each other. Nothing is going to happen.
If it weren't for Snowden we wouldn't know a tenth of the shit we do about our own Stasi.
Correct, on both counts.
He vehemently opposed Randy Weaver getting any justice for the PIGS killing his wife, child and dog also.
Wow you are defending an order following murderer good fucking job.
He made the decision to kill a 14yo and a mother with baby in arm? Or is this another similar hero of yours?
Snowden is a National Hero. Of the highest regard. He has sacrificed almost everything to show us a glimmer of truth.
Snowden is a spook. It’s good that we got the info. But the only reason we got it was the CIA and the NSA were fighting with each other.
This is so tiresome. Your BS that somehow the NSA are the good guys and the CIA are the bad is so childish. Both agencies were required to share information and collections by the Obama admin. It doesn’t matter if one is good or not. The CIA has full access. Both Intel agencies lied to congress and to America. Both betrayed our Constitution.
Snowdens leak is directly tied to Brennan and Clapper, independently, lying to Congress. He did the right thing.
And they got less? Lol, snowden leaked on behalf of Americans to give them more authority.
To give the cia more authority
The CIA created their own server that copies everything the NSAs does.
That's not true. CIA does not have full access.
Not when they are collecting information on hundreds of millions of Americans with no due process, and handing it to the CIA, pal.
Nope. You forgot to mention the Verizon illegal warrant to collect cell logs and location history of ALL verizon wireless customers. In addition, it was confirmed that an identical warrant was issued to the other cell providers. All americans with cell phones were being logged.
Companies were not allowed to challenge the warrant as FISC was a roberts rubber stamp. They never turned down a request.
Also parallel construction. Im amazed, but not surprised, you left this out.
Okay, hey, look, it was only 11,000 US citizens that had their 4th amendment rights flagrantly violated by the federal government.
Come on, guys, that's totally acceptable.
It’s called limited hang out but even if that’s the case he was a pawn and should be let free
Wonder what GW and TJ would be saying about now?
Hey won’t get a perfect case because they put up firewalls on important information.
Snowden swore an oath (same one I swore) to uphold and defend the Constitution. The government can’t conduct surveillance on American citizens without a warrant, and the issuance of that warrant must be determined based on due process. Deep State traitors are conducting surveillance on citizens based on politics, not criminality, and they are using outright fabrications or the flimsiest of process crimes to do so. You should be against this, and Barr should be against this. But I fear that both of you are not.
agreed, the issue seems to be the so called whistleblower procedure is nothing of the sort.
Whistleblowers against the deepstate is guaranteed death with your message most likely not succeeding, Snowden was smart enough to know that.
If this was true, he’d be dead. The fact he isn’t dead is proof to me that he was working for the deep state.
He wasn't smart enough to filter out specific NSA programs he was so concerned with. He fucking copy pasta'ed the entire fucking NSA sharepoint folder and published it to the public domain. He is a retard glory whore who needs to die in prison or by firing squad.
This. Parallel construction is exactly the type of distopian future our founders set out to prevent.
I swore that oath twice, in the military. But when I worked as a contractor, we did not swear any oaths. We signed a document about not divulging classified information. He likely did the same.
There is no question he committed a crime. The question is whether he was forced to commit that crime due to criminal acts by his superiors preventing him from whistle blowing, and whether that justifies pardon or even dropping his charges in an effort to prosecute bigger fish.
I now lean towards dropping or lessening charges and getting his assistance in going after the worse criminals in our government and its many contractors.
But this isn't a simple black and white issue. Just because there is a positive outcome of committing a crime, doesn't necessarily excuse the crime. You don't want to set a precedent where any political idiot thinks it's ok to leak out classified information.
So it's an entirely valid argument with good points on both sides. Acting as if anyone who isn't 100% on board with your view of it is pretty lame.
If he would have followed proper whistleblower laws he would have been silenced and possibly worse. Obama hated legal whistleblowers
I suspect as much, which is why I have come around to the idea of dropping charges. But there also needs to be a reckoning for those involved in forcing his hand.
Snowden was a fucking contractor. He was not a federal employee // GS // GG grade government civilian. He swore no oath. He dropped MILLIONS of TOP SECRET documents into the public domain without knowing what was contained in it all. You can't swear an oath to protect something while at the same time taking actions to fucking crush it. He is a scum, Barr is correct.
But Barr never said that he was for it. Snowden did expose intelligence running roughshod over the constitution, but he could have done it differently instead of leaking to the press and escaping to Russia. Heroes don’t hide in enemy territory.
He didn’t “escape” to russia he was trapped there by Obama. His passport was revoked by the state dept as he was flying through Russia on a layover.
Bullshit, man.
You live in a country where the Secretary of State had her housekeeper print out classified material and smashed subpoenaed cell phones with hammers and walked away scot-free while a submariner took a selfie and got thrown in the clink for years and would have stayed there if Trump hadn't pardoned him.
And you think Snowden would have been protected by his government after exposing that same government's unconstitutional surveillance?
You're fucking delusional if you really believe that, dude.
Thank God Snowden did what he did.......DOJ and other agencies are upset because somebody spilled the beans on their illegal snooping, intelligence gathering on the American people.
Give that man his pardon.
Snowden claims all copies were given to journalists.
He had no choice. He swore an oath and watched as James Clapper betrayed his nation in congressional testimony on live TV. Then we all watched as DOJ turned a blind eye towards this felony until the statute of limitations ran out.
When Barr starts prosecuting, starts rolling heads, starts throwing deep state actors in jail, then he gets to have an opinion on Snowden.
You talk a big game Barr. Now let’s see that axe fly!
the fact that coup plotters are hailed as "whistleblowers" and a hero like Snowden is portrayed as the scum of the Earth is all the reason I need to utterly despair of the sickness that is the federal government healing itself
Snowdens leak can be directly tied to Clappers testimony to congress, when he brazenly lied and said that the NSA was not collecting information on millions of Americans. Snowden saw Clappers lie, and believed he had no choice but to leak the truth. He was right. The IC betrayed our Constitution, and Bush and Obama were complicit.
Okay Billy Bagpipes. How about we just give him 0-2 weeks of jail time and call it a day? That seems to be how things work at the DOJ.
If there's no October Surprise, I won't believe anything is ever going to happen. Even after re-election.
Are we doing the "Trust in Barr, these things take time" thing like we did for Sessions?
Billy you gotta get a new play book, the dims are playing with no rules.
I don’t trust Snowden. I don’t care what any of you say! Don’t trust him.
I mean, not really... He exposed shit that makes the US look bad, no surprise he could make bank doing speeches in Russia. Doesn't matter if he was justified or not.
That was almost 8 years ago, dude. That's like $125k a year.
He's a well trained security analyst. What do you think his salary would be in the US?
Shit, I've made half that in the same time frame and all I do is type shit into a computer and answer phone calls.
He’s definitely not. He hates Trump like all the lefties, but he’s still a hero, similar to Seth Rich.
See. He is deep state. There will be no happening. Qanon was a farse to cattle the 4chan creatures away from the humans moderates.
Barr is not one of us and never was.
What exactly do you think Snowden did that exhibits an intent to harm the country?
Snowden exposed that our own intelligence services were illegally surveilling us and then lying about it in front of congress.
He's not a traitor. He's a criminal, but only because he didn't follow the proper channels and he only did that because he couldn't be sure they wouldn't kill him and bury it all if he did.
I hope DJT pardons Snowden anyway. Its not like Barr has done right by DJT and us. Snowden is a hero.
Yep. Remember Trump gave Barr sole declass authority on spygate 2 YEARS AGO! And what do we have to show for it. Absolute dick.
Snowden deserves to be pardoned, he is a legit whistleblower. My guess is Barr doesn't want to encourage people to do what Snowden did because of how damaging it was to the reputation of the intel community.
After reading the comments it’s pretty apparent there are a lot of Stasi apologists on thedonald.
Can’t imagine how many CIA, NSA and FBI are monitoring this site.
If the government doesn’t want people exposing their illegal shit then stop fucking doing it.
Didn’t Snowden go to China at one point? Maybe that’s why?
He intentionally met his journalists in Hong Kong for obvious reasons.
That's what I've read. He worked with them before any leaks occured. Then left for Russia. It's a two sided coin type of issue. Letting us know the deets is one thing, but he had the chance to tell us all of this through other methods. Not to mention the fact it could be all orchestrated anyway.
That’s ok because when it doesn’t matter what he thinks. He was opposed the Roger Stone pardon too, and look how much that mattered.
DOJ is as true to its name as the Ministry of Truth. They all must be punished.
Well good thing Barr is not President
Snowden should be executed for treason. The issue he was whistleblowing on publications had proven and he should have added his voice to that. You don't get to steal other things on the way out the door, and you don't go giving that to Russia for protection.
Actually, it's the other way around. If he was 'for' pardoning Snowden, he should be for letting Clapper/Brennan get away with it. He doesn't want Snowden to get away with his crimes. Therefore, Clapper/Brennan shouldn't either. Make sense?
He can agree on some things and disagree on others. That's normal... He is a strong ally to Trump in the administration and has done well. He can have his opinion. Good leaders listen to the opinions of people they trust, take it into account with what they have seen and believe, then make their own decision!
Pardoning Snowden would be epic
Guaranteed reelection
All the more reason to pardon him
Very divisive issue. Even here we can debate this issue. I'll support Trump's judgement. But I would be cautious if I were him since the people I know who hate Snowden the most are military and veterans. Doesn't mean they are right just something to consider.
Gimme a break! Ruby Ridge Barr hasn't changed a fuckin bit.
Snowden is probably deep state connected. We shall see.
There's a lot of crazy stuff being posted here about Snowden. I might be able to help you sift aside the conspiracies and platitudes. On two levels I can help you understand him; I'm in his field of work and I blew the whistle on a bad government agency practice. What "I" didn't do is sell the information to media outlets and enemies of The United States. I went through proper channels. When I see the media that calls him a "genius programmer" I kek. He was a flunky in charge of data backups. What he found was of concern, but he could have gone through the proper channels and had the same effect without compromising our security. You might say "but waitasecond pede!.. if he went through proper channels it would have caused a cover up!"... you really need to turn off your TV if you believe that. The checks and balances aren't weighted at both ends with unpatriotic megalomaniacs. General Jack Nicholson isn't going to clear out his wall safe to hire Jason Borne to take out the whistleblower. Seriously... these are normal people doing normal jobs... most of which love their country. Another thing he conveniently left out is that the data backups he snooped had no PII data attached... like names or phone numbers. It was de-identified metadata, protected at row level. All you could see was connections from one unnamed record to another... you need a serious court order to attach names and phone numbers to those records.. or open any files. Do I disagree with collecting the information of American Citizens? You're damned strait I do. Not because I think it was being misused, but because I think it could be misused by future bureaucrats. Anyone who wants to use second hand knowledge and talking points to argue with me... just please... don't make yourself look silly.
Always remember what we know about Snowden is what we have been told. We do not know the full extent of what he has done and is doing.
did he let us know about a lot of horrible stuff, sure.
What is the other side of that coin though?
I'm also opposed to pardoning Snowden because he went to China and Russia with a drive full of secrets.
If leaking is necessary then stay and take your lumps. Don't run to our geopolitical enemies.
He claims otherwise. Says all copies were given to journalists specifically so they wouldn’t be taken from him as he travelled
He can say that all day long. But his choice to leak and his choice of countries to run to makes him very suspicious.
Just like Obama wanted you to think when he trapped him in Russia
It wasn't Obama who made him run to China.
He can choose to return the the USA to face the music. Obama's not in charge anymore.
He’s said he would if he was guaranteed a fair public trial. Espionage laws say he wouldn’t be.
And from Hawaii, Hong Kong was the closest place with no extradition. You’d have to provide some evidence China or Russia got their hands on any of his material if you want to claim he’s a traitor.
He will have a public trial with portions that are not public to protect national secrets. When you get secret clearance you know that is part of the deal. The government is not gonna give away more secrets to put you in jail.
First, he worked in DC. Second I don't care. Take your lumps if you think this is a noble cause.
I don't. China's aggressive espionage tactics against people in their country are well known.
Then fuck Barr. Neo con piece of shit
There are probably reasons for this decision we won't know about for many years to come. Think about how fucking crazy our intel community has been the past decade. Who the hell knows the truth anymore.
Barr and Durham and Wray have had their day.
William Aldenberg and John Huber... both duds.
Sadly, the day of reckoning is upon us from all appearances.
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Snowden is a traitor. No one can deny that. You can say the same about Brennan too. Barr did not link the two.
There was 100 different ways Snowden could have done what he did without compromising millions in tech and human capital. He is living in Russia ffs because he is a coward, and a traitor to his country.
Fuck Snowden, can’t believe anyone with a decent IQ wants him to have any freedom
You can choose to not give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he’s lying about everything, but just remember that you will then be in alignment with talking heads on CNN and MSNBC.
An “intelligent” person might see that as cause to question what you think you know about a topic.
Just a quick reminder for the Snowden lovers in this thread. That jackass dropped MILLIONS of highly classified documents that had nothing to do with NSA spying. There is NO WAY he could, in his entire lifetime, know what was in all of the TS/SCI documents he handed over to China / Russia. He is a scumbag traitor that should never set foot on US soil unless it is for his trial for Treason.
To the concern fags whom will inevitably cry out in rage, "Well how else should he have let the world know the NSA was spying on American metadata?"
The answer is easy, if you don't let your estrogen based emotional rage get in the way.
He could have and should have blown the whistle on the specific subject of NSA spying, rather than dump a metric shit ton of classified documents that will, by definition, cause irreparable damage to the US national security apparatus.
Snowden can rot in hell / Russia for F's sake.
//Rant Complete
You are either completely misinformed with lies about the situation, or intentionally spreading lies. He released a small number of documents to a newspaper to get the information out there. You are spreading lies and misinformation.
Do you have the evidence that points to him only releasing a few specific documents? It sounds like you are spreading lies because it's very easy to find sources contrary to your point of view.
"The declassified security review was conducted following the leak of over one million NSA files by Edward Snowden between 2012 and 2013. "
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/06/20/declassified-nsa-documents-show-poor-digital-security-practices/
Last I saw it was less than 1% and around 8000 documents.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/07/wikileaks-publishes-biggest-ever-leak-of-secret-cia-documents-hacking-surveillance
Okay. So you more concerned with classified documents, than you are with the destruction of the constitutional rights of all Americans.
Got it.
everything changes after we secure the WH for another 4 years. Trump can declassify everything and lock them all up
Bullshit. Trump gave Barr declass authority 2 years ago and we aint seen jack shit from him. Barr is swamp. THREE MONTHS TO GO AND BARR HAS GIVEN US JACK SHIT.
Ok armchair general, lets say he declassifies the TREASON and PROSECUTES APPROPRIATELY. How do you think that will be seen by normies who couldn't point to DC on a map? Political Suicide.
THINK PEOPLE! I KNOW IT HURTS BUT HE IS BEHOLDEN TO THE SYSTEM UNTIL HE IS NOT
All for show. Being done to dispel the notion that Barr is Trump's lapdog.
Why so? Snowden is a traitor, makes no sense to consider offering him a pardon. If you pardon him you might as well pardon hillary and obama the Usurper.
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Even lower effort reddit boi.
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"Who u callen boy".....reddit cuck.
I don't know how anyone thinks Snowden was the good guy. It goes without saying that the NSA and CIA watch us, they literally have to do that to perform their duty. The soviets have been planting people in our midst since the KGB's inception and there is no way to find an insider threat before they act without doing that.
If Snowden wanted to come out publicly and say "hey America, the USA is watching its own citizens." That's at least remotely defensible from a liberty point of view, but to reveal in detail the technologies and methods that our intelligence agency uses both domestically and abroad to monitor and disrupt terror activity and foreign subversion attempts only enables those entities to act more efficiently. You might think I'm full of shit bootlicking the CIA/NSA but I bet they haven't changed their monitoring of us, but he definitely has helped foreign governments evade and outmaneuver their monitoring.
Hell, I would be inclined to believe conspiracies that Snowden's actions are a significant reason why the Russians and Chinese have been able to meddle so capably in American society like they are today. We weren't flooded with racial tension, social corruption, and Marxist revolts until after he revealed to our biggest enemies the capability and function of our intelligence services. The man is an oath breaker, and I say fuck him.
This is the same stupid fucking argument I hear people say “I don’t care if the govt is spying on me because I’m not doing anything wrong”. 🙄
You might be okay with surrendering your constitutional rights and freedom to an Orwellian government all seeing eye.
But I am not. The people have a right to know what their government is doing, with respect to our rights.
We didn’t know before Snowden.
And no, it is not the job of the NSA and CIA to “watch us.” The CIA, in particular, is a foreign intelligence service. The NSA is more nebulous, but it is centered around signals intelligence. There is plenty of SIGINT outside of the US, for them to focus on.
It would be one thing if it was only used on foreign targets, but that is not the case
What happened to Trump proves that Snowden was right. The government used these spying capabilities to spy on Americans, not foreign threats. And the FISA court was little more than a rubber stamp.
And the Chinese were hacking before Snowden did what he did. The Russians were doing influence ops before Snowden.
The biggest fallout was that the Chinese threatened to fragment the internet.
Troll here.
How is that being a troll lmao