I don't know how anyone thinks Snowden was the good guy. It goes without saying that the NSA and CIA watch us, they literally have to do that to perform their duty. The soviets have been planting people in our midst since the KGB's inception and there is no way to find an insider threat before they act without doing that.
If Snowden wanted to come out publicly and say "hey America, the USA is watching its own citizens." That's at least remotely defensible from a liberty point of view, but to reveal in detail the technologies and methods that our intelligence agency uses both domestically and abroad to monitor and disrupt terror activity and foreign subversion attempts only enables those entities to act more efficiently. You might think I'm full of shit bootlicking the CIA/NSA but I bet they haven't changed their monitoring of us, but he definitely has helped foreign governments evade and outmaneuver their monitoring.
Hell, I would be inclined to believe conspiracies that Snowden's actions are a significant reason why the Russians and Chinese have been able to meddle so capably in American society like they are today. We weren't flooded with racial tension, social corruption, and Marxist revolts until after he revealed to our biggest enemies the capability and function of our intelligence services. The man is an oath breaker, and I say fuck him.
You might be okay with surrendering your constitutional rights and freedom to an Orwellian government all seeing eye.
But I am not. The people have a right to know what their government is doing, with respect to our rights.
We didn’t know before Snowden.
And no, it is not the job of the NSA and CIA to “watch us.” The CIA, in particular, is a foreign intelligence service. The NSA is more nebulous, but it is centered around signals intelligence. There is plenty of SIGINT outside of the US, for them to focus on.
It would be one thing if it was only used on foreign targets, but that is not the case
What happened to Trump proves that Snowden was right. The government used these spying capabilities to spy on Americans, not foreign threats. And the FISA court was little more than a rubber stamp.
And the Chinese were hacking before Snowden did what he did. The Russians were doing influence ops before Snowden.
The biggest fallout was that the Chinese threatened to fragment the internet.
I don't know how anyone thinks Snowden was the good guy. It goes without saying that the NSA and CIA watch us, they literally have to do that to perform their duty. The soviets have been planting people in our midst since the KGB's inception and there is no way to find an insider threat before they act without doing that.
If Snowden wanted to come out publicly and say "hey America, the USA is watching its own citizens." That's at least remotely defensible from a liberty point of view, but to reveal in detail the technologies and methods that our intelligence agency uses both domestically and abroad to monitor and disrupt terror activity and foreign subversion attempts only enables those entities to act more efficiently. You might think I'm full of shit bootlicking the CIA/NSA but I bet they haven't changed their monitoring of us, but he definitely has helped foreign governments evade and outmaneuver their monitoring.
Hell, I would be inclined to believe conspiracies that Snowden's actions are a significant reason why the Russians and Chinese have been able to meddle so capably in American society like they are today. We weren't flooded with racial tension, social corruption, and Marxist revolts until after he revealed to our biggest enemies the capability and function of our intelligence services. The man is an oath breaker, and I say fuck him.
This is the same stupid fucking argument I hear people say “I don’t care if the govt is spying on me because I’m not doing anything wrong”. 🙄
You might be okay with surrendering your constitutional rights and freedom to an Orwellian government all seeing eye.
But I am not. The people have a right to know what their government is doing, with respect to our rights.
We didn’t know before Snowden.
And no, it is not the job of the NSA and CIA to “watch us.” The CIA, in particular, is a foreign intelligence service. The NSA is more nebulous, but it is centered around signals intelligence. There is plenty of SIGINT outside of the US, for them to focus on.
It would be one thing if it was only used on foreign targets, but that is not the case
What happened to Trump proves that Snowden was right. The government used these spying capabilities to spy on Americans, not foreign threats. And the FISA court was little more than a rubber stamp.
And the Chinese were hacking before Snowden did what he did. The Russians were doing influence ops before Snowden.
The biggest fallout was that the Chinese threatened to fragment the internet.
Troll here.
How is that being a troll lmao