They want to destroy our country, that's obvious. But you know what else they want? Their goal is to knock us "peasants" back into the pre-industrial times. Only the "nobles" deserve electricity, cars, air and heat.
The green new deal basically bans cars and airplanes for regular people. They don't want people to be able to travel and enjoy their lives because muh climate. We are at the end of an ice age of course the climate is changing you fucktards, now kindly fuck off while I fly to Miami because I work hard and need a vacation.
We’re actually still in the ice age (as evidenced by the fact that there’s any amount of polar ice). This means that one of two things happens in the next few hundred/thousand years with or without human involvement:
we reenter the glacial period. Ice covers everything down to the mid 30 latitudes
we leave the ice age for good. Earth becomes about 10-15C hotter on average. This makes any desert areas a hellscape but opens the possibility of settlements and farming at higher latitudes
Correct. Its amazing how few people know this, yet everyone is a climate expert. No one is denying the climate changes, just that using dubious data collected over the past hundred years max to model geological trends in order to push globalist socialist agendas is utter bullshit.
Their answer to their proclaimed "climate emergency" is the end of capitalism. It's obvious what the replacement for capitalism will be, and commies have been weaponizing environmentalism toward that goal for decades. It's not a coincidence that Earth Day falls on Vladimir Lenin's birthday and that the inaugural Earth Day commemorated what would have been Lenin's 100th birthday.
Miami I can fly in Friday afternoon for a long weekend and stay in a boujjie hotel with a balcony over the beach. If you live there then sure, but I'm not looking to spend any time driving anywhere, I don't have a boat there, and I want to stay somewhere swanky. If I have more time off work I'll go somewhere else.
They want us to live like the Flintstones despite us knowing we can live like the Jetsons by now. The Dem party must be banned completely for America to survive and for America to survive we must thrive. No more state-sanctioned cuckery. We’re playing for keeps
Not necessarily. We would first colonize space at the L5 point. Then set up mining operations with a Mass Driver to deliver to L2. Then keep that up for about a decade or 2. Then mine the asteroids. Once that is going then Mars and any other part of the solar system would be an open board. That could be going on in 2014.
A reference design telephone pole launcher would have the specifications shown below.
Vehicle: Telephone Pole Shaped, Mass of 1,000 kg
Launch Velocity: 12.3 km/s
Velocity at Top of Atmosphere: 11 km/s (escape velocity)
Kinetic Energy at Launch: 76 x 109 joule
Ablation Loss, Carbon Shield: 3% of mass
Energy Loss: 20%
Acceleration: 1,000 gee
Launcher Length: 7.8 km
Launch Duration: 1.26 second
Average Force: 9.8 x 106 newton = 2.2 x 106 pound
Average Power: 60 x 1000000 kilowatts
Charging Time From 1,000 MW Power Plant: 1.5 minute
I did some math with this set up and for $200 BIllion 4-6 sq. miles can have over 8. Each one should be able to send over 960 roughly every 24 hour period if constantly. The ISS has a window operation of 20 minutes. About 5.4 tons or so can be done every hour of constant firing.
I would say just 200 in a 8 hour period per day would do fine. If each were uniform in 1 foot diameter by 30 feet then a structure the size of the Empire state building could be assembled in 1 year. That could be a Space dock.
Add shielding to the ISS to be able to go to Geosynchronous Orbit then that can be expanded into a literal Space Dock like it was originally intended for. That in total could take 5-8 years and that is still within the $200 Billion still. Add $600 Billion for a total of $800 Billion and we can send a small scale Mass Driver on the moon, build the L5 Space Manufacturing Location, Develop Habitats, Creating a Solar furnace, and many other things.
To put this clearly it is not about technology, Physics, or Money anymore. It is SOLELY POLITICS that is keeping this from happening.
They want us living in a government owned 1 room apartment complex while eating bugs and watching government propaganda after working up an appiete running on a giant hamster wheel
Yup, always gotta remember that the world isn't he US and the EU. The reality is that if the United States or EU purposefully cripples themselves, a new world power will take its place, and it's not going to be the NWO. It's going to be some totalitarian communist country who will treat the rest of the world like cattle.
Russia and China bought all the reserve assets of Venezuela, which are said to be the largest in the world. They will openly exploit them when they feel they can get away with having a military presence there, I.e. when/if we are weak enough to allow that.
I cant imagine why else they'd want to weaken our country like this. It honestly baffles me. For decades they've destroyed our manufacturing ability and now they want to completely cripple our oil industry and put some of the hardest working people on food lines. Attacking manufacturing and oil workers would put some of the toughest Americans I've ever met out of work.
Yep, this move seems more to do with geopolitics than with "green" energy. We need America 100% dependent on foreign countries not only for ALL manufacturing, but now for ALL its energy needs, in order to make it impotent on the world stage going forward.
Sure, what could possibly go wrong with being at the mercy of the rest of the world for our energy needs?
China could already shut our country down just by cutting off all the manufacturing they do for us. Now imagine if they could cut off our energy too. There would be no need to go to war all theyd have to do is cut us off and wait til we meet their demands.
This is the complete opposite of what we need to do as a country. Bring back all manufacturing so we can be independent when the world goes to shit. Already saw a glimpse of how this would work when early in the Wuhan flu outbreak there were reports of China threatening to cut off our supply of prescription drugs.
There is no reason we should put America in a position to be held hostage by the demands of foreign nations because we have become incapable of meeting our own needs.
It's not just energy. We use oil and oil-derived products for lubricants, plastics, millions of things - and all of them have jobs and companies attached to them.
I'M JOE BIDEN AND I'M GOING TO BEAT JOE BIDEN SO VOTE FOR ME!
I WILL DISARM YOU, REMOVE YOUR POLICE TO ENDANGER YOU, WRAP YOUR FACE IN A MASK TO CONTROL YOU, CLOSE YOUR BUSINESSES AND TRIPLE YOUR TAXES TO IMPOVERISH YOU, AND RELEASE VIOLENT FELONS TO RAPE AND KILL YOU!
::looks around for ten awkward seconds, slack-jawed, drooling, deer in headlights::
WHA? WHERE'D EVERYBODY GO?
OH, THAT'S JUST THE SIZE OF THE RALLY HERE IN OHIO...
IOWA? OH. SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID IDAHO...IHHH...NEVER MIND
Anybody remember that Soros shorts currency? If Biden wins the stock market will be cut in half, the dollar will crash and a bunch of smooth brains will figure out why Soros spent so much money here
Do these people have any idea how much that would fuck us on the international stage??? We'd be as vulnerable to energy embargoes as the EU is. This would knock us to our knees when it comes to dealing with the Middle East and we'd be at the complete beck and call of Saudi Arabia and Iran
Hardly anyone realizes that the dollar is directly tied to oil. As soon as the US stops producing oil is when the dollar hits rock bottom. Look up petrodollar and it's effect on the worldwide economy, then ask yourself why do they want to get rid of oil?
These 'green' policies are just a trick to get us back dependent on foreign oil so they can start the war machine back up.
Trump jas proven how quickly peace can be achieved of we are energy independent.
And if you truly care about the environment, its better to have energy production in the USA where legitimate regulations can be enforced rather than outsourcing pollution and slavery to third world countries
They probably want to go nation building in an oil rich country and and need an energy crisis to do so. The elite only care about the environment if it is in their backyard.
To Leftists, “if protecting Mother Gaia” means obliterating millions of jobs and ruining entire families, there’s no question how they’ll vote. The Left doesn’t look at grey. EVERYTHING is black and white. Consequences be damned. Facts be damned. Only feelings matter.
Lets see...Ukraine...Ukraine...Ukraine...any other countries? Oh, yes, Ukraine...
But, we'd have to make sure there were some really smart guys on Board of Directors of those oil companies...does anybody know of anybody on one of those boards?
10$/gallon gas. Think about that. Your household budget having to absorb 10$/gal gas. That means the $40 you're spending to fill the tank becomes 160$. Money has to come from somewhere. Last time I financed my gas thru Discover. 9/11-2016 fiasco, Congress not having the balls to get Big Oil off the dime. Took President Trump to bring those prices down. Getting out the M/E, Getting the drilling independents moving, etc. Elect Sen Biden, those days are gone. Economy won't recover for decades.
Believe it or not, Teslas are made with parts that are petroleum derivatives. Just like iPhones. Just like every fucking thing you come into contact with on a daily basis. Liberals are so fucking stupid that they forget every product they covet is likely comprised of parts that are oil-based.
We're in the age of plastics, instead of coal and steel keeping the world turning like it was during the Victorian age until the 60's it's oil and plastic.
The West Coast alone has a daily, DAILY demand of millions of bbls of oil. Keep in mind these are the same people trying to ban pipelines - which are by far the safest form of energy transfer.
Oh, they'd still be drilling for oil.. just not American companies. Foreign companies would take over and our gas prices would shoot up to $10 a gallon minimum. All other countries who happen to have lots of oil .. happen to be not so friendly with us. On top of this, aAll US global business would cease to have any competitive edge, the price of literally every product sold in the US would skyrocket, jobs would diminish, wages would fall, and our economy would go to absolute shit. It would be The Great Depression II.
A lot of oil companies buy the leases to drill on Federal Lands, but have no plans to drill there. They just need to block the competition. Prices are too low to be profitable to explore and drill right now.
Yes, because relying on other countries for oil works out so great for us. Just what I need. $5 a gallon after buying a new truck...Trump is the best for U.S wallets in every way.
They want to destroy our country, that's obvious. But you know what else they want? Their goal is to knock us "peasants" back into the pre-industrial times. Only the "nobles" deserve electricity, cars, air and heat.
The green new deal basically bans cars and airplanes for regular people. They don't want people to be able to travel and enjoy their lives because muh climate. We are at the end of an ice age of course the climate is changing you fucktards, now kindly fuck off while I fly to Miami because I work hard and need a vacation.
We’re actually still in the ice age (as evidenced by the fact that there’s any amount of polar ice). This means that one of two things happens in the next few hundred/thousand years with or without human involvement:
we reenter the glacial period. Ice covers everything down to the mid 30 latitudes
we leave the ice age for good. Earth becomes about 10-15C hotter on average. This makes any desert areas a hellscape but opens the possibility of settlements and farming at higher latitudes
Correct. Its amazing how few people know this, yet everyone is a climate expert. No one is denying the climate changes, just that using dubious data collected over the past hundred years max to model geological trends in order to push globalist socialist agendas is utter bullshit.
This site has predictions listed with sources and a timer. TL;DR: they've been predicting wrong for decades
Aw man, I'm not even going to be alive to see the Emperor Penguins one debunked :(
Their answer to their proclaimed "climate emergency" is the end of capitalism. It's obvious what the replacement for capitalism will be, and commies have been weaponizing environmentalism toward that goal for decades. It's not a coincidence that Earth Day falls on Vladimir Lenin's birthday and that the inaugural Earth Day commemorated what would have been Lenin's 100th birthday.
Yep, the entire "climate change" hoax is just another giant globohomo racket.
Why the hell would you go to Miami for a vacation? Lmfao
/lifelong Floridian
Cuz I like to party
/Floridian for most of my 20's who has since moved back North
Obviously you've never been on the Keys.
Miami is a third world country.
Miami I can fly in Friday afternoon for a long weekend and stay in a boujjie hotel with a balcony over the beach. If you live there then sure, but I'm not looking to spend any time driving anywhere, I don't have a boat there, and I want to stay somewhere swanky. If I have more time off work I'll go somewhere else.
Can do the same in Key West. It's a nice change.
It is nice but its nearly impossible to get to and to find a decent hotel for a quick weekend getaway. Miami I can book last minute and go
They want us to live like the Flintstones despite us knowing we can live like the Jetsons by now. The Dem party must be banned completely for America to survive and for America to survive we must thrive. No more state-sanctioned cuckery. We’re playing for keeps
If there were no Democrats, we'd have colonized Mars by now.
I believe that whole-heartedly as well
Libshit Cuck Nixon ruined the space program.
Not necessarily. We would first colonize space at the L5 point. Then set up mining operations with a Mass Driver to deliver to L2. Then keep that up for about a decade or 2. Then mine the asteroids. Once that is going then Mars and any other part of the solar system would be an open board. That could be going on in 2014.
https://space.nss.org/l5-news-mass-driver-update/
I did some math with this set up and for $200 BIllion 4-6 sq. miles can have over 8. Each one should be able to send over 960 roughly every 24 hour period if constantly. The ISS has a window operation of 20 minutes. About 5.4 tons or so can be done every hour of constant firing.
I would say just 200 in a 8 hour period per day would do fine. If each were uniform in 1 foot diameter by 30 feet then a structure the size of the Empire state building could be assembled in 1 year. That could be a Space dock.
Add shielding to the ISS to be able to go to Geosynchronous Orbit then that can be expanded into a literal Space Dock like it was originally intended for. That in total could take 5-8 years and that is still within the $200 Billion still. Add $600 Billion for a total of $800 Billion and we can send a small scale Mass Driver on the moon, build the L5 Space Manufacturing Location, Develop Habitats, Creating a Solar furnace, and many other things.
To put this clearly it is not about technology, Physics, or Money anymore. It is SOLELY POLITICS that is keeping this from happening.
Extremely accurate. They want us back on horse and buggies, without the buggies
They want us living in a government owned 1 room apartment complex while eating bugs and watching government propaganda after working up an appiete running on a giant hamster wheel
*Destroy US production.
Russia will continue to produce, so will Venezuela, and China will continue to rape Africa for resources.
This has nothing to do with oil, and everything to do with destroying the US.
Yup, always gotta remember that the world isn't he US and the EU. The reality is that if the United States or EU purposefully cripples themselves, a new world power will take its place, and it's not going to be the NWO. It's going to be some totalitarian communist country who will treat the rest of the world like cattle.
Sounds like a good time to learn chinese and make yourself a valuable and skilled worker.
Correct
WHY WONT CHINA AND INDIA, WHO CREATE 80 PERCENT OF THE WORLDS POLUTION DO ANYTHING?
Don't forget natural gas from the Ukraine.
lol venezuela. Produce endless stacks of valueless dollar bills maybe
Russia and China bought all the reserve assets of Venezuela, which are said to be the largest in the world. They will openly exploit them when they feel they can get away with having a military presence there, I.e. when/if we are weak enough to allow that.
I cant imagine why else they'd want to weaken our country like this. It honestly baffles me. For decades they've destroyed our manufacturing ability and now they want to completely cripple our oil industry and put some of the hardest working people on food lines. Attacking manufacturing and oil workers would put some of the toughest Americans I've ever met out of work.
Because they're getting paid by China, batteries batteries.
They want to keep us poor and desperate so we are dependant on them and their handouts
Because feelings > facts for that crowd.
Also they don't care about taxes or jobs when they don't work or pay taxes.
You'll love paying $10/gallon for gas! Everyone buy a Tesla!
But just like in Canada importing oil from half way around the planet will be A-OK👍
Yep, this move seems more to do with geopolitics than with "green" energy. We need America 100% dependent on foreign countries not only for ALL manufacturing, but now for ALL its energy needs, in order to make it impotent on the world stage going forward.
Absolutely this. Our Independence from foreign energy and our own manufacturing is crucial for geopolitical peace
As long as it comes from a country they approve of because they have large stakes in ownership or connections with the company in some way.
The rolling blackouts in California are a sneak peek into what your life will be like under those two.
California as a whole is a glaring preview of what they want to bring the entire country down to.
Ok, and replace oil with what? Oil imported from elsewhere?
Nailed it. That way they get to claim "were carbon neutral" even though they just outsourced the pollution to a poor country.
Then they will give them billions of our taxpayer dollars to "help them fight climate change," like the Paris Agreement called for
I think that is essentially the idea. Except it obviously leaves millions unemployed domestically on "green energy" that is impossible to achieve.
What, you want your country to be economically and politically independent from Saudi Arabia?
Are you islamophobic?
Oh lovely, rolling blackouts in Phoenix during the summer, where we've got 3-4 months of 110F heat.
Sure, what could possibly go wrong with being at the mercy of the rest of the world for our energy needs?
China could already shut our country down just by cutting off all the manufacturing they do for us. Now imagine if they could cut off our energy too. There would be no need to go to war all theyd have to do is cut us off and wait til we meet their demands.
This is the complete opposite of what we need to do as a country. Bring back all manufacturing so we can be independent when the world goes to shit. Already saw a glimpse of how this would work when early in the Wuhan flu outbreak there were reports of China threatening to cut off our supply of prescription drugs.
There is no reason we should put America in a position to be held hostage by the demands of foreign nations because we have become incapable of meeting our own needs.
It's not just energy. We use oil and oil-derived products for lubricants, plastics, millions of things - and all of them have jobs and companies attached to them.
Does anyone here remember 2008/2009?
I do.
I remember when gas went north of $4 per gallon
No one sane wants that.
At least... no one who actually loves America wants that...
I'M JOE BIDEN AND I'M GOING TO BEAT JOE BIDEN SO VOTE FOR ME!
I WILL DISARM YOU, REMOVE YOUR POLICE TO ENDANGER YOU, WRAP YOUR FACE IN A MASK TO CONTROL YOU, CLOSE YOUR BUSINESSES AND TRIPLE YOUR TAXES TO IMPOVERISH YOU, AND RELEASE VIOLENT FELONS TO RAPE AND KILL YOU!
::looks around for ten awkward seconds, slack-jawed, drooling, deer in headlights::
WHA? WHERE'D EVERYBODY GO?
OH, THAT'S JUST THE SIZE OF THE RALLY HERE IN OHIO...
IOWA? OH. SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID IDAHO...IHHH...NEVER MIND
::deadpan straight face::
THAT WAS A JOKE. A JOKE. HA-
::waits for teleprompter::
HA.
So Joe laid out his plan to make us dependent on foreign oil, enrich Arabs and cripple the US economy with sky high fuel prices.
Anybody remember that Soros shorts currency? If Biden wins the stock market will be cut in half, the dollar will crash and a bunch of smooth brains will figure out why Soros spent so much money here
Do these people have any idea how much that would fuck us on the international stage??? We'd be as vulnerable to energy embargoes as the EU is. This would knock us to our knees when it comes to dealing with the Middle East and we'd be at the complete beck and call of Saudi Arabia and Iran
Hardly anyone realizes that the dollar is directly tied to oil. As soon as the US stops producing oil is when the dollar hits rock bottom. Look up petrodollar and it's effect on the worldwide economy, then ask yourself why do they want to get rid of oil?
Secondary goal (maybe primary) here is also getting us re-entangled in the foreign affairs Trump is finally pulling us out of.
Who in their right mind thinks this is good policy? "LeTs DePeNd On MuSliMs FoR GaS!!"
I work in aerospace and I can’t afford to have a Democrat in office!!
Having such a strong domestic energy policy allows the US to disengage from the Middle East. Literally ending wars.
These 'green' policies are just a trick to get us back dependent on foreign oil so they can start the war machine back up.
Trump jas proven how quickly peace can be achieved of we are energy independent.
And if you truly care about the environment, its better to have energy production in the USA where legitimate regulations can be enforced rather than outsourcing pollution and slavery to third world countries
This is useless. We don't need convincing, and "they" think this "iS a gOoD tHiNg!"
They probably want to go nation building in an oil rich country and and need an energy crisis to do so. The elite only care about the environment if it is in their backyard.
We stop drilling and other oil producers increase production. All we'd accomplish is lowering our GDP, increasing unemployment, and increase imports.
To Leftists, “if protecting Mother Gaia” means obliterating millions of jobs and ruining entire families, there’s no question how they’ll vote. The Left doesn’t look at grey. EVERYTHING is black and white. Consequences be damned. Facts be damned. Only feelings matter.
*Destroy US production.
Russia will continue to produce, so will Venezuela, and China will continue to rape Africa for resources.
This has nothing to do with oil, and everything to do with destroying the US.
Hmm..where would we get our oil from then???
Lets see...Ukraine...Ukraine...Ukraine...any other countries? Oh, yes, Ukraine...
But, we'd have to make sure there were some really smart guys on Board of Directors of those oil companies...does anybody know of anybody on one of those boards?
So literally we become Venezuela? We would be forced to Import oil from Russia, because solar and wind power requires gas power plant back-up.
An entire sector of American business would disappear in a day or two. It would be the greatest crash the market has ever seen.
10$/gallon gas. Think about that. Your household budget having to absorb 10$/gal gas. That means the $40 you're spending to fill the tank becomes 160$. Money has to come from somewhere. Last time I financed my gas thru Discover. 9/11-2016 fiasco, Congress not having the balls to get Big Oil off the dime. Took President Trump to bring those prices down. Getting out the M/E, Getting the drilling independents moving, etc. Elect Sen Biden, those days are gone. Economy won't recover for decades.
This. They want gas prices to be EU levels so they can tax you and deem driving a luxury
"Rolling blackout has entered the chat."
That’s because they are backed by oil rich country mullahs.
This is the dumbest thing you can say if you want To win blue collar workers’ votes. As dumb as Hillary’s quote about putting coal miners out of work.
This is their strategy to flip Texas and Louisiana.
The promises are (hopefully) fake...
Like Obama bringing peace and closing Gitmo
The only drilling would be Heals up Harris
ANd then they will have parties with crude oil fountains
The only ones would (mostly) be unaffected, are Tesla owners, which of course happens to be most liberals.
No more huge powerful Ford-F150 pickup trucks waving the American/Confederate flags while driving.
Would hazard a guess majority of Teslas are powered by natural gas, so no
They want us on busses and trains and bikes. Only the party elite will drive since it'll be labeled a privilege.
Believe it or not, Teslas are made with parts that are petroleum derivatives. Just like iPhones. Just like every fucking thing you come into contact with on a daily basis. Liberals are so fucking stupid that they forget every product they covet is likely comprised of parts that are oil-based.
We're in the age of plastics, instead of coal and steel keeping the world turning like it was during the Victorian age until the 60's it's oil and plastic.
The West Coast alone has a daily, DAILY demand of millions of bbls of oil. Keep in mind these are the same people trying to ban pipelines - which are by far the safest form of energy transfer.
Yet Houston will still vote for Biden.
Hey! More government regulation, less freedom, more taxes, and your nation continues to be turned into the third world! Soooo appealing!
Oh, they'd still be drilling for oil.. just not American companies. Foreign companies would take over and our gas prices would shoot up to $10 a gallon minimum. All other countries who happen to have lots of oil .. happen to be not so friendly with us. On top of this, aAll US global business would cease to have any competitive edge, the price of literally every product sold in the US would skyrocket, jobs would diminish, wages would fall, and our economy would go to absolute shit. It would be The Great Depression II.
New Democrat Motto: Make Depression Great Again!
Not interested in stopping oil drilling abroad, though. Just us.
How is that going to lower gas prices?
A lot of oil companies buy the leases to drill on Federal Lands, but have no plans to drill there. They just need to block the competition. Prices are too low to be profitable to explore and drill right now.
Yes, because relying on other countries for oil works out so great for us. Just what I need. $5 a gallon after buying a new truck...Trump is the best for U.S wallets in every way.