Race and ethnicity is upstream from assimilation rates. Culture is downstream from assimilation. One guy from east Germany does not make up for the 1000000 other immigrants who completely disagree with him. Nowhere in the entire world exists a group of immigrants that reliability over generations vote or support right wing politics or support the in group of the country they move to, unless... they are of the same racial group and similar ethnic group, they come in small numbers, and there is a strong, enforced monoculture. Germans and Dutch assimilated to the English and Scotch Irish. Italians had a bit harder of a time. Indians rarely assimilate. African immigrants are more likely to assimilate in to the Black identify in American rather than the American vote.
Blacks not assimilating is a great point. Some assimilate, but most do not. Those who do not assimilate end up creating their own separate identity, distinct and explicitly against the in group. Those who do assimilate end up identifying with the in group. The vast majority of the right identifies with the American historical in group. The left is becoming a cohort of those who do not identify as the historical in group and those who are white leftist who cave or are convinced by social and hierarchical pressure to be left leaning, such as that pushed by corporate HR, CNN, schooling, or social media companies.
Nowhere in that equation does legal immigration help the in group at this point. There is no strongly enforced monoculture, the racial and ethnic groups don’t match the ingroup, and they come in at massive numbers. at the end of the day, we can’t enforce a monoculture for many years because there are so many unassimilated immigrants already! Maybe 20 or 30 years from now, if we win, we can do that. But that’s a big ‘if’ and not worth considering at this point.
I’m still not sure what being in the supposed out group has to do with hating the police, not understanding economics, being hysterical all the time, thinking having no police is a good idea, not believing in objective reality, lying constantly in the news, not understanding insurance, not understanding the importance of fathers and the harm of single motherhood, being pro abortion, and all the other stupid things that democrats now believe and do. There are plenty of conservatives I don’t like or get along with, but yet we still hold similar values.
You make good points. The thing is, America, for most of its history, has been a very immigrant friendly country. We see ourselves as a “melting pot.” It’s clear that on a cultural level, that doesn’t work (and yet now Europe is following that path. How are they so stupid?). With America on the verge of having no majority race, how does it recover? A new secession into a conservative and a liberal country? The conservative country would skew so old that it could easily struggle, while the liberal nation would skew so heavily towards the poor/single mother/criminal group it may struggle. Idk which side would come out ahead in that. But it seems unlikely to happen anytime soon. Moving back to a federalist system would be a start, but I don’t see that happening either. Liberals would rather try to dominate than live and let live
Race and ethnicity is upstream from assimilation rates. Culture is downstream from assimilation. One guy from east Germany does not make up for the 1000000 other immigrants who completely disagree with him. Nowhere in the entire world exists a group of immigrants that reliability over generations vote or support right wing politics or support the in group of the country they move to, unless... they are of the same racial group and similar ethnic group, they come in small numbers, and there is a strong, enforced monoculture. Germans and Dutch assimilated to the English and Scotch Irish. Italians had a bit harder of a time. Indians rarely assimilate. African immigrants are more likely to assimilate in to the Black identify in American rather than the American vote.
Blacks not assimilating is a great point. Some assimilate, but most do not. Those who do not assimilate end up creating their own separate identity, distinct and explicitly against the in group. Those who do assimilate end up identifying with the in group. The vast majority of the right identifies with the American historical in group. The left is becoming a cohort of those who do not identify as the historical in group and those who are white leftist who cave or are convinced by social and hierarchical pressure to be left leaning, such as that pushed by corporate HR, CNN, schooling, or social media companies.
Nowhere in that equation does legal immigration help the in group at this point. There is no strongly enforced monoculture, the racial and ethnic groups don’t match the ingroup, and they come in at massive numbers. at the end of the day, we can’t enforce a monoculture for many years because there are so many unassimilated immigrants already! Maybe 20 or 30 years from now, if we win, we can do that. But that’s a big ‘if’ and not worth considering at this point.
I’m still not sure what being in the supposed out group has to do with hating the police, not understanding economics, being hysterical all the time, thinking having no police is a good idea, not believing in objective reality, lying constantly in the news, not understanding insurance, not understanding the importance of fathers and the harm of single motherhood, being pro abortion, and all the other stupid things that democrats now believe and do. There are plenty of conservatives I don’t like or get along with, but yet we still hold similar values.
You make good points. The thing is, America, for most of its history, has been a very immigrant friendly country. We see ourselves as a “melting pot.” It’s clear that on a cultural level, that doesn’t work (and yet now Europe is following that path. How are they so stupid?). With America on the verge of having no majority race, how does it recover? A new secession into a conservative and a liberal country? The conservative country would skew so old that it could easily struggle, while the liberal nation would skew so heavily towards the poor/single mother/criminal group it may struggle. Idk which side would come out ahead in that. But it seems unlikely to happen anytime soon. Moving back to a federalist system would be a start, but I don’t see that happening either. Liberals would rather try to dominate than live and let live