I think the ppk design, although almost 100 years old, is still superior to the glock. It’s got major safety features built in. DA/SA is far safer than glock’s absurd trigger safety, and the external safety decocker is a second means of preventing accidental discharge. Best modern handgun IMO, the beretta 92x/m9a3, has both the same safety features. To S&W’s credit, they added external safeties to their striker pistols, unlike glock. 1911’s are awesome but 9 mm’s have been shown to be more accurate for the average shooter due to lower recoil. An enhanced 1911 in 9 mm would probably be just as good or better than the beretta. Heavier guns absorb recoil better, so a polymer gun has another strike against it, not to mention that polymer frames can melt or be chewed up by dogs, etc. there’s probably a niche right now for polymer frame DA/SA pistols with external safeties that look awesome like the ppk and m9 but manufacturers seem to have gone lock stock and barrel into strikers.
I used to work at an indoor pistol range and over 50% of the ND's that happened during my time there were glocks. The last one i recall went through the counter a bit down from the register, so we stuck a wooden dowel with a sign on it that said "Cops: 13 Civilians: 4".
Some of the more memorable cop ND's involved one having his sidearm go off when he adjusted his holster while sitting on the couch in the lobby watching TV. Round went through the couch, skipped off the floor, down the hall, and took out the vending machine. That one missed me by about 2 feet. Had another go off next to me where i ended up drawing on the cop and kicking him out.
Have you ever shot a PPK in 380?
Nasty little gun. Difficult to shoot fast and accurate.
Try it on the clock sometime at an IDPA practice.
I don’t like Glocks, but they like me. The clock doesn’t lie. I’m faster and more accurate and faster split times for follow up shots with my Glock 19 than anything else.
I have run many modern (and some vintage) autoloaders on the clock and it’s no contest.
CZ, S&W, 1911s, Ruger, Sigs, Walther... love ‘em all but the old tactical Tupperware is king for me.
At the competition level, sure, but when you’re talking concealed carry you want smaller stature, ruggedness, sights that won’t snag, robust safety features, and accuracy. Ppk checks the concealed carry boxes pretty well. Beretta 92 would be just as fast and accurate as a Glock but with better safety features, IMO. And yeah, I have shot a ppk/s, if that counts. Earlier today, in fact. Recoil isn’t bad but it can bite you if you hold it wrong.
Get a shot timer and draw from your concealed carry and put shots on target.
You gonna conceal carry a Beretta 92? Someone might but it is way big to appendix.
If you have never done real world dynamic training on the clock, (not an indoor range) I can’t stress enough how much that changes your perspective on what makes a good carry gun.
1.5 seconds draw from conceal to first shot clean A zone hit @ 7 yards is my benchmark.
I’ve carried concealed for nearly 15 years and with drawers full of every holster design you can think of I’ve pretty much tried it all.
Appendix carry a Glock 19 for the past 2 years and I’ve never been more confident.
Beretta 92 comes in three sizes: full, centurion and compact. It’s got DA/SA and an external safety decocker, making it among the safest of pistols. I’d trade a little more weight which just reduces perceived recoil to get those safety features and all metal construction. Capacity and accuracy are the same, I think. There are some top experts running the beretta, too. Supposedly it’s capable of three inch groups at 50 yards in capable hands. Glock certainly has the cool factor but so does beretta, I think. I looked closely at most of the options out there and I think beretta has most to offer and can serve you well from beginner to expert. Due to its firing mechanism and balance it also reduces limp wristing, which is nice for beginners.
I own a ruger LCP .380 and I've put 1000+ rounds through it. I can draw and put a torso hit at 7 yards in under 1.5 seconds. Whatever you decide to carry, you just have to practice with it.
I think the ppk design, although almost 100 years old, is still superior to the glock. It’s got major safety features built in. DA/SA is far safer than glock’s absurd trigger safety, and the external safety decocker is a second means of preventing accidental discharge. Best modern handgun IMO, the beretta 92x/m9a3, has both the same safety features. To S&W’s credit, they added external safeties to their striker pistols, unlike glock. 1911’s are awesome but 9 mm’s have been shown to be more accurate for the average shooter due to lower recoil. An enhanced 1911 in 9 mm would probably be just as good or better than the beretta. Heavier guns absorb recoil better, so a polymer gun has another strike against it, not to mention that polymer frames can melt or be chewed up by dogs, etc. there’s probably a niche right now for polymer frame DA/SA pistols with external safeties that look awesome like the ppk and m9 but manufacturers seem to have gone lock stock and barrel into strikers.
I used to work at an indoor pistol range and over 50% of the ND's that happened during my time there were glocks. The last one i recall went through the counter a bit down from the register, so we stuck a wooden dowel with a sign on it that said "Cops: 13 Civilians: 4".
Some of the more memorable cop ND's involved one having his sidearm go off when he adjusted his holster while sitting on the couch in the lobby watching TV. Round went through the couch, skipped off the floor, down the hall, and took out the vending machine. That one missed me by about 2 feet. Had another go off next to me where i ended up drawing on the cop and kicking him out.
How’d that cop pull his trigger just by adjusting his holster? Hopefully he got a different service pistol after that.
If one of those three is between your ears, the same can be said of every gun.
Have you ever shot a PPK in 380? Nasty little gun. Difficult to shoot fast and accurate. Try it on the clock sometime at an IDPA practice. I don’t like Glocks, but they like me. The clock doesn’t lie. I’m faster and more accurate and faster split times for follow up shots with my Glock 19 than anything else. I have run many modern (and some vintage) autoloaders on the clock and it’s no contest. CZ, S&W, 1911s, Ruger, Sigs, Walther... love ‘em all but the old tactical Tupperware is king for me.
At the competition level, sure, but when you’re talking concealed carry you want smaller stature, ruggedness, sights that won’t snag, robust safety features, and accuracy. Ppk checks the concealed carry boxes pretty well. Beretta 92 would be just as fast and accurate as a Glock but with better safety features, IMO. And yeah, I have shot a ppk/s, if that counts. Earlier today, in fact. Recoil isn’t bad but it can bite you if you hold it wrong.
Not talking about competition.
Get a shot timer and draw from your concealed carry and put shots on target. You gonna conceal carry a Beretta 92? Someone might but it is way big to appendix.
If you have never done real world dynamic training on the clock, (not an indoor range) I can’t stress enough how much that changes your perspective on what makes a good carry gun. 1.5 seconds draw from conceal to first shot clean A zone hit @ 7 yards is my benchmark.
I’ve carried concealed for nearly 15 years and with drawers full of every holster design you can think of I’ve pretty much tried it all.
Appendix carry a Glock 19 for the past 2 years and I’ve never been more confident.
Beretta 92 comes in three sizes: full, centurion and compact. It’s got DA/SA and an external safety decocker, making it among the safest of pistols. I’d trade a little more weight which just reduces perceived recoil to get those safety features and all metal construction. Capacity and accuracy are the same, I think. There are some top experts running the beretta, too. Supposedly it’s capable of three inch groups at 50 yards in capable hands. Glock certainly has the cool factor but so does beretta, I think. I looked closely at most of the options out there and I think beretta has most to offer and can serve you well from beginner to expert. Due to its firing mechanism and balance it also reduces limp wristing, which is nice for beginners.
I own a ruger LCP .380 and I've put 1000+ rounds through it. I can draw and put a torso hit at 7 yards in under 1.5 seconds. Whatever you decide to carry, you just have to practice with it.