They may have had the correct date of birth for him but the age calculation got fed a 0 instead of the actual date due to a programmer error. These things happen.
The best I could find was some felony charges from 2013 but I could not find convictions.
I did find other Wisconsin court records for minor stuff like traffic tickets and eviction and failure to obey an officer. He did not show up in court for any of those things.
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The third who was shot (& survived) is Gaige Grosskreutz, 26. He's a member of the People’s Revolution Movement. He was filmed chasing after the teen w/a pistol. He was shot at close-range in the upper arm. He has a criminal record that includes being intoxicated & armed w/a gun
Even if he is not a felon he still has a history of gun crime. It is a crime to be intoxicated while possessing a firearm. Just like driving intoxicated is a crime.
Now we got this guy who claims to be a major dude in the Wisconsin BLM movement chasing people with his pistol, during a riot, after curfew, and from the looks of the photo he was a half second from killing Kyle.
The point is the "fake medic" won't face any charges because he was doing what the Dems wanted. Kyle on the other hand has to sit in jail because he refused to be murdered.
So while I get the distinction and respect your OCD on the issue I honestly could care less because the "rule of law" only seems to apply to some people and not others. Ask the Mccloskeys
Looks like a placeholder birth date (Dec 31, 1969), as it's the Unix epoch (starting 00:00 Jan 1, 1970 Greenwich Mean Time, or Dec 31 1969 for those in timezones west of London). It's the birthday equivalent of John Doe.
The hospital will "bill" him for, oh, I'll guess around 150,000 dollars, depending on just how many surgeries he has. That guess is for 2-3 surgeries, and goes up from there.
The actual cost of his treatment will be around 20,000 dollars.
The difference in cost will be the hospital trying to recoup all the money it loses on other people who also don't pay.
But what this means is that when someone WITH money and insurance comes in, the hospital will try to squeeze THEM out of 5-6x the actual cost of treatment to recoup the losses elsewhere.
It's another situation that does need actual reform and attention. GEOTUS has started it with transparency, but the Left is so far off message and so far out of reality it doesn't matter and nothing productive happens.
Just had a kid and this was exactly the case. It is completely out of control.
Try to do the right thing? FUCK YOU in every aspect of your life.
I'm tired of it.
The insurance I work for uses a % of medicare allowable to reprice medical service lines... you would be shocked at what bullshit hospitals do.
I think 150% of medicare allowable for a CT scan is something around $700 depending on the state.
Hospitals routinely charge non medicare patients between $7000 and $16000 for a CT. Insurance negotiates that down by pressuring the hospitals legally (when there isn't a contracted rate, and there usually isn't if we're not talking about the BIG BIG household name insurance companies).
But that's retarded billing rate, and I see it all day every day.
Hospitals, in my experience, are the bad guys. Yes, there are big insurance companies that get contractual price breaks, but even then hospitals will try to bill patients for extra and hope they don't fight it.
I don't begrudge hospitals trying to cover expenses they can't recoup from illegals and criminals. I'd blame the government for forcing the hospitals to treat those wastes of humanity and losing millions in the process
Patching up the wound is one thing. Whether that arm will be of any use is a completely different story.
Also, there are cases where the limb is damaged, useless and keeps the person in constant pain and they just tell the doctors later on - fuck it, cut it off.
Yeah, he's never lifting that arm again. This is just enough to stop it from bleeding out. The muscle is gone. There's nothing there to reconnect. That arm is in a sling for life. He will still be able to use his hand, but lifting his forearm is impossible.
what you're actually seeing there, most of the wound is filled in with a what's called a wound VAC that's filling up the area that's going to have to heal over a long,long time.
The black stuff is foam. It is packed into the wound to create a pathway for all the stuff the vacuum pump (where vac in wound vac comes from) sucks up from living tissue to flow through on its way to that tube coming out his elbow.
On top of the foam, and spanning on to his skin is a clear plastic film (strong stuff with a strong glue on it) that creates an airtight seal across the wound.
Then the tube is attached to a break in the clear plastic. When the vacuum is started the previously springy foam condenses down as air pressure outside the seal pushes it all into place.
On the far end of the tube (not pictured) is a vacuum, which houses a pump, sensors, batteries (when portable) and a chamber to catch all the crap that it sucks out of the wound.
The gentle suction of the vac both cleans the wound site out and encourages blood flow to the area to aid healing.
(Source - My wife lived with one of these for about 7 months)
On one hand, yes, but from a purely moral perspective I think he's been punished enough. Same with Blake, even if he's guilty of everything mentioned I do believe he's been punished more than enough at this point.
I think attempted murder is a stretch, unfortunately, as there would be too much reasonable doubt about 'intent to kill'. Had he fired his illegally-held handgun, it would have been a clear attempt. He's still on the hook for a grab bag of charges, though:
Possession of firearm by felon (felony G)
Unlawful assembly (misdemeanor A)
Disorderly conduct/endangering safety w/ a deadly weapon (brandishing- misdemeanor A)
I'm holding out faint hope for a felony murder charge, though- the group that is now missing 2.1 members seemed to be organised with the purpose of committing felonies (in particular, arson, aggravated battery and burglary), and so Lefty is on the hook for the the pederast's leaking skull and the soyboy's exploded heart.
Good point- that's also a useful holding charge as it's strict liability. Keep an eye on the wee bastard while you find out who is hiding that gun for him, how he was connected to the dead vermin, who organised/funded their little group
Absolutely. Might take a little time, but when the DA gets the full scope of the scrutiny brought down on them with their insane 1st degree murder charge, a lot of legal minds are going to start laying on pressure. Hell, I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't weigh in directly.
He's going to be stopping, at the all you can eat prison BBC buffet.
And when he says "But I was at a BLM riot and I hate white people too!" the black prison gangs will just F' him in the A' harder. Prisons are all racially segregated and organized, and I doubt the guys with swastika face tattoos would be interested in protecting him.
Kid I went to high school with wanted to be black so bad. Hung with the black kids, talked like an idiot, big in to hip hop fashion, etc. At 19 he got busted with a bunch of pills and a stolen gun, did 2-3 years in prison. After getting out of jail he was easily the most racist person I had ever met.
"gobble more cock"? Leftists always accuse the other guy of what they're guilty of. Keep sucking BLM dicks and getting assfucked by tranny furries, degenerate cunt
Felon who was in possession of a handgun walks free.
I haven't seen any hard source on this one being a felon. Any actual sources on that?
Yeah
kek
Ramen King
Dude trust me
Well he was also concealed carrying it. Doubt he had a license.
Felons don't get concealed carry permits.
Right, I mean even if he wasn't a felon.
https://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/gaige_p_grosskreutz_id_6236626.html
https://wearethene.ws/notable/133697
That says he was 43 in 2013.
I don't think this is accurate.
Lists his year of birth as 1993
It also says 1969, it's probably a scraper that's all fucked up.
If the database has a default value for a date/timestamp field and it gets a 0 then it will use the UNIX birthday - 1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z
First link inaccurate. 43 at time of arrest 7 years ago? No chance
When you leave a date field empty in programming, it evaluates to Jan 1, 1970. Which if used to calculate his age, would make him 43 in 2013.
So his DOB was left out of that page. That's all that means.
Like SQL... I better get back to work but I can't put .win down!
This pede unix ticks
The year is shown as 1993
They may have had the correct date of birth for him but the age calculation got fed a 0 instead of the actual date due to a programmer error. These things happen.
If the database has a default value for a date/timestamp field and it gets a 0 then it will use the UNIX birthday - 1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z
https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2020/08/gaige-paul-grosskreutz-kenosha-shooting-victim-shot-activist/
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1298757029499031554
Lists his year of birth as 1993
It has two different DOB.
The best I could find was some felony charges from 2013 but I could not find convictions.
I did find other Wisconsin court records for minor stuff like traffic tickets and eviction and failure to obey an officer. He did not show up in court for any of those things.
Thanks, I couldn't find any convictions either.
Try Andy Ngo's twitter. All three people shot by Kyle were felons.
Does NOT say he is a felon.
Andy Ngô @MrAndyNgo · 12h The third who was shot (& survived) is Gaige Grosskreutz, 26. He's a member of the People’s Revolution Movement. He was filmed chasing after the teen w/a pistol. He was shot at close-range in the upper arm. He has a criminal record that includes being intoxicated & armed w/a gun
Ok so he's just known to be armed while intoxicated....real saint.
I didn't stick up for him, I made a distinction. Don't get all butt hurt about it.
Do I sound butt hurt fren?
Even if he is not a felon he still has a history of gun crime. It is a crime to be intoxicated while possessing a firearm. Just like driving intoxicated is a crime.
Now we got this guy who claims to be a major dude in the Wisconsin BLM movement chasing people with his pistol, during a riot, after curfew, and from the looks of the photo he was a half second from killing Kyle.
The point is the "fake medic" won't face any charges because he was doing what the Dems wanted. Kyle on the other hand has to sit in jail because he refused to be murdered.
So while I get the distinction and respect your OCD on the issue I honestly could care less because the "rule of law" only seems to apply to some people and not others. Ask the Mccloskeys
Yes
I've been arrested for felonies before and I'm not a felon, am I still a felon to you?
Not a felon
Prove it.
https://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/gaige_p_grosskreutz_id_6236626.html
Says 43yo? Not a chance
Looks like a placeholder birth date (Dec 31, 1969), as it's the Unix epoch (starting 00:00 Jan 1, 1970 Greenwich Mean Time, or Dec 31 1969 for those in timezones west of London). It's the birthday equivalent of John Doe.
Correct. Scroll down more it reads that he was born in 1993.
Does nobody fucking read the whole article anymore?
Are you stupid? his mugshot and his hospital photo look identical with the same name from the same state.
Another unpaid hospital bill
And more complex than that.
The hospital will "bill" him for, oh, I'll guess around 150,000 dollars, depending on just how many surgeries he has. That guess is for 2-3 surgeries, and goes up from there.
The actual cost of his treatment will be around 20,000 dollars.
The difference in cost will be the hospital trying to recoup all the money it loses on other people who also don't pay.
But what this means is that when someone WITH money and insurance comes in, the hospital will try to squeeze THEM out of 5-6x the actual cost of treatment to recoup the losses elsewhere.
It's another situation that does need actual reform and attention. GEOTUS has started it with transparency, but the Left is so far off message and so far out of reality it doesn't matter and nothing productive happens.
We should not be paying for someone else's hospital visits. I only want to pay for MY visits, which are thankfully zero.
I agree with you. I just work in Insurance, so I know a little bit more than the average layman.
But then who would pay for all the hospital deliveries of anchor babies of foreign-national welfare migrants?
Next time you go to the hospital just give them a fake name and social. You don't have to give them information. It's how illegals get free care
It's ok. Some lefties will pay for it and buy him a house etc etc
Just had a kid and this was exactly the case. It is completely out of control. Try to do the right thing? FUCK YOU in every aspect of your life. I'm tired of it.
The insurance I work for uses a % of medicare allowable to reprice medical service lines... you would be shocked at what bullshit hospitals do.
I think 150% of medicare allowable for a CT scan is something around $700 depending on the state.
Hospitals routinely charge non medicare patients between $7000 and $16000 for a CT. Insurance negotiates that down by pressuring the hospitals legally (when there isn't a contracted rate, and there usually isn't if we're not talking about the BIG BIG household name insurance companies).
But that's retarded billing rate, and I see it all day every day.
Hospitals, in my experience, are the bad guys. Yes, there are big insurance companies that get contractual price breaks, but even then hospitals will try to bill patients for extra and hope they don't fight it.
I don't begrudge hospitals trying to cover expenses they can't recoup from illegals and criminals. I'd blame the government for forcing the hospitals to treat those wastes of humanity and losing millions in the process
True. Again, a system with flaws. Same with police overreach.
But I'm not going to advocate for "burning the system down" over it. The Left has gone far far far far far too far in both of these issues.
Those are some damn good doctors. I thought that arm was gone, for sure.
On account of all the jogging related incidents.
Lots of practice
They train in Democrat controlled cities, sooooo...
Patching up the wound is one thing. Whether that arm will be of any use is a completely different story.
Also, there are cases where the limb is damaged, useless and keeps the person in constant pain and they just tell the doctors later on - fuck it, cut it off.
Good bet that arm's brick throwing days are behind it.
But he can probably still throw a football better than Colin Kaepernick.
kek
and a baseball better than Fauci...
Kek!
Yeah, the arm will likely be useless. I'll be surprised if it gets enough blood flow.
Modern medicine can do wonders with stem cell treatments to regenerate tissue, but it'll probably cost him his other arm, and a leg, lol.
You're a rascal-that's what you are!
That makes me feel a little better
Yeah, he's never lifting that arm again. This is just enough to stop it from bleeding out. The muscle is gone. There's nothing there to reconnect. That arm is in a sling for life. He will still be able to use his hand, but lifting his forearm is impossible.
what you're actually seeing there, most of the wound is filled in with a what's called a wound VAC that's filling up the area that's going to have to heal over a long,long time.
For folks wondering
The black stuff is foam. It is packed into the wound to create a pathway for all the stuff the vacuum pump (where vac in wound vac comes from) sucks up from living tissue to flow through on its way to that tube coming out his elbow.
On top of the foam, and spanning on to his skin is a clear plastic film (strong stuff with a strong glue on it) that creates an airtight seal across the wound.
Then the tube is attached to a break in the clear plastic. When the vacuum is started the previously springy foam condenses down as air pressure outside the seal pushes it all into place.
On the far end of the tube (not pictured) is a vacuum, which houses a pump, sensors, batteries (when portable) and a chamber to catch all the crap that it sucks out of the wound.
The gentle suction of the vac both cleans the wound site out and encourages blood flow to the area to aid healing.
(Source - My wife lived with one of these for about 7 months)
NEAT
Wow! Thanks for the explanation. Hope your wife is doing well. Also hope this pedo commie suffers.
I was wondering if they were gonna use duck tape. Looks like they did.
That’s a wound vac set up. Sucks up wound exudate to allow tissue to heal and regrow. He should be in jail though. Wound vacs work there too.
If you can’t duck it, duck tape it.
He didn’t duck.
That’s why he got shot...
cuck tape
Hopefully it goes gangrene
Well hes a dirty commie so probably
He should be charged for being a felon in possession of a firearm and/or felon carrying concealed at the very least.
On one hand, yes, but from a purely moral perspective I think he's been punished enough. Same with Blake, even if he's guilty of everything mentioned I do believe he's been punished more than enough at this point.
I think attempted murder is a stretch, unfortunately, as there would be too much reasonable doubt about 'intent to kill'. Had he fired his illegally-held handgun, it would have been a clear attempt. He's still on the hook for a grab bag of charges, though:
I'm holding out faint hope for a felony murder charge, though- the group that is now missing 2.1 members seemed to be organised with the purpose of committing felonies (in particular, arson, aggravated battery and burglary), and so Lefty is on the hook for the the pederast's leaking skull and the soyboy's exploded heart.
Yeah, it's hard to say if that's the correct charge, but assault with a deadly weapon seems appropriate.
You forgot curfew violation. The sheriff was big on that one in his little bullshit news conference.
Good point- that's also a useful holding charge as it's strict liability. Keep an eye on the wee bastard while you find out who is hiding that gun for him, how he was connected to the dead vermin, who organised/funded their little group
Honestly... Kyle was charged with bullshit charges that won't stand in court. It only seems fair that this guy would too.
I've been trying to stay positive but the inequal justice is truly fucking me up.
He is one of protected class.
Pop went the weasel
Lol...but he was stopped...lmfao
I would love to see him back out there charging people with guns. Keep reaching for the stars, Gayge.
What do you mean? He is still being a degenerate
Hope he enjoys his Attempted Murder charges
He literally got stopped by having his arm exploded. And will likely be facing several criminal charges.
Also he is a meme for life and will have his ass beat whenever recognized by conservatives.
Then why is he not handcuffed to his bed right now?
Because he hasn't been charged yet and the police are obviously incompetent.
Lol u think he will face charges? Lolololololol
If he really has a felony conviction in his past then he could face federal charges for being a felon in possession of a firearm.
Local dem DA has no say in that.
Absolutely. Might take a little time, but when the DA gets the full scope of the scrutiny brought down on them with their insane 1st degree murder charge, a lot of legal minds are going to start laying on pressure. Hell, I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't weigh in directly.
And will be a lefty rub one out the rest of his life.
When does the "stranger" stop being a stranger? Asking for an enemy.
Can't stop him?
He's going to be stopping, at the all you can eat prison BBC buffet.
And when he says "But I was at a BLM riot and I hate white people too!" the black prison gangs will just F' him in the A' harder. Prisons are all racially segregated and organized, and I doubt the guys with swastika face tattoos would be interested in protecting him.
Kid I went to high school with wanted to be black so bad. Hung with the black kids, talked like an idiot, big in to hip hop fashion, etc. At 19 he got busted with a bunch of pills and a stolen gun, did 2-3 years in prison. After getting out of jail he was easily the most racist person I had ever met.
His nickname in jail will be "tripod"
Is bud Jacob a felon too?
Knowing how the leftists flock together (and most of them seem to be felons), most likely.
His buddy wearing a Milwaukee t-shirt, so proudly wearing clothes bearing the names of cities you are willing to burn down.
and why wasn't he arrested? Felon's aren't allowed to possess a firearm.
Imagine working at the hospital and listening to these cucks recount their story portraying it as fighting literal nazis. Barf
If you remember the tiktok nurses there is every chance they will love listening to it...
They’ll update their FB profiles to say “war doctor”.
Guess what? I guarantee our tax dollars paid for his surgery. He looks like the type to freeload.
He'll be a millionaire from the gofundme. Probably OD once he has all the cash though or he'll get shot and robbed by somebody who matters.
wants??? OR once??? Holy shit dude
The scofflaw need to get on his knees and thank God he woke up this morning.
Wouldn't it be something if Hero Kyle came in through the window, with a long rifle, and finished what he started.
And his date will hopefully reply with, "Oh, you're a commie? Dissapointing." And then she will turn him into a good commie.
tattoo removal
These two were evicted together in 2015.
Check Wisconsin court records.
Socialism is the myth that two people can survive together without either of them doing anything of value.
Goddamn! They manage to patch him back up? I was sure the damage is so severe that amputation is the only option. Those doctors are miracle workers!
No charge for illegal possession and concealed carry of a firearm by a felon? Or attempted murder?
That faggot should be in prison for attempted murder.
He's fucking gimped for good.
Anarchotyranny
Wait wait... u/BasedMedicalDoctor how is this not waaaay more fucked? It looks like they taped it together and, voila
So, what you’re saying is: FAFO.
10-4
This is complete bullshit. The video evidence showed he was the attacker. He should have charges.
Can the mods sticky this?
"gobble more cock"? Leftists always accuse the other guy of what they're guilty of. Keep sucking BLM dicks and getting assfucked by tranny furries, degenerate cunt
You seem to hate conservatives. So that puts you into the retard left category.
Since when did you guys start insulting people for being gay? What is wrong when gay people love to gobble cock?
I hope his arm rots off
He should he in custody!
The left are already labeling the skateboard attacker that was killed as the hero martyr.
Here's an archive link for the gofundme they've setup, it's currently at $78,000. https://archive.vn/Jb0YV
Shame kyle didn't double tap
That wound will need a skin graft later. He is in for a long recovery and lots of scar tissue. Sucks that we will have to pay for it all.
Well ya boi talks like a fag and his shit is retarded.
My last wife was a tard, shes a pilot now.
What a waste of a wound VAC
When is the wedding?
He has a souvenir he'll never lose. What a faggot.
It’s funny bc he used the arm emoji
This guy lived at 2100 w Pierce in Milwaukee, last known. but he has 4 cell phones, seems fishy to me. But maybe he's got a "family plan".
More like Gaige Grossarm
It's really unfortunate that bullet didn't hit Center mass
I hope the arm falls off. Fucking commie scum.
Which other criminal picked up his illegal firearm? Will it be used in a further crime?
Just a pussy bragging that he fucked up... bravo 👏
Dang hes gonna keep his arm? That’s disappointing...
at least he'll be immortalized as a little bitch screeching over his missing bicep. feel free to fuck around again, my friend!
Oh he got Stopped LOL Lucky wasnt a Double Tap ... Fuckin Commie Zombies
Damn I’m sad his arm wasn’t amputated.