Do they think they can win an armed Civil War? How? External help? Government controlled forces? I don't see the logic behind how this ends well for them. But, I think its time we genuinely started thinking about the different outcomes.
China will arrive on our west coast the second an actual Civil War starts. Dems will beg muh CCP to save them from the mess they started. Will be hell on earth.
Exactly. I’ll add that the real issue is that the CCP knows it will collapse if Trump has a successful second term. So it literally is life or death to them, as far as they’re concerned. So they are willing to take it all the way now. Which is important for normies or even informed people here that don’t understand the nuance that the CCP is not China. It is a rogue regime in charge of China.
Each Virginia class SSN carries enough torpedoes/missiles to sink the entire CCP fleet on their own, and I'm really sure we have a good dozen or so roaming the Pacific.
These useful idiots definitely have not thought this through. Look how easily they retreat when met with unmitigated force. These are coddled SJWs who bask in their victimhood and safe spaces. This is gonna be good. I have popcorn at the ready.
This is it, this rat has openly declared their plan. No matter the outcome, they plan to destroy all we have worked so hard for to make this the most wonderful Country in the world. They will obliterate freedom, the Constitution and opportunity. Take this occasion to prepare, talk to friends and family because the closer we get to Nov 3 the more I see things will be very different going forward, and fear not, you are NOT alone.
To me this is proof that they know they’re going down and going down hard. As in to jail. Shit’s been fucked for decades. Trump’s like the only real president since Reagan. They almost completely took over until he stepped in and turned it all around on them. They’re scared shitless and can’t concede because if they do, they’re going to fucking jail. They’re not going to just lose power, they’re going to be put away. They know what they all did. They’re still doing it. Trump knows too. Epstein was the tipping point for them.
That’s why this isn’t a normal election. Trump was the joke candidate to them that they bolstered to make the Republicans lose. They had no idea Trump was a stable genius because they bought their own lies and let’s face it Trump looks like a caricature of himself on purpose which he uses to great effect. He got elected and went on to do everything he said he would, and has even begun the investigations and hearings on them. They’re not afraid of losing. It’s not like they aren’t all filthy rich and retirement age anyway. They’re afraid of being put in fucking jail and exposed and having to flee the fucking country. The past 30 years exposed and undone. America being freed. They’re fucking scared.
They can only hold on by censoring all public communication, and they’re failing. The second American Revolution is coming. The re-freeing of America.
It will not be us against joggers and trans teenagers. If we start using actual violence like they do, the police and military would come down on us like a hammer. Because in a way you are right. If we get organized, we actually pose a threat to them. But that won't be allowed to happen.
Do they think they can win an armed Civil War? How?
Hmmm, let's see... They own the media, the telecoms, the Deep State, the law, most of the Government, almost all the higher ranks of the DoD, education, and have foreign allies. Yes they can win an armed Civil War. Just because they're anti 2A doesn't mean they're powerless.
how are they going to win it? a bunch of goat fuckers with pick up trucks and ak 47s have been able to frustrate and oppose the most powerful military force on the planet for the better part of 20 years
that same incredibly powerful military force over the last 20 years sent home a great deal of veterans who learned first hand the trade of fighting a guerilla war. in the (unlikely) event that the majority of the uniformed military service sides with the globalists you will see the most legendary insurgency in the history of recorded warfare. it will be worth your life to drive 500 feet on any highway in america.
They weren’t trying to win. I’m sure many times the rules of engagement got our guys killed. They were just making it perpetual. Obomber was pulling back probably with plans of another mid-East country. Winning doesn’t sale tanks and planes and curing illnesses doesn’t sale prescription drugs.
People don’t realize we have millions of combat veterans walking the streets today, and while they lack the money and equipment of our current active duty, those currently on active duty collectively have little combat experience, most units are not deploying into much more than sustainment positions.
I discharged in 2011, my peer group that stayed would be in the 10-15 year service experience now. We were drilled on a consistent basis our role to protect the constitution and how we would not turn on the US public (was a genuine concern at the start of the Obama era, at least in my units). The pentagon is severally disconnected from the enlisted side of things.
Some of us have been waiting our entire adult lives for this fight. I honestly thought it would never come in my lifetime. After all, how many generations enjoyed stateside peace outside of the Revolutionary and Civil War?
well the war of 1812 also, but I understand your point. Throughout its history America has been truly blessed to very rarely ever have to see what true conflict and warfare is like on their own soil.
This is the thing, you have the other side who is filled with dickheads who haven't ever really experienced what the real desperation of conflict is right, then you have our side which overwhelmingly has veterans that understand the darkest possible side of human nature.
Aside from all other reasons available that we would, in the event of a big igloo, win bigly; you have the effect of morale over a period of time. You said it yourself, some of us have been waiting our whole lives for this fight. In the pursuit of freedom and ridding our glorious nation of the Marxist infestation we would endure misery they can't even conceive of. This is why I say it'd be a Thunderdome lasting about a week. After a week of starving bellies and watching most of the people they knew end up as an unidentifiable mass of red flesh, they'd go full Iraqi and start surrendering to news crews if it got them food.
The majority of plans fighting against America is wait us out. We had 20 years worth of logistics, databases, etc but the patience of the American people is the weak point.
You're getting downvoted but dishing facts. As hard as they are to digest they are true and people need to acknowledge this long-term if we ever are to go to war with an effective strategy.
I hate to say it but there are quite a few principles of strategy the left does much better than the right.
Offensive? The left always attacks, the right usually retreats and congratulates themselves on their patience and self-restraint.
Maneuver? The left is always scheming for the next conflict, while the right sits and waits for the conflict to show up at their doorstep.
Propaganda? Goes without saying.
Maintenance of morale? The left is on a rabid 24/7 jihad against civilization, the right either thinks it'll all blow over, or else predicts their own defeat before a single punch has been thrown.
And on and on.
It'd be great if the right learned from its enemies, because we have all the objective advantages, and if we were willing to use those advantages we'd be unstoppable.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong...
The german forces hitler had were a good bit smaller than the french, and could have defeated by the french. However, the french had a generations worth of pacifism taught to them, and their tunnel vision on the maginot line, vs hitlers blitzkrieg and armies full of meth.
This is what worries me. I think its time we started taking this a little bitlot more seriously.
It really pains me to start thinking this way but it is becoming increasingly inevitable.
I havae been preaching this for months. If SHTF, we must have national leadership, a reliable communication network and organization at the national level.
Right now, we have none of these. Even the Viet Cong were better-organized than we are.
I would expect nothing less from someone with the handle Paul Revere...
I think you are, very right.
I was the last person who wanted to acknowledge this reality but its time to stop fucking around.
This entire community was almost defeated off of Reddit, and thankfully wise Patriots had the foresight to prevent this. We were that close though to a major internet defeat. You are right we need to be more organized and take things more seriously.
This is exactly right. We are actually at a huge and clear disadvantage. Google, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, telecoms, CIA, FBI, media, etc are already set up against us. Think about the power and reach of those organizations.
And like you say, unlike them, we have no national organization. We cannot act in coordination, and won't be allowed to if SHTF.
Even Mao knew you had to control the countryside to win a revolution. Because once you control the countryside, you control the cities.
I honestly don't think that anyone on the American left grasps this. Most of them seem to be city dwellers, who think that the world begins and ends at their city limits.
There's no organization for us to implement any kind of strategy. And how would we get organized anyway? Our Facebook accounts? Google maps? Twitter? Use our Apple and Google phones with our AT&T service?
Also, people would not just automatically form into two groups, us and them. The reality would be a total shitshow.
And if food and supplies stop getting shipped, that will effect almost everyone, not just team blue. Remember, we're the ones with families.
Also, coastal cities would probably have an advantage in a total shitshow since ships from other counties could supply them.
That's strategy for political warfare, not actual warfare.
Are you kidding me? The right celebrates strength. Pretty much every right wing man wants to build muscles and learn how to fight and use weapons. We see ourselves in the Sparta warrior society.
The soyboys see weakness as the moral high ground. That's why in their "protest" they go on their knee and prostrate themselves. They are cucks. The see themselves as victims and they want to be the victims.
A right Vs left war would see the soyboys absolutely destroyed even if there were no guns. The sheer alphaness of Trump supporters would make their women wet themselves with sexual arousal, those of them who have a real pussy obviously.
Do they think they can win an armed Civil War? How? External help? Government controlled forces? I don't see the logic behind how this ends well for them. But, I think its time we genuinely started thinking about the different outcomes.
China will arrive on our west coast the second an actual Civil War starts. Dems will beg muh CCP to save them from the mess they started. Will be hell on earth.
Bitch please, the Chinese fleet is logistically stuck in the South China Sea.
I did not know that but that's great news.
Minisubs.
Metric shit ton of Minisubs.
From North Korea, along the Aleutians, then following the natural current south to CA.
Even if only 10% of them arrive, we'll be outnumbered 3 to 1, and the arrivals will be extra pissed looking to avenge the already drowned.
The fleet, yes. The "students" who flood in from China? They're here.
Not true, they have supply ships that can cross the Pacific Ocean easily.
The chicoms can definitely come to America if there's no US military to stop them.
EMP
Exactly. I’ll add that the real issue is that the CCP knows it will collapse if Trump has a successful second term. So it literally is life or death to them, as far as they’re concerned. So they are willing to take it all the way now. Which is important for normies or even informed people here that don’t understand the nuance that the CCP is not China. It is a rogue regime in charge of China.
I think it should be clear by now that leftists would help CCP with the logistics to nuke a city.
They've been in charge for how many decades?
I don't see the CCP ending anytime soon.
Each Virginia class SSN carries enough torpedoes/missiles to sink the entire CCP fleet on their own, and I'm really sure we have a good dozen or so roaming the Pacific.
Not if our navy has something to say about it. We can guard our coasts with our navy if we have to.
I've been saying this for years. I thought it would be blue hats but maybe it's going to be other armies.
Once the civil war breaks out, no prisoners, no quarter🩸
Word
These useful idiots definitely have not thought this through. Look how easily they retreat when met with unmitigated force. These are coddled SJWs who bask in their victimhood and safe spaces. This is gonna be good. I have popcorn at the ready.
This is it, this rat has openly declared their plan. No matter the outcome, they plan to destroy all we have worked so hard for to make this the most wonderful Country in the world. They will obliterate freedom, the Constitution and opportunity. Take this occasion to prepare, talk to friends and family because the closer we get to Nov 3 the more I see things will be very different going forward, and fear not, you are NOT alone.
To me this is proof that they know they’re going down and going down hard. As in to jail. Shit’s been fucked for decades. Trump’s like the only real president since Reagan. They almost completely took over until he stepped in and turned it all around on them. They’re scared shitless and can’t concede because if they do, they’re going to fucking jail. They’re not going to just lose power, they’re going to be put away. They know what they all did. They’re still doing it. Trump knows too. Epstein was the tipping point for them.
That’s why this isn’t a normal election. Trump was the joke candidate to them that they bolstered to make the Republicans lose. They had no idea Trump was a stable genius because they bought their own lies and let’s face it Trump looks like a caricature of himself on purpose which he uses to great effect. He got elected and went on to do everything he said he would, and has even begun the investigations and hearings on them. They’re not afraid of losing. It’s not like they aren’t all filthy rich and retirement age anyway. They’re afraid of being put in fucking jail and exposed and having to flee the fucking country. The past 30 years exposed and undone. America being freed. They’re fucking scared.
They can only hold on by censoring all public communication, and they’re failing. The second American Revolution is coming. The re-freeing of America.
True enough. Clinton didn't really concede; their rear guard started.
I’ve also been saying this.
I also think globalist/Chinese ground invasions are plausible after the civil war goes hot.
So what can we/POTUS do to counter this plan?
We must hope that it goes into hot conflict, so we can end communists once and for all.
The real danger is voter fraud. That's what would give them control of the military. That's the only way they could win.
She would know: she got this snowball rolling with her own Russian/Ukrainian collusion.
I do recall her and obomber selling tons of uranium to some Eastern European Country. But which one/ones
Agreed 100%
It will not be us against joggers and trans teenagers. If we start using actual violence like they do, the police and military would come down on us like a hammer. Because in a way you are right. If we get organized, we actually pose a threat to them. But that won't be allowed to happen.
Hmmm, let's see... They own the media, the telecoms, the Deep State, the law, most of the Government, almost all the higher ranks of the DoD, education, and have foreign allies. Yes they can win an armed Civil War. Just because they're anti 2A doesn't mean they're powerless.
how are they going to win it? a bunch of goat fuckers with pick up trucks and ak 47s have been able to frustrate and oppose the most powerful military force on the planet for the better part of 20 years
that same incredibly powerful military force over the last 20 years sent home a great deal of veterans who learned first hand the trade of fighting a guerilla war. in the (unlikely) event that the majority of the uniformed military service sides with the globalists you will see the most legendary insurgency in the history of recorded warfare. it will be worth your life to drive 500 feet on any highway in america.
They weren’t trying to win. I’m sure many times the rules of engagement got our guys killed. They were just making it perpetual. Obomber was pulling back probably with plans of another mid-East country. Winning doesn’t sale tanks and planes and curing illnesses doesn’t sale prescription drugs.
People don’t realize we have millions of combat veterans walking the streets today, and while they lack the money and equipment of our current active duty, those currently on active duty collectively have little combat experience, most units are not deploying into much more than sustainment positions.
I discharged in 2011, my peer group that stayed would be in the 10-15 year service experience now. We were drilled on a consistent basis our role to protect the constitution and how we would not turn on the US public (was a genuine concern at the start of the Obama era, at least in my units). The pentagon is severally disconnected from the enlisted side of things.
Exactly.
Some of us have been waiting our entire adult lives for this fight. I honestly thought it would never come in my lifetime. After all, how many generations enjoyed stateside peace outside of the Revolutionary and Civil War?
well the war of 1812 also, but I understand your point. Throughout its history America has been truly blessed to very rarely ever have to see what true conflict and warfare is like on their own soil.
This is the thing, you have the other side who is filled with dickheads who haven't ever really experienced what the real desperation of conflict is right, then you have our side which overwhelmingly has veterans that understand the darkest possible side of human nature.
Aside from all other reasons available that we would, in the event of a big igloo, win bigly; you have the effect of morale over a period of time. You said it yourself, some of us have been waiting our whole lives for this fight. In the pursuit of freedom and ridding our glorious nation of the Marxist infestation we would endure misery they can't even conceive of. This is why I say it'd be a Thunderdome lasting about a week. After a week of starving bellies and watching most of the people they knew end up as an unidentifiable mass of red flesh, they'd go full Iraqi and start surrendering to news crews if it got them food.
The majority of plans fighting against America is wait us out. We had 20 years worth of logistics, databases, etc but the patience of the American people is the weak point.
You're getting downvoted but dishing facts. As hard as they are to digest they are true and people need to acknowledge this long-term if we ever are to go to war with an effective strategy.
We could start with national leadership, a communications network and a coordinated plan of action.
They can lock us out of the internet. That's real power.
We'll make our own Internet. With Blackjack. And hookers!
The media could convince the demotards that Chinese/UN troops on US soil are here to protect our democracy against the "nazis"
Who wins the civil war depends entirely on how it starts, the circumstances and context.
Kek,Key, imagine thinking a war is won in the first battle. Cringe bro
I hate to say it but there are quite a few principles of strategy the left does much better than the right.
Offensive? The left always attacks, the right usually retreats and congratulates themselves on their patience and self-restraint.
Maneuver? The left is always scheming for the next conflict, while the right sits and waits for the conflict to show up at their doorstep.
Propaganda? Goes without saying.
Maintenance of morale? The left is on a rabid 24/7 jihad against civilization, the right either thinks it'll all blow over, or else predicts their own defeat before a single punch has been thrown.
And on and on.
It'd be great if the right learned from its enemies, because we have all the objective advantages, and if we were willing to use those advantages we'd be unstoppable.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong...
The german forces hitler had were a good bit smaller than the french, and could have defeated by the french. However, the french had a generations worth of pacifism taught to them, and their tunnel vision on the maginot line, vs hitlers blitzkrieg and armies full of meth.
Cannot forget the meth. Probably my favorite historical fact lol.
You guys know the Allies used that shit too?
Read “A Bridge Too Far” it speaks of allied paratroopers flying off the handle due to amphetamines
Nice to know Der Fuhrer preached what he practiced.
The French didn't fight and now get what they deserve as France erodes.
This is what worries me. I think its time we started taking this a little bit more seriously.
It really pains me to start thinking this way but it is becoming increasingly inevitable.
I havae been preaching this for months. If SHTF, we must have national leadership, a reliable communication network and organization at the national level.
Right now, we have none of these. Even the Viet Cong were better-organized than we are.
I would expect nothing less from someone with the handle Paul Revere...
I think you are, very right.
I was the last person who wanted to acknowledge this reality but its time to stop fucking around.
This entire community was almost defeated off of Reddit, and thankfully wise Patriots had the foresight to prevent this. We were that close though to a major internet defeat. You are right we need to be more organized and take things more seriously.
Been seeing this war coming for years. Most friends thought i was the crazy one, now their buying ammo.
This is exactly right. We are actually at a huge and clear disadvantage. Google, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, telecoms, CIA, FBI, media, etc are already set up against us. Think about the power and reach of those organizations.
And like you say, unlike them, we have no national organization. We cannot act in coordination, and won't be allowed to if SHTF.
It was already serious in 2016.
If you didn't ramp up then and stock up, you are SOL right now.
I honestly don't think that anyone on the American left grasps this. Most of them seem to be city dwellers, who think that the world begins and ends at their city limits.
There's no organization for us to implement any kind of strategy. And how would we get organized anyway? Our Facebook accounts? Google maps? Twitter? Use our Apple and Google phones with our AT&T service?
Also, people would not just automatically form into two groups, us and them. The reality would be a total shitshow.
And if food and supplies stop getting shipped, that will effect almost everyone, not just team blue. Remember, we're the ones with families.
Also, coastal cities would probably have an advantage in a total shitshow since ships from other counties could supply them.
Then right needs to come out of their shell and show more hunger or desire because we are in a culture war and we need to participate.
That's strategy for political warfare, not actual warfare.
Are you kidding me? The right celebrates strength. Pretty much every right wing man wants to build muscles and learn how to fight and use weapons. We see ourselves in the Sparta warrior society.
The soyboys see weakness as the moral high ground. That's why in their "protest" they go on their knee and prostrate themselves. They are cucks. The see themselves as victims and they want to be the victims.
A right Vs left war would see the soyboys absolutely destroyed even if there were no guns. The sheer alphaness of Trump supporters would make their women wet themselves with sexual arousal, those of them who have a real pussy obviously.