The cops lawyers asked for the charges to be dropped 6 days ago citing the fact the cause of death was a drug overdose. So the judge can do it anytime.
Granted I doubt it will be anywhere around the time of the election. "Social injustice" might get them a few more votes but massive protests, violence, and riots would drive more right leaning and true moderates to the Republicans. All while making inner city Democrat strongholds a complete mess for voting while conservative suburbs and rural areas vote in mass with no issue.
I'm also pretty sure that they did let the beast out of its cage intentionally but they lost control of it. They're not going to provoke it again if they can help it. Vast majority of them just gave the Republicans the best chance to take back major cities since the civil war. They'll only make it worse for them.
Eh, I'm thinking it'll either be early September or it'll be inauguration day 2021. They can't beat Trump but wouldn't put it past them to step up the riots as he's sworn in for his second term.
The scary thought. This could prevent in-person voting. Most of "us" will be doing in person, i plan to. So the dems win the mail in, even without overt mail in cheating.
I think it's at the point where with a lot of these people in their broken minds it's an atrocity that there was even a trial and that he wasn't immediately executed in public.
They definitely should have investigated but they did rush to press charges. However, I believe that was under public pressure. Those threats would not have gone away either way.
You're dealing with terrorists and they made a mistake in the first place negotiating with them. It's like feeding the stray in your back garden. You'll be sure to see it again. You're going to have a hell of a time getting rid of it.
In the UK we have a very problematic legal tradition that still impacts law of simply keeping the peace. If you have an oppressive rule or a reasonable population then it can work well. A reasonable population doesn't become restless without good reason.
What you have here is an unreasonable population. You can't fall into the trap of "keeping the peace". You have to stand up to them and use greater force, whatever is necessary, even if you end up having to so to speak brutally put down a peasant uprising.
Rule is rule, you have to protect it at the end of the day. Be it about keeping the peace or upholding the law (maintaining justice).
This is deliberate. In their calculations it damages Trump. Either there's a crack down and ultimately it gets brutal then they try to call like he's Assad (which was also a lot of bullshit reporting) or the population is terrorised by Democrat irregular militia running around terrorising everyone with their Kristallnacht. A lot of people just want to terror to end. Voting Biden will achieve that or so they believe. It's about voting for who is the least sore loser.
The main point against him that I can think of off the top of my head is that Chauvin and the others could have given George Floyd CPR earlier on. Though, given that Chauvin had an extreme amount of fentanyl in his blood (among (I recall) methamphetamine, cannabis and nicotine), I am not certain it would have made any difference. And the bystanders hollering and gathering did not help matters nor make things more safe and secure for the officers (if there had been no one around, it would have been more safe for the officers to begin administering CPR to George Floyd, which is significant considering that George Floyd both was a felon, obviously strong, and both violently resisted arrest and was overdosing). Administering CPR reg. drug overdoses is also a matter of police training. And the official policy back then did include using "neck restraints": http://archive.li/gncPE .
Apart from George Floyd being a felon (including robbing and pointing a gun at a pregnant woman), he also as far as I recall lost his job to the lockdowns. Which might have been a contributing factor to him having to do with fentanyl (I don't know whether he was a fentanyl addict and/or dealer). I think there was a video recently with George Floyd apparently having something in his mouth that might have been fentanyl when the cops first arrested him, as if he ingested the fentanyl he had on him in order to prevent the cops from finding it on him. George Floyd sat in his car at that point in time, so it fits with him not being able to easily throw the fentanyl somewhere else and therefore choosing to ingest it instead in order to get rid of it.
So, without the Chinese communist virus, George Floyd (the fentanyl-overdosing felon) would likely have been alive at this point in time. And then consider that the US deep state have considerable connections to the Chinese communists......
I think that kind of point falls apart in hindsight. People miss the original footage. It's often cut or otherwise edited.
When Floyd passes out Chauvin does check on him but he's also distracted by the hostile crowd which is being aggressive. At this point he has to pull out his mace.
Their attention is divided and the threat level is higher. This would have had an inhibiting effect and the cops were also aware the ambulance was only a minute out.
It wasn't just a hothead being threatening with his shouting, they also tried to interfere. It cannot be said at that point that it was four police officers dealing with a single suspect. They also comment on the crowd being hostile later in the footage.
The cops aren't necessarily medics and I don't think not providing CPR in those short tense moments should be something you want to set the standard that you go to prison on either murder or manslaughter chargers for. It's demanding a level of perfection that's extreme. Perhaps a reprimand would potentially be appropriate.
The woman might not have been pregnant. That may have been made up. It doesn't really make any difference. He wasn't an angel and certainly no saint.
The situation with the car is nonsense. A lot of it is. That's just what cops have to deal with. One minute he's fine in a car and is reluctant to get out. Then when it comes into getting into another car suddenly he's claustrophobic and can't breath. Had George Floyd gotten into that car then they could have hooked up with the ambulance quicker. Therefore he's guilty of his own manslaughter. Not to mention his own responsibility for his health and his state of intoxication.
The whole lot is just fucked up. It's all a democrat run shop and they're responsible for policing. Floyd was most responsible for his circumstances but after that Chinese imports (presumed for fentanyl) twice over. Also the only racist thing in all of this was if you listen carefully a woman in the original video was racially abusing Chauvin saying "It's the whites, this is what they do, they like messing with black people."
Other things about the situation are mind boggling. Like why they rip off the shop then just stay outside waiting to be caught. If you listen to the testimony of the three then they're like stooges, bumbling idiots.
That hothead in the crowd or at least one of them might have made things worse than you think. A shop attendant tried to tell the cops is was an OD. I think the shop attendant was also clued in from them being excessively intoxicated outside earlier or going in and out of the shop. The hothead bullied the shop attendant back inside.
If you also watch the trial Floyd wasn't alone. Believe it or not, the guy who was with him and also trying to pass the fake bill in an earlier attempt is apparently testifying. I crapped myself.
I've gone through the details extensively and I'm probably in around the same place as you. I can see things that could be done better, that's almost always the case in retrospect. I do not however see any failure significant enough to press charges. I think there's the assumption that any mistake and they're liable but I don't see that as being proportionate. It's demanding a standard that's excessive, for cops to get it perfect every time.
The trial is going to be dragged out though and they're probably going to try to force a guilty verdict. Thanks to the media the jury has already been tampered. Jury selection that's not biased will be very difficult. Names need to be protected as well across the board because intimidation is extreme. Any jury will be under intense intimidation. I am sure the name of Chauvin's lawyer isn't really Earl Gray. If that's his real name then my name is Taylors of Harrogate.
We also already know there is institutional bias. Forcing the charges is because of the autopsy which is meant to be independent. The second autopsy is purely for show and doesn't account for anything. It's troubling however that unlike the second autopsy the first is from a party that is supposed to be legitimate. The autopsy rules homicide but there's no basis for this in any of the physical findings. It's a completely baseless guess. The two happening at the same time does not mean it's causative. It would at best count as improbable homicide.
If the pathologist can be gotten to so to improperly rule homicide then why not the judge or anyone else? This sticks out like a sore thumb. They're just written homicide with no basis for it. Someone obviously wanted it to say that no matter what. Being able to press charges really hinged on that.
There are certain elements to this that make me suspect he intentionally tried to recreate an Eric Gardner. Bit of an over the top insurance scam. Often when these people died their families get millions.
When Floyd passes out Chauvin does check on him but he's also distracted by the hostile crowd which is being aggressive. At this point he has to pull out his mace.
Their attention is divided and the threat level is higher. This would have had an inhibiting effect and the cops were also aware the ambulance was only a minute out.
It wasn't just a hothead being threatening with his shouting, they also tried to interfere. It cannot be said at that point that it was four police officers dealing with a single suspect. They also comment on the crowd being hostile later in the footage.
Wait, Chauvin felt so threatened that he had to pull out his mace? If so, he did nothing wrong whatsoever. I did mention in my comment that the bystanders were hollering and gathering, but I did not know that they were being that threatening.
The woman might not have been pregnant.
I apologize if I am wrong about this part, I heard rumours reg. that several times elsewhere, though I should have double-checked that part. And now that I search online, I see several seemingly different versions of the trial that included George Floyd reg. that robbery and home invasion, it seems that George Floyd was one of maybe 5 men doing the robbery.
I got that wrong as well. At least as far as I can tell. Candace Owens repeated it too. She also seems to have gone through the video very closely and is one of the few in depth pieces of sceptical commentary I've been able to find. I looked it up though and couldn't find any reliable source for it.
I think that's potential counter intelligence. People dripping that to get pro-lifers. Dismiss one thing and it can dismiss the whole argument as it gets passed as the most severe thing but it's not actually integral to the argument. The point is he lived a life of crime and that's why he had encounters with the police. Nothing to do with him being black.
The original video is hard to find. It might be around somewhere. It's also somewhat long to go through with a fine tooth comb and the volume high watching it a dozen times or more.
I have tried to find the full video recently and one that comes up, I think is actually one that was more complete, is definitely edited to cut out the black woman saying racist things about whites. I think few people have seen the unedited original.
Candace Owens also makes another mistake that he drops a baggy. It looks like that but it's an artefact of the encoding. Looking closely in other recordings the officer or Floyd kicked a piece of trash between his legs from the road. Encoding can make things magically appear all of a sudden. It occludes things until they reach a certain threshold that's not the same a human vision. It cancels out anomalies until they become really prominent so they suddenly swell into view disproportionately (like the camera is very slightly on LSD).
The same thing happens in the Arbery video where people think he threw something because things just magically appear but they're most likely bits of branch or trash on the road that are cancelled out until they become sufficiently discernible (they get filled in from the surrounding pixels or texture). I guess he could still have thrown it, it's too blurry to be sure but the way it just appears is in fact an artefact of the video. Before it comes into view we have no idea how long it was there on the road for and we never find out what it was (or they, there were two stick like things on the road).
I would also be careful with other assumptions. Floyd said he was hooping earlier. But he also said there's a knee on what sounded like his dick instead of neck. Perhaps he meant looping or drinking. We know however he was on fentanyl regardless of anything said. I do not know if the autopsy did a rectal examination.
acquitting him on purpose to provoke the true riots
Did you watch the video? The riots have nothing to do with acquitting or not acquitting. The riots have nothing to do with George Floyd. The riots have nothing to do with that moron shot in Milwaukee. The riots have nothing to do with some black lives mattering.
Are you getting the picture?
Rioting is pre-planned, pre-staged. It is not organic. Sure, it attracts violent criminals, but none of the rioting in 2020 has started organically. Media/social media is being used to kickstart pre-planned rioting whenever there an incident occurs that can be spun and amped up with alarm buttons.
The goal of a judge should be to follow the law. We should not give in in any manner to prevent riots. If anyone gets the idea that rioting actually changes a judges mind, we are in for a world of shit. I believe that would be a much more likely scenario than a judge purposely acquitting to start riots. Judges have to deal with these assholes in the courtroom every day... the last thing they want is more of them.
This needs to be discussed nationally before it happens. Downtown Minneapolis is already a ghost town. Soon it will be destroyed. But there’s a chance the ruination can be stopped.
My daughter lives there. Her local post office was already destroyed. (Half the stuff I mail her gets lost, or takes weeks to arrive. Crazy.) The country should start thinking ahead. Lots of fine people are being crushed as each side makes political points. The whole thing is such a shame.
Keith Ellison could have shut the riots down before they started, but witheld the full video. He is a useful idiot and he will never be in a position to abuse his power ever again.
I don’t think it would have shut down the riots completely since they were probably planned for a very long time by these groups, just waiting for the opportunity to fire it off. I do think it would have calmed it down a bit though
Terrorist groups like BLM, Antifa, Sinrise, etc. refer to these as "trigger events". Im sure they would have found another event had this one not gone their way.
You're fooling yourself if you think the bodycam footage would've stopped the riots. Atlanta burned despite full video of a drunk driver punching cops, stealing one of their tasers and firing it at them before being shot. The only way to stop the riots is to approve lethal force and let the cops put down a few dogs. Once the rest of the pack gets the message that their behavior will no longer be tolerated, they'll settle down quick.
You are right, I dont think they would have allowed it to stop the riots. It definitely would have changed the public's perception and very likely would have stopped the chain event riots across the country.
I don't foresee the authorization of lethal force. It seems the only way to stop them is for good men to stand up to them directly like we are seeing once again in Portland. The Cops are handcuffed by the criminal Mayors, Governors, City Counselmen, DA's and others who are inciting the violence and emboldening the rioters. Its going to come down to us directly fighting tyranny. They aren't leaving us with any other options.
If the state and local government doesn't take preemptive measures for this, then they need to be legally held accountable for any further loss of life and property. This is probably going to be worse.
I don't know. I moved out of Minneapolis almost a year ago but I lived there my entire life and still have friends and family there. I get the sense from actual residents in Minneapolis that they are angry about the rioting and want Mayor Frey and Governor Walz to put it down. I also think there's a lot of anger at the city council. Of course, the dummies and the Marxists are still spouting their commie crap at the top of their lungs but I'm noticing a shift in the attitudes. For instance, I have one Marxist friend who absolutely insisted we need to defund he police and that the riots were caused by white supremacists. However, this friend also expressed fear to me about how another riot might mean real estate values would plummet and not recover and that I was lucky to get out when I did. This friend mocked me for years about wanting to get out of Minneapolis because I said it was going the way of Detroit. This friend sounded scared to me.
That was always the plan. Keith Ellison saw the body cam footage and the coroner's report and yet still charged them. The good news is that because of this malfeasance and corruption, Minnesota is going for Trump. Book it.
He makes some great points. An acquittal or a dismissal of charges will indeed make LA look like a campfire. It is a rather appealing thought to see what the results would be if an entire major US city was burnt to the ground and its residents fled for their lives to rebuild elsewhere......what would a recovery look like? Would investors take their chances on mega cheap real estate like the gay community did in Asbury Park NJ after the riots.
Honestly there's too much evidence they are innocent. It's enough that you can Wave it in their faces. He was alive in the ambulance, the death certificate has the time and dates. He had fentanyl induced heart damage, the autopsy proves that. If they decide to people should print copies of his autopsy, show the video in their faces and do the claustrophobic "can't breathe" shuffle. If they riot we can win this one for sure, the business owners should make that clear. Make a statement.
The problem that he should be acquitted. He is innocent.
I don't know, but I'm guessing the acquittal comes the last week of October.
The cops lawyers asked for the charges to be dropped 6 days ago citing the fact the cause of death was a drug overdose. So the judge can do it anytime.
Granted I doubt it will be anywhere around the time of the election. "Social injustice" might get them a few more votes but massive protests, violence, and riots would drive more right leaning and true moderates to the Republicans. All while making inner city Democrat strongholds a complete mess for voting while conservative suburbs and rural areas vote in mass with no issue.
I'm also pretty sure that they did let the beast out of its cage intentionally but they lost control of it. They're not going to provoke it again if they can help it. Vast majority of them just gave the Republicans the best chance to take back major cities since the civil war. They'll only make it worse for them.
So October?
Eh, I'm thinking it'll either be early September or it'll be inauguration day 2021. They can't beat Trump but wouldn't put it past them to step up the riots as he's sworn in for his second term.
Like they did with the wamens march and antifa nonsense after POTUS was inaugurated
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The scary thought. This could prevent in-person voting. Most of "us" will be doing in person, i plan to. So the dems win the mail in, even without overt mail in cheating.
That's the point. they made it into a scenario where they can justify the future violence.
I think it's at the point where with a lot of these people in their broken minds it's an atrocity that there was even a trial and that he wasn't immediately executed in public.
They definitely should have investigated but they did rush to press charges. However, I believe that was under public pressure. Those threats would not have gone away either way.
You're dealing with terrorists and they made a mistake in the first place negotiating with them. It's like feeding the stray in your back garden. You'll be sure to see it again. You're going to have a hell of a time getting rid of it.
In the UK we have a very problematic legal tradition that still impacts law of simply keeping the peace. If you have an oppressive rule or a reasonable population then it can work well. A reasonable population doesn't become restless without good reason.
What you have here is an unreasonable population. You can't fall into the trap of "keeping the peace". You have to stand up to them and use greater force, whatever is necessary, even if you end up having to so to speak brutally put down a peasant uprising.
Rule is rule, you have to protect it at the end of the day. Be it about keeping the peace or upholding the law (maintaining justice).
This is deliberate. In their calculations it damages Trump. Either there's a crack down and ultimately it gets brutal then they try to call like he's Assad (which was also a lot of bullshit reporting) or the population is terrorised by Democrat irregular militia running around terrorising everyone with their Kristallnacht. A lot of people just want to terror to end. Voting Biden will achieve that or so they believe. It's about voting for who is the least sore loser.
The main point against him that I can think of off the top of my head is that Chauvin and the others could have given George Floyd CPR earlier on. Though, given that Chauvin had an extreme amount of fentanyl in his blood (among (I recall) methamphetamine, cannabis and nicotine), I am not certain it would have made any difference. And the bystanders hollering and gathering did not help matters nor make things more safe and secure for the officers (if there had been no one around, it would have been more safe for the officers to begin administering CPR to George Floyd, which is significant considering that George Floyd both was a felon, obviously strong, and both violently resisted arrest and was overdosing). Administering CPR reg. drug overdoses is also a matter of police training. And the official policy back then did include using "neck restraints": http://archive.li/gncPE .
Apart from George Floyd being a felon (including robbing and pointing a gun at a pregnant woman), he also as far as I recall lost his job to the lockdowns. Which might have been a contributing factor to him having to do with fentanyl (I don't know whether he was a fentanyl addict and/or dealer). I think there was a video recently with George Floyd apparently having something in his mouth that might have been fentanyl when the cops first arrested him, as if he ingested the fentanyl he had on him in order to prevent the cops from finding it on him. George Floyd sat in his car at that point in time, so it fits with him not being able to easily throw the fentanyl somewhere else and therefore choosing to ingest it instead in order to get rid of it.
So, without the Chinese communist virus, George Floyd (the fentanyl-overdosing felon) would likely have been alive at this point in time. And then consider that the US deep state have considerable connections to the Chinese communists......
I think that kind of point falls apart in hindsight. People miss the original footage. It's often cut or otherwise edited.
When Floyd passes out Chauvin does check on him but he's also distracted by the hostile crowd which is being aggressive. At this point he has to pull out his mace.
Their attention is divided and the threat level is higher. This would have had an inhibiting effect and the cops were also aware the ambulance was only a minute out.
It wasn't just a hothead being threatening with his shouting, they also tried to interfere. It cannot be said at that point that it was four police officers dealing with a single suspect. They also comment on the crowd being hostile later in the footage.
The cops aren't necessarily medics and I don't think not providing CPR in those short tense moments should be something you want to set the standard that you go to prison on either murder or manslaughter chargers for. It's demanding a level of perfection that's extreme. Perhaps a reprimand would potentially be appropriate.
The woman might not have been pregnant. That may have been made up. It doesn't really make any difference. He wasn't an angel and certainly no saint.
The situation with the car is nonsense. A lot of it is. That's just what cops have to deal with. One minute he's fine in a car and is reluctant to get out. Then when it comes into getting into another car suddenly he's claustrophobic and can't breath. Had George Floyd gotten into that car then they could have hooked up with the ambulance quicker. Therefore he's guilty of his own manslaughter. Not to mention his own responsibility for his health and his state of intoxication.
The whole lot is just fucked up. It's all a democrat run shop and they're responsible for policing. Floyd was most responsible for his circumstances but after that Chinese imports (presumed for fentanyl) twice over. Also the only racist thing in all of this was if you listen carefully a woman in the original video was racially abusing Chauvin saying "It's the whites, this is what they do, they like messing with black people."
Other things about the situation are mind boggling. Like why they rip off the shop then just stay outside waiting to be caught. If you listen to the testimony of the three then they're like stooges, bumbling idiots.
That hothead in the crowd or at least one of them might have made things worse than you think. A shop attendant tried to tell the cops is was an OD. I think the shop attendant was also clued in from them being excessively intoxicated outside earlier or going in and out of the shop. The hothead bullied the shop attendant back inside.
If you also watch the trial Floyd wasn't alone. Believe it or not, the guy who was with him and also trying to pass the fake bill in an earlier attempt is apparently testifying. I crapped myself.
I've gone through the details extensively and I'm probably in around the same place as you. I can see things that could be done better, that's almost always the case in retrospect. I do not however see any failure significant enough to press charges. I think there's the assumption that any mistake and they're liable but I don't see that as being proportionate. It's demanding a standard that's excessive, for cops to get it perfect every time.
The trial is going to be dragged out though and they're probably going to try to force a guilty verdict. Thanks to the media the jury has already been tampered. Jury selection that's not biased will be very difficult. Names need to be protected as well across the board because intimidation is extreme. Any jury will be under intense intimidation. I am sure the name of Chauvin's lawyer isn't really Earl Gray. If that's his real name then my name is Taylors of Harrogate.
We also already know there is institutional bias. Forcing the charges is because of the autopsy which is meant to be independent. The second autopsy is purely for show and doesn't account for anything. It's troubling however that unlike the second autopsy the first is from a party that is supposed to be legitimate. The autopsy rules homicide but there's no basis for this in any of the physical findings. It's a completely baseless guess. The two happening at the same time does not mean it's causative. It would at best count as improbable homicide.
If the pathologist can be gotten to so to improperly rule homicide then why not the judge or anyone else? This sticks out like a sore thumb. They're just written homicide with no basis for it. Someone obviously wanted it to say that no matter what. Being able to press charges really hinged on that.
There are certain elements to this that make me suspect he intentionally tried to recreate an Eric Gardner. Bit of an over the top insurance scam. Often when these people died their families get millions.
Wait, Chauvin felt so threatened that he had to pull out his mace? If so, he did nothing wrong whatsoever. I did mention in my comment that the bystanders were hollering and gathering, but I did not know that they were being that threatening.
I apologize if I am wrong about this part, I heard rumours reg. that several times elsewhere, though I should have double-checked that part. And now that I search online, I see several seemingly different versions of the trial that included George Floyd reg. that robbery and home invasion, it seems that George Floyd was one of maybe 5 men doing the robbery.
I got that wrong as well. At least as far as I can tell. Candace Owens repeated it too. She also seems to have gone through the video very closely and is one of the few in depth pieces of sceptical commentary I've been able to find. I looked it up though and couldn't find any reliable source for it.
I think that's potential counter intelligence. People dripping that to get pro-lifers. Dismiss one thing and it can dismiss the whole argument as it gets passed as the most severe thing but it's not actually integral to the argument. The point is he lived a life of crime and that's why he had encounters with the police. Nothing to do with him being black.
The original video is hard to find. It might be around somewhere. It's also somewhat long to go through with a fine tooth comb and the volume high watching it a dozen times or more.
I have tried to find the full video recently and one that comes up, I think is actually one that was more complete, is definitely edited to cut out the black woman saying racist things about whites. I think few people have seen the unedited original.
Candace Owens also makes another mistake that he drops a baggy. It looks like that but it's an artefact of the encoding. Looking closely in other recordings the officer or Floyd kicked a piece of trash between his legs from the road. Encoding can make things magically appear all of a sudden. It occludes things until they reach a certain threshold that's not the same a human vision. It cancels out anomalies until they become really prominent so they suddenly swell into view disproportionately (like the camera is very slightly on LSD).
The same thing happens in the Arbery video where people think he threw something because things just magically appear but they're most likely bits of branch or trash on the road that are cancelled out until they become sufficiently discernible (they get filled in from the surrounding pixels or texture). I guess he could still have thrown it, it's too blurry to be sure but the way it just appears is in fact an artefact of the video. Before it comes into view we have no idea how long it was there on the road for and we never find out what it was (or they, there were two stick like things on the road).
I would also be careful with other assumptions. Floyd said he was hooping earlier. But he also said there's a knee on what sounded like his dick instead of neck. Perhaps he meant looping or drinking. We know however he was on fentanyl regardless of anything said. I do not know if the autopsy did a rectal examination.
Did you watch the video? The riots have nothing to do with acquitting or not acquitting. The riots have nothing to do with George Floyd. The riots have nothing to do with that moron shot in Milwaukee. The riots have nothing to do with some black lives mattering.
Are you getting the picture?
Rioting is pre-planned, pre-staged. It is not organic. Sure, it attracts violent criminals, but none of the rioting in 2020 has started organically. Media/social media is being used to kickstart pre-planned rioting whenever there an incident occurs that can be spun and amped up with alarm buttons.
The goal of a judge should be to follow the law. We should not give in in any manner to prevent riots. If anyone gets the idea that rioting actually changes a judges mind, we are in for a world of shit. I believe that would be a much more likely scenario than a judge purposely acquitting to start riots. Judges have to deal with these assholes in the courtroom every day... the last thing they want is more of them.
This needs to be discussed nationally before it happens. Downtown Minneapolis is already a ghost town. Soon it will be destroyed. But there’s a chance the ruination can be stopped.
My daughter lives there. Her local post office was already destroyed. (Half the stuff I mail her gets lost, or takes weeks to arrive. Crazy.) The country should start thinking ahead. Lots of fine people are being crushed as each side makes political points. The whole thing is such a shame.
They don't want to. The plan is to destroy the cities.
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Keith Ellison could have shut the riots down before they started, but witheld the full video. He is a useful idiot and he will never be in a position to abuse his power ever again.
I don’t think it would have shut down the riots completely since they were probably planned for a very long time by these groups, just waiting for the opportunity to fire it off. I do think it would have calmed it down a bit though
Terrorist groups like BLM, Antifa, Sinrise, etc. refer to these as "trigger events". Im sure they would have found another event had this one not gone their way.
You're fooling yourself if you think the bodycam footage would've stopped the riots. Atlanta burned despite full video of a drunk driver punching cops, stealing one of their tasers and firing it at them before being shot. The only way to stop the riots is to approve lethal force and let the cops put down a few dogs. Once the rest of the pack gets the message that their behavior will no longer be tolerated, they'll settle down quick.
Yes, one lesson from this is that bodycams are no defense in the court of public opinion. Right or reason has no place there, only credible violence.
You are right, I dont think they would have allowed it to stop the riots. It definitely would have changed the public's perception and very likely would have stopped the chain event riots across the country.
I don't foresee the authorization of lethal force. It seems the only way to stop them is for good men to stand up to them directly like we are seeing once again in Portland. The Cops are handcuffed by the criminal Mayors, Governors, City Counselmen, DA's and others who are inciting the violence and emboldening the rioters. Its going to come down to us directly fighting tyranny. They aren't leaving us with any other options.
It was intentional. He's antifa.
Democrats are going to destroy their cities no matter what. Acquitted, Guilty, doesn't matter. They are going to destroy any city they are allowed to.
I think that happened already.
It's just a matter of whether it happens at an accelerated pace with riots or a slow burn with their shitty laws and policies.
They’re already doing it. Let’s watch the bleeding heart liberals re-elect Democrat and blame Trump
If the state and local government doesn't take preemptive measures for this, then they need to be legally held accountable for any further loss of life and property. This is probably going to be worse.
I don't know. I moved out of Minneapolis almost a year ago but I lived there my entire life and still have friends and family there. I get the sense from actual residents in Minneapolis that they are angry about the rioting and want Mayor Frey and Governor Walz to put it down. I also think there's a lot of anger at the city council. Of course, the dummies and the Marxists are still spouting their commie crap at the top of their lungs but I'm noticing a shift in the attitudes. For instance, I have one Marxist friend who absolutely insisted we need to defund he police and that the riots were caused by white supremacists. However, this friend also expressed fear to me about how another riot might mean real estate values would plummet and not recover and that I was lucky to get out when I did. This friend mocked me for years about wanting to get out of Minneapolis because I said it was going the way of Detroit. This friend sounded scared to me.
Are the majority angry enough to vote out the Dems from leadership. If not, they can expect more of the same
That was always the plan. Keith Ellison saw the body cam footage and the coroner's report and yet still charged them. The good news is that because of this malfeasance and corruption, Minnesota is going for Trump. Book it.
He makes some great points. An acquittal or a dismissal of charges will indeed make LA look like a campfire. It is a rather appealing thought to see what the results would be if an entire major US city was burnt to the ground and its residents fled for their lives to rebuild elsewhere......what would a recovery look like? Would investors take their chances on mega cheap real estate like the gay community did in Asbury Park NJ after the riots.
A acquitted, he never should have been charged.
Vote better.
Well of course, that's the goal.
spoon clanking intensifies
It doesn’t take a weather man to know which way the wind blows
Damn...this makes me wonder about a lot more fake accusations over the years
Never underestimate the stupidity of a jury
more styx on here is a good thing
Is there anything left in Minneapolis besides rubble and despair? Is that burnable?
as a vikings fan id like to inform you that our seasons is yet to be a dumpster-fire but in due time
No doubt
I won’t just be Minneapolis. So be prepared.
Honestly there's too much evidence they are innocent. It's enough that you can Wave it in their faces. He was alive in the ambulance, the death certificate has the time and dates. He had fentanyl induced heart damage, the autopsy proves that. If they decide to people should print copies of his autopsy, show the video in their faces and do the claustrophobic "can't breathe" shuffle. If they riot we can win this one for sure, the business owners should make that clear. Make a statement.
Martial law.
Don't see the riots ever stopping now. Nothing is being done to stop them so why would they stop?