Classic. Gender pay myth is insane. When someone tells you "muh 77 cents to the dollar" remind them of the following;
*Over 95% of combat deaths
*Over 90% of work related deaths
*Work longer hours
*Work dirtier jobs
*"Lawfully" discriminated against by big companies who need quotas
*Women tend to work in jobs that pay less by CHOICE (Nursing/Care vs. Engineering)
If you work more, get hurt/die more you should get paid more
And they tend after babies to not prioritize advancement in favor of flexibility.
Law firms are being driven mad by this. They hire plenty of women. Advance plenty of them. By the time they get to partner most of them say "no" since they dont want the extra work/responsibilities.
Back in he early 80's a told my entire class that I thought women should also have to sign up for the draft since the goal was equality (or so they've always claimed). I got my ass handed to me by the entire class. 40 years later and here we are with women getting more and more and making no extra sacrifices to earn it. We don't have equal rights. What we have is women and minority privilege meanwhile white men can't have their own organizations and men in general are the only people asked to sacrifice for their country.
it does if you've been in for a while and have a lot of experience. it pays well even with little experience compared to typical bullshit jobs so it's a big increase in quality of life even going to a school for 2 or so years to get an LVN license instead of going to college and becoming an RN
but all the jobs that are big time with the huge ceiling require more work and career investment than people are generally aware of when they hear in high school "go to college and get a degree in this." it's the same thing it always is, people are afraid of starting small and building themselves up.
In Arizona, where cost of living is low, nursing entry level jobs pay $30/hr right out of the 2 year community college nursing program. Specialized nursing with a 4 year degree can paying 100k+.
After 10 years in the industry most are making 75k+ per year. You will make much more than this in some cities. It's a good career.
It absolutely can.
It's possible to cap yourself with a nice comfortable clinic job or a regular schedule. But if you want to work extra shifts at another hospital that's not your main gig or if you want to work 3rd or 2nd shift, it certainly can. "How much do you want to work?"
They do make good money and maybe just as important is the job outlook and security. They aren't outsourced like the majority of the rest of us not in a service industry. Median income with a bachelors degree and experience is $73,000. Lots of signing bonuses right now too.
They want that requirement though. That is what they think is the problem - that we are missing that requirement. It is insane that they think that would be an improvement on the current system... but they do.
I've seen more and more fracturing of job positions due to this. More and more any variation within a job position gets called bias, and so the response is more and more admin time to splinter job positions.
"Why is he paid more than you? Because he's in position X instead of position Y - position X has more on-call hours than position Y."
Classic. Gender pay myth is insane. When someone tells you "muh 77 cents to the dollar" remind them of the following; *Over 95% of combat deaths *Over 90% of work related deaths *Work longer hours *Work dirtier jobs *"Lawfully" discriminated against by big companies who need quotas *Women tend to work in jobs that pay less by CHOICE (Nursing/Care vs. Engineering)
If you work more, get hurt/die more you should get paid more
The draft. Women are excluded.
And they tend after babies to not prioritize advancement in favor of flexibility.
Law firms are being driven mad by this. They hire plenty of women. Advance plenty of them. By the time they get to partner most of them say "no" since they dont want the extra work/responsibilities.
Back in he early 80's a told my entire class that I thought women should also have to sign up for the draft since the goal was equality (or so they've always claimed). I got my ass handed to me by the entire class. 40 years later and here we are with women getting more and more and making no extra sacrifices to earn it. We don't have equal rights. What we have is women and minority privilege meanwhile white men can't have their own organizations and men in general are the only people asked to sacrifice for their country.
Nursing pays very good
Does it? I keep on hearing very conflicting things about that.
it does if you've been in for a while and have a lot of experience. it pays well even with little experience compared to typical bullshit jobs so it's a big increase in quality of life even going to a school for 2 or so years to get an LVN license instead of going to college and becoming an RN
but all the jobs that are big time with the huge ceiling require more work and career investment than people are generally aware of when they hear in high school "go to college and get a degree in this." it's the same thing it always is, people are afraid of starting small and building themselves up.
In Arizona, where cost of living is low, nursing entry level jobs pay $30/hr right out of the 2 year community college nursing program. Specialized nursing with a 4 year degree can paying 100k+.
After 10 years in the industry most are making 75k+ per year. You will make much more than this in some cities. It's a good career.
Absolutely. Considering you're an RN. Even LPNs and CNAs make good money.
It absolutely can. It's possible to cap yourself with a nice comfortable clinic job or a regular schedule. But if you want to work extra shifts at another hospital that's not your main gig or if you want to work 3rd or 2nd shift, it certainly can. "How much do you want to work?"
They do make good money and maybe just as important is the job outlook and security. They aren't outsourced like the majority of the rest of us not in a service industry. Median income with a bachelors degree and experience is $73,000. Lots of signing bonuses right now too.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/registered-nurses.htm
Yup. Advanced practice nurses like FNP's and CRNA's make physician level pay. It is crazy.
remind everyone that brings it up there is no requirement at all anywhere for two different people to be paid the exact same amount...
They want that requirement though. That is what they think is the problem - that we are missing that requirement. It is insane that they think that would be an improvement on the current system... but they do.
I've seen more and more fracturing of job positions due to this. More and more any variation within a job position gets called bias, and so the response is more and more admin time to splinter job positions.
"Why is he paid more than you? Because he's in position X instead of position Y - position X has more on-call hours than position Y."
It's also because men and women have a different brain.
Take for instance, the game of chess. Do you know how many women there are on the top 100 of players? Just one (and even that is questionable).
The "women chess champion" is nothing compared to the normal (meaning not sex segregated) chess champion.
It's simply because men are better at logic and calculation, not to mention testosterone that makes them competitive.