4641
Comments (1572)
sorted by:
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
1
Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, LOL, you said, "the only reason the rest of us aren't out there doing that exact same thing"...oh no, no. I'm not there because 1) I have a job 2) I have a family 3) I defend my own property first, not someone else's 4) It's none of my business. It's the government and police and the national guard that should handle it.

Legally, an interested party is a party that has some sort of tie in to the people or assets or stake. An interested party isn't some guy who likes watching livestreams on 'puter. I guess a livestream could be an interested party if it was making money from the livestream and the government shut down livestreaming from the area...then maybe they're an interested party but still iffy.

If this happened in my new awesome little neighborhood in greater Minnesota, I would step up for patrols and to observe and record and all that. I'd do it in an instance. I'd organize everything from training to schedules to cooking dinner and baking a cake. heck, I'd have trained PAs on retainer (okay, that one's a stretch) I did it while I was in Minneapolis. For years I ran and coordinated a neighborhood watch...we took license plates numbers, watched houses that seemed a bit off, called on things that seemed weird, even took some people who were open to it to a gun range. Yet for all our efforts, crime never went down, only up and everything I put in my garden was still stolen. However, let me tell ya, once you bring a weapon outside the home, brandish it or carry it, whatever the laws are, in a Democrat controlled area, the law is going to come down on you and doesn't even matter if the cops agree with you or that you weren't doing anything illegal...they'll find something. It's all partisanship. That's what everyone who thinks they're going to go and fight or protect or defend or whatever has to understand...Democrats WANT the chaos. They think the rioters are RIGHT. It's not about the law, or the constitution or anything you and I would think is good or bad for a community...its all about what Democrats want to control and want to punish. They would rather destroy their own cities than do what is right. That's what we're seeing and there is no way to stop them unless those people are voted out and power is taken from them.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
1
Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

You seem to think that reason why it's a good idea to wait is because people will die in the meantime. Yep. They've been dying now since George Floyd did. However, it's not as simply as just walking in and "doing the right thing" no matter how right you think you are. Let me first address this kid, Kyle's heart, it's a good heart and a strong heart. Any father would be proud of this young man. The problem is he's a 17 year old kid and this is a very complex social, political and legal environment. Right now, it's all wobbling house of cards more or less. If the whole house of cards falls, we lose everything, both sides, heck, all sides lose everything. There's nothing to gain by smashing everything into pieces. What we want to do, is keep the House of Cards standing until we can find a way to shore it up.

Let me explain another way: Do you remember right before the election of 2016? Conservative speakers were being deplatformed at colleges and universities and campuses were the scene of riots. After the election these campus riots, started appearing on the streets and slowly but surely, we all started to be banned from social media. Trump was tied up with a phony investigation for three years, then a phony impeachment and now phony pandemics. This is not what winning looks like. Look at the Proud Boys, they were deplatformed, some even lost the ability to do banking, others are in the clinker serving unfair long sentences, others are deeply in debt due to legal bills. Was the Battle of Portland worth it? Who is running the streets of Portland today? You can go in there, like this young kid with a good heart meaning well and do the right thing, but he's going to lose because frankly, we're losing on every front. You think Proud Boys generation II is going to make a difference to that? No, the idea is to keep the house of cards standing, long enough for the voters to figure out that its democrats behind this, get the out of office and then start repairing the damage. you act too soon, you just chalk up another defeat. Wait until our position is secure and we can actually win.

2
deleted 2 points ago +2 / -0
1
Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's a lot of reasons to like this kid, Kyle. He did do what he thought was right. He does have heart. He did shoot commies. He did go to Kenosha and try to protect property.

I also understand you disagreed with my definition of LARPer. That doesn't change my opinion that he's a LARPer. I understand why you and others may think that's harsh because he's young, he's good and we all like him. yet, he went into a battle he didn't understand and couldn't win. He thought he and his gun could save a piece of Kenosha but it can't. he might have sincerely believed that with all his heart and he may have had the purest heart ever in that endeavor. But it wasn't his job and it wasn't his place. That makes him LARPer. He may be the most noble and sympathetic LARPer ever but that's what he is. He had no business getting into the middle of that.

I know that referring to him that ways is going to hurt some feelings because he's extremely sympathetic on this board right now, but he fits the definition of a LARPer in my opinion.