Man i am sure I will get some shit from this but... Here we go.
I am a teacher, I am in "class rooms" all day. I teach and am in classrooms of everything from Gen Ed students to Special Ed students. Now, let me be very clear here; there are a ton of cunts at my work that will undoubtedly spread some racist anti white bullshit, and fuck them.
HOWEVER in defense of the statement "parents leave us alone" I can tell you from multiple first hand accounts there is a good reason for it. That being the following:
I have seen a parent interrupt a teacher to correct them (and the parent was wrong) in front of 30+ students.
I have seen parents think they were slick and gave answers to their kids during a test.
I had a parent have a business meeting less than 10 feet away from the kid, we heard everything. I am pretty sure they violated company policy with the shit they said effectively "in public".
i had a parent interrupt our class by barging into a students room scolding them for not doing their chores.
I have had a parent use my 90 minutes of teaching to try and have a parent / teacher conference with a teacher in the middle of a lesson, ironically violating FERPA protections in the process.
The point is; many parents have the mind set of 'my house, my rules' and do not understand that these kids arent on their computers playing games or watching youtube and frankly the parents do not respect teachers enough to even consider they are effectively walking into a classroom a d shouting. Something they would yell at their kids for doing to them if they were in a business meeting on the phone. BuT iTs dIfFeReNt! ThIs iS mY hOuSE, I PaYeD fOr iT, I cAN dO wHaT I wAnT!
It is very difficult to teach over 120 students with 200 parents lurking around interrupting, interjecting, cheating, talking on the phone behind the student, etc. It disrupts me, my teachers, and the other 29 students.
Hopefully that can give people a perspective to understand that we, just as much as the students, want to just buckle down and get through this crap. That is why we ask the parents respect our boundaries and let us do our jobs.
Bring on the downvotes. I try my best to stay politically neutral in my job because it is the ethically correct thing to do.
Edit: The down votes are from people who have never been interrupted in the middle of a business meeting, to which their opinion would immediately flip lol.
Not that those dumbass parents are right, but most of that can be solved through proper meeting settings.
Eg not giving participants the option to mute/unmute themselves, you can set up Zoom and as far as i know nearly every virtual meeting software, so only the host can control that. Then if you require participation have students use the raise hand feature or simply ask in chat. Then the teach can approve the transmission.
I took the last semester online and it was hilarious the lengths teachers went to making their own lives harder because they didnt know how or what settings were available to them using Zoom or Canvas.
I agree. I am an IT staffer who assists specifically the sped department. I more than most knows the idiocy of my staff, however, I am not in charge enough to do the bbultra class meetings. Otherwise it would be very locked down. Some staff are okay, most are not. Either way, the parents are ignorant folks who do not recognize the situation for what it is.
If this is the case, I'm sure these teachers, advocating for parents to not sit in on sessions, wouldn't mind recording the sessions or letting parents record the sessions for viewing later? I mean, if they have nothing to hide, this doesn't seem unreasonable. I'm sure your reasons for not wanting parents present are about as valid as the reasons why some parents want to be present.
All lessons should be recorded for the students review. But yes, i agree. As long as they aren't interrupting idgaf if it is recorded and available for review later.
Those are some very interesting scenarios you pointed out there, most of which were probably not considered by most. And, yes, people can be very inconsiderate, rude, selfish, stupid and unhinged at the worst possible times, especially during August heat and virus lockdown.
yeah as long as you don't mind government folks coming to your house for "wellness checks" about your kids
Well, they backtracked on that. But they still have school districts demanding that parents don't watch their remote learning zooms.
Man i am sure I will get some shit from this but... Here we go.
I am a teacher, I am in "class rooms" all day. I teach and am in classrooms of everything from Gen Ed students to Special Ed students. Now, let me be very clear here; there are a ton of cunts at my work that will undoubtedly spread some racist anti white bullshit, and fuck them.
HOWEVER in defense of the statement "parents leave us alone" I can tell you from multiple first hand accounts there is a good reason for it. That being the following:
I have seen a parent interrupt a teacher to correct them (and the parent was wrong) in front of 30+ students.
I have seen parents think they were slick and gave answers to their kids during a test.
I had a parent have a business meeting less than 10 feet away from the kid, we heard everything. I am pretty sure they violated company policy with the shit they said effectively "in public".
i had a parent interrupt our class by barging into a students room scolding them for not doing their chores.
I have had a parent use my 90 minutes of teaching to try and have a parent / teacher conference with a teacher in the middle of a lesson, ironically violating FERPA protections in the process.
The point is; many parents have the mind set of 'my house, my rules' and do not understand that these kids arent on their computers playing games or watching youtube and frankly the parents do not respect teachers enough to even consider they are effectively walking into a classroom a d shouting. Something they would yell at their kids for doing to them if they were in a business meeting on the phone. BuT iTs dIfFeReNt! ThIs iS mY hOuSE, I PaYeD fOr iT, I cAN dO wHaT I wAnT!
It is very difficult to teach over 120 students with 200 parents lurking around interrupting, interjecting, cheating, talking on the phone behind the student, etc. It disrupts me, my teachers, and the other 29 students.
Hopefully that can give people a perspective to understand that we, just as much as the students, want to just buckle down and get through this crap. That is why we ask the parents respect our boundaries and let us do our jobs.
Bring on the downvotes. I try my best to stay politically neutral in my job because it is the ethically correct thing to do.
Edit: The down votes are from people who have never been interrupted in the middle of a business meeting, to which their opinion would immediately flip lol.
Not that those dumbass parents are right, but most of that can be solved through proper meeting settings.
Eg not giving participants the option to mute/unmute themselves, you can set up Zoom and as far as i know nearly every virtual meeting software, so only the host can control that. Then if you require participation have students use the raise hand feature or simply ask in chat. Then the teach can approve the transmission.
I took the last semester online and it was hilarious the lengths teachers went to making their own lives harder because they didnt know how or what settings were available to them using Zoom or Canvas.
I agree. I am an IT staffer who assists specifically the sped department. I more than most knows the idiocy of my staff, however, I am not in charge enough to do the bbultra class meetings. Otherwise it would be very locked down. Some staff are okay, most are not. Either way, the parents are ignorant folks who do not recognize the situation for what it is.
If this is the case, I'm sure these teachers, advocating for parents to not sit in on sessions, wouldn't mind recording the sessions or letting parents record the sessions for viewing later? I mean, if they have nothing to hide, this doesn't seem unreasonable. I'm sure your reasons for not wanting parents present are about as valid as the reasons why some parents want to be present.
All lessons should be recorded for the students review. But yes, i agree. As long as they aren't interrupting idgaf if it is recorded and available for review later.
Those are some very interesting scenarios you pointed out there, most of which were probably not considered by most. And, yes, people can be very inconsiderate, rude, selfish, stupid and unhinged at the worst possible times, especially during August heat and virus lockdown.
You, like some of the actual teachers I know, teach.
However, I'm all for a parent or parents quietly sitting through the class instruction - as long as no interruptions occur.
Any objections or opinions can be made afterward.
you mean asking about how many guns you have in the house?