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posted ago by AtomicShnoz ago by AtomicShnoz +23 / -0

Convalescent plasma is a form of vaccination. you get it when you are healthy. It doesn't matter what they treat you with when you are already dying. Our health system is killing people because they are purely reactionary so they can stay under the umbrella of legal protection from lawsuits, and ensure government payouts for following protocols devised by government agecncies.

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Deplora 8 points ago +8 / -0

Convalescent plasma is a form of vaccination. you get it when you are healthy.

You are very confused.

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AtomicShnoz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Passive immunisation (PI) for the prevention and treatment of human infectious diseases and its related concept of artificially acquired passive immunity can be traced back to the 20th century, when specific antibodies were sought from serum of stimulated animals (especially rabbits and horses). Human blood was also identified as a source of antibodies1,2. PI is a technique to achieve immediate short-term immunisation against infectious agents by administering pathogen-specific antibodies. Since its introduction, it has proven to be lifesaving for many acute infections and, more recently, has also shown possible applications in cancer therapy1,3. Although antibiotics have largely supplanted the use of PI in bacterial infections, it remains an important tool in the treatment of many viral infections when vaccines or other specific treatments are not available.

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Deplora 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're still very confused. Nobody is giving COVID-19 convalescent plasma to people who aren't seriously ill with confirmed COVID-19 infection.

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AZpede 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hey, Atomic Shnoz, 35% reduction in mortality does not mean EVERYONE survives, it means 35% FEWER people die. This is a huge advancement in treatment options. The current number of deceased from COVID-19 in the US is 176K. Had the convalescent serum treatment been available at the beginning of the pandemic then 61,600 (35%) of the people who succumbed to the CHYNA virus would still be with us.

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keepwinning 1 point ago +1 / -0

Correct. This is all additive.

Early treatment with hcq and zinc and z pack reduces by ~40%+?

Nebulized steroid by ~80%?

Plasma by 35%?

people will still die but give the doctors treatment options EARLY before stage 2 of this disease kicks in and survivability rates improve tremendously.

The reason mortality had improved 85% in the USA since Caumo is from the above treatments imo.

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elsabio 4 points ago +4 / -0

Link, please.

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AtomicShnoz [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

to what?

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elsabio 2 points ago +2 / -0

You know something. We are expected to believe it?

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Bonles 3 points ago +4 / -1

Covalescent plasma is blood donated by people who've had vivid 19 recovered so they have antibodies when you get it.

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Panda 3 points ago +4 / -1

How old were they How sick were they

You need a semi active immune system for any treatment to work.

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AtomicShnoz [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

61yrs old perfectly healthy.

My point exactly you get it before you are dying. Same with HCQ+Z. After you are dying and on a ventilator nothing is going to work. Hospitals are only treating people after they present with pneumonia.

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keepwinning 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's insanity. Take a test, get positive result. Go home and do nothing. if you can't breathe, go to the ICU and maybe get lucky with a ventilator

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kd5ywa 2 points ago +2 / -0

So, how do they differentiate Covid-19 anti-bodies from, say, certain cold anti-bodies?

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AtomicShnoz [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE HOSPITALS ARE NOT GIVING THE TREATMENTS WHEN NEEDED. YOU NEED TO GET THE PLASMA OR HCQ+Z WITHING THE FIRST WEEK. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE TREATMENT IS THE LAWYERS ARE STILL FUCKING UP THE ADMINSTRATION

RIP KERRY CROSWHITE https://www.eastvalleytribune.com/sports/chandler-swim-coach-loses-life-to-covid-19/article_b5fc012a-cbd3-11ea-8c00-2b1215aecc5e.html