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posted ago by doug2 ago by doug2 +25 / -1

I have been thinking about how to stop the dems from stealing this election using the virus a an excuse to implement mail in voting. I realized something, that as much as it isn't a good arguement for mail in voting, that it is actually true that there really hasn't been much widespread fraud in our national elections. Now this isnt because Dems would not do it, their primaries are riddled with fraud and election Engineering. Before the 2016 election, Hillary covered the DNCs 34 million dollars of debt and in return was given operational control of the DNC 15 months before the democratic national convention had even chosen a candidate. In the 2015-2016 democratic primaries the Clinton campaign ran the DNC, and they used this power to A. sabotage Bernie with the press b. Favor Hillary's nomination. On top of this Engineering, they took part in outright fraud. They went to key strongholds of Bernie Sanders in the primaries and told Bernie supporters that their district had been changed and that they now needed to fill out absentee ballots instead of regular ones. The DNC then took these absentee ballots and tossed them. This is what pissed Seth Rich off enough to leak the emails, but I digress. They do it in democratic races, but seem to be unable to in national votes.

So they would do it if able, but they really haven't, they didn't in 2016 when I was sure they would. I believe that it's harder than we think, and that there might be a different reason for this mail in push outside of the increased ability to carry out fraud.

Think, what is the main advantage Ttump has over Biden right now? What factor makes Trump's victory the most likely outcome in a fair election? It isn't pure numbers, there are probably more Democrats than Trump voters if we are being realistic, propaganda is effective.

No, his advantage is largely due to the tremendous gap in enthusiasm between Trump and Biden voters. Very few people are excited to vote for joe and kamala, but they would because they hate trump. We know what these voters usually do on election day, a good portion of them stay home. They would have voted biden, but they're not going to make an effort. This could realistically be what 30% of people, people who tell polls they support biden, end up doing. This would take Biden from, let's say 55% (assuming a 55-45 split), down to 37%

On the flip side Trump voters will do anything to vote for him, they are tremendously enthusiastic and excited. At most 5% of people who claim they're Trump voters in polls might stay home. If we go off a 55-45 biden trump split, his would be 42.5%. We go from 55-45 favoring Biden, to to 38-43, in favor of Trump.

Now considering that Trump stands to win with less overall voters because of the concentration of Biden voters in several small areas like LA and NY, this would represent an electoral landslide. These numbers would result in an absolute landslide victory for Trump, despite Biden have more people who would tell a poll that they're voting Biden.

The deep state knows this, but what can they do? Well, what if they removed this factor entirely by sending ballots to every single voter so that the 30% of biden voters, who would have stayed home, end up voting anyway because it was brought to them with no effort.

This would take an in person, enthusiasm influenced election of 38-43 trump win and take it right back to 53-47 biden advantage.

All without the need for even one single fraudulent vote. Now if you combine this with the increased turnout we would see from black city voters in red states, it would spell trouble. Blacks are among the community least enthusiastic about biden harris, but most of them still would pick them if they could do so without making effort. As a result of this alone could see Red States go blue that would never have a chance otherwise. Florida. Indiana. Ohio.

Put simply, a mail in vote would turn what should be a Trump landslide into a potential Biden victory. Add in their power to use big tech to implement election Engineering to target key areas and we are in real trouble.

We need find a way to stop mail in voting without the voter submitting an expressed request for the ballot. If we can just get that win we're golden.

I reccomend Trump Say, "ok, fine. We can do mail in. However, it needs to be universal and consistent from state to state. Some rules, to ensure they are still alive and at the same address, and to make sure we do not have dogs and cats getting ballots,

The voter must first request a mail in ballot of their volition.

There will be no prompts or mass mailing to all registered voters. The ballots can not be picked up by anyone other than an officially designated mail carrier assigned exclusively to picking up votes that day.they each would be accompanied by a independent election observer and would have cameras in the car, both the observer and carrier wearing bodycams that would be publicly broadcast online for citizens to monitor, and if they both went off the truck would stopped and law enforcement would follow up with the situation to ensure there's no fraud occurring

The votes would all be collected on November 3rd. Not after. Not before, (unless you ask for an absentee ballots. They would be different.) Polls end with one final round by the post carrier designated to pick up votes, starting at 9 or 10 pm. After that it is over, no arguements.

Voters would have two options, leave them in their mail box with the flag up, or drop them at designated election drop off boxes that would be announced weeks before to avoid confusion. As the vote collector would be making several rounds, those concerned with people stealing ballots could wait for the person to come by or use the boxes.

The envelope would be federally designed to ensure there was no way of determining who the vote was for without opening it. No serial numbers with an R or.a D on the OUTSIDE of the ballots. No see through paper or red dots on Republican ballots.Each 5th or 10th envelope would have a GPS trackable chip inserted to help election HQ in DC monitor that the votes are going, from mailboxes to counting stations only. No missing stacks of envelopes.envelopes.

This is our only hope of defeating mail in. If we don't ensure it's done properly, negating the advantage the dems hope to gain, States will just do their own version and there will be fraud and rampant mistakes, missing votes, confused voters, dead people, harvesting, and they will bypass the enthusiasm issue the dems have. We can't stop them. The only way forward is to make sure we get it done properly AND ONLY BY REQUESTING A BALLOT WOULD ONE RECEIVE A BALLOT. If the th dems refuse or states insist on doing things there way it would certainly raise eyebrows among normies, why would you not want federal help making sure the vote by mail runs smoothly?

It would help us get the vote that's scared of Covid but still wmags trump as well.

This was a lot, but I've been thinking hard about this and it's the only option I can see to negate the negatives of Mail in and to STOP THE THEFT OF THIS ELECTION.

Plus, if the Dems refuse to agree it would make it clear that their push for mail in is not about making sure people are safe. They just want to take advantage of chaos that they are making. If nothing can be agreed upon federally, or states argue that state's rights allow them to run their own elections however they want, make it voluntary Offer the help running the system, with federal dollars, if they're interested. We could at least prevent any Republican leading states from being stolen because they would likely all sign up.

Also, after the election when every state that accepted the federal system ran smoothly and without issue, it will be clear that the Democratic states did it to themselves when they're finding boxes of votes hidden inside closets at city hall or left abandoned underneath freeway signs. When they're adding votes to Bidens total weeks or claiming Trump needs to be impeached because he defunded the post office and caused this mess they've found themselves in, people will remember that Trump had offered them a way out. They ignored him. They will have a much harder time blaming Trump or stealing trump's win by using states that refused to sign up for a mail in election program that worked everywhere it was used.

Please, get this to the top. We know the Trump Administration lurks. I want it to at least be brought to Trump as an option. I think this is the perfect counter, the only counter, and that it needs to start being put together yesterday.

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Kronder12 2 points ago +2 / -0

Each 5th or 10th envelope would have a GPS trackable chip inserted to help election HQ in DC monitor that the votes are going, from mailboxes to counting stations only. No missing stacks of envelopes.envelopes.

I like the idea in principle but I think any attempt to track with RFIDS would be painted as a nefarious plot by the President to steal the election. They would turn it into a conspiracy theory. Plus, wouldnt the RFIDS only be of use if the envelope actually went through a sorting station. What about all that mail that got "collected" but conveniently never brought to a sorting machine until 2 months after the election?

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doug2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not a tech expert but I would imagine there would be a way to pull this off. I guess it's not really neccessary, if the designated ballot collectors were accompanied by one or two election observers and they each had body cams, and if the trucks also had cameras inside them, and these could all be monitored in real time by US citizens, I doubt much fraud would even be attempted. But above all else it would install a sense of confidence in the process and prevent random ballots from being "found" and "discovered" weeks later. If they did were it would be clear that they didn't follow the process and weren't valid anyway. If they'd been in a mailbox or designated drop box on November 3rd before 10pm they would have been picked up and taken to the vote counting location. The tracking was just extra security really. The main thing is that everyone who wants a ballot needs to go through the process of requesting one and of verifying that the ballot was sent to and received by the right person. This can achieve two things, it would make sure there's much less risk of fraud and confusion, and it would end up making sure turnout is not drastically changed from what it would be by switching to this system.

Also, if you apply online and have to verifying having received your ballot online, the vote counting machine should notify your account whenever your ballot has been counted successfully.

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Kronder12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Also, if you apply online and have to verifying having received your ballot online, the vote counting machine should notify your account whenever your ballot has been counted successfully.

That's actually a great idea. Probably not enough time to make this happen before the election, though

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doug2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of course there is, we just need to make it a priority. Think about it, with the right resources and the right talent putting it into action we would have plenty of time. We would need to get started NOW though.

The federal government has almost infinite resources. We could pull this off. The alternative is each state doing it there own way and gaurenteed chaos.