We shouldn't want the NRA to get involved. They would just use him for a fundraising bargaining chip. That's all they ever do with anything.
You know who inserted the "let's create a national gun registration database" language into the Brady Act? The NRA. Why? Because they insisted on being involved in the reconciliation bill drafting after it passed separately in both houses, and they wanted an easy way to implement an "instant check".
Then the NRA spent the next 20 years screaming and demanding more money in order to stop BATF from abusing the database that the NRA insisted be created.
I assume what he's referring to is that the NRA pushed Trump to "defuse tensions" by banning bumpstocks, which led a lot of gun owners to say "we were promised no gun control and a rollback of regs, fuck this!" and to sit out.
Even facing Biden, there are a lot of gun nuts who claim they are refusing to vote for Trump just because he followed the NRA's advice. And we do take that seriously -- the import ban on semiautos is exactly what cost George HW Bush his reelection and gave us Billy-Boy Clintoon.
A lot of gun nuts are *pissed* that not only did Trump "cave" (i.e., following the advice of Swamp NRA), but he also hasn't done anything positive for gun owners. He hasn't been presented with gun legislation to sign, but that's on Congress. He hasn't done anything positive, like pushing for easing of gun regs (Hearing Protection Act for suppressors, removing Bush1's import ban) either.
So clearly the best choice is to vote for Biden. GTFO with that garbage. If so called gun nuts sit on theirs this election they get what they fucking deserve.
That is what we should pressure Trump on. Trump has four more years when he is elected. He needs to talk on some issues that matter to a lot of White American conservatives such as the anti-white narrative, soften the gun laws, etc.
Minority unemployment is great but it is tiring line because they are not the people who are threatened or slandered every time by the media as being "racist" or "supremacist" or being forced to accept their own replacement. This is more important and the GOP knows this.
I contributed to Kyle's GoFundMe for his legal defense. Within 15 minutes I received an email saying that my money would be refunded to me and his GoFundMe account was shutdown.
It doesn't matter if he found it on the ground when he showed up, if he didn't have it we would be talking about the commies that just killed a 17 year old kid and got away with it.
You could, but you could also argue he would have been even more of a target without one. The wigglet that got domed was looking for someone to beat, he picked someone he thought was an easy mark. That kid probably saved the life of someone by killing those pieces of shit.
Usually you don't see rioters attacking each other. I watched the video several times and it looks like the questioning at the gas station about his gun led him to run. While running he runs into ANTIFA victim 1 while he is destroying cars. Victim one sees a guy with a gun (maybe a cop) being chased. He attacks Kyle. I think his position of having a gun led to him being harassed, chased and attacked.
What nobody is asking though, where the fuck were his pals?
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t criticize the left.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t oppose BLM.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t support Trump.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you just didn’t stand up to the MSM, Democrats and their agenda at all, so better to just be a sheep and accept it.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t oppose BLM
Let's stop assisting Soros here and call them what they are. They are a Big Corp Marxism Mob. Since when was Marxism required to fight racism? Never so we should drop the BLM proxy and call it out.
I asked a simple question of what provoked them to target Kyle. No videos show him being argumentative or being approached for politics. They all seem to question his gun.
He opposed the left like all other attacks. Did you not see that piece of shit starting shit with the crew at the gas station? My guess is mr "shoot me nigga" felt disrespected from early and stalked one of them down like the pussies they are. Kid was probably done for the night and walking back to his care since the fucking riot was broken up.
There is a video shows what happened. Shaved head antifa dude and his pals are vandalizing parked cars.
Kyle being chased by some people at the gas station, runs up to shaved head dude. It was an unexpected encounter. Shaved head guy most likely had a weapon and approached Kyle having seen him previously. It looks as if the skinhead throws something at Kyle. Kyle who is already ramped up fires off 6 or 7 rounds while running from the skin head around the car. 1 shot grazed the dudes head.
Then more people show up and start chasing Kyle back in the direction where he came from.
Not a single Militia buddy of Kyle was there assisting him. Not one that is visible. All those gun shots could not have come from Kyle.
The other side of the story always gets out. Social media, podcasts to many alternative channels. I don't know of many people who watch news on TV anymore.
I know the difference bro. Most white conservatives here believe in civic nationalism so much that they have lost tribal instincts. other minority conservatives might believe in civic nationalism but their tribalism would still be present even though in small amounts.
As far as you don't harm anyone, you are free to tell everyone what is on your mind. The RNC hasn't talked bout white victims who have died recently but has pandered a lot. What do you think about the RNC convention?
the RNC was a joke, it had nikki haley for instance.
Not only GOP but trump rants every rally about how well everyone's doing but leaves out white America. Actual real America. Every time.
I only see one logical solution to this and no one wants to hear it. So i bide my time until whites are a minority and the solution becomes the only thing left on the table.
I get you bro.i have done my best to wake up some whites.
i feel Whites will overcome this but nature wants to teach whites a lesson before they wake up.they might become a minority but the gullibility will reduce over time.
Just happy my group of friends have been mega red pilled lately, hoping for the whole concept of me waking up 5 people and then them all waking up 5 etc
NRA is going extinct with the Paul Ryan RINOs of the world. Time for a new face for gun rights to surface that is more in step with the modern times and MAGA agenda. The NRA has not evolved to meet the demands of modern gun owners.
I checked and it seems like they’re all a bunch of slow boomers with infrequent news updates: https://gunowners.org/
But considering their news headlines are fairly topical to what has happened in recent weeks, I would expect them to chime in eventually when they get their email chain mail for recent events.
I have seen no evidence they major league unded the plaintiffs and were not one of the organizations central to the litigation. If there is, the NRA should clearly state same.
I just want to live in the America I was promised where you can order surplus M16's off Amazon directly to your front door with no background check, just like George Washington and the rest of the founders intended.
The 2A was written so that ordinary citizens would have access to the same weaponry being used by the people they might have to defend themselves against.
NRA sucks. I remember many yeas ago when the government wanted the names of all donors to non-profits via the DISCLOSE Act, and they got that authority. The NRA made a deal with the swamp, exempting them, that fucked over smaller organizations, such as Campaign For Liberty.
My local members only range told all members last evening to stop all donations to the NRA. No suggestions for replacement groups beyond the GOA and local private ranges were suggested. In my opinion the NRA is for fuds and the ignorant.
I quit the NRA years ago. Just a bunch of cucked faggots.When NY ban the AR "style" black scary guns right in the NRA's back yard and didn't do a fucking thing I was done. They used to be great but now they're run by hacks with an open for business sign hanging outside so politicians know they're open to be paid off.
Kyle literally broke at least one gun law. The NRA has never advocated that gun owners break gun laws, quite the reverse. The NRA has always emphasized training and responsibility.
Fuck the NRA. They're only after your money. I've actually stopped shopping at Midway USA because they're propping those assholes up and e-begging on their behalf.
NRA won't do shit.
And sending out mailers for... MORE MONEY!
Holy fuck the emails. I had to unsubscribe twice.
Shameless at this point. In my opinion.
Yeah, but that duffel bag, bro. /s
Isn't the NRA broke?
No doubt.
Controlled oppo$ition.
Oregon Gun Owners and Oregon Firearm Federation in my state. No junk mail, no flashy ads.
I have a lot of respect for Oregon Firearms Federation. Great track record of holding peoples feet the fire when it comes to gun rights.
I support my local gun shop.
Yup, no chance in hell. Well, they won’t do anything to support him, I could see them condemning him
We shouldn't want the NRA to get involved. They would just use him for a fundraising bargaining chip. That's all they ever do with anything.
You know who inserted the "let's create a national gun registration database" language into the Brady Act? The NRA. Why? Because they insisted on being involved in the reconciliation bill drafting after it passed separately in both houses, and they wanted an easy way to implement an "instant check".
Then the NRA spent the next 20 years screaming and demanding more money in order to stop BATF from abusing the database that the NRA insisted be created.
pls renew subscription.
this is your 35th and final* notice.
The NRA sold out completely in 2018 when they help flip the house for Pelosi.
With his username, it's probably a source familiar with the NRA's farting.
I assume what he's referring to is that the NRA pushed Trump to "defuse tensions" by banning bumpstocks, which led a lot of gun owners to say "we were promised no gun control and a rollback of regs, fuck this!" and to sit out.
Even facing Biden, there are a lot of gun nuts who claim they are refusing to vote for Trump just because he followed the NRA's advice. And we do take that seriously -- the import ban on semiautos is exactly what cost George HW Bush his reelection and gave us Billy-Boy Clintoon.
A lot of gun nuts are *pissed* that not only did Trump "cave" (i.e., following the advice of Swamp NRA), but he also hasn't done anything positive for gun owners. He hasn't been presented with gun legislation to sign, but that's on Congress. He hasn't done anything positive, like pushing for easing of gun regs (Hearing Protection Act for suppressors, removing Bush1's import ban) either.
So clearly the best choice is to vote for Biden. GTFO with that garbage. If so called gun nuts sit on theirs this election they get what they fucking deserve.
That is what we should pressure Trump on. Trump has four more years when he is elected. He needs to talk on some issues that matter to a lot of White American conservatives such as the anti-white narrative, soften the gun laws, etc. Minority unemployment is great but it is tiring line because they are not the people who are threatened or slandered every time by the media as being "racist" or "supremacist" or being forced to accept their own replacement. This is more important and the GOP knows this.
Yep, fuck the NRA. Send your donations to the GOA instead, a proper gun lobby.
lol they sold out in like the 1930s
I contributed to Kyle's GoFundMe for his legal defense. Within 15 minutes I received an email saying that my money would be refunded to me and his GoFundMe account was shutdown.
Yes we do. I count one headshotted faggot in Kenosha who has been punished
That wasn't a we...are you going to be out there fighting for him when he is getting lynched?
Why did scumbags like George Floyd get a gold casket?
We live in clown world. Private companies control our government and by extension us. Soon enough a 2nd American Revolution will be necessary.
Meanwhile violent perps are bailed out without issue..
Armless ringleader has a GoFundMe though, still up. Pathetic.
That is so infuriating.
He clearly violated the terms of service. He isn't a rapist pedophile.
His address is online. Mail a check.
I like that idea
Wayne's too busy getting the Cigar Club off the ground.
Everything is that isn’t pushing the Left’s narrative is white nationalist these days.
There is so much evidence that says otherwise. They will lose bigly with that message.
We don't know enough yet. He clearly defended himself but was the gun legally his, did he have permits, blag blah blah
It doesn't matter if he found it on the ground when he showed up, if he didn't have it we would be talking about the commies that just killed a 17 year old kid and got away with it.
One could argue that he wouldn't have been a target had he not carried the gun.
You could, but you could also argue he would have been even more of a target without one. The wigglet that got domed was looking for someone to beat, he picked someone he thought was an easy mark. That kid probably saved the life of someone by killing those pieces of shit.
Usually you don't see rioters attacking each other. I watched the video several times and it looks like the questioning at the gas station about his gun led him to run. While running he runs into ANTIFA victim 1 while he is destroying cars. Victim one sees a guy with a gun (maybe a cop) being chased. He attacks Kyle. I think his position of having a gun led to him being harassed, chased and attacked.
What nobody is asking though, where the fuck were his pals?
The people shot are not victims. The shooter is the victim in this scenario.
I don't know the full story but thanks for not answering my question?
Right, because NOT having a gun sure saved that old man who had his head bashed in yesterday.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1368802/kenosha-riots-worker-beaten-looter-jacob-blake/
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t criticize the left.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t oppose BLM.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you didn’t support Trump.
One could argue you wouldn’t be a target if you just didn’t stand up to the MSM, Democrats and their agenda at all, so better to just be a sheep and accept it.
Let's stop assisting Soros here and call them what they are. They are a Big Corp Marxism Mob. Since when was Marxism required to fight racism? Never so we should drop the BLM proxy and call it out.
I asked a simple question of what provoked them to target Kyle. No videos show him being argumentative or being approached for politics. They all seem to question his gun.
So why was he attacked causing him to defend himself?
It was the gun.
Like all the other people the commies beat to a pulp that also didn't have guns?
Are you moving goal post? I asked what caused him to be attacked specifically.
He opposed the left like all other attacks. Did you not see that piece of shit starting shit with the crew at the gas station? My guess is mr "shoot me nigga" felt disrespected from early and stalked one of them down like the pussies they are. Kid was probably done for the night and walking back to his care since the fucking riot was broken up.
There is a video shows what happened. Shaved head antifa dude and his pals are vandalizing parked cars.
Kyle being chased by some people at the gas station, runs up to shaved head dude. It was an unexpected encounter. Shaved head guy most likely had a weapon and approached Kyle having seen him previously. It looks as if the skinhead throws something at Kyle. Kyle who is already ramped up fires off 6 or 7 rounds while running from the skin head around the car. 1 shot grazed the dudes head.
Then more people show up and start chasing Kyle back in the direction where he came from.
Not a single Militia buddy of Kyle was there assisting him. Not one that is visible. All those gun shots could not have come from Kyle.
Let's hope so.
Incorrect. They'll print and air whatever they want.
The other side of the story always gets out. Social media, podcasts to many alternative channels. I don't know of many people who watch news on TV anymore.
I can see the headline now. “ white nationalist shoots three white people”
White nationalism isnt white supremacy btw
People here need to really stop conflating the two, its the same thing leftists do with illegal and legal immigrants by just calling them immigrants
I know the difference bro. Most white conservatives here believe in civic nationalism so much that they have lost tribal instincts. other minority conservatives might believe in civic nationalism but their tribalism would still be present even though in small amounts. As far as you don't harm anyone, you are free to tell everyone what is on your mind. The RNC hasn't talked bout white victims who have died recently but has pandered a lot. What do you think about the RNC convention?
the RNC was a joke, it had nikki haley for instance.
Not only GOP but trump rants every rally about how well everyone's doing but leaves out white America. Actual real America. Every time.
I only see one logical solution to this and no one wants to hear it. So i bide my time until whites are a minority and the solution becomes the only thing left on the table.
I get you bro.i have done my best to wake up some whites. i feel Whites will overcome this but nature wants to teach whites a lesson before they wake up.they might become a minority but the gullibility will reduce over time.
Also i think we'll over come it, but there's a long frustrating road before that
Just happy my group of friends have been mega red pilled lately, hoping for the whole concept of me waking up 5 people and then them all waking up 5 etc
Slow process but i guess thats what it'll take.
i do and it does unless i say it to someone who is ignorant.
People in texas know the difference between the two. You seem to not.
Yeah I would end the convo if i where you before i got embarrassed too.
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NRA is going extinct with the Paul Ryan RINOs of the world. Time for a new face for gun rights to surface that is more in step with the modern times and MAGA agenda. The NRA has not evolved to meet the demands of modern gun owners.
GOA is supposedly a better option.
It is definitely a better option and am a member. Still think there is room for something even better.
Thank you for the timely reminder.
This was great info, thanks.
Has GOA taken a stance on this?
I checked and it seems like they’re all a bunch of slow boomers with infrequent news updates: https://gunowners.org/
But considering their news headlines are fairly topical to what has happened in recent weeks, I would expect them to chime in eventually when they get their email chain mail for recent events.
Interesting. I'd be curious to know what that spread is like in terms of bills passed/overturned.
This is my take as well. I stopped being associated with them.
Check out Delta Defense
I will check this out.
The thing is that the NRA acts a lightning rod for lefty companies that hate gun rights, while the GOA and 2AF gets real work done.
I don’t like them but they’re incredibly useful for us just in that regard.
There is a lot in play. Questions over whether or not he was "legally" able to carry, crossed state lines after the shooting, etc.
All that aside, I don't think that the NRA will get involved either way (either).
Some people's parents raise them so they aren't still a child at age 25. 17 year olds go to fucking wars.
Most people nowadays. Not all
Most 40 year olds don't act like adults. What's your point?
And jail if parents don’t stop them from doing stupid shit
Agreed.
Stop paying membership fees until they act like they give a shit about the second amendment and a person's right to stand their ground.
NRA recently got the 10 round magazine limit in California lifted.
Let’s save the hatred for the left, not for allies that aren’t quite as based as we are but are still on our side.
No, they did not. They filed one Amicus brief to the court. And at least helped logistically.
http://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/ - the law firm that handled the case for the good guys. Main Plaintff backer: https://crpa.org/news/alert/duncan-v-becerra-update-from-crpa-president-chuck-michel/
I have seen no evidence they major league unded the plaintiffs and were not one of the organizations central to the litigation. If there is, the NRA should clearly state same.
CRPA is the state association of the NRA.
The NRA and its California affiliate have been behind this case from the very start. Who do you think bankrolled this lawsuit.
Here is an announcement from when they first filed the suit in 2017:
https://www.guns.com/news/2017/05/19/nra-hits-back-in-court-over-california-magazine-ban
They are not perfect, but this is the NRA defending 2A rights.
The NRA are dickless wannabes who are too willing to compromise.
A lot of people hate the NRA because it's "extreme".
I hate the NRA because it's not extreme enough.
I just want to live in the America I was promised where you can order surplus M16's off Amazon directly to your front door with no background check, just like George Washington and the rest of the founders intended.
With some claymore mines and a Stinger missile.
The 2A was written so that ordinary citizens would have access to the same weaponry being used by the people they might have to defend themselves against.
All gun laws are unconstitutional.
As far as I’m concerned, NRA is just another group of Do Nothings, a club of people who say things but have no intention or conviction.
NRA-ILY is just a branch of the NRA.
Except when they get California’s 10 round magazine rule lifted, though, right?
Why do we go after our allies so hard? Save that hatred for the left.
Hello, Mr. LaPierre.
GOA > NRA
The nra is a fraud group. They prey on people with good morals and stand for the second amendment. Don’t give them a cent.
NRA sucks. I remember many yeas ago when the government wanted the names of all donors to non-profits via the DISCLOSE Act, and they got that authority. The NRA made a deal with the swamp, exempting them, that fucked over smaller organizations, such as Campaign For Liberty.
https://www.sigarms556.com/threads/nra-siding-with-liberals.9425/
http://www.campaignforliberty.org/irs-attacks
http://www.campaignforliberty.org/afternoon-disclose-act-vote-updated
My local members only range told all members last evening to stop all donations to the NRA. No suggestions for replacement groups beyond the GOA and local private ranges were suggested. In my opinion the NRA is for fuds and the ignorant.
No Reaction Again
This is why I no longer support them. All these riots for months and all I hear are crickets.
The NRA is one organization that is sure to do absolutely nothing. Kyle would get more help from the local Brady Campaign than he would from the NRA.
NRA is controlled opposition. They didn't do anything the last few times. Why would they this time.
Don't give the NRA a dime, they don't do shit. If you give them your money you are literally paying them to hand your rights over to the Democrats.
Castrated.
Here's hoping that they are dissolved and replaced by a legitimate pro gun organization.
GOA or JPFO depending on how you roll.
NRA better turn into the ACLU to go defend that KID or they're done. No more money for 2A Nigerian scammers.
the NRA won't take that risk - in case things go against the 17 year old
they wouldn't want NRA to be associated to all the negative press that will come down
I think waiting for something official is the better policy, so I'm sort of with the NRA on this one.
Rushing to call him a murder or a hero seems like a bad idea, to me anyway.
People screaming how he killed in cold blood are full of shit.
The videos really look like self defense to me - but there may be more that hasn't come out.
I wish that GOA would get into the gun safety courses and insurance for ranges that NRA does.
I quit the NRA years ago. Just a bunch of cucked faggots.When NY ban the AR "style" black scary guns right in the NRA's back yard and didn't do a fucking thing I was done. They used to be great but now they're run by hacks with an open for business sign hanging outside so politicians know they're open to be paid off.
I'm so glad I decided not to buy that lifetime membership. USCCA FTW!!!
NRA is not a monopoly. Support better alternatives.
We are on our own for now in these particular areas boys.
Wayne ain't gonna.
Not a chance in hell.
just here to make the 87th comment on Wayne not wanting to get one of his bespoke suits dirty
Kyle literally broke at least one gun law. The NRA has never advocated that gun owners break gun laws, quite the reverse. The NRA has always emphasized training and responsibility.
The NRA pushed Bump Stock Bans, red flag laws, NFA, etc.
The NRA is a joke. I'm sad that i'm a lifer. GOA and local groups get my money now.
Everyone does.
Hate to say it, but a lot of organizations we’ve supported only really care about their bottom dollar.
Fuck the NRA. They're only after your money. I've actually stopped shopping at Midway USA because they're propping those assholes up and e-begging on their behalf.
The NRA stopped giving a fuck about gun rights about 10 years ago. They can fuck off and die.
NRA is useless.
Good Point!
There is GOA and CRPA to support our Rights!
We are watching NRA!!!
I hope the GOA steps up.
They won’t. But the shills won’t all the out
I'm sure they posted to Twitter or something.... maybe they'll work with Senator Graham to write a sternly worded letter.
They're never getting my money.
Fuck the NRA.