Agree. There are too many soft majors in college these days that anyone can get a degree. It doesn't matter if you have a degree. What matters is what you learned in college and if you have valuable skills. Who cares about your art history or women's studies degree. It is all about STEM, business, law, healthcare these days.
There's a reason a lot of men are refusing to get married, and instead investing in themselves.
I would much rather have a nice boat and spend my life enjoying and exploring the world, then locked in a 3 bedroom city apartment with 4 kids and someone who cheats on me while im at a work conference only 3 hours from home for 2 nights..
Yes sir, preaching to the choir. I like the idea of having a family soon-ish but the thought of losing half of what I own due to some nut job is pretty scary.
I used to travel around and enjoy life. Found someone who seemed to like the same things, but time happened... They'll always find ways to root you to one spot, and slowly hate your life more and more...
After this years pandemic I put my foot down. I bought a HD 4x4 rust bucket i am currently restoring. Its getting a camper in the bed of the truck. I am going to start taking entire quarters to travel or even longer if I can get an effective plan in place. I told her I had stayed put for 8 years, she could go with me or without me but either way I was going! I have hit a rut I need to see some views and rejuvenate the soul!
Imagine going through life thinking people give enough a shit about you that you think they actively try to hold you back. Or rather imagine thinking everyone is as stilted and petty as you.
I’ve experienced this so many times it has become an absolute truism. If someone is complaining about people cheating them it’s usually because that person is doing the thing they are complaining about.
Classic. Gender pay myth is insane. When someone tells you "muh 77 cents to the dollar" remind them of the following;
*Over 95% of combat deaths
*Over 90% of work related deaths
*Work longer hours
*Work dirtier jobs
*"Lawfully" discriminated against by big companies who need quotas
*Women tend to work in jobs that pay less by CHOICE (Nursing/Care vs. Engineering)
If you work more, get hurt/die more you should get paid more
And they tend after babies to not prioritize advancement in favor of flexibility.
Law firms are being driven mad by this. They hire plenty of women. Advance plenty of them. By the time they get to partner most of them say "no" since they dont want the extra work/responsibilities.
Back in he early 80's a told my entire class that I thought women should also have to sign up for the draft since the goal was equality (or so they've always claimed). I got my ass handed to me by the entire class. 40 years later and here we are with women getting more and more and making no extra sacrifices to earn it. We don't have equal rights. What we have is women and minority privilege meanwhile white men can't have their own organizations and men in general are the only people asked to sacrifice for their country.
it does if you've been in for a while and have a lot of experience. it pays well even with little experience compared to typical bullshit jobs so it's a big increase in quality of life even going to a school for 2 or so years to get an LVN license instead of going to college and becoming an RN
but all the jobs that are big time with the huge ceiling require more work and career investment than people are generally aware of when they hear in high school "go to college and get a degree in this." it's the same thing it always is, people are afraid of starting small and building themselves up.
In Arizona, where cost of living is low, nursing entry level jobs pay $30/hr right out of the 2 year community college nursing program. Specialized nursing with a 4 year degree can paying 100k+.
After 10 years in the industry most are making 75k+ per year. You will make much more than this in some cities. It's a good career.
It absolutely can.
It's possible to cap yourself with a nice comfortable clinic job or a regular schedule. But if you want to work extra shifts at another hospital that's not your main gig or if you want to work 3rd or 2nd shift, it certainly can. "How much do you want to work?"
They do make good money and maybe just as important is the job outlook and security. They aren't outsourced like the majority of the rest of us not in a service industry. Median income with a bachelors degree and experience is $73,000. Lots of signing bonuses right now too.
They want that requirement though. That is what they think is the problem - that we are missing that requirement. It is insane that they think that would be an improvement on the current system... but they do.
I've seen more and more fracturing of job positions due to this. More and more any variation within a job position gets called bias, and so the response is more and more admin time to splinter job positions.
"Why is he paid more than you? Because he's in position X instead of position Y - position X has more on-call hours than position Y."
Every company I'm aware of that has done a study of pay at their companies were found to be underpaying men. Blind hiring practices based solely off qualifications found women are hired less when it's not known they're women before hand. 70c on the dollar is a lie. They don't want equality they want power and preferential treatment.
Well, what an AI does is look for patterns. Which is also what our brain instinctively does.
In the stone age a primitive man would notice that 1 guy goes into a cave and doesn't come back, and then another guys goes into a cave and doesn't come back. Our man surely doesn't go in the cave.
Police profiling blacks or Muslims should be official policy.
Ironically you would also save more black lives by stopping more criminals, but we all know that BLM hates white people more than they love black people.
Note how the article doesn't even ask itself why that could be. They immediately jump to the conclusion that a fucking computer is sexist.
Moreover, they've been working on it for long before giving up, proving that it was not just a fluke: rational decisions would "discriminate" against women, if by "discriminate" you mean that they would hire them less.
Machine learning in general is... somewhat adversarial in nature. It optimizes towards the provided metrics, not the goal that you think the provided metrics are a proxy for.
I don't even work in tech, I work in a male dominated industry, and I haven't found a chick that has been paid less than me for the same job. That shit is lime systemic racism, CNN polls, and Covid. Complete hoax.
Just like the white people who say they support reparations for POC. Great, you support it so much, let's see your wages taxed an extra 25% to fund the reparations. You can set the example for everyone else by doing it voluntarily.
This is why sometimes I wish that men, especially white men, kinda stuck together as a group to advocate for us in general. We have been trounced on in every aspect I can think of in terms of men's rights. We get harsher punishments in criminal cases. We get less rights when it comes to anything family related from child support all the way to custody of children. Then we end up being the brute force labor to get shit done is society - building stuff, running utility systems, growing most of the country's food etc. We fight and die in all the wars and then we get shit on in every single aspect of life because we have become a group of push overs.
The defining features of a man is that we take charge and get shit done. Time to nut up and take charge!
The problem is that if men sued Google, they would just fire all of the men
...and then Google would flop, and we might be actually able to have a competitor in that space instead of Google stomping all over everything then dropping the service at a whim a few years later.
women routinely make more than men when you take identical time in industry and include the moniker "never married". That's key, look at Thomas Sowell's works on the subject.
Years ago I did interviews with Google - they headhunted me and paid for me to fly to San Fran for interviews at their main campus. They offered me a role in site reliability. It was shit-tier pay. I turned them down. Best. Decision. Ever.
google "male" employees are 99.99% cucks. I will never hire anyone who's got google, facebook, apple, linkedin, twitter, and a few others on their resume.
Imagine suing someone with no information what so ever and being wrong..
US Womens Soccer Team says hi
Well they had the information and sued while wrong anyway
... mostly empty space?
Like my stomach. Sure wish they'd make me a sandwich.
Ftfy
And they are all very fond of saying, "educated yourself, maybe read a book'.
All hubris on their part.
Agree. There are too many soft majors in college these days that anyone can get a degree. It doesn't matter if you have a degree. What matters is what you learned in college and if you have valuable skills. Who cares about your art history or women's studies degree. It is all about STEM, business, law, healthcare these days.
Don't lawyers do this daily?
It's part of their legal system lotto.
But being a victim all the time is so fun! -wahmen
There's a reason a lot of men are refusing to get married, and instead investing in themselves.
I would much rather have a nice boat and spend my life enjoying and exploring the world, then locked in a 3 bedroom city apartment with 4 kids and someone who cheats on me while im at a work conference only 3 hours from home for 2 nights..
Yes sir, preaching to the choir. I like the idea of having a family soon-ish but the thought of losing half of what I own due to some nut job is pretty scary.
How does that make any difference?
Interesting. What happens if she decides to quit her job and then later divorces?
(Also: child support is actually more of the worry for many people.)
My state had no fault divorce - the lawyer flat out told me that if I went after the house, my legal fees would be higher than if I just let it go...
I used to travel around and enjoy life. Found someone who seemed to like the same things, but time happened... They'll always find ways to root you to one spot, and slowly hate your life more and more...
After this years pandemic I put my foot down. I bought a HD 4x4 rust bucket i am currently restoring. Its getting a camper in the bed of the truck. I am going to start taking entire quarters to travel or even longer if I can get an effective plan in place. I told her I had stayed put for 8 years, she could go with me or without me but either way I was going! I have hit a rut I need to see some views and rejuvenate the soul!
Imagine going through life thinking people give enough a shit about you that you think they actively try to hold you back. Or rather imagine thinking everyone is as stilted and petty as you.
I’ve experienced this so many times it has become an absolute truism. If someone is complaining about people cheating them it’s usually because that person is doing the thing they are complaining about.
Classic. Gender pay myth is insane. When someone tells you "muh 77 cents to the dollar" remind them of the following; *Over 95% of combat deaths *Over 90% of work related deaths *Work longer hours *Work dirtier jobs *"Lawfully" discriminated against by big companies who need quotas *Women tend to work in jobs that pay less by CHOICE (Nursing/Care vs. Engineering)
If you work more, get hurt/die more you should get paid more
The draft. Women are excluded.
And they tend after babies to not prioritize advancement in favor of flexibility.
Law firms are being driven mad by this. They hire plenty of women. Advance plenty of them. By the time they get to partner most of them say "no" since they dont want the extra work/responsibilities.
Back in he early 80's a told my entire class that I thought women should also have to sign up for the draft since the goal was equality (or so they've always claimed). I got my ass handed to me by the entire class. 40 years later and here we are with women getting more and more and making no extra sacrifices to earn it. We don't have equal rights. What we have is women and minority privilege meanwhile white men can't have their own organizations and men in general are the only people asked to sacrifice for their country.
Nursing pays very good
Does it? I keep on hearing very conflicting things about that.
it does if you've been in for a while and have a lot of experience. it pays well even with little experience compared to typical bullshit jobs so it's a big increase in quality of life even going to a school for 2 or so years to get an LVN license instead of going to college and becoming an RN
but all the jobs that are big time with the huge ceiling require more work and career investment than people are generally aware of when they hear in high school "go to college and get a degree in this." it's the same thing it always is, people are afraid of starting small and building themselves up.
In Arizona, where cost of living is low, nursing entry level jobs pay $30/hr right out of the 2 year community college nursing program. Specialized nursing with a 4 year degree can paying 100k+.
After 10 years in the industry most are making 75k+ per year. You will make much more than this in some cities. It's a good career.
And as an added bonus everyone thinks your are a hero for making that kind of money lol.
Absolutely. Considering you're an RN. Even LPNs and CNAs make good money.
It absolutely can. It's possible to cap yourself with a nice comfortable clinic job or a regular schedule. But if you want to work extra shifts at another hospital that's not your main gig or if you want to work 3rd or 2nd shift, it certainly can. "How much do you want to work?"
They do make good money and maybe just as important is the job outlook and security. They aren't outsourced like the majority of the rest of us not in a service industry. Median income with a bachelors degree and experience is $73,000. Lots of signing bonuses right now too.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/registered-nurses.htm
Yup. Advanced practice nurses like FNP's and CRNA's make physician level pay. It is crazy.
remind everyone that brings it up there is no requirement at all anywhere for two different people to be paid the exact same amount...
They want that requirement though. That is what they think is the problem - that we are missing that requirement. It is insane that they think that would be an improvement on the current system... but they do.
I've seen more and more fracturing of job positions due to this. More and more any variation within a job position gets called bias, and so the response is more and more admin time to splinter job positions.
"Why is he paid more than you? Because he's in position X instead of position Y - position X has more on-call hours than position Y."
It's also because men and women have a different brain.
Take for instance, the game of chess. Do you know how many women there are on the top 100 of players? Just one (and even that is questionable).
The "women chess champion" is nothing compared to the normal (meaning not sex segregated) chess champion.
It's simply because men are better at logic and calculation, not to mention testosterone that makes them competitive.
Every company I'm aware of that has done a study of pay at their companies were found to be underpaying men. Blind hiring practices based solely off qualifications found women are hired less when it's not known they're women before hand. 70c on the dollar is a lie. They don't want equality they want power and preferential treatment.
Yes, they tried AI for hiring but stopped when they saw it was hiring white males.
I even think they don't do psychometric tests these days anymore, or they couldn't do their quotas
The police made a crime prevention AI, and guess what? It was pretty much always right..... After it started to profile. (They shut it down.)
Well, what an AI does is look for patterns. Which is also what our brain instinctively does.
In the stone age a primitive man would notice that 1 guy goes into a cave and doesn't come back, and then another guys goes into a cave and doesn't come back. Our man surely doesn't go in the cave.
Police profiling blacks or Muslims should be official policy. Ironically you would also save more black lives by stopping more criminals, but we all know that BLM hates white people more than they love black people.
and AI learns how to cheat too. People assume that it is going to be "fair", but there is a reason humans have developed "spidey sense" about people and situations. Anyway, here is the cheater:
https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/31/this-clever-ai-hid-data-from-its-creators-to-cheat-at-its-appointed-task/
I'd love a source on this. That's hilarious!
There's many articles. This, for example.
Note how the article doesn't even ask itself why that could be. They immediately jump to the conclusion that a fucking computer is sexist.
Moreover, they've been working on it for long before giving up, proving that it was not just a fluke: rational decisions would "discriminate" against women, if by "discriminate" you mean that they would hire them less.
https://mobile-reuters-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1MK08G?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15982962348247&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reuters.com%2Farticle%2Fus-amazon-com-jobs-automation-insight-idUSKCN1MK08G
Machine learning in general is... somewhat adversarial in nature. It optimizes towards the provided metrics, not the goal that you think the provided metrics are a proxy for.
Everyone against Trump hates men too, I've noticed.
Cue CNN https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2020/08/20/cnn-cheers-dnc-excluding-white-men-except-biden-course
A white man who votes for the Democrats can only be a race traitor cuckold.
I don't even care if you want national healthcare or even communism. The Democrats hate white people and that's the only thing that matters.
Self-hatred is an ugly, yet powerful force.
I don't even work in tech, I work in a male dominated industry, and I haven't found a chick that has been paid less than me for the same job. That shit is lime systemic racism, CNN polls, and Covid. Complete hoax.
Recruiter from Google reached out, I responded that I would leave my spot open for a person of color.
LOL you nobleman!
/s as working there would have destroyed your sanity probably
You should have said that he should leave his spot for a person of color, before you'd consider the position.
Just like the white people who say they support reparations for POC. Great, you support it so much, let's see your wages taxed an extra 25% to fund the reparations. You can set the example for everyone else by doing it voluntarily.
Same can be applied to those who want refugees. Take one in your house first.
LEGENDARY KEK
Soccer players...google employees..when will these idiots learn?
Maybe when they are no longer women.
the real issue is that people don’t negotiate their salaries, instead they take what is offered. This happens across the ‘vast spectrum’ of genders
So not only are they underpaying men and women, they're underpaying everyone?
Unless you are a burger flipper fresh in from Mexico and then you are severely overpaid $15/hr.
Doing a steal.
discrimination is acceptable among democrats so long it's under the auspice of equity
If all the male employees quit nothing would get done.
This is why sometimes I wish that men, especially white men, kinda stuck together as a group to advocate for us in general. We have been trounced on in every aspect I can think of in terms of men's rights. We get harsher punishments in criminal cases. We get less rights when it comes to anything family related from child support all the way to custody of children. Then we end up being the brute force labor to get shit done is society - building stuff, running utility systems, growing most of the country's food etc. We fight and die in all the wars and then we get shit on in every single aspect of life because we have become a group of push overs.
The defining features of a man is that we take charge and get shit done. Time to nut up and take charge!
Male employees are too busy learning more about coding to spend time with frivolous lawsuits.
Great Idea!
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...and then Google would flop, and we might be actually able to have a competitor in that space instead of Google stomping all over everything then dropping the service at a whim a few years later.
Facts don't care about your feelings, bitches!
women routinely make more than men when you take identical time in industry and include the moniker "never married". That's key, look at Thomas Sowell's works on the subject.
just single out women that are young, college-educated, and have no children. All make more than men in identical roles.
Reparations for all men in the country!!!
Civil Rights Act violations that no one will act on. NEXT!
Great comedy skit on wage gap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRkyp0xsys
Just another under-informed democrat voter.
The women were under leveled. It's also important to look at the distribution at each level
Under leveled with respect to what?
Assuming 1.7 children and 20 weeks leave per child, that's what, 8 or 9 months total, on average? There's your 'under leveled' right there.
Sure but at these tech companies, guys get the same amount of paternity leave (and I’ve never seen men pass on it)
Google pays shit, full stop.
Years ago I did interviews with Google - they headhunted me and paid for me to fly to San Fran for interviews at their main campus. They offered me a role in site reliability. It was shit-tier pay. I turned them down. Best. Decision. Ever.
This is an oldie, but a goodie.
google "male" employees are 99.99% cucks. I will never hire anyone who's got google, facebook, apple, linkedin, twitter, and a few others on their resume.