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deadlyblackcentipede 1 point ago +1 / -0

You might be okay with surrendering your constitutional rights and freedom to an Orwellian government all seeing eye.

But I am not. The people have a right to know what their government is doing, with respect to our rights.

We didn’t know before Snowden.

And no, it is not the job of the NSA and CIA to “watch us.” The CIA, in particular, is a foreign intelligence service. The NSA is more nebulous, but it is centered around signals intelligence. There is plenty of SIGINT outside of the US, for them to focus on.

It would be one thing if it was only used on foreign targets, but that is not the case

What happened to Trump proves that Snowden was right. The government used these spying capabilities to spy on Americans, not foreign threats. And the FISA court was little more than a rubber stamp.

And the Chinese were hacking before Snowden did what he did. The Russians were doing influence ops before Snowden.

The biggest fallout was that the Chinese threatened to fragment the internet.