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TheStoneOfSisyphus 40 points ago +40 / -0

Civil War is America's future. Balkanization, even. But total and 100% capitulation ? Never. We're too stubborn. And we also have a Constitution with a Second Amendment.

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MagnanimousDonkey 17 points ago +17 / -0

And 400 million+ firearms. That's important to note.

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cotoneaster 14 points ago +16 / -2

If you get charged with racism and the police come for you, will you go down shooting or will you do your two years and hope to get off early? Most people will do the latter, and if they have family, practically everyone will.

This is not the mobs against lawful citizens. The is the police and the army and the media and the courts and the schools and every other institution against the citizens.

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FreeAndHostile 6 points ago +7 / -1

Not a fan of their politics, but Run the Jewels said it best:

"I got one round left, a hundred cops outside I could shoot at them or put one between my eyes Chose the latter, it don't matter, it ain't suicide And if the news say it was that's a goddamn lie"

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, that right there is all it takes to ensure this shit will never happen here. Our country will fracture into a dozen smaller countries first.

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repoman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fuck Balkanization. If its war then we take it all. Maybe even go North and take Canada.

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ThoughtExperiment 1 point ago +1 / -0

A right wing secessionist movement in the US would become an instant international pariah. First, you wouldn't be fighting against ANTIFA soyboys, you would be fighting against federalists in both the democratic and republican parties. These will include some serious motherfuckers in law enforcement, the military, and the intelligence community. Second, Canada and the EU would back the federalists to the hilt. I know Canada's military is something of a meme, but Canada has vast natural resources and highly developed industrial capacity. A war-mobilized Canada would be a fearsome opponent, especially to a weakened, fractured America.

If the secessionists somehow managed to not get instantly crushed, then Balkanization, population relocation, and an uneasy truce would be the most realistic positive outcome. It would be the absolute end of US hegemony in the Americas. Assuming that the US split into four countries (Alaska, East Coat, West coast, Midwest/Gulf), then Canada and Mexico would enjoy massively increased influence. NAFTA would get torn up and likely re-negotiated exclusively with the "blue" countries. The secessionists would find it very difficult to sell their goods on the North American market and would have to turn to their main backers int he civil war: Russia and China. At this point, China will be the most powerful country on earth, and will attempt to expand its influence in the secessionist states similar to the way it does in Africa. They will likely provide loans to rebuild infrastructure, and these loans will come with major strings attached.

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repoman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Canada part was a joke.

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ShampocalypseWOW 1 point ago +1 / -0

I just don't see Balkanization ever happening. The left has no ability to stop us should we decide to force them to do as we say. What are they going to do, use the police they're in the process of neutering? No, once we hit that tipping point and patriotic Americans are tired of playing by the rules, which are biased against them anyway, it's going to be open season and liberals will quickly go into hiding and shut up about their politics or get waxed.